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Why Bryan Fuller thinks Heroes is back, and what about Star Trek?

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Bryan Fuller believes there's going to be "a new spirit" in the fourth season on NBC's sci-fi series Heroes when it comes to "Volume Five: Redemption." "Everybody has gotten really invested in the show, and we're going back to the basics of the characters," Fuller told SCI FI Wire in an exclusive interview. (Spoilers ahead!)

The season-three finale left Nathan Petrelli (Adrian Pasdar) dead and the shape-shifting Sylar (Zachary Quinto) believing he was Nathan. The final moments of the finale finished with the opening of "Volume Five: Redemption," which hinted that the Sylar/Nathan situation might offer some challenges in the future for our heroes.

"That's going to prove really interesting for a lot of the characters," Fuller said. "I'm just excited about getting back to the basics and getting back to the real world and seeing what it's like for HRG [Jack Coleman] to try to re-create a company when every version of it has failed in the past. And not only doing that, but going through a divorce and trying to hold his family together. And for every plot conceit that we have for a character, we have even more conceits for what's going on in their personal lives that makes their plot story so much more complicated, because their emotional, personal story is so intrinsically tied with what's happening with them. I like the balance of the personal lives that we're telling this season."

The cast will return, including Pasdar and Quinto. "We love the cast. That's the thing. ... We just sort of have to find better uses for them," Fuller said. They will also be adding some new characters who will be introduced later in the season.

Fuller wrote and co-executive-produced Heroes in its first year, and then left to work on his own creation, ABC's Pushing Daisies. When that show was canceled last season, he returned to Heroes as a writer and consulting producer.

He believes every volume of the superhero series "has been valid, and every one has been a slightly different style, which I think is interesting. I love how the show is continuing to grow. It is evolving, and I do think there is a lot of good stuff in 'Fugitives' and 'Redemption,'" Fuller said.

In "Fugitives," "we saw the characters in situations we hadn't seen them in before and got to find out interesting things about those characters," Fuller added. "So what I'm excited about with season four is getting everybody back to the basic principle of ordinary people in an extraordinary world and how these characters are relatable to us and what we would do if we were in their situations, and really grounding it in that conceit."

This fall Heroes moves to Mondays at 8 p.m. ET/PT. While the number of total episodes ordered for Heroes has changed, it looks like NBC has settled on 19 episodes, which will run consecutively with the season ending just before the Winter Olympics in February. After the Olympics in March, NBC's Chuck will take over the Monday-night timeslot.

For most writer/producers, working on one television series would be enough. But the busy Fuller can't help himself. Beyond digging into season four of Heroes, he's creating a comic-book series for his canceled ABC series, Pushing Daisies, and dreaming about how much he'd like to be a part of doing a new Star Trek series. "Oh, my God, I would love to do a Star Trek series! I would love it," he said.

"I think Star Trek, since it did so well in the theaters and the movie's wonderful, I think that a Star Trek TV series is probably a couple years away, just to let the feature franchise breathe," Fuller added.

While Fuller is happily committed to Heroes, he does hope things might work out just right if and when Star Trek returns in some form to the small screen. "I'm hoping that by the time they're ready to do a television series that I am available and can participate, because, I mean, even if it's J.J. Abrams' team, I would love to join that team for a new Star Trek series. I think it would be a ball," Fuller said.

And what would a new Star Trek series look like? "I love the aesthetics of the new movie," Fuller said. "I think it has to be set in that world, ... but I think it has to be a different ship than the Enterprise. I think the Enterprise has to be sailing on the silver screen, and I think we need a new ship with a new crew and an entirely new adventure that is in the timeline and the aesthetic of the movie, but it's telling a different story."

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By jfarley at 8:09 AM ON 06/12/09

I agree with Fuller about Heroes... and to his comments about a new Star Trek series, it's pretty obvious that this would be the perfect time for a land based series called Star Trek Academy. You have plenty of opportunities for guest shots from the movie cast as well as space adventures or training missions etc. Let's spend more time on the Earth that spawned the great Federation etc. Pick a young cast and you have a mix of young adult love/angst interaction along with the sci-fi. Kind of like, I dunno... Smallville?

By Simon124 at 8:15 AM ON 06/12/09

Star Trek Academy? 'Smallville' in space? My God, as if this franchise hasn't been raped enough already!
The depressing thing is that's probably exactly what's going to happen, Star Trek is truly over

By wdwyer at 8:33 AM ON 06/12/09

OMG! ENOUGH with the prequal stuff with Star Trek! What is wrong with these people! The series was on it's decline after VOY, it truely died the moment they decided to do prequals and toss continuity out the window with ENT. For years Hollywood has been dying to get it's hands on ST and do a remake. Why? So they can make up their continuity and have to worry about it. That is what this new ST movie is. Hollywood's attempt to remake a franchise, and alienate the current fans. By the way Fullmer, a new crew? No Enterprise? They did that already, it was called VOY and it died a horrible death! Keep your hands off a beloved Franchise!

By User45701 at 8:45 AM ON 06/12/09

i think he would do a good star trek but setting it in the same timeline as jj trek is just silly.

Do trek based in the late 2300's

and it does not have to be on a federation ship either. spice it up a bit - proffit is over rated.

7 seasons of TNG, DS9 , VOY proved there is a fan base that will keep a show going even without the "mass appeal" to non star trek fans that jj trek has - sure they can make allot of money with a summer blockbuster but the non star trek fans who liked the movie would be unlikly to comite to watching 7 seasons of it and the star trek comunity would be unhappy watching 7 years of that - even if brian is a writer

By Thermopyle at 9:22 AM ON 06/12/09

Captain Sulu of the starship Excelsior!

By pncarter at 9:30 AM ON 06/12/09

I would like to see a Klingon centered series. I think that would be something different.

By tigger16 at 9:45 AM ON 06/12/09

Wow, lighten up people. This is entertainment, not a life-changing event. If you don't like something, don't watch it. If you are loyal only to TOS, fine, Stay with that and ignore the rest. Personally, I would like to see something along the lines of "Tales of Starfleet", an anthology series with no "permanent" characters. It could have stories from all over the Star Trek universe, including other worlds (i.e., a story set on the Klingon homeworld). Maybe even some past stories (development of Starfleet and the Federation, etc.) It should be based on established canon, but I would give the re-iagined universe a look.

By Lukioptyx at 9:45 AM ON 06/12/09

In my opinion, Star Trek died with Next Generation. DS9 and Voyager were boring with relatively uninteresting characters. I just couldn't get into them. Yes, Enterprise broke continuity but at least it was interesting and had interesting characters.

Technically, continuity was maintained by creating an alternate time line. And I'm not sure it was "Hollywood" that really wanted to do it. Things have changed since the 60's and westerns are no longer the primary vehicle of action and drama. Characters need more depth, there has to be more action for audiences today, and yes in a lot of cases there is a dumbing down of things. Personally I didn't see any dumbing down I saw an enrichment.
And now, my son is a huge Star Trek fan, even pressing to purchase parts of the older series and movies. He won't only get into the new but he will experience everything before. For that, I am excited. The movie succeeded, it gained interest in the franchise.

By landshark1215 at 9:48 AM ON 06/12/09

They should make the New Frontier series of books by Peter David into a show. It has a lot of the same spirit of TOS, but with the more serious tone of TNG and the gritty feel of DS9

By MetalMan at 10:13 AM ON 06/12/09

You know one tv show creator that wasn't worried about continuity? Gene Rodenberry. I agree 100% with Lukioptyx.

By Jamal D B at 10:28 AM ON 06/12/09


Really, that's his intro? Wow, did he actually watch the last season of Heroes? Wow, okay then. I've never seen a more bipolar show than I saw with last season's Heroes. It was as bad as Smallville season 8, and I love smallville, good seasons or God Awful ones.

My biggest beef has to do with Arthur Petrelli, he had all the makings of the ultimate evil but they reduced him to Betty Boop, good going morons. Let's hope this dude has more sense, O yeah, give peter back his freakin powers already, the real reason they limited him is because they Can't write capable stories for awesome characters, losers.

By abfalter at 10:31 AM ON 06/12/09


That new series should be the further adventures of Captain Pike. He nailed the role of 'starship captain' perfectly. I would LOVE to see him on a new ship with a new crew.

By miles316 at 10:42 AM ON 06/12/09

Do a Klingon series based on the Klingon Honor guard game I loved that game.

By malificent2000 at 11:29 AM ON 06/12/09

Why not base it on the Mirror Universe... TOS episode was interesting, and even when the story line continued with DS9, it was pretty cool!

By jade at 11:41 AM ON 06/12/09

simon 124
i do actually think that trekies would hunt him down and kill him horribly. i would be gastly like that show.

By Nausicaa'sLover at 12:19 PM ON 06/12/09

@ tigger16... I think an anthology Trek series would be awesome!

Also, I've always wanted to see "Star trek: The Eugenics Wars" as this would be the TRUE prequel to the entire Trek universe (we could see Khan try and take over earth in WWIII only to eventually escape into deep space.....)

I also wouldn't mind seeing a show about the Enterprise F, G, or H! Something that takes place FAR into the distant future when technology is so advanced that things look and feel very different from what we know Trek to be.... that would be pretty interesting (we had a glimpse of this in the "Enterprise" episode where Archer was plucked out of his time and brought 400 years into the future)

But ultimately I truly wish that they go back to what Trek is supposed to be..... SPACE EXPLORATION! I've had enough of diplomatic missions, temporal anomalies, space opera, and space SOAP opera! I want to see truly exotic "STRANGE new worlds", not another relatively mundane alien world, or another human outpost, or another run-in with Klingons, etc. We should get something resembling what we got glimpse of in the Animated Series (the ONLY Trek series to date that has really created some truly abstract alien worlds!) I hope they're smart enough to do this with the inevitable sequel to the new movie (not just create another villain who wants to destroy earth.... how many times are we going to get that?!!)

Also, as far as the new movie goes I really hope that the sequel to the starts where the first left off-- right at the beginning of Kirk's five year mission (and NOT set the story on EARTH yet again! Wouldn't it be cool if each succeeding movie of the new franchise actually followed the same structure of the TV series' and had each episode start off in space as the "next" adventure in their five year mission? This is where I think ALL of the movies had there greatest flaw. I mean really, what kind of 'trek' is it when every single time your "starting over" from earth again!!!!)

Either way, I love Star Trek no matter what.

By Pauul at 12:24 PM ON 06/12/09

It's great they love their cast members on Heroes but maybe that's also a problem. There's no risk anymore. In Season 3 of Lost we were still losing major characters like Charlie, in Season 3 of Heroes they just intoduced new characters as cannon fodder. And even if they do kill off a main character it feels like a cheat because they find someway to keep them on the series. The occassional guest appearance would be cool (like how Boone, Shannon and Charlie have appeared in flashbacks since their deaths on Lost) but no way should they remain regulars.

In Season 1 anything could happen. Simone could be shot or Isaac could get his head ripped open. Watching it you actually beleived that Sylar could get Claire - and she wouldn't survive! Now it all feels so safe.

Absolutely not. Totally disagree about the Star Trek series idea. The new continuity was invented for the movie and to set a series within it would only tarnish the movie series. Now, a tv series set in the original continuity I would enjoy watching.

By Madison at 1:16 PM ON 06/12/09

Oh god yes, it is time to stop with the Star Trek prequels and alternate timeline remakes and just take the f***ing thing into the future. Seeing the galaxy a century after TNG would be very interesting. I simply didn't care for the Trek 90210 film.

By Ado at 1:20 PM ON 06/12/09

Yes, I agree with Madison. Star Trek is supposed to be about the future, so why are they continually going back to the past with shows like Enterprise and the new Trek film. It's lazy and unimaginative.

By oneeye at 1:27 PM ON 06/12/09

DS 9 season 6 and 7 were the just about the best trek ever with dominion wars and characters making borderline ethical desisions. The new timeline is confusing but the movie was ok.

By Lili at 1:53 PM ON 06/12/09

I hope they will not be stupid enough to start another Star Trek series with completely new ship and crew. Sorry, but that does not work. This new movie has nailed it and made it obvious, again, how powerful the chemistry of TOS characters had been (and still is).

Now that I'm hooked, don't try bait and switch on me! I'm not watching anything without Zachary Quinto, Chris Pine and the rest of them.

By scoob958 at 2:29 PM ON 06/12/09

A Ferengi sitcom starring Rom, Nog, and Quark on Ferenginar.

By Arend at 3:05 PM ON 06/12/09

I would love to see a follow-up of de last film,like a remake of TOS as the latest film already is the first part.

By Randy at 3:06 PM ON 06/12/09

Oh Jeezzzz....Heroes is so OVER. And now that it's going to be in the same time slot as Big Bang Theory, well, that's a total no-brainer.

By Kyle Maloney at 3:15 PM ON 06/12/09

Brian was clearly sugar coating his thoughts on the past seasons, we know this from this last interview were he basically vented about how bad it had gotten. even in volume 4 when things started to go back to the basics as he wanted, things went back downhill again near the end of it. but its not as if he can fix everything in one clean swipe, he only wrote a few eps last season, and he was only working with what the other writers had left over.

This time he'll have the advantage of starting fresh, working with the other writers from the get go. I'm hopeful that because of that, it'll be a great season.

My only fear at the moment is the whole making Claire gay thing, which makes no sense at all given what we know about this character. hoping its just a stupid rumor though.

By Ron at 3:15 PM ON 06/12/09

blah, fool us once, twice, even a third time, but, i cant go along for the 4th time. we've heard it all before, heroes suck, I will not be watching it this year

By C.R. at 4:08 PM ON 06/12/09

I'm sorry. Someone said "VOY died a horrible death." Since when did 7 seasons constitute a horrible death? How many other shows would have given their left leg for a seven-season horrible death? As far as this story goes with the new "Star Trek" TV series, I'll believe it when I see it happen. I've enjoyed all the series in their own unique way (except the first two seasons of Enterprise). So, I'm sure whenever this "new" series comes out on TV, I'll watch it anyway.

By scifi at 4:51 PM ON 06/12/09

They should make a aminated movie based on the three-part Star Trek novels " Destiny" by David Mack.

By Russell22 at 5:09 PM ON 06/12/09

As a star trek fan of some 25 yrs they really need to leave another series alone for a few more years yet. I knew studios/writers would start chomping at the bit to get another show on the air given the success of the movie (which was good but overated in my opinion) but didnt anyone learn anything from Voyager/Enterprise!. It's still way too early to launch another show..lets leave it another 5 years at least. At least a relaunch won't have Rick berman as producer who ran the whole franchise into the ground with too many shows and movies all at once,so at least it might be good if people like Fuller get involved with it but id still let it lie or a bit.

By mattcoz at 5:10 PM ON 06/12/09

"By the way Fuller, a new crew? No Enterprise? They did that already, it was called VOY and it died a horrible death! Keep your hands off a beloved Franchise!"

He was a writer on Voyager, and co-produced the last season.

At this point, you aren't going to get the cast of the movie to do the show, so how are you going to do a show with the Enterprise in that era? Another ship, or some other setting, would be the only option.

By _Maltheus_ at 5:34 PM ON 06/12/09

I love everything Fuller does, but I'd rather he (and especially Abrams) stay away from Star Trek. If they must do it, then I agree, enough with the prequel crap. Do something 1000 years beyond what we've seen. But ideally, I'd rather he just do an entirely new type of show.

I couldn't stand the movie though, so hopefully Abrams will have as little to do with any potential series as he has to do with Lost. We are in this strange age where (non-reality) TV shows are becoming smarter and movies have been dumbed down to the level of crack headed retards. Abrams caters to the later crowd and Fuller the former.

By mattcoz at 6:16 PM ON 06/12/09

"Do something 1000 years beyond what we've seen."

So like the Temporal Cold War era? Time Trek? :p

"We are in this strange age where (non-reality) TV shows are becoming smarter and movies have been dumbed down to the level of crack headed retards. Abrams caters to the later crowd and Fuller the former."

Amen, Fuller's shows are always fantastic, but they never succeed because his target audience is people with fully developed brains. He hasn't had a chance to develop his own version of Star Trek though, always writing for existing series, and that's something I'd like to see.

By ovano at 6:33 PM ON 06/12/09

Star trek elite force the series...yu know it makes sense...

By Deadpoet at 6:59 PM ON 06/12/09

For my bit of input i would like to see Manny Coto back as i thought the fourth season of enterprise was the best and it had some balls. I also think a series around section 31 would be a great one. My recipe would be section 31, Klingons, Gem Hadar, Romulans lots of intrigue around the secret sections of each of the races all trying to out wit each other.

By Hellking at 7:14 PM ON 06/12/09

Kill the cheerleader, save the series. She's horribly written and acted making her a detriment to the series.

By Sithboy at 9:00 PM ON 06/12/09

I always thought Starfleet Medical would be a good show, let McFadden lead it

By Scott at 11:17 PM ON 06/12/09

I agree with Madison,Pauul and Sithboy- the new continuity should stay in the movies and any future Trek TV stuff should tak eplace in the original continuity. Starfleet Medical would be a fine idea and a very different way to approach the Trek universe

By Darwinsfolly at 4:06 AM ON 06/13/09

How about from the Vulcan point of view in the new time line but after TOS before TNG how they're more an endangered species and even nomads. You could have them searching for pockets of Vulcan's through out the galaxy coming across the strange new worlds & civilizations again

By Uwaine at 6:06 AM ON 06/13/09

Yes, the new Star Trek has destroyed everything that is Trek and driven away all the fans...

Perhaps that is why the New Trek movie is the current highest grossing movie of 2009 AND the highest grossing Trek movie ever...
Yes, they really alienated everyone. All these complainers are only going to see the movie 8 or 10 times instead of 100.

By kingoftheicedragons at 7:11 AM ON 06/13/09

I read through the thoughts related to Star Trek, and I found some good ideas. And really, only one really bad one. But that's part of the problem with Star Trek. Everyone has their idea of what they would like to see in the Star Trek universe. Because of this, any Star Trek series has its built in detractors simply because it's an idea other than what some people want to see. People want Star Trek to be their own personal version of Star Trek, so they are dead set against something that may be creative and good simply because it's not what they want to see. And then, if it is the idea they want to see, they will inevitably start to criticize it for "going astray" or "being mishandled."

As for putting the franchise in the future, that would be likely be laughed at. Why? I mean, it's not a bad idea. Personally, I'm partial to the TNG-DS9-Voyager era and would love to see that era continued to be explored. The problem, however, is that the technology of that era is almost on par with what we have now. What, other than the ability to build huge space ships and travel at warp speed, almost no technological advances are made in the next 300 years?

As for Fuller, keep in mind he's already had his hand in Star Trek in the past. It was mainly VOY--a ship not set on the Enterprise, so he must not like that ship for some reason. If you want another show like Voyager (which wasn't bad, but my least favorite of all the series by far), get him involved in a new Trek series.

By Captain April at 9:14 AM ON 06/13/09

What strange take on Voyager(Died a horrible death) a full seven year run(longer than most network shows), a beginning middle and end. Sure it may not have been every ones cup of tea but there were some really great Star Trek stories on that show plus it had Seven of Nine!

By fan123 at 11:23 AM ON 06/13/09

TOS - Could never realy apreciate it (I was born in 77)
TOS Movies - How I got to know ST.
TNG - Ouch, ST every week :)
VOY - Fun and Fresh.
DS9 - Dark trek
ENT - Good but in my opinion they tried to strech it as far as they could... wrong way to go... too many stories to tell, they did not need to strech it with boring ones...

the new movie in my opinion was the very needed "wash your face" that had to happen.

I cant wait for more movies and a new tv series based on this new universe.

Note: I like the guy but Shattner is a part of trek, NOT TREK.

By TMR013 at 11:35 AM ON 06/13/09

Why is everyone ragging on the original ST (DS9, Voyager, Enterprise) come on there was some good stories there, even Enterprise (the mirror universe stories were awesome, some of the best Trek ever done). The fact of the matter is these stories were just to slow for the current generation that expects a CGI effect every 10 seconds and has the attention span of a fruit fly. JJ has already screwed up Trek, it's never going back to being really good.

By webdiva at 11:46 AM ON 06/13/09

Heroes OD'd on finding the dark side of all the characters we'd come to love; that lost a good part of the audience right there. And **PLEASE** don't look to Lost for clues about making a scfi-fi series work -- a) Lost is not sci-fi, it's inane fantasy with a conspiracy twist, and b) Lost is just stupid and preposterous, which is why so many of us don't bother with it and never did after the first two episodes. Sheesh! Get a clue here.

As for Star Trek ... DS9 only began to work once Worf appeared and the Dominion war came into full view. That's because Worf was already a well-drawn character of interest, and the DS9 scriptwriters weren't imaginative enough to give that crew anything good to deal with other than a galvanizing war. In Voyager, only the captain, the doctor, the half-Klingon, and the ex-Borg had compelling enough characters to make the show watchable, although the writers did try harder with that crew than they did with Archer's crew -- on that ship, only Archer and the Vulcan were of interest, with occasional flickers from the alien doctor. The rest of the crew were simply awful -- both the weakly drawn, insipid characters themselves and the actors as well. It's af if after TNG, the crews got successively worse and worse until with Enterprise, they became outright irksome to watch and nearly irrelevant to the storylines. I feel bad for Scott Bakula being stuck in that muddle. the writers and casting directors are to blame for that mess.

And FORGET about turning Star Trek into comic books or animated series -- that's just insult on top of injury!! Write for *adult* viewers, and stop thinking we're all morons!

Future Star Trek series?? As usual, the fanboys are ALL wrong. For one thing, y'all have no clue as to what might make a sci-fi series worth producing for TV: namely, an audience that has a way bigger demographic than fanboys. That's why Battlestar Galactica as reinvented recently did so well -- a good part of its audience was female, and of a broad age range, I might add. It wasn't just the fanboys' girlfriends (not that most of them have any) who were watching.

Yes, you must be careful not to ruin the Star Trek franchise, especially as it's just had a useful, if safe, jolt of life pumped into it by the movie. But yes, the best part of the series was always the part about looking into the future -- so do that. Leaves the existing timeline intact, forces creativity. An anthology series would work for a limited run, but it too would have to be in a later part of the timeline, at least slightly past Picard and crew. Given Archer's time-traveling visitor, you do have one useful possibility for a future setting, but it needn't be the only possibility and I wouldn't even refer to it for the anthology series.

At least 100 years after Picard provides a decent starting point for a future Federation, and you'd really have to move past aliens who are all four-limbed humanoids. Again, more imagination needed, not less. And examining the problems of future technology and ethics, diplomacy, clashing cultures, etc., just as TNG did, is a good principle to stick to for plot ideas. Just remember Asimov's rule: there needs to be some legitimate scientific idea, principle, or theory involved at the heart of the plot, or it's just more fantasy and space opera, which makes it no different than the rest of the crap that tries to pass as sci-fi. Good drama that is also good sci-fi is eminently possible, as Galactica proved. It ain't all fights and explosions.

Last, be *at least* as intelligent as the remade Battlestar Galactica was about using female characters and decent actors. You get what you pay for, dudes.

Oh, and BTW: Bryan Fuller should keep his mitts the hell OFF the Star Trek franchise until he's had at least two consecutive seasons of successfully reinstating Heroes to its first-season glory. He has enough of a mess to fix without diluting his attention the way he did when he left.

Next!

By Screenwriter72 at 10:18 PM ON 06/13/09

Bryan Fuller is thinking what I'm thinking, the only way to do a NEW Trek TV Series is to have a new ship, new crew, in the timeframe of Trek XI the film! It would be cool to have guest star parts for any of the Trek XI actors! I can wait 5 more years for such a Series! I would LOVE to write a teleplay for it as well since I have been writing since I was 10 and I been a Trek Fan since I was 6 back in 1978!!! :D

Markus McLaughlin
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Hudson, MA, USA

By Jwb52z at 2:40 AM ON 06/14/09

The only way I will ever watch any new Star Trek from now on is if they undo what they did in the latest movie completely and reset things to the proper timeline. You don't go and wreck 40 years of Star Trek history for the sake of new fans. You just don't. You also don't get to keep me a fan after you go and write a script that allows for the destruction of Vulcan along with making it impossible for the last 40 years of Trek history to never have ahppened now.

By dadrees at 8:02 AM ON 06/14/09

Please, no teen hormones and Star Trek didn't we get enough of Wesley Crusher.
The kid was always the weak link in TNG.
I would prefer to see Enterprise revived or something with the new movie ideas
No 90210 Star Trek!!!

By He's Too Fuller Himself at 4:26 PM ON 06/14/09

Brian Fuller should never be allowed ANYWHERE near Star Trek again. Voyager was a truly horrible show, with terrible writing, terrible acting and terrible characters. And Heroes has degenerated over the past two years into an incoherent and inconsistent flip-floppy mess. Pushing Daisies may be a good show, but Fuller's track record is otherwise TERRIBLE. Don't let this guy back in the Star Trek universe.

By democratsarefascists at 3:56 AM ON 06/15/09

We have to face the reality that the New Trek has been done and is here to stay, at least for a while. It was probably inevitable. The truth is that Hollywood is pandering to this Obama generation, and that generation can only handle Star Trek Lite and its superficial resemblance to actual Star Trek. I'm not saying the movie was bad, it's just representative. The modern audience is shallow and has the attention span of a gnat. Therefore, characters will be comic book-shallow as well and a TV version would suffer as a result. Whereas TOS ran closer to an hour, even with ads, STTNG began with less but still managed to have characterizations that endeared an audience. We're now at a place where "an hour-long drama" has about 35 minutes of actual story, if that. If you're going to start with new characters, you would be well into the second season before anyone cared about them. Frankly, with the level of writing we can expect from Hollywood, I seriously doubt that would ever materialize in time to avoid cancellation.

By antodav at 12:23 PM ON 06/15/09

A lot of the ideas I've seen proposed here are interesting, but not many of them are practical. I had the idea of an anthology series myself, but truthfully, having a new cast and a new ship every week on a show that was set in outer space would be prohibitively expensive and probably not something Paramount would seriously consider.

In order for the new show to work, it probably would have to be set in the new timeline. 90% of the new fans garnered to the series by the new movie will be expecting a series that is set in a universe that resembles the one created by the film to at least some degree. Personally I loved the movie, and I am someone who as recently as 6 months ago was saying I would not see it for all the reasons the hardcore Trekkie's have listed; I couldn't have been more wrong. Yes there are continuity problems, but I'm willing to ignore them if it means having good Trek back again—and that's exactly what it is.

That being said, Star Trek does need to move forward, and another series set around the time of the original would probably be very confusing, to old fans at least. I do miss the 24th Century and I'd like to see a series set in that time frame—preferably only a decade at the most after Voyager, so characters from the TNG era might still be able to show up and unfinished storylines could still be referenced. In fact I've spent most of the last decade developing my own Star Trek series that basically picks up where Voyager left off, and which explores the politics, culture, and geography of the Star Trek universe to a greater degree than previous series have. But of course nothing that I or any other fan creates is relevant to the producers unless I got representation and established myself first, which is not something I probably will do anytime soon.

At any rate, when a new Trek series is on the air, I will watch it. But I do think they should hold off for quite some time before creating one. Let Trek remain a movie series until the movies run out of steam again. Then they can develop another TV show, perhaps set in the late 24th Century but in the new timeline—after all, whose to say that TNG, Voyager, DS9 don't all still happen the way we remember them, albeit without the existence of the planet Vulcan (which actually doesn't play much of a role in any of the series other than the original and Enterprise)?

And even in the original timeline, there's an eight year period between 2379 (Nemesis) and 2387 (when Spock went back in time in the new movie) that would be perfect for a series, one which could lead into the new timeline while still being technically a part of the old. If the producers want a new series, they can create one. They just have to be creative.

BTW @democratsarefascists while I agree with your politics, perhaps you shouldn't paint everyone who liked the movie with such a broad brush. Maybe the movie doesn't delve as deeply into the philosophical/political themes that Star Trek had dealt with historically, but that's a big part of why it was so successful, I think. Less brainy, more action—that's what they needed, for starters. Maybe the next film will be more intelligent; we'll see. Besides which, do you really want Star Trek to go back to the way it was in the TOS/TNG days, ramming radical left-wing dogma down your throat? I don't think so.

By Vogon at 11:57 AM ON 06/16/09

It's time for a Star Trek comedy
set at Star Fleet labs.

By Son of a Maui Portagee at 2:39 PM ON 06/17/09

Vogon,

Bill Nye the Star Fleet Guy? But I thought Nye was the Stargate Guy?

By Matt54321 at 1:26 PM ON 06/23/09

I'd like to see a far darker new series of ST...I'm thinking the kind of series that Voyager should have been, with lots of conflict, a crew struggling to survive on a single ship, the kind of show where there isn't always a solution, perhaps set in a war that the Federation is badly losing. Like DS9, but taken on a whole lot further. DS9 still had humour, optimism, you still always felt there would be a positive outcome...even when the Dominion had taken over DS9.


I don't think ST has ever had any true darkness, it's always been hidden behind the sci-fi aspects, like a weird alien face, interstellar battles, etc. It's not like they have to cut down on the sci-fi elemnts, that would be ridiculous, but yeah...as I said. it's not like the ST world is a world beyond the horrible atrocities commited regularly in real life.

you may argue that ST was always a way of escaping, a more optimistic way of looking at the world, but perhaps it's time for a change?

By DonDonP1 at 10:08 PM ON 07/19/09

Fascinating. But with all respect to Bryan Fuller, a future TV incarnation of "Star Trek" should set in a prime timeline--whether pre-TOS or post-Nemesis--and be made as either an hour-long, adult-oriented, live-action series--whether it would air on CBS, the CW or in first-run syndication--or a half-hour, kid-friendly animated series made for the CW4Kids.

By Eikinkloster at 5:37 AM ON 11/17/09

People keep pushing back Star Trek because the Next Generation era made it very hard to think of something yet in the future. The phasers look like shaving machines and can vaporize whatever. Hundreds of rubber faced aliens already established.

Star Trek Enterprise had a very good concept. It was badly developed, but still.

It's very hard to have an interesting show about space exploration nowadays because the idea has been used ad nausea. We have two Stargate series, a third beginning now that is every bit Star Trek as it is possible (they are even based on a massive capital ship), we had Lost in Space, Crusader, Firefly, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica. What is left?

Last time I saw a truly alien world on TV was about 15 years ago on Aeon Flux. And the alien world was Earth itself. Apparently. Well, who knows. And they managed to screw it completely on the movie. Now imagine Peter Chung in charge of a new Star Trek. Claudia Black as Aeon Flux. Someone as Trevor Goodchild, in charge of the ship. Truly alien worlds. Not many worlds. Just very alien. Alien behaviors. Alien attitudes. Something kafkaesque. Throw in some A Clockwork Orange. Some Blackhawk Dawn type of action. Have bullet based weapons live side by side with energy based weapons like in Fallout 3. Damn, have some survivalism like Fallout 3 in it. Have the ship run out of supplies and get the crew stuck in a post apocalyptical world for a whole season. Throw in some Starflight, the 80's game in. Some Star Control II. Some Andrei Tarkovsky (Solaris, Stalker). Not as a plot device to be used up and sanitized in one episode, but as a recurrent weirdness. After all, it's space. We expect things to be strange and beyond our understanding. Drop the omnipotent Qs. That was really pathetic. Drop in some true demons, like Hellraiser demons. In Warhammer 40k whenever you warp you risk meeting with demons, Event Horizon style. Give in some nods to Starcraft. The original Starcraft, with the mysterious cut scenes.

Pimp the Vulcans. Use the Eldar from Warhammer 40K as a blueprint. They can be killed, but they take a dozen humans for each one that falls. Have them make Matrix like stunts. Run on walls. Bullet time. Make them a dying race, like the Vulcans from the new timeline, but make them really fierce. Make the Romulans like the Dark Eldar. Really twisted.

Use some Dune by Brian de Palma on it too. The grittiness. The urgence. The mystery.

Too bad I only have a feel for atmosphere, no feel for plot, so no suggestions there.


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