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Battlestar Galactica's Mary McDonnell saw hope in series' end

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Battlestar Galactica star Mary McDonnell, who played Laura Roslin, told SCI FI Wire that she found her character's fate in the series finale on Friday to be "very eloquent, very hopeful and very necessary." (Big spoilers ahead if you haven't seen the finale!)

Roslin finally succumbed to her disease in the finale, "Daybreak, Part 2," in a quiet and touching scene with Adama (Edward James Olmos). McDonnell said that she was particularly appreciative of the the flashbacks that depicted a healthy [though smoking] Roslin experiencing the events that prompted her to board the Galactica.

SCI FI Wire spoke to McDonnell last week, after an advance screening of the finale in New York. Following are edited excerpts from that exclusive conversation.

How satisfied were you with the way in which the series ended and also the way in which Roslin's storyline was concluded?

McDonnell: I was very pleased with how the series ended, primarily because I thought that it'd be impossible to explore the territory that this show did and find a way to synthesize the ideas towards something hopeful. If you would have told me a year and a half ago that this was where we were headed, and it would end up this way, with hope, I would have thought, "There's just no way." And I remember the fans were saying, "This is getting darker and darker. How do they recover?" So I felt it was very eloquent, very hopeful and very necessary. I think the ideas were right on.

The flashbacks to a healthy, vital Roslin provided a great contrast to the woman who was drugged up just to survive the final battle. For you as an actress, what did it mean to have that point/counterpoint to play?

McDonnell: I think that's one of the nicest things a writer has ever done for an actress. To be perfectly honest with you, I read that and I called [executive producer] Ron [Moore] and said, "That's so loving, that you did that," because otherwise it was just hard to look at her. It's hard to watch someone deteriorate, and showing us how she lived out her destiny made it even more powerful. One phone call, one romp in the bedroom, realizing that life is more than that, she went on board, and that led her to one of the most beautiful moments in her life, ... which was her death. Oh, my God! That was amazing, right?

How hard was it to play that death scene?

McDonnell: It was very hard. We would do a take, and my hand would fall, and Eddie [James Olmos] would pick up my hand. Laura was dead by this point, so as an actress I had to not have anything happening whatsoever. But then Eddie's teardrops would fall onto my wrist and that would make me cry. And so Laura would come back to life, and we'd have to say, "Cut!"

How about sitting in a room with an audience and watching that scene? How difficult was that?

McDonnell: I'd seen a lot of it, so that I was prepared, so that I wasn't seeing all of it for the first time there. But I'd also left some of it a mystery. Actually, I found it wonderful. Laura saw some of the stuff that she had to face up to.

The general perception is that Battlestar Galactica was more than just entertainment. What does that mean to you, personally?

McDonnell: I feel incredibly lucky. I feel very proud of the product, but I feel proud to have been inside an experience that connected us so directly and profoundly with issues that are important to everyone. The kind of people that I've met playing this part and the kind of situations I've been in, like the U.N., I never could have dreamed would come from a role that I was playing on television. It just doesn't compute. So most of what I feel about Battlestar is deep and profound gratitude, because I think the whole experience taught the characters and taught the people working on it mindfulness. And so, when the U.N. visit emerged, I thought, "Well, there you are. These are people trying to be extraordinarily mindful, trying to change the course of human history." These committees—the human rights committee, the committee on terrorism, the committee on children—they're people who are truly trying to change the course of human history. And we get to sit with them and think about this stuff. So we just feel deeply privileged.

How hard will this role be to top?

McDonnell: Really hard! The honest answer is I feel I need to slow down and take my time, because I have great expectations now, because I know there can be a character that's empowered and female and middle-aged and who can experience love at this age. I have great expectations. It's not always going to be in the writing, and that's OK, too. The point is I'm spoiled by Ron and his writing staff and by Eddie, and by everyone, really. Not ... spoiled. I've been ... uplifted, and I don't want to come back down. It may take a little time.

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By JavaMan at 7:36 AM ON 03/24/09

Mary is a talented actress and a beautiful woman. I'm glad she signed on to such an amazing series.

By jolinar at 7:47 AM ON 03/24/09

I agree with you Javaman.

By Angel at 7:51 AM ON 03/24/09

The very end of the series finale was confusing. Was it confusing for anybody else?

By scifiguy at 8:29 AM ON 03/24/09

I found the ending illogical... how would a technological society just decide to give up all tech??? Once something is learned it cannot be unlearned... and it does not make sense that it ended up being our Earth after all... these people were obviously NOT lower on the evolutionary ladder than we are now, so why would fossil record not show this? Would there not be a quantum jump in the evolutionary process if an biologically more advanced species started mating with a "lower" species? Would there not have been changes that would have occurred naturally over a long period of time just suddenly appearing? Regardless of whether or not you believe in evolution, fossil records would have shown a new species just suddenly showing up, I would think.

By billhedrick at 8:44 AM ON 03/24/09

scifiguy, BFG culture was always a bit luddite, and they came to despise the tech they where forced by their exile to use, you and I wouldn't do it, but their rejection makes sense when you look at the history and culture. On your second point, you could postulate that the Neanderthals where the residents and the Cro-Magnons were the Capricans. The transition from Neanderthal to modern man is kinda sketchy, so this would work.

By Klijpo at 8:58 AM ON 03/24/09

Scifiguy, if you were paying attention, you would have heard that Baltar said the Earth humans were genetically identical to the fleet humans. It was also 150 thousand years ago. If you read up on your science, you will discover that modern man* appeared approx. 150,000 years ago in sub-Saharan Africa (whilst at the same time the Neanderthal were in Europe, and only Europe). The boffins suggest language developed sometime after *Homo Sapiens Sapiens first appeared, so the implication is that the Galacticans gave us language, probably the greatest gift anyone/thing could ever bestow on us. Much more impressive than mere technology.

By anachronite at 9:37 AM ON 03/24/09

thats just it scifi guy, current fossil records do not prove evolutionary theory. most of the proof is missing, the in-betweens if you will. not to mention carbon dating is exteermily inaccurate, especially as items get older. It's all guess work and theory. NO one really knows for sure. as for abandoning technology, well thats easy. technology is what nearly wiped them out. Apollo said it best, what better way to wipe the slate clean. It was a brilliant idea.

Will miss you and the show Mary, your work is always incredible. Thank you for 4 seasons of greatness!

By hebramleigh at 9:42 AM ON 03/24/09

It makes perfect sense to me that the remaining humans would be willing to give up technology. These people had lived through the complete destruction of their own worlds, witnessed the remains of Kobolt devistated by war, had their second "settlement" destroyed by cylons, found a nuclear-blasted earth, and lived through 4 years of absolute terror while being persued by through space. A recurring theme throughout the series is that humanity was stuck in a vicious cycle of war caused by technology. After all they had witnessed and knowing they were all that remained of humanity, I can easily see the population being willing to give up their own creature-comforts in an attempt to ensure the future of their children.
If nothing else, a planet with no cities or overt technology would be highly unlikely to be located or seen as a threat by any surviving cylons bent on revenge.
Many bloggers have torn apart the finale because it was so grounded in religion and the intervention of a higher power. Did they not watch any of the series? Almost every episode gave evidence that in the BSG world there was a higher power at work. The finale actually upheld the theme of the entire series!

By K'Rik at 11:02 AM ON 03/24/09

Thank you Mary and the entire cast, crew and Ron for a great series.

I can't wait to see what you all do next.

By malohombre at 11:09 AM ON 03/24/09

I can only speak for myself.After coming down from the adrenal rush that the first hour gave me, I was a little bit let down by the last half,However watching it again, you pick up on all the things you missed and it makes you appreciate it more.I , myself am glad Moore didn't give us that perfect little ending wrapped up in a pretty little bow.

By BVK at 12:10 PM ON 03/24/09

I understand the disappointment that some folks feel about the BSG finale, because it wasn't 2+ hours of things getting blowed up real good. I appreciated it on 2 basic levels: 1) it REALLY brought the show to a conclusion (which I had concerns about) and 2) I felt like the end was EXTREMELY consistent with the concept of the original series, and that's where I think Ron deserves the most credit.

By JL at 12:27 PM ON 03/24/09

I watched the ending twice. The 2nd time was better then the first time because I could then fast forward past all those commercials. I am looking forward to watching the extended version commercial free! Excellent series ... a very moving ending. Thanks to all involved!

By briguy2789 at 12:48 PM ON 03/24/09

battlestar galactica will never die it will be back

By Zym at 3:32 PM ON 03/24/09

They would have returned to an agrarian state anyway. You cannot maintain a technological society without an industrial base. A random collection spacecraft on their last legs thousands of miles up the gravity well is not an industrial base. Those fancy laptop computers they had wouldn't be very useful unless you used them to dig post holes. Within a couple years all the tech items would have failed and there'd be no Fry's Electronics around for a while.

By Tom Black at 4:38 PM ON 03/24/09

While I enjoyed the finale immensely I could have lived without the preachy bit at the end with the Six and Baltar "angels". I think it would have been much more appropriate to end the series with the image of Adama at the grave.

By Ending was bad at 5:41 PM ON 03/24/09

The series fianl scen should have been the one where Adama was sitting watching the sunrise while talking to Laura about how beautiful the light was. The stuff about 150,000 years later about Herra being hinted at being Lucy was BAD totally unecessery and ruined an otherwise perfect . Sci-Fi you blew it with that shlock at the end. Next time leave some things for an intellegent viewer to imagine instead of spelling every tiny thing out.

By Klijpo at 7:19 PM ON 03/24/09

No, a bad ending would have been a scene of astronauts building a moonbase, when an ancient Centurion jumps up out of the dust and fraks 'em. That would have been bad. We didn't get that....

By ARLC at 8:26 PM ON 03/24/09

At the end of the day, nomatter what misgivings you all may have about the finale, Mary McDonnell was brilliant and I loved Laura Roslin. She was and always will be my favorite fictional heroine.

I look forward to seeing MARY kick some a$$ on the CLOSER.

By Scifi Reader at 1:48 AM ON 03/25/09

I enjoyed the final episode. A friend had guessed beforehand that maybe the end would involve the singularity that the base ship orbited, throwing them back in time? Back to the original colonies?

While the ending was a stretch I was okay with it. On giving up tech I looked at it this way, they were not living the high life on their ships. Most the civilians were barely hanging on. So once on the planet (beautiful location) they'd want that over their tech. I assumed that they would have some, especially the first generation would need it. But that it would slowly fail as their kids grew up and away from that life.

Maybe they could have showed that a bit, and it would have "worked" for people better... But without their ships and what they provided. They really had no base to build up from.

Might have been interesting to show a small group staying with the ships and continuing "a journey". Would have added some mystery. Other humans and the robotic cylons "out there".

Otherwise, a fantastic series. Set a new high water mark for science fiction on TV.

By Suprememango at 11:06 AM ON 03/25/09

Finally some posters who understand why they turned their back on technology. Enough said. and I think most of the posters who hated the higher power aspect of the finale were just venting their own issues about religion and spirituality and so forth. As Hebra said and as I have posted elsewhere, those themes ran throughout the length of the show. Apparently some viewers were hoping it would be explained away scientifically - no such luck.

To McDonnell you are a fantastic actress and it has been truly a pleasure watching you in that wonderful role for the past five years. I look forward to your work in the future.

By the Truth at 3:04 PM ON 03/25/09

The last hour of the final episode of BSG is not what was originally intended. The real ending was supposed to be an ultimate revelation that all the colonists were Cylons. There were no humans left period. This was to drive home the banality of war ... the true message of the series. This would also explain everything that was a question mark - e.g., how Hera was born, what is Kara Thrace, why Gaius and the Six saw projections of each other ...

However, if the ultimate secret was revealed, then who would watch Caprica ? What would be the point ?

So instead of ending the series with a bang, it ended with an illogical whimper.

By stealthgear at 10:57 PM ON 03/25/09

I saw hope in the finale. Any other type of ending would not be as meaningful and open to interpretation as the one we got.

The Truth:
On a different ending: If you didn't know that Cylons/Humans were the "same" before season 3, then your a moron. It was already implied with all the love interactions. Ending in some kind of "revelation" like this would be simplistic. The mystery was HOW and WHO, not what and why. The what and why's were gained by watching each single episode and gave it meaning.

If you look at Starbuck, her quest was to ask and find out "Who am I?" She received the answer at the end of the movie. If the writers just came out and told you what she was, then there would be no point to her. Your supposed to ask yourself the same thing Starbuck wants to know and be left eternally wondering. Am I a Cylon? What am I? Who am I? Nobody knows the answer for sure, but there is a purpose in (her) life. Starbuck's character is so transcendant that she still exists and matters after she's completely dissolved and gone. Maybe its insane, maybe it can be explained with time travel theories, but I just think it was a better choice than having her stuck on earth. She is sort of like the baby in 2001 space Odyssey.

They had to abandon tech because it would violate the prime directive living with the ancient humans. After all that time in space they wanted to live an authentic life in peace. However, I bet they kept some of the technology for safety. Its not like they had replicators or manufacturing. Any tech would eventually degrade. They didn't want to destroy the earth also.

I think the Finale was toward the more intellectual side and spiritual side of human life. It was exciting. I think this stuff is genius on the level of 2001 A Space Odyssey. Most people thought that movie was dumb too, but we are still talking about it. because its themes were eternally relevant, and I can see that with Battlestar Galactica.

By BigW at 4:10 AM ON 03/26/09

I watched both the original Series and the New and what I here from you folks is a pro group of the ending and a contra group.

I enjoyed the ending greatly and if you notice it's ending is the being of the Old Series.

to paraphraze " Some believe life here starter somewhere out there"; and then they go on to name multiple great cultures. Did you notice that different groups went to different areas of the planet. Yes it was 150,000 years ago - but can you not see that where they gave up technology they didn't give up on the philosophy, and don't forget Baltar stated that he saw a great area to farm. I feel that at the very least we have the start of the legend of Atlantis. I loved BSG and all of the cast.

By ttatt at 12:41 PM ON 03/27/09

BigW,

There is one problem: they NEVER referenced Atlantis, farming, and they arrived with no technology which would serve as a pattern for future civilization. Humans and cylons BROKE the cycle of war after the final battle at the colony. Why humans would give up technology when they could live in harmony with cylons and centurions is beyond reason. Instead, these humans gave up civilization on earth when all along they've complained about the lack of civilization within the fleet in the aftermath of the colonial nuclear holocaust. It just doesn't make sense. Humanity deserved better than cultural oblivion, thus re-starting the human-cylon cycle of war. Doh!

By Laura at 11:52 PM ON 04/11/09

It was't the fact that they gave up technology that bothered me, but by doing that Moore made it about the technonlogy, suggesting that 'the human condition' didn't have any thing to do with it, which I feel is not the case....In addition to make Lee a 'cynic' in the end and seperate from his father, knowing he is about to loose the love of his life, is all unproductively illogical....on top of that a 67 yr old Bill sitting next to a grave all by himself crying does not help me to see him as a child in Caprica...and by not showing 'peaceful interaction' with the aberiginies leaves and eerir unsettling tragedy when concerning Hera, as she died ' a young woman'...all of that seperating made inner six's last words heavily condisending and took any redemtive qualities of tha nature of god sucked dry right out of the entire series....why make a show heavily writen with ' god in the machine' and then take it out in the end...and pass Hera as the forbidden fruit torth onto us...making Starbucks whole worry about being forgetten exactly that, a whole race and origin forgotten...

By maggie at 11:46 AM ON 04/21/09

Mary You are my Hero !
Love You !
Take care sweetness :)
yours maggie


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