Trust Fox to screw up another Whedon series. Like the couldn't run the very last episode. I swear to God they have monkeys running that network. Bloody idiots!

Seems pretty astute of Fox to me.

They probably know from the DVD sales of "Firefly" that fans will buy the DVDs by the bucketload to see the true final episode of the series.

Well, here we are again. FOX completely fraking with a Whedon/Minear show. I agree with Danubus, they clearly have monkeys running the network. Why are the execs at FOX so oblivious?

So does that mean Fox has decided not to do another season, too? Or are they just axing the one episode?

Never watched the show but from what I've heard from some trusted people, it's pretty god awful. I mean, down right unwatchable. Though to be fair, I find that often when something inspires such negativity it's actually quite special and perhaps extraordinary. Network tv usually isn't the place for something like that though.

Well....... i have watched it.
And it is not an good show, I can understand why it would be canceld.
Let`s hope they will give other good show`s an chance, like TSCC, they deserve it at least.

The nature of Fox is to be dicks. However, leave it to Joss Whedon to bury a supposedly good episode (I haven't watched past Episode 3) 7 episodes in. He did this on Buffy and Angel. When is he going to learn? Start strong. Don't give people garbage at the start because no one's going to watch. This was a suicidal move on his part. I don't know why he does this stuff.

Dollhouse is a beautiful, brilliant show and sincerely hope it returns for a second season.

I hope FOX doesn't try to pull the same trick it did with the Lone Gunmen. They ran the thirteenth episode without fanfare a few weeks after the season ended. I got lucky and spotted it before it ran. It was even one of the good funny ones.

I hope it doesn't get canceled.
It got much better after the 3rd episode.

Although, if FOX cancels ANOTHER one of Whedon's shows, I trust he'll make the right decision and move on to another studio.

Like SciFi.

@Lucid

Not like SciFi is any better at this point...they too keep canceling everything that is good and replacing it with crappy made-for-TV horror/sci-fi-giant-snake-monkeys....etc rofl

Whoever is running all these studios needs to be replaced with someone who has a fresh outlook on TV, and stop adding all these dumb reality shows in place of the good ones.

If FoX and other networks would get a clue, they'd understand that the reason many of us don't enjoy watching their shows/networks anymore is cause of this crap we have to wade through to find the good stuff.

I'll continue to keep DLing my shows without commercials until then, and prolly from then on too.

Honestly, as much as this sucks, it's nowhere NEAR as bad as the whole airing Firefly out of order thing. And cancelling it. But that's mute at this point.

We learned yesterday taht Tahmoh Penikett is scheduled to do a pilot for another series, Riverworld I believe. I think Dollhouse is done. I don't love it, but I do watch it. I don't see a future for it. Eliza Dushku is great; I thought Tru Calling was better than Dollhouse and it got canned, took a little longer though.

Also, it's SyFy not SciFi. This way they can sneak some stuff in that's not really science fiction...

Anyways, SyFy deserves some love. They gave us Farscape and when they canned that I was angrier than hell; then they kindly gave us Battlestar and all was forgiven. I doubt Stargate Universe and Caprica will be enough to forgive Battlestar's end but they are looking like decent efforts; heck Richard Dean Anderson is even coming back for a stint...

ANY show is controlled by the money. The network objective is not to make a fantastic show, it is to make maximum money off the show. If this means less than palatable artistic decisions, the network doesn't care.

Dollhouse is not bad in my opinion. Intriguing. I have enjoyed most of the episodes.

"But that's mute at this point."

Moot, not mute.

Yeah they did the same thing with Firefly. I thought the first ep sucked bad so I didn't watch it after that and I know others that did the same thing. I watched it later on DVD and thought the entire show was great. In fact Serenity is one of my all time favorite movies. History repeated itself here with Dollhouse sucking right off basically killing the show. It has gotten better but it won't save it.

The worst case of cancellation was Tru Calling. They showed every ep except the final episode. I remember they had it scheduled but American Idol gave out a wrong phone number or something so it got pushed back a night eliminating the Tru Calling finale and Fox just abandoned it completely. How are you going to show an entire series except the series finale? That makes no sense at all.

Trebuken-at this point,it's not clear whether Punkett's character would be a regular on the series or just a guest star. There's still plenty of hope for Dollhouse and,with any luck,it will be renewed...

That's what happens when you make a show based on an idea you wrote out on a napkin at lunch. It's pretty bad. It's taking away a lot of the respect he had from Buffy and Firefly. Just stop Joss and start over with something else.

Though Fox could do a better job in giving the show support, the fact remains that Fox is a business and it needs to make money. No ratings (despite you stating you watch the show) no show.

The reason why Firefly was a flop but then got a movie deal. DVD sales. It made money. It got a second chance.

the show is clearly not joss whedon's best work. in this instance, hostility directed towards fox is not warranted. come on, people, this is not firefly! the "artist=pious, studio executives=evil" mentality of some fans is ridiculous. must everything be downgraded to perceived class distinctions? karl marx would be pleased to see his idiotic victim mentality has survived. perhaps next time whedon should turn out a better product that consumers actually want to see.

Who cares! The show sucks.

Nothing that Fox does could hurt this show---it already is the worst thing on the air. How Joss could go from something brilliant like "Firefly " to this total mess is amazing. Whoever told Dushku that she could act should be shot.

Wow. Lotta hate in posts. Hate for Fox, hate for the show. I'd think if you didn't like the show, you'd go to places where shows you liked would be talked about.

As for Fox, they truly have a problem with giving shows enough time to grow a decent fan base.

They are far too quick to cancel a series and often replace them with hastily done shows that don't measure up to the ones they scrapped.

It seems they only want a quick return on what should be long investments and rarely do they give any thought as to how popular a show they have on their hands until it is gone.

If they truly knew how popular Firefly was, they could have kept it and had a series able to compete with BSG on SciFi.

Unfortunately, even if Dollhouse and TSCC manage to get the best ratings in their time slot, the execs will probably look at every show for every day and compare the ratings without any interest for future growth or fan base.

For me, Firefly was, hands down, the best TV show produced by man. I fell in love with it with the first episode aired (The Train Job).

I've seen the first four episodes of Dollhouse (the rest are waiting on our DVR) and I think it has potential. There are a lot of underlying mysteries I'd like to see explored, but will probably never get a chance to since Fox put Dollhouse and TSCC in their patented Friday night death slots. I would have like to have seen how "Drive" played out a few years ago (man-crush on Nathan Fillion); it got, what, three airings before the Fox brain trust capped its ass?

Best new show of the season: Better of Ted on ABC. Great workplace comedy that will also probably be cut short.

Okay, I enjoy Dollhouse. It really is a one season idea though. None of the individual characters are really people you can root for or relate to. You want them to break free, but you don't really want to spend a lot of time with them after that.

It's got an interesting plot and premise, but unlike Firefly (which was cut down too soon). I think 12/13 episodes is just the right length.

I enjoy Dollhouse for what it is...A rip off of La Femme Nikita. Granted they have nicer set design and some interesting ways of getting agents to do their missions but its all the same. Nothing has changed, right down to the offices being on high so to look down on the poor agents below. I almost expect to see Operations and Madeline bantering about while looking down below scornfully on Eliza and the others. If it gets cancelled, oh well. If it doesn't I will continue to watch, until something better comes on. Its just television.

i love dollhouse best show since buffy. i never liked firefly .ihope dollhouse is renewed.

ottoscorzato wrote:

But that's mute at this point.
^^^^^
The expression is "moot," not mute. What do they teach in schools these days? Jeez.

This show is one of joss's best work ever!!!! anyone who thinks the show suck why do you even bother trying to insult it!!! get a life you slutbaggs,.

This show is one of joss's best work ever!!!! anyone who thinks the show suck why do you even bother trying to insult it!!! get a life you slutbaggs,.

This show is one of joss's best work ever!!!! anyone who thinks the show suck why do you even bother trying to insult it!!! get a life you slutbaggs,.

I agree Joss's best work since Buffy. We need another kick butt show like this!!! I really hope it lasts. I love every character and I think the premis is amazing and unique.

I really cant stand fox they bring Joss back and then they cancel it like firefly. Its the same with dushku with tru calling. Fox needs to get a grip.

This is currently the only show I'm actively watching. I absolutely love this show. While that pisses me off about the 13th episode, I really hope the show is picked up for a second season. And another thing, why in the hellmouth does Joss keep going back to Fox? They don't give him or his shows the respect he deserves.

After what they did to Firefly, I think I remember Joss saying he would never work with Fux again. Then Dollhouse came along and I think I remember him saying he had ironclad guarantees from them that it wouldn't happen again. So can we unleash the slayage on Fux now? Or at least send in Jayne Cobb for a round of mayhem? Fux is the worst place in the 'verse.