In what way did Bay mess up Transformers? He took a horrible 80's Anime with a flimsy premise and made it into a worldwide box-office smash, and in less than a week he'll do it all over again.

Um, the first movie had a president in it too, and it was obviously supposed to be Bush. What is this supposed to prove?

I didn't expect an amazing story to emerge for Transformers in live-action form, but Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman's interpretation had far less emotional weight and even excitement than the 1st season of the cartoon. And popularity is in no way a sign of not messing up. PhotoBoy wasn't saying he didn't make a lot of money, just that it was bad. And it was!

I'd hardly call Obama's phony comment a compliment. I consider Abrams a big-ass producer, but he still sucks, as does Bay.

PhotoBoy can suck it! said - "In what way did Bay mess up Transformers? He took a horrible 80's Anime with a flimsy premise and made it into a worldwide box-office smash, and in less than a week he'll do it all over again."

Let me count the ways:

1.) First of all the "horrible 80's Anime with a flimsy premise" you refer to has seen 3 generations watch it over the years. Maybe if the original animation studio had the mega budget Bay had they would have made it more to your liking. You can hardly judge by the money made in even the first week of a film, but on the fact that in 20+ years will people still be talking about the Michael Bay transformers movies. Remember that if it wasn't for your "horrible 80's Anime with a flimsy premise" that made it possible for you to go to the theater and see the Michael Bay movie. MB's movies have always been more about special effects that a substantial story. Easy to take pot-shots when you make a comparison like that, but makes your argument look weak.

2.) The original storyline is much better and more detailed than the Michael Bay movie. Sam's dad isn't an annoying character that one wishes would get stepped on as a robot walks by.

3.) The robots we grew up watching don't really get seen that much and then they're dead in a Michael Bay movie. (Yeah, I liked Jazz.)

4.) ExplosionExplosionExplosion . ScorpionRobot (Who was that anyways??) Firefight!!! vs A real story that makes an imagination grow and forces it to develop. It doesn't have to be a story of something that can happen in real life, but something that engages your mind and ends up being like reading a good book. The Bay movie is like reading a comic book with every third page missing. His camera work in the first film made it hard to follow the action (much like the barfight scene from the new star trek movie).

I agree with Muldfeld about the POTUS compliment. That's like having John Kerry tell you "you're special".

No Fair...BUT If I was President I wouldn't mind playing myself in movies....so I'm not going to hate..or go on some political rant cool for O

Simple minds, simple pleasures.

When Bay said he directed The Rock and Armageddon, Obama should have had the secret service toss him in a federal supermax prison.

Kinda disappointing that Bay likes Obama, but that's just my political bias

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is more flash than story...period. Why? Because ALL MBay films are more flash than story. Look if you like loud explosions and cheesy dialogue, your gonna love Transformers:ROF. If you actually like a movie making sense as you watch it...your not. It's that simple.

Not saying it didn't happen, but there's something fishy here about the Obama and Bay side by side thing unless it happened over two years ago. Obama's had Secret Service protection (and the code name "Renegade") since before he won the Democratic nomination, I think it might've been even shortly after launching his campaign in Illinois. Secret Service does that for candidates facing credible threats.

Maybe Bay is trying to avoid alienating the Justo market by concealing that this meeting ocurred at one of those "Hollywood fundraisers."

Wow, no bias here with Mr. Bay. Looks like the book "a slobbering love affair" is coming to life.....

hey everybody, lets comb the internet for any story on something or someone we dont like, and then proceed to crap on everything they've ever done or said! Good Times!!!

I always enjoy how many people always complain that somehow there's supposed to be something more than just giant transforming robots and explosions to a Transformers story.

I don't care which cartoon series or which comic you've read in the past that was so great (since every episode is generic, and every issue is poorly written and not particularily well-drawn). When it comes down to it, Transformers only needs one thing to be good: Optimus Prime in one corner, Megatron in the other.

The first movie had that, this movie will have even more of it. Mission accomplished.

Well, did the negotiations with the Decepticons work or did just plain kicking their butts do the trick? If the "Community Organizer in Chief" was the "Role Model" for this movie, we are doomed, not from outer space, but from our own people and elements of our own Foreign Policy. Or lack there of.

Well, did the negotiations with the Decepticons work or did just plain kicking their butts do the trick? If the "Community Organizer in Chief" was the "Role Model" for this movie, we are doomed, not from outer space, but from our own people and elements of our own Foreign Policy. Or lack there of.

Uhm......in what way was Obama's reference in the move FLATTERING or an indication that he was the man for the job? As I recall from watching the movie (two days ago) he told his National Security Adviser, Galloway, to shut down the Autobots, and the MILITARY had to do what it did WITHOUT the President or Galloway's CONSENT! The short message was that Barry was willing to sell OUT our allies, to negotiate with our enemies......sounds like real life!

The difference between the first and second movies are obvious. In the first one, Bush is not mentioned by name; in the second one, Obama is. Bay was not putting Obama in a favorable light by saying he'd prefer Obama in office if Decepticons attacked. What he's saying is that Obama would not recognize pure evil, as he does not with Iran, North Korea, Syria, etc., and would try to negotiate a diplomatic solution a la Neville Chamberlain, while at the same time drawing some moral skew (not even moral equivalence) by somehow blaming the Autobots for bring this on the earth (like blaming Israel instead of the Palestinians). He wouldn't realize that they'd kill us all anyway, just like Islamofascists intend to do. Sam learned the hard way that isolationism, "this isn't my war", doesn't provide you immunity from evil Decepticons, Pearl Harbor, or 9/11. Bay also showed the military's disdain for Obama, which I personally share, mostly because he keeps throwing us under the bus. Oh, and let's not forget that Optimus used the expression "Let's Roll", a Bushism and a battle cry for victory, not appeasement, apology, and retreat. Any questions?

Did you even watch the movie? Michael Bay in no way made it look like he wanted Obama in office if we ever have to battle giant robots bent on the destruction of the Earth. If anything he did the opposite because the president’s man he appointed was utterly incompetent, and the military had to basically go around the naïve poor leadership that the president was giving. In the movie the military got the job done in spite of Obama not because of him. Similar to real life.