

Josh Friedman, the creator and show runner of Fox's Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, wants you to watch his show. But don't expect him to tell you anything about it, not even about the big, massive cliffhanger coming at the end of the current second season.
The show moves to Friday nights at 8 p.m. on Feb. 13 as a lead-in for the new series Dollhouse. The last new episode ended with Sarah (Lena Headey) collapsing with the image of an HK entering her white light. Teasers for the upcoming episodes also show the return of Kyle Reese (Jonathan Jackson).
Friedman took part in a conference call this week to promote the back nine episodes of Terminator's second season. The following Q&A features edited excerpts of that interview.
It looks like we've seen Kyle Reese in the teasers for the rest of the season. How will he reappear?
Friedman: Let's all just wait and see what that one looks like. This is a whole larger thing. I wish no one could see anything. I wish everyone would just show up. I wish that 10 million people showed up every week and watched the show regardless of what was advertised during the week. That's just not reality. The reality also is our show is a bit ratings-challenged, or has been, and people want to do things to cut through the noise. I appreciate that, but what that usually translates to for marketing people is spoilers. It's hard to just tease things and not show anything. That's a long way of saying it's good that people know that Kyle Reese is in the episode, but I wish people were surprised that Kyle Reese is in the episode.
Will the season finale be closed-ended just in case you don't get a pickup, or are you operating on the assumption there will be a third season?
Friedman: Well, I'm always optimistic. I wrote the finale the way that I was planning on writing the finale for a long time. I think there were things that we've been building to all season, and you owe the audience that's been watching the show kind of a logical conclusion to the things that you've been building towards. Everyone says, "Well, fans get really upset if a show gets canceled and things are left hanging." But fans get upset if a show gets canceled. I think fans also get upset when you write a crappy finale. So I think that you have to try to write the best finale you can, providing closure to the stories that you're telling, but if I tried to kind of sum up every single thing in 43 minutes, it would be a disaster. I think you'd end up with like a clip show. Hopefully it's going to be something that feels satisfying for people who've watched all year and also certainly lets you know where we would be going in a third season.
Do you start the first episode back with any kind of catch-up, besides the usual recap clips?
Friedman: No. Maybe this phone call. The episode picks up pretty quickly after the things that happened in the end of episode 13. I seem to do that all the time. I did that after last season, when we had a shortened season, "Samson and Delilah" picked up, basically, 30 seconds afterwards. I kind of like doing that. I think it frustrates some of the powers that be sometimes, because I'm not much for resetting scenes or reminding people of things. I kind of feel like the people who watch the show know where we are. I also think it's pretty clear what's going on at that point.

What do you see are the advantages and disadvantages of your new Friday-night timeslot?
Friedman: Well, the advantage I see is that we were getting our asses kicked on Monday night. So I'm happy to move to Fridays. It was crowded on Mondays, and I think Friday gives Fox an opportunity to promote us together with Dollhouse, which seems like a pretty exciting show. I think that it's an opportunity for a fresh start, and we have a lot of great episodes in the back nine. I don't think anyone really knows what to expect in this environment, so I feel good about it.
Does Fox have different expectations for your show's performance?
Friedman: You know, I haven't really talked to them about numbers or anything. I think Fox has been very open to seeing what happens. I think they're excited by the possibility, but I haven't really talked to them about it. I think just generally statistically, Friday night has obviously been a lower ratings night, which is good and bad. I think it's good in that you have a different set of expectations, but I don't know exactly what they are. ...
Do you have any plans to explore the man from 1963 who built the time machine they used in the pilot?
Friedman: The Engineer! The Engineer. I love the Engineer character, I will tell you. We talk about the Engineer in the writers' room all the time. We have arguments about the Engineer. There are a lot of people in the writers' room who constantly pitch Engineer stories, and there are people in the writers' room who say, "I never want to see that guy in this series." I am determined to at some point have the Engineer on the show. I cannot guarantee—in fact, I'll tell you it probably will not happen in these last nine episodes, but I'm totally fixated on that guy. I have multiple thoughts about what's going on with that guy. So I hope so.
One of the standout episodes this year was "Goodbye to All That," where Sarah basically mothered the young Martin Bedell. How important was that to her character this year?
Friedman: One of the things that we tried to do this season with Sarah is to put her in sort of time-travel situations without traveling her through time. Put her in situations where she's sort of faced with alternate versions of her own life, like what could have been. I think the Kacy character is sort of that. She's a single mother who's pregnant, who's got her own concerns. That could've been Sarah, but it's not Sarah. Or she's taking care of a child that's not her child but could've been her child in a different world. I think different mother figures, different child figures; that's been something I've kind of wanted to weave through the first half of the season. I kept calling it time travel without time travel. They're like alternate versions of her life. It gives Sarah kind of an opportunity to contrast what her situation is with what could've been or what never could be. I find that sort of poignant.
By Muldfeld at 6:56 AM ON 02/05/09
Jeez, guys. What's an "HK"? I hate it when people use acronyms.
I really enjoy this show. Writer Toni Graphia got me to watch it because she was the only BSG writer with amazing episodes, but I really enjoy the show, especially the softer dramatic moments with Cameron; the stuff with the religious black guy and Sarah seem a bit forced, though. I love the humor.
I really hope this comes back for Season 3.
PS You guys really need to clarify your encryption; I had to reload because my first 2 attempts failed because they were so hard to read.
By aberzombie at 7:53 AM ON 02/05/09
"HK" stands for Hunter Killer, if memory serves me correctly. That was their designation in the original Terminator movie.
By aberzombie at 7:54 AM ON 02/05/09
"HK" stands for Hunter Killer, if memory serves me correctly. That was their designation in the original Terminator movie.
By chawoott at 9:39 AM ON 02/05/09
This is a good article and I can't wait to see these episodes.
What caused my comment is the asinine phrase "as a lead-in for the new series." That recent buzz-phrase is another "beyond stupid" thought by someone in an office somewhere who doesn't watch series TV.
You are correct in stating that Mondays are crowded. "House" has recently caused us to turn away from it because it has become a soap rather than a procedural, so that slot is now open.
On Fridays "Flashpoint" and "Numb3rs" are the only two shows that would give any other network competition. (Monk, & Psych are no great loss.)
Fox has absolutely nothing on Tuesday and Wednesday nights and the 9:00p.m slot on Thursdays is open. Friday and Saturday nights used to be THE NIGHTs for action-dramas. Both of my VCRs still have an hour open....
But, stop with the foolish statement "as a lead-in for the new series." Just because I watch one show doesn't mean I watch the one that follows. And any show that follows a sporting event NEVER gets watched. The original CSI is no longer watched because they've extended the show one full minute past the hour. And I like Lawrence Fishburne! "The 4400" used to do that, so I missed the last full season.
In case you wonder why I don't mention the SciFi channel: ComCast put in on HDTV about 3 years ago. That was the last time I saw that channel. I refuse to pay their ransom. SciFi Rewind is sufficient.
Just my 2cents....
{charley}
By Kevin J at 11:36 AM ON 02/05/09
"Fox has absolutely nothing on Tuesday and Wednesday nights..." Sorry, but Fox is very committed to American Idol which it showcases on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. I never watch it, I think it is devoid of anything worthwhile, but apparently someone in this country does and it earns Fox money.
Support the shows you watch, anyway you can.
By squirrel at 5:54 PM ON 02/05/09
HK stands for hunter killer. It's a type of machine that flys around the field taking out any human survivors on site. That machine Kate shot down when she was with John in T3 was an early model of it. It's name exactely describes its use it hunts its target and kills it with no questions asked.
I completely disagree with the direction Friedman is heading with the show. So many pointless episodes so far and probably more to come. Not every episode was bad. I just hope they don't end it like that show My Own Worst Enemy was. I really liked that show but they cancelled it with possibly the worst ending ever.... a massive cliffhanger that will never be explored.
Adult Kyle Reese coming onto the show just doesn't make any sense. I'm open for possible changes that may fix this show, but I got a feeling Kyle will complicate the plot more than it will fix it, but maybe it won't. I'm interested in seeing the episode to see what they do with Kyle, but if they give that excuse of "changing the past changed the future" it's going to get dull fast.
Besides how the heck can Kyle time travel to 1984 conceive John miraculously survive and time-travel in a period where time-traveling doesn't even exist to say hello to Sarah. And if they do use that excuse of changing the past changed the future, still how the heck did he go from 2029 to 1984 and then to present day....
Biggest plot-hole if he did survive how did he leave 1984.... Maybe it's just Sarah hallucinating who knows.
By shadesofgrey at 6:17 PM ON 02/05/09
Yes fans will get upset if they are left hanging or get a crappy finale. But they will be less upset if they get a decent finale that should the series get canceled will encourage them to buy the DVDs!
By squirrel at 8:10 PM ON 02/05/09
I won't get upset as long as I don't have to wait a year to see what happens. When the writers strike happened and the show was put on hold I completely forgot the show existed after a few months. Lucky me one day I just happened to wonder "Hmmm what was it that I usually do on Monday nights.... Oh I watched the TV shows." Got online checked the shows return time and got a time and date. And thought to myself jeez this long wait better not happen again. Season 3 will most likely air in fall 2009 which is far too long to wait, but what can you do....
A proper closure to season 2 would at least be satisfying and make the wait less aggravating.
By kerrith at 8:57 PM ON 02/05/09
An adult Kyle Reese in SCC goes beyond stupid and becomes insulting and exploitative of the franchise and Michael Biehn's character. I have stuck with this show for two seasons of increasingly annoying subplots, a time travel super highway and continuity blunders but this is too much.
I will watch the episode but if there isn't a spectacularly good reason for incorporating Kyle Reese into the show with a plausible explanation I am out. So, I am about 95% sure that will be my last episode.
By Anthony at 10:05 PM ON 02/06/09
Don't let the door hit you in the ass m8 , seriously. Its an alternate time line to the movies so don't worry as it will not ruin your childhood.
By IsoTek at 1:10 AM ON 02/08/09
To the few that are complaining about Kyle Reese....I hear ya, but lets be real. Is this really a good reason for bailing on a show that still has alot of potential in its other characters? Personally I don't think so, but that is just me. I cannot force you to give the show a break if KR's appearance disturbs you that much. I just hope you will see how the show needs viewers, ones that will not bail on it over a what could be a small thing in light of getting a bigger better series overall.
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