Wasn't the SHOW based off the MOVIE "Buffey the vampire slayer" with the guy from 90210?

Yep. Joss created that, too.

The show wasn't based off the movie, the movie was supposed to be like the show. BUT Joss didn't have the clout at the time and the movie is what happens when studio execs f- the movie up.

The show was after the events of the movie with Buffy moving to a new town, her principal watching her closely because she burned her previous high school to the ground and her getting a new watcher (Giles).

I never liked Sarah Michelle-Gellar's attitude about a possible Buffy movie...she always said it had already been done and it wasn't very successful. That's like a slap in the face to the fans who supported the TV series all those years. The TV series was nothing like the movie and any movie spawned from the TV series would have been infinitely better and more successful that the original attempt. I'd rather see a movie based on Faith or Spike...or better yet...both!

Please, no Faith.
But Spike and Zander!!!!

Not necessarily. I understand a female producer owns the movie rights to Buffy, to at least, produce a parody of the character for film, so I guess, she is the one who says it is a go, or not?

One more thing, Joss' statement sounds like he is in the middle of negotiations for a Buffy film, but the tone of his statement sounds as if he does not want Sarah Michelle Gellar Prince back as Buffy as she appears to be very negative toward Joss and the rest of the cast. I am guessing Joss, based upon Gellar Prince's nasty attitude, even toward her Buffy fans, is going to be looking to recast all the parts and reboot Buffy with a new cast. All you have to do is read between the lines of Joss' own words to draw that conclusion. His statement seems like a clear and intentional shot across Gellar Prince's bow. I can't say that I am sad, any longer, to see her go, since she has been such an unrelentingly meanspirited person toward the fans of the show.

Uber Critic,

Nothing in Whedon's statement suggested anything like what you said. There is no hint of a reboot or anything. Read what you want to read "between the lines," but there is NOTHING THERE TO READ.

Whedon's comment is simple and clear--"Not gonna happen." Yeah, that really sounds like "I'm working on a deal to reboot the franchise with a new cast." Uh-huh...yeah...sure...gotcha...

To: Paul B.

Whedon didn't deny it is happening, or that it isn't, he really just dodged the question like a lawyer, much like Bill Clinton's famous words, "It depends on what your meaning of is, is?" Joss could have simply said, it is not happening, whatsoever, and ended any and all speculation, but suspiciously, he didn't do that, he just said you'll hear it from me first, no other sources, if it does happen. Not his exact words, but words to that effect, and that is my point...he is leaving a nebulous door open, which means, at least, most of the time...in Hollywood speak, that talks are going on somewhere about a movie, and in this case, a Buffy movie--and since the source or sources about this Buffy movie talk seem to be tied to Sarah Michelle Gellar Prince's camp, it looks like Joss is putting them in their place, and very aggressively stating, "I am in charge, not you...show some respect, or else!"

Uber Critic,

Could you pull anything more out of your ass? How does reading between ANY of those lines say reboot and re-cast? He already did that when he made the series. Joss loves SMG just as much as all his other actors (which is a lot). I suppose he put her in Dr. Horrible (an extra in the crowd scene during "Everyone's a Hero") because he hated her so much?? Besides, when asked recently about doing a Buffy movie, SMG said she was very excited by the idea. I do agree with you that he's not ruling it out completely. Otherwise, yes, he wouldn't have said "Unless you hear it from me".

Uber Critic, it sounds to me like he's saying, "Don't believe anything until I say it. If someone else says it, it's probably an unsubstantiated rumor." Which makes perfect sense since this another rumor bouncing around.

And he did flat out say it... when he said, "Not gonna happen," which does sound an awful lot like "no". So even reading between the lines, it's hard to see where you're coming from.

Your inference is a beautiful tale, but it's just that. The words don't back up (even slightly) what you said.

I'm so sick of the SMG hate. If you've got issues with her, fine, but don't try and create a conspiracy that everyone else hates her to. And don't use this as an avenue for you to make digs at the woman.

The only way anyone could have read that and got out of it “he’s planning on rebooting the series but without SMG because he hates her” is if they wanted. What a ludicrous thing to say.

Jon D, Joss Whedon has confirmed that SMG was not featured in Dr Horrible - that was another unsubstantiated rumour / misinterpretation. Also, SMG has never stated any great enthusiasm for a film. Her stance has always been the same - she is not convinced by the idea but would consider it if a deal was made and the script was good enough.

Uber Critic, I fail to see how Whedon's latest comment can in any way be interpreted as a veiled reference to SMG or others. He is simply saying that contrary to a recent rumour there is no film in the works. There is nothing more to be read into it.

Gellar's attitude has never been "nasty". She played the lead role in the TV series across seven seasons and then she wanted to go and do something else, just as Whedon wanted to do other things. I don't see what is wrong with that.

If a film ever is made, and I very much doubt there will be one, it won't be Whedon or Gellar calling the shots - it will be the people with the money. Until that happens there is no chance of a film

To: Amygirl

SMGP, has a well known reputation for being nasty to her cast mates as stated by those very cast mates, both from her soap opera days, as well as her Buffy days. In fact, the cast and crew of Buffy including Alyson Hannigan, and Eliza Dushku...etc., have all distanced themselves from her...and have said, and or, strongly indicated all was not rosy on the Buffy set, with the villain always being SMG...now SMGP.

As far as the Buffy movie, I am making an educated guess based upon how Hollywood works, and my life long knowledge of it. Maybe I am wrong, but I have a gut feeling indicating otherwise.

amygirl check out the Dr horrible DVD and the spoken commentary. Joss cleary states and points out SMG in the crowd of 'Everyone's a Hero'. SMG contacted Joss and showed up on set. It was her idea to participate.

Fransica, Joss Whedon intended that as a joke because of the rumour that was going around the Internet. He has subsequently stated for the record that it is not SMG.

Here is a link to a video interview with Joss Whedon in which he states that it was not SMG:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/VIDEO-Whedon-Gellar-1003385.aspx

Uber Critic, that is unsubstantiated gossip. There are plenty of reliable quotes from people like Seth Green, Julie Benz and others, including Joss Whedon, to contradict this gossip. Nobody denies that there were disagreements from time to time, as happens in all walks of life, but there is no convincing evidence to support much of the rubbish that has been spread around the Internet over the years - unless you want to count the rantings of Jeff Pruitt, whose claims have been widely dismissed and who was also critical of Joss Whedon for sacking him, the initial motivation for the claims he made.

By the way, why do you insist on calling her SMGP? Her professional name has not changed. In her private life she is now officially Sarah Michelle Prinze. She is not known as Sarah Michelle Gellar Prinze and unless you are personally acquainted with her, for professional purposes she is still Sarah Michelle Gellar.

To: AmyGirl

No...I am accurate. I have seen both Eliza and Alyson Hannigan in interviews...as well, I have seen other Buffy cast members on Howard Stern, and they to a person, have either directly, or indirectly, bashed Gellar. As well, an article in EW, indicated that the cast and crew of Buffy were taken off guard by the cancellation of the show which occurred at the behest of Gellar...and they were non-too pleased about it as many had financially tied household obligations to take care of, and they found-out that the show was cancelled when Gellar announced that she was leaving the show in a magazine article.

Further, Hannigan said, on Stern, that she and Gellar use to be close, very close, but firmly indicated that Gellar had done off putting things that led to Hannigan no longer looking at her as a friend. I am paraphrasing, as these are not her exact words, it has been some years since I saw, and heard it, but she made it perfectly clear that she does not like SMG, and the feeling is mutual, and this is, and was, all SMG's doing. And as for her part, Eliza didn't seem too supportive of SMG either, as she spoke to Stern.

Uber Critic, we are not going to agree about this, I think that is a given.

For what it is worth, regarding the comment made by Alyson Hannigan about Gellar's public announcement in EW that she was leaving the show at the end of season seven, Joss Whedon has subsequently stated on at least two occasions that all the actors were fully aware of the situation and that the crew were his responsibilty. Why Hannigan chose to say what she did is a matter for her, but it does not in anyway lend any weight to the gossip you have referred to.

As to Eliza Dushku, I am not aware of a direct quote made by her that is critical of Gellar. I am not saying she likes or dislikes Gellar - I have no idea about her opinions either way - but she has never, to my knowledge, actually stated on public record anything negative about Gellar.

Anyway, you you believe what you believe to be true and I will believe what I believe to be true - and as such we will never agree with each other.

It does seem interesting to me how even in his denial he is keeping the door open...

Oh and as far as bashing SMG if there is a TV show ever made where the supporting actors do not get jealous of the lead actor...I have never seen it. Check out the history between James Doohan and William Shatner for example...yet if I recall they did make a few movies after the TV show was no longer...

I don't know how true what Ubercritic is saying but it does have the ring of truth to me, I seem to recall seeing/hearing things that support what he/she's saying. Plus, I'm more inclined to believe negative talk from someone in Hollywood more than positive as you always hear in interviews and press junkets how nice a person is to work, how wonderful they are but outside of the mainstream media you hear how bad a person really was. Just ask yourselves, when was the last time you ever heard an actor, director, or producer ever say anything bad about their co-stars in any of these things? They don't because they can't , not if they want to continue working. William Shatner comes to mind as a perfect example of this, on the record (especially during the time of the first 6 movies) all of the (TOS) cast members always having nothing but great things to say about him but off the record all but Nimoy and DeForest Kelley say how much of a jerk he was and the he was a line counter and generally an all around a-hole. So I wouldn't put too much faith in what you read and hear in most of the mainstream media about what an actor/director/producer has to say about a given actor since they never say anything bad.

People like UberCritic think they know the actors personally because they watched them on television. If you don't know the truth personally, then watching interviews and attempting to infer people's motivations and feelings about others... you're in for a rough ride.

I don't think people are disagreeing with the possibility that what UberCritic says might be true (emphasis on might), however UberCritic's "I"m right and you're wrong and I can prove it because I'm right" stance is putting people off.

Just like I can't really infer UberCritic's motivation for seemingly hating SMG, neither can UberCritic know what actors or actresses "really meant" in their quotes.

It will happen-Twilight blows-there's only one true Vampire story.Buffy,and of Angel.I'm a huge fan-believe me when I tell you-Joss has something in the works.

I think Joss is just sick of answering that question. And each time another gossip site perpetuates the rumor, he is annoyed at having to address it every 6 months. It's like asking him about writing strong women characters, its just enough already.

JusticeDemon:

I don't think I know anybody on that set, I can only tell you what they said in interviews and refer to articles about the cast and crew being angry over finding-out that their jobs didn't exist anymore when SMG announced to a magazine, without telling anyone onset, that she was quiting the show in advance. Those are facts, as well as Alyson Hannigan saying that she and SMG are not friends anymore, and don't like each other. Again, I am paraphrasing the spirit of her words. She spoke in extreme, and lengthy detail about them not getting along anymore. According to reports, Alyson won't even appear with her (SMG) anywhere, that is how deep the separation has become. Again, these are all facts, and if you are angry about it, take it out on them, not the messenger.

To: Riceball

Thank you for being fair. I started off as a fan of SMG, a big fan, but after years of hearing these negative things about her, and reading them in magazines...and even seeing, and hearing her co-stars bad mouth her, and to witness her repeatedly ignore her loyal fans, I just became resigned to what appears to be the truth.

SMG's negative reputation goes back to her soap days, and appears to be a pattern of behavior, so this isn't an issue of jealous co-stars, as one of our fellow posters attempted to allege, without foundation. All of the other actors on Buffy have clean reputations, to a person, on and off the set, as well as with their new and past ventures, all except SMG, and that is just too much of coincidence...to not be true, or to ignore.

I like the Buffy character and I thought that SMG did a great job in that character. However I must admit I am disappointed in her as an actress to fans. I understand that she's under no obligations to do anything more outside of doing the show. But so many fans love that show and they extended that love to her. Many fans bought DVDs (some bought multiple copies to share with friends and family). Her interview with EW was very off-putting to me because she came across as wanting nothing more to do with BtVS (almost as if she is better than BtVS and that she made the show. Maybe she did but I suspect many actress could have done a great job with that character as well). I've seen other actors being more gracious when departing a show and made sure not to offend the fans. But I am afraid SMG didn't do that as there are a number of fans not being happy with her. You can say she's just being honest but it's a fine line between honesty and rudeness. All in all, I still find myself watching BtVS over and over again. And every time I am impressed with her acting in it. But while she may have fulfilled her obligation to fans by doing good work in BtVS, I also feel I have fulfill my obligation as a fan to recognize her accomplishment in that show and don't feel I need to support her in other projects. So I guess she and I are even as actor and fan. If only she has been more appreciative of her fans and did a few commentaries on the DVD, I would have continue to support her simply because she's Buffy and not just SMG. Although neither Alyson or Eliza did a commentary on the DVD, they were always very gracious in their comments about the Buffy fans and the show (at least they never said that they were totally done with BtVS. As a result, I am still interested in supporting them in their careers. But with SMG, I guess she's done as Buffy as far as I am concern. If there is another Buffy project, I would like to see an older Buffy, play by some other older actress, with the rest of the cast. With Joss' imagination, I am sure he could come up with an absolute great idea of why older Buffy has changed so much in look. And if Joss wants SMG back, I guess it's ok but she has to live with Buffy over her head for the rest of her life--for many it would be a wonderful thing but for her, maybe not.

I hate to break it to you Uber Critic but it isn’t SMG’s job to tell the cast and crew that the show was over. She’s an actor, just like them. It was Joss’ job to do that, who’s the creator of the series and the boss. Joss had said how he and Sarah had talked about how it would be ending at the very start of the season.

Why people such as yourself get off on this kind of gossip is beyond me, but that’s all it is. You weren’t on set, you don’t know any of these actors personally. So you’re completely uninformed. If you watch the dailies for season six you’ll see how warm and happy SMG was on set to her fellow cast members *including Alyson.* There’s one scene in particular where Sarah playfully tugs Alyson off screen.

SMG has said numerous times how the show wouldn’t have been a success if it wasn’t the fans, she said it most recently at Paley as well. So no, she doesn’t think she’s the reason the show was a success. This kind of reminds me of when Paley was announced and you had all the idiots making snarky comments how there isn’t a chance in hell SMG would ever show up… and then she did.

I wouldn’t blame her if she didn’t. If she has to read people such as yourself bash her, when you’ve never even met her, then I wouldn’t want to bother with the fans either. Luckily she came for all the fans who don’t get a kick out of that sort of thing.

Only the TRUE Buffy movie messiah denies the existence of the Divine Buffy Movie. That must mean the movie is already in post production. Hosanna ! Hosanna ! Amen ! ! !

Next Week on Whack Job Party, How discarding, collecting, and fighting over shoes helps get the Buffy Movie made.

I'm a huge fan of Buffy The Vampire Slayer show mainly because of Spike! James Marsters was the best of that show! So, I'd love to see SPIKE MOVIE or Spike spin-off tv show!!!

Uber Critic,
You're on the verge of trolling...

buffywatcher,
I love the show just as much as other "huge" fans out there but there's something that upsets me about the fans. I really really dislike the selfishness that I see from within the fanbase. SMG put her heart into Buffy for years, always mentioned how much she loved the show, how much she appreciated the support from fans, and how much she loved working on BtVS. Everything she has said and done shows how grateful she was for the show, yet people like you basically want her to chop off an arm and a leg, bronze it and give it to you. SMG worked the longest hours on the show and when she wasn't working, was probably trying to get some rest. Actors aren't robots and need some time to themselves and their families just like normal people. Try putting in 16 hour days at the workplace and then tell me how you feel.

I can't believe that years later, this foolishness is still going on. Fans like you make me hate being a part of the fanbase because of the ridiculous demands and comments people continue to make in regards to the lead actor. So what if she didn't go to conventions or do DVD commentaries? Newsflash, actors get paid for going to conventions; they get an incentive. SMG has also made comments in the past that suggested that she didn't understand the point of DVD commentaries (this was before they became so commonplace). I don't know why people act like they're so interested in what she has to say in the first place. A while back, when she did actually offer her opinion of season six and certain storylines, half the fanbase got upset and basically ask that she shut her mouth because she was just an actress.

Sarah never stated that she was done with BtVS. Her position in that interview was that she would be willing to reprise the character for a good reason. In fact...here are a few interesting comments from that EW article about the end of BtVS:

"'' I was 18 when I started the show; I'm 26. I'm married. I never see my husband. This has been the longest span of my life in one place."

"I know they are planning a spin-off, and I would love to come back [for some episodes] -- assuming, of course, that they don't kill [Buffy]. The moment I say all this, I'm going to get the last script and go, ''Oh, my God!'' Look, this is so scary. I love this job, I love the fans. I love telling the stories we tell. This isn't about leaving for a career in movies, or in theater -- it's more of a personal decision. I need a rest."

"Of course. You run that risk with anything you do. [But to] be greatly identified with anything is a mark of success. My biggest fear right now is that people will blame me for [ending] the show. People are going to think that it's my fault that their favorite show is going off the air. And God knows we're always looking for someone to blame."

"Do you think people will hold it against you in a way that will hurt other things you want to do?
No, it's more personal than that. Less professional, more personal. I love the fans. We were a midseason replacement on The WB called ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer,'' based on a movie that was a flop. People were like, ''Don't worry, you'll get a pilot next season.'' People pitied me -- PITIED me. We couldn't pay directors to come here. Nobody wanted to be on our show. And look what happened."

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,422783,00.html

People seem to have selective memories when it comes to this article. Read it and tell me again how she sounds "ungracious."

Faith spin off, nuff said, not like fox is gonna give doll house a fair chance anyway so that free's the cast and crew, cud even keep some sets just change everyones name, already got faith and ilyria ha ha ha

well, until it's greenlit- everythings just rumors right now. A while back when the show ended, i believe another reason she "needed a rest" was due to the physical aspect of the character of Buffy. Bruises, etc. were mentioned by Joss as well, I think. Kind of important when your body takes a toll doing all that work. She said that she wasnt sure about doing a movie version of the show because watching a full season allows for a story that isnt rushed. Smushing it into a two hour movie kind of ruins what we're used to seeing before. Doing this through a 2 hr movie instead of a 22 episodes (appx 8 hrs total) show is a very different medium to tell a story (unless they continue it through more movies :D ) But she DID sat if the script was good, she'd do it. I think shes being realistic.

Adam,
I don't know where you got your "info" but it is wrong. The entire cast was signed for season 8. Whedon planned on doing season 8 but SMG was on the fence about returning for another year. Whedon was quoted as saying, "Sarah hasn't decided yet," when asked if there would be a season 8, just a few months before season 7 wrapped for the year. Ultimately SMG decided she didn't want to do the show anymore and the signed cast and crew were out of their jobs.

I have always been annoyed that Gellar left the role, the one she begged for in the beginning and the one that made her a star. The show, the cast and crew and what it meant to the fans didn't mean enough for her to do another season. I think she could have shown some gratitude to the show that made her famous and do another season, especially since everyone else was signed and the fate of the season rested on her decision. There is an irony to the fact that the person who so desperately wanted to be Buffy in the beginning had the power to end the show at the end.

For the people who are saying that SMG is completely rude and do not care about her fans are all wrong. She had dedicated seven years of her life to make the series come to life. If you think that is uncaring of her fans then you have something wrong with your head because many actors and actresses wouldn't even think about doing a show for that long...even there are shows that have don't get me wrong but she was very dedicated to do her best in the BTVS series.

So please stop calling her "rude" or that she having problems with other cast members which may or may not be true. You don't know the issue and i haven't seen anything about Hannigan saying anything against SMG.

Yes she was probably mad or disappointed that the show was ending but I'm sure that in someway SMG was sad about it ending too. She had build a very close relationship with all of the cast members. And for the ED saying anything negative or even addressing SMG in a rude tone or dismay was never heard of or seen. ED and SMG are very close friends and have supported each other in any project they have gone into. I think that maybe you interrupted the faith and Buffy issue which is unreal. They are very good friends as well as the rest of the cast members.

The only thing i remember that ever been said that could have been made into a rude statement was when Freddie Prince Jr. said that Sarah Michelle Gellar deserved to be in theaters instead of being found on television. Which you can find the video on youtube.com, but i don't take that negatively because all he wants is the best for her in which is why he says that she deserves bigger and better things in which many people started to dislike Prince for saying that.

so stop bashing SMG and her character if you don't know her personally or exactly whats going on in everyone head around her or that have meant her many people have said great things about her. And he lovely and sweet she was never was there a fan that said when they met Sarah she was rude or "ignoring them"

Well, 26 might be a bit old to play the original part of Buffy, might it not? So, maybe a new Slayer/ took over, and 7 years afterward, she/he turned? So, all the old guys get a special message to join forces--and some aren't happy. But you can't go back to Buffy the orignal series now. Secondly, aging sometimes takes away some of your acting gifts, and puts in others. So maybe the talent that was there, will be changed and can't fit the old roles anyway. Thirdly, actors owe their audience a decent try--with Buffy we had 7 wonderful fun years w/o much of a let down. Let's be grateful, not sour. Kirsten Dunst is waiting to look at a script and see if her part is something interesting for SPM 4. That's not wrong for her to do, or for Sarah. It protects the ideas somewhat, and the actress. They want to do good work. So, let's just see what happens---money is involved, but so is talent. And the slamming of SMG seems unworthy to me. She made me too happy to be upset with her. And if she wants to be cranky bec. she missed a lot while holding up the show---that's not unusual. Let her work it out. She earned the right to do so. Finally, she's at an age where she might want to start a family. That might be a consideration, abt. what she will do.

Wow... how can you guys love Buffy but hate the actual Buffy? I'm shocked at the SMG hate!

Also, to completely kill everyone here, I have just been informed by my best friend and the world's most avid Buffy fan that he has read an article (I'll find the link) that says that the people who own the rights to the Buffy franchise (not Joss by the way) want to make a movie without SMG that starts the story line over again. AGH!!!! This appalls me to no end.

Yep. I also saw the same info on E-online that the producers were planning a Buffy movie without any of the tv series people including Josh! Horrible idea (throwing rotten tomatoes at producers)

Didn't Sarah Michelle go with most of the cast (recently) to one of the Fan Cons or Comic Com? -For the first time. She is a multi millionaire, doesn't need the money or obviously the exposure- so I'd say she went 1/ she was happy to do that for the fans 2/ for Joss and I continually read her saying positive things about him, amazing things actually. 3/ from the footage I saw she seemed to be enjoying her time with the rest of her old cast mates. I think she has both grace and dignity around BUFFY and if the script was really good I'd bet she'd be in it.

The producers /franchise owners (non Joss) idea makes me want to throw up- it's Sarah Michelle or nobody....it can work for Star Trek but it won't work for Buffy! Don't any of those people ever read the comments on the Net, if they did they'd throw out that stupid idea.

Peter-Australia

If Whedon ever does decide to make a movie based on the "Buffy" series I hope it's better than the movie that was the series' prequel. That was a piece of junk.

I want to say as all others have said, that this is disrespectful to Joss Whedon and all creative/ writing staff.
This series is excellent because of the witty banter between characters, the combination of genres- romance, horror,comedy,action and of course THE ACTING!

WIthout this there is NO BUFFY, and I am 1 of probably 10,000 that won't see it!

@hmolsen,

Your language is confused. The movie was made first and the TV series was its sequel. If that "piece of junk", as you so eloquently put it, was never made we would not be here discussing the series because the series simply would never have been made.

I can understand your devotion to the quality production that was the series but take a deep breath and try to have a little perspective, because logically each new thing you find to disparage about the original movie only builds a stronger case for those that would see it remade. The more you diminish the original movie the quicker the people that have the power to remake it are going to come to the conclusion that any remake, even one without Whedon, is bound to be more successful.

I see no point to making another Buffy movie. Like Gellar said, it's been done. Now, Angel could do with a wrap-up, and Spike or Ripper could make great shows/movies. As Marsters says, though, a Spike movie would have to happen soon, before he's aged too much! Might make it not believable.