

Battlestar Galactica executive producer Ron Moore has been discussing last week's series finale with fans on the BSG forum, where he dropped an interesting tidbit about an ending that might have been.
In this version of the story, the Galactica herself ends up on Earth instead of being flown into the sun, and she also manages to show up in our present-day timeline:
"There was a point in the development process where we discussed the idea of the Galactica not being destroyed, but having somehow landed on the surface more or less intact, but unable to ever get into orbit again (the particulars here were never worked out, so don't ask how she made it down without being torn apart). We talked about them basically abandoning the ship and moving out into the world.
"Cut to the present-day in Central America where there are these enormous mysterious mounds that archeologists have not been able to understand (it may have been South America, I can't recall the exact location, but these mounds really do exist). Someone is doing a new kind of survey of the mounds with some kind of ground-penetrating radar or something and lo and behold, we see the outlines of the Galactica still buried under the surface."
Moore said they ultimately didn't go with the ending because they wouldn't have been able to reconcile it with the "reality" of the series.
"It was an intriguing idea and we bandied it about for a while, but ultimately rejected it as a little too cute and also felt that it would violate our contemporary reality, in essence 'branching off' the BSG story in 2009 into an parallel reality where a battlestar was discovered in Central America. I wanted the end of the show to directly relate to us, not to a world where that event had occurred."
By ecgordon at 4:51 PM ON 03/27/09
What's wrong with creating an alternate reality? It's not like there is evidence we are descended from human-Cylon pairings you know.
By datarat at 5:02 PM ON 03/27/09
It wouldn't have given them enough time to beat us over the head with the evils of consumerism and technology.
By syfyfan at 5:07 PM ON 03/27/09
I'm glad they didn't go with that ending. It would've been another example of how this team would jack up another franchise. First Star Trek, now this...
By Justo at 5:15 PM ON 03/27/09
I agree with Ronny, it would have been too cute. Kind of interesting, but not worth undermining the greater message of the show and the finale in particular.
By Muldfeld at 5:26 PM ON 03/27/09
I'm glad they didn't go with this because it would allow any nationalistic American or Israeli or anyone who wants to ignore how the series portrays the motivation behind terrorism/suicide bombings or the conception of "the other". Too much of Western culture has grown up on simplistic notions of "the other", such that Bush can actually get away with what he's done and Obama can feel pressured to obey the idiotic whims of the right wing and murder or disregard the plight of Palestinians or Pakistanis or whomever. He's already killed innocents just like all Presidents before him. "All of this has happened before...." The real message of the series is about how we treat each other, not whether we create AI.
By Masque at 5:29 PM ON 03/27/09
I agree that ending wouldn't have fit Battlestar Glactica at all in its current incarnation.
Macross, however....
By stephen sheridan at 5:39 PM ON 03/27/09
sounds like something from stargate!!!
By ramusqel at 5:52 PM ON 03/27/09
He felt that and i quote"they wouldn't have been able to reconcile it with the "reality" of the series." then where does the angels com into being reality? Hmmmmmm, i wonder.
By Azgoroth at 6:04 PM ON 03/27/09
I for one would have loved an ending like that. Unless they managed to destroy all their metal tools and other futuristic equipment they would have left an archaeological mess anyway. (metal doesn't always rust) Even Hera's remains would have had some futuristic stuff to them as she was shown in the real ending.
By What??? at 6:11 PM ON 03/27/09
the alternate ending sounded a lot more realistic than the quasi-religious rubbish we were made to suffer through - so much more could've been done - for instance Starbuck could have been decsended from a the artistic cylon who there could have been a surviving line after the attack on the planet that wasnt (or was) earth... methinks the final episode was a big cop out and I personally feel completely ripped off and let down by this sub-par show final after 4 intensely clever seaons
By amonrahunter at 6:36 PM ON 03/27/09
Nothing currently build by human hands could or would survive 150,000 yrs - tools, buildings, carvings, etc. - not even the pyramids(which at the outside are no more than 10-15 thousand yrs old)! That being said a ship that can sustain how many nuke blasts? how many other explosions? etc. BSG at her prime, which she certainly wasn't at the end, might have been able to survive in parts for 150,000 yrs - maybe.
As for the human/cylon cross over not being evident, no so. Human are reported to be the only lifeforms on Earth to have different DNA. While we are close 99% to monkeys there are bands on the human DNA strands which can not be identified to any other lifeforms on Earth. Funny how humans appeared right out of thin air 150,000 yrs ago.
So was thin Ron Mooore & Co. being super insightful? Not really they just took a page out the history books. Nope not the ones you learned from in school. The older ones - much much much older. The BSG ending is taken almost literally from ancient human history which The Chariots of the Gods and The Twelfth Planet are based on - ancient human history lost in whole surviving only in bits and pieces only to be repressed for the last 2000 or so years by fanatics hell bent on control and domination, you might have heard of these organizations nowadays called organized religion.
Even when BSG 1.0 aired they could not have gotten away with this ending. But things have changed in the last 30 yrs - somewhat. Even now BSG 2.0 rankles people with that ending and is statement about the ambiguity of religion/s.
But if we follow the BSG 2.0 time line as presented what does the future hold? Terminators? Or maybe Vorlons and Shadows?
By hitchhikerrob at 7:11 PM ON 03/27/09
boy, kind of sounds like Mr. Moore might have been reading the "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy".
By Kvetch at 7:30 PM ON 03/27/09
Ron's soft, yet still hard-core flowing mullet just plain rocks. That is one of the better glamor pics I have ever seen of a dude. The way the soft light hits his feathered lavish curls is just rockin x2. If I liked guys I would print this out real big and tear down my Samantha Fox poster and hang this up.
By bigbenn at 7:50 PM ON 03/27/09
that ending would have been cool on the special feats. on the dvd
By KC at 9:35 PM ON 03/27/09
"...and also felt that it would violate our contemporary reality. "
And angles and all human beings being descended from Cylon hybrids somehow doesn't?
By scifi at 10:05 PM ON 03/27/09
What happen to the vipers and the shuttles?
By et at 10:36 PM ON 03/27/09
He felt it was to cute?
Like Starbuck being an angel with amnesia while supposedly still being the" harbinger of death" Whose death?
Or a technoligically advanced people giving up all technology. It must have been fun wathing everyone die of treatable illnesses.
By DynaMike at 12:11 AM ON 03/28/09
That would have made a LOT more sense than 40,000 people arguing about which pieces of technology from the dying Galactica they can scavenge for their ships one week, only to say "Frak technology, let's go native!" the following week. It also would have made much more sense than the visions of the Opera House that people had been having for several years being explained by two angels as "Hey Baltar and Six, protect Hera for all of two minutes while she runs through Galactica. Or not, since Cavill grabbed her and held a gun to her head anyway."
By Dellobo at 12:28 AM ON 03/28/09
Ron create a follow up "Beyond Galactica". Cut back to one of the ships in the fleet planning to secretly keep their technology and ship. This happens while everyone is being dropped off around the earth. As Galactica enters the sun, their ship is programmed to break orbit and return to earth. It picks up various groups from around the earth and lands in the Azores. Uses technology to build new city. Stays on Island and monitors the rest of the world as the watchers. You could call this Atlantis. Series shows weekly the building of the city, the struggles of these surviors that didn't give up technology. They go out from time to time and help guide the human race in the right direction. They are recordered in cave drawings, the bible and other ways over time. UFO's to others. Atlantis finally sinks, but whose to say they don't survive undetected in a underwater city. On and on. It makes for a spin off.
By Arend at 3:17 AM ON 03/28/09
For me it would be a moor realistic ending than the end there is now, for one, there Gould be a spin-off made in the real-time.
An other thing was to create a follow-up on earth but than in a million years ago reality that go's down after a couple of hundred years by the Cylon so you will not find any thing in this time.
By Captain Jack Harkness at 8:19 AM ON 03/28/09
That would have been a better ending. As searchers walk inside the remains of the hull of Galactica and enter CIC, there's still a few flickering lights, and Anders sitting in his tub, watched over by the Angel Six and Baltar to either side, with Jimi playing over, is quoting the lines "There must be some kind of way out of here, said the joker to the thief. There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief. END OF LINE." Fade to black.
By shayd at 9:54 AM ON 03/28/09
I would have gone with a splash down in the ocean and an emergency evacuation asthe ship broke apart that didn't leave much room for debate over salveging tech or going native. Then, instead of "title card: 150,000 years later" they could have done a 150,000 year time laspe photography of the remains ofthe hull disolving in the rolling blue oceans of Earth, rise up out of the water and the coast is covered with cities, not unlike the Caprica we were shown four years ago.
It would have made a nice transition and important counterpoint to the poisoned ocean and ruined coastline they found on the Cylon Earth.
By sparrrownightmare at 10:27 AM ON 03/28/09
LMFAO! Reality of the series..... LOL LOL... He has got to be kidding... He has freakin angels and messiahs and all kinds of religious fantasy going on, and he is talking about reality... What a Freakin hypocrit! If you had dropped the God angle idiot. Then there might have been some reality to it.
Not everyone is Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. Keep religion out of it.
One upshot is that nice picture at the top of the article. It will make a great dart board...
"Moore said they ultimately didn't go with the ending because they wouldn't have been able to reconcile it with the "reality" of the series."
By Stankfoot at 12:12 PM ON 03/28/09
Wait till they find that lone Raptor parked on the dark side of the moon. Adama had a bizarre sense of humor you know. Come on! That would have been a great one liner Kera could have thrown out at the end.
In addition to the "fresh start" ditch all tech and join the Nomads thing all they had to do was throw in some dialogue that explained the benefit of not having future cylons find them because of a fleet parked near the planet. The idea that the Galactica would land on the planet is bunk. Its BS in Star Trek too.
By rkf at 4:02 PM ON 03/28/09
Re: "The reality of the series." Every story has its own internal reality; it's a perfectly legitimate concern to try to stay true to that.
Re: "Religious fantasy." The people who are endlessly moaning about the religious and spiritual aspects of the finale obviously paid no attention to the development of the whole story. These elements have been present in the story since the miniseries. Many of these elements were recurring themes throughout, and neatly tied up plot issues that had occurred prior to the ending.
By Someone Else at 4:10 PM ON 03/28/09
I for one was very satisfied with the ending. Yes, I wish I there had been a different ending for Kara Thrace, but what Moore's team gave us was still beautiful.
People complain too much. It seems to be in the nature of too many of the "fanboy" community, they have to have something to bitch about.
And by the way, this isn't the first time Science Fiction dealt with the concepts of "God" or a "higher power." Babylon 5, created by J. Michael Straczynski (an avowed ATHIEST btw) dealt with such issues, as did the movie 2001. Those who are bitching about the religious overtones sure didn't pay attention to what Baltar said to Cavil (he specifically talked about it not necessarily being "God" but some higher power, which could be anything from Vorlons, to Beings of Light aliens from the original BSG, to Star Trek's "Q".
Reading the complaints some of these idiots have made reminds me why so many people look down on SciFi fans. Too many ignorant bitchy whining LOSERS.
By unicron26 at 6:18 PM ON 03/28/09
My question is what happened to the Vipers and the Raptors are they barried somewhere what about the shuttles are they in some cave in africa or in anartica
By QuasiOdo at 11:25 PM ON 03/28/09
If I were God, I'd be wondering why Ron didn't use the brain I gave him- a brain that came up with four years of brilliant storytelling- to write a better ending instead of copping out and blaming it all on ME.
By Knight Rider at 6:03 AM ON 03/30/09
I think it would have been cool to see it they could have made an alt ending for the dvd release as an extrea.
By hebramleigh at 9:26 AM ON 03/30/09
Mulfeld:
Not only have you proven yourself an anti-semitic, but now you've shown just how bigoted you are against anyone who doesn't share your liberal, close-minded beliefs. How you got those comments from watching BSG is mind-blowing enough, but the fact that you obviously prefer a middle-eastern culture that murders anyone who does not follow their mind-set, makes slaves of women, and keeps their population in abstract poverty and ignorance to serve religious "masters."
I guess you keep your wife at home and uneducated unless she's wrapped from head to toe in a black sheet. I guess you would kill your daughter if she was caught speaking to a boy without a male adult in the room. These are the practices of the "virtuous" people you defend on many of your posts.
You, sir, are a hypocrit and a dangerous individual.
By KnowWhatYouAreTalkingAbout at 10:54 AM ON 03/30/09
Many of the materials in that ship would surely have survived 150,000 years. Scientists have found tools made of bone in Africa that are 75,000 - 90,000 years old. If bone tools could survive that long, a Battlestar made of materials that can travel in space and survive nuclear missile attacks could surely last 60,000 years longer.
By jhawks1510 at 1:51 PM ON 03/30/09
Not descended from Cylons??? Speak for yourself...
By Zefrem at 4:02 PM ON 03/30/09
I would have loved to see us in our time find the Galactia covered and buried and watched as we find out about the story of what these people and this ship had to go through. I know that every culture has it's lost tribe of people who lost their home because of war or disaster but to have them leave nothing for us to find no matter how many years past just her bones ....what a loss of a great ender.
By tooteelc at 8:03 PM ON 03/30/09
Thank you so much "What???." You captured my feelings about the end of the series perfectly! What you wrote was better than anything we had to endure during 4.5. As far as the final season; you have to give them credit for staying consistent-it was incredibly lame right to the end!
By seanof30306 at 4:33 AM ON 04/01/09
Anything would have been better than the crappy ending we got.
Hint (also to the producers of "Lost"): if you want a story to make sense, plot out the arc (including the ending) BEFORE you spend two years writing the story. The whole interview in the last frakking special where they discussed how they decided who the final Cylon would be revealed the fundamental flaw with these shows. A big part of the fun for the person watching a show with "mysteries" is to watch carefully for clues so you can figure them out. When it is revealed that the writers and producers are making the story up as they go, it ruins the experience for the viewer. All of the hints and clues dropped as to the identity of the final Cylon were absolutely B.S., as even they didn't know! Maybe it's an interesting challenge for writers to paint themselves into corners, then come up with "brilliant" ploys to get themselves out of it, but for us viewers, it's just crap.
Again, pay attention Lost!
Also, after all of the consternation and questions about Starback and what the heck was going on with her, for her to just be an "angel" and disappear is total crap.
By n4gix at 1:45 PM ON 04/04/09
Absolutely! JMS has proven the "story arc" paradigm works beautifully. The only "bump in the road" for the five-year arc of Babylon 5 was not JMS' fault, but the brilliant recovery of the delayed "fifth year" demonstrates that a well-developed story arc can survive even such a disruption.
As for the "Lost" series, the ones who're truly lost are the script writers...
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