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Why Stargate Universe is no Voyager/BSG mashup
After more than a decade of Stargate series established lengthy backstories for both the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies, where does a new entrant in the franchise take the story? How about the vast frontier of the universe?
That's the approach the creators of Syfy's upcoming Stargate Universe have taken. The new show centers on the adventures of a group of military personnel and civilians who gate inadvertently to the Ancient starship Destiny during an attack. They find themselves stranded and must explore the Destiny to find a way home as it soars through the uncharted reaches of space.
"The universe is a bigger place," series co-creator Robert C. Cooper said in a group interview last week at Comic-Con in San Diego. "In order to not be restricted by the mythologies that have been established within each individual galaxy, the Milky Way and Pegasus, we took this show out into the universe, into the frontier of places we have never been to. Because we're constantly going forward, we can tell a story that's new every week. It doesn't have to be 'What are the Wraith doing this week? What are the Goa'uld doing this week? What is this character up to?' When we drop out of FTL [faster-than-light mode], who knows where we are? Who knows who we're going to meet? Just because we've encountered these aliens this week doesn't mean we're going to see them three episodes later."
SGU promises a grittier, more serious take than previous Stargate series. Even the editing demonstrates a new approach, Cooper said. "We had to catch ourselves from falling back into certain things in terms of the writing, just for example how we would end a scene," he said. "Instead of imagining we would push in on a character's concerned expression, we just go hard out."
From a story standpoint, pre-commercial cliffhangers will be more character-centered in SGU, as opposed to action beats, added co-creator Brad Wright. "In the old days, it would always be around a particular plot event," Wright said. "In this case, it's about something that's happened to a character that's making you go, 'Oh, my God, I have to see what happens to them,' not 'I have to see what happens in the story.'"
Wright acknowledged that some fans want to keep Stargate the way they like it. He added that part of the new approach is based on new technology that allows them to take a more handheld, verite approach that was not possible in earlier incarnations.
"When SG-1 started, we could not have even thought of doing this style," Wright said. "The cameras that we're using that enable our camera operators to move around this way are HD cameras. The lighting style that we're approaching is not something that our [directors of photography] or any DP would even have tried 12, 13 years ago. We couldn't have done the visual effects the way we do now 10 years ago. You used to have to lock off the camera,and there's your visual-ffects shot. The way we have a constantly moving camera incorporating visual effects at the same time is a new advent to film."
Cooper and Wright are also aware that some fans are comparing the SGU "lost in space" premise to Star Trek Voyager, in which a Starfleet crew were hurled into the uncharted Delta Quadrant and spent seven seasons trying to get home.
"The fact is that if I pitch you a story about somebody getting lost and trying to get home, that's a story that's been told countless times throughout history," Cooper said. "That aspect was not unique to Voyager. What's very different about this show and Voyager is that it's about us, in a contemporary sense of you and I beamed off out of our houses onto a spaceship. What are we going to do, and what are our concerns? We're not in Starfleet. It's not an antiseptic future militaristic happy place where everybody gets along. I don't apologize for telling a story about people trying to get home. In many ways, that was somewhat built into the first season of Atlantis as well."
Cooper even suggested that SGU might be more in sync with the original concept of Voyager than Voyager ended up being. Wright promised that SGU will stick to its course after the pilot.
"They kind of abandoned what they set out in Voyager," Wright said. "They had the conflict between the Maquis and the Starfleet personnel, and that was going to be like, 'Oh, they're going to go at each other.' Well, almost in episode one, Chakotay's her right-hand man, everything's fine, and that went away. They also got even more, I think, episodic than [Star Trek:] Deep Space Nine. It was kind of backwards. So we're not resetting to zero at all. We're not going to destroy a shuttlecraft and then have a new one next week. But, having said that, when you see the characters, when you see the milieu, the ship is so different, it's itself. It's its own show."
Stargate Universe premieres Oct. 2 at 10 p.m. on Syfy.
By user45701 at 12:34 PM ON 07/31/09
So its going to be episode of the week format? Its like TNG meets BSG then?
We will see how it goes but i would still like a very heavy and in depth story arc
By cozy at 12:54 PM ON 07/31/09
'syfy'? Ha, ha, who's stupid idea was that.
By Blue at 12:59 PM ON 07/31/09
Seriously, cozy. The "syfy" jabs got old three months ago. It's done. Get over it.
By Meezer at 1:01 PM ON 07/31/09
So it's Jericho/Lost ensemble cast trying to figure each other out, with a Voyager ripoff premise, BSG ripoff travel, and alien of the week TNG ripoff. I wonder why they dont have any characters with light sabers?
By halfbloodme at 1:07 PM ON 07/31/09
Hmmm I don't like the way Voyager was described as antiseptic.... yes I agree conflicts could and probably should have continued a lot longer but I wouldn't have called it antiseptic.
And from what I still see, it's still a Voyageresque story premise, with BSG style elements and an SG take.
By Blue247 at 1:12 PM ON 07/31/09
Why do I get the feeling that "Defying Gravity" was trying to beat SGU at being the next "Grey's Anatomy" in space?
By Nolrog at 1:50 PM ON 07/31/09
Getting lost and finding your way home isn't Voyager esque (sp?). Getting lost on a space ship in a vast uncharted segment of space is. Just change the name to Stargate: Voyager and be done with it.
We've had SG: TOS, SG: DS9 and now SG: VOY. When will we get a new crew so we can complete the set and have SG: TNG?
Here's an idea. Stop cancelling the Stargate series and you won't have to rip Star Trek for your next series.
By Pandora at 2:19 PM ON 07/31/09
Oh, you lot are predictable...and ignorant.
Everything in science fiction NOW is a "rip off" of science fiction PAST. And everything in science fiction on television is a "rip off" of something in literary science fiction years and years and years ago. There are no new ideas just new ways to present them.
But keep whining. I'm sure someone is entertained by it....and you.
By lq60camaroz at 2:26 PM ON 07/31/09
So what was wrong with Voyager/BSG/Star Trek(all of them)? You all (seemed) to watch them. Just sit back and enjoy. It's Syfy after all.
By PG15 at 2:37 PM ON 07/31/09
OMGz SGU is ripping off The Odyssey!!111!!!
By Madwelshboy at 2:49 PM ON 07/31/09
OMG! its GossipGate: Battlestar Voyager 90210
But seriously, you guys make me laugh at times! It's a TV show, which your criticising without even seeing it, unless some forgot to tell me that time travel was now possible.
By brucea at 2:57 PM ON 07/31/09
star gate lost in space
By Pandora at 3:12 PM ON 07/31/09
That's right, PG15, the ancient Greek Gods will smite us all.
Homer is spinning in his grave.
Also, if any one of the characters dares to eat breakfast, I'm calling it a rip off of my daily routine. And if they drink coffee, I may sue.
For serious.
By GEM at 3:34 PM ON 07/31/09
Just going to need more rubber foreheads. BTW, what happened to the Wraith and the Ori's followers?
What's office pool on when they get back to Earth? 3 to 4 years or 7 if the show gets viewers.
How many years till they get their first pathetic contact with Earth - so someone on the crew can contact little Billy and Tyler - since they missed the Little League game and their birthday.
Then they will discover that their spouses is doing the nasty with someone else.
Predictable. After Atlantis sunk an interesting SG-1 show, I'm not sanguine about Lost in the SG Universe as we Battle Through Stars on our Voyage.
By JimmyDean44 at 3:43 PM ON 07/31/09
This better not be a Battle Rap (Star)
Galactica rip-off, where 3/4 of the time the
characters are whinning about what to eat,
what to wear, this guy is a jerk etc... other-
wise I will turn it off and watch something
else.
By scifi fan at 4:15 PM ON 07/31/09
The Bible tells us NOTHING is NEW under the Sun, so why are any of you’re surprised some of the concepts may have occurred before?
If the series can tell us a newer story and develop the characters into folks we enjoy getting to know then it will be a nice escape from our daily lives.
I do not trust the Syfy change to be in my best interest as a Science fiction fan, but the truth is ALL the networks seem to run from the idea of admitting their shows might actually be part of the genre. Fox doesn’t list Fringe in the program guide as Science fiction, nor does ABC admit Defying Gravity is Science Fiction they all seem ashamed of admitting their show should be included in the genre for fear non SCIFI fans will not give the shows a chance. Syfy lists Warehouse 13 as a dramatic comedy, and my searches of the genre have The Cartoon Channel listing more Science Fiction programs than any other channel.
SGU can be an entertaining show even if it shakes itself out of the franchise’s past approach to story telling. As for SGA, the rating must have dropped below some threshold needed to remain for additional seasons. I do hope the franchise does in the future add a newer series that will pickup where SGA stopped and with a new cast can keep the franchise going in a few years (maybe four or 5 ). I love the franchise as much as any I have ever watched in my 59 years of life. The reruns lately of both SG1 and SGA are just as much fun as they were in the beginning. The unfortunate case of DVD quality for both of these series prevents me from buying the DVDs but maybe the venders that produce the DVDs will be changed and a better quality vender will be found, but for now I have about 40+ hours on my various DVRs to watch when I need a SG fix.
I will be supporting the SGU series and will watch every episode as they become available.
By JimmyDean44 at 4:24 PM ON 07/31/09
scifi fan, that's a great post! I just hope
they don't make the show more appealing
to a non-family oriented audience for the
sake of ratings; i.e., appeal to a much larger
audience,such that it looks and feels much
more like RDM's BSG and less like Star Gate
which was a shining star on an otherwise
black sky of TV content.
By InfiniteMonkey at 5:53 PM ON 07/31/09
Can't wait for this one.
By thecuriousone at 5:54 PM ON 07/31/09
How come sci-fi fans can only think of shows in context of other shows? "Oh, that show involves aliens? Then how is that different than any other show that involves aliens?" I thought we were an open, imaginative group, not just like every other TV fan out there.
By Tarrax at 6:35 PM ON 07/31/09
Blue - "Seriously, cozy. The "syfy" jabs got old three months ago. It's done. Get over it."
Laughing at stupidity never gets old.
By Lila at 7:32 PM ON 07/31/09
Speaking of differing factions in uneasy truce on the same ship, who remembers "seaQuest" where the military who crewed the ship were arguing with the scientists who wanted to explore Earth's oceans?
There was supposed to be a two-in-one leader in Captain Nathan Bridger, who was part of the military (a captain in the UEO) and a scientist (he worked with trying to communicate with dolphins).
He was supposed to see both sides of every argument between the scientists and the military crew, but eventually (as in less than four episodes), any disgruntlement between the two factions disappeared and it became baasically a military ship that had one scientist (the medical doctor) who got to provide all the scientific explanations on cue (a la Dr. McCoy).
It had a lot of really good ideas, but I guess the friction between the two groups was too hard to keep up realistically and the writers wanted it to be Us vs. Them Out There, rather than Us vs. Us Too on the ship.
I can only imagine that any friction between groups on the Desinty will be short-lived and will devolve to individual friction (both physical and emotional), leading to Love Amongst the Stars...
By ZhaneEndrick at 7:36 PM ON 07/31/09
Yeah, Stargate Universe is a total ripoff, what with their LOST IN SPACE idea. Everyone knows that the whole LOST IN SPACE thing started with Voyager. Nobody ever did the LOST IN SPACE thing before Voyager. You would think that the producers and writers of Stargate could think of something better than to ripoff of Voyager's very original LOST IN SPACE theme.
Hmm...wait. Now that I think about it, was there a scifi show with a LOST IN SPACE theme before Voyager? I'm thinking...no, no, Voyager was the first.
By lionelltd at 7:40 PM ON 07/31/09
I've seen this before on other forums, but I always get this sinking feeling as to whether I want to watch the new show or not. Then again, I end up watching it anyway.
Unless it's really horrible, because it's really horrible, I'm going keep watching it until it's over.
And as a new fan of the whole franchise (I only started watching in June 09), I trust the writers, producers, directors to do good job.
Here's hoping it's good.
By Nyarlathotep at 8:29 PM ON 07/31/09
thecuriousone,
hardly, most sci-fi fans are exactly that - Fanatics, as in part of a cult-like "following", the truth is few of them are actually individuals and more just whiney/squeeful little sheep. Its just how it is.
And of course theres plenty of NEW stuff being done, if people started reading or researching Indie/underground stuff they'd see their is ALOT of original and innovative, creative sci-fi, its just too "weird" and "niche" to be relatable to the masses of ''TV-sci-fi'' fans.
By ellesrainbow at 9:19 PM ON 07/31/09
hope you can keep the adventure, thrill, and comedy in the show, Andrew :)
By Eternal Density at 9:31 PM ON 07/31/09
@GEM
rubber foreheads? I think not, as the writers say they made a 'blood pact' not to do humanoid aliens.
And guessing what might happen on the show and then calling your prediction predictable is quite a circular argument and rather stupid really.
By Serena at 9:43 PM ON 07/31/09
Not interested in this new "reinvention" of Stargate, I was perfectly happy with the original recipe.
Out of loyalty to those shows and because of broken promises and disgust with the producers of SGU, I will have nothing to do with it, other than to hope it makes others happy and to laugh maniacally if it fails!
By creno at 10:38 PM ON 07/31/09
I know people like to say "wait 'til it airs before you judge," but Stargate hasn't been done anything remotely original in years. SGA is a perfect example. It was just SG1 in another galaxy. Many of the plots, character archetypes, and enemies were just holdovers from SG1. It shouldn't come as a surprise when people say SGU is ripping off other shows because anyone who has followed the franchise knows these guys ran out of ideas years ago.
I don't get the VOY comparisons though. The lost in space trope has been common throughout science fiction. Not exactly a rip-off. But the BSG comparisons are spot on. The network has made it no secret that BSG is their brand. The trailers, especially Syfy's, are targeting the BSG crowd. If SGU is anything but a Stargate/Battlestar Galactica hybrid, I'll be stunned.
It's good to see some of the GW faithful. Don't worry guys, I'm sure SGU will be the Most Awesomeist Awesome that ever Awesomed. At least on GW.
This cast photo still reminds of The OC though. LOL.
By Pandora at 12:09 AM ON 08/01/09
creno said :It's good to see some of the GW faithful. Don't worry guys, I'm sure SGU will be the Most Awesomeist Awesome that ever Awesomed. At least on GW.
I say :
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Of course you mean as opposed to the oh-so-much-more-reasonable-response of "Oh NOES! SGU will suckity suck because it is a BSG rip off, dontcha know!!!!111!"
Despite the fact that BSG was in no way original. Despite the fact that humanity on the verge of extinction is in no way original to science fiction. Despite the fact that being lost in space is in no way original to Voyager. Despite the fact that aliens are not original to Star Trek. Despite the fact that BSG does not own the moniker of "dark science fiction".
Despite all this, SGU can't be anything but a rip off. Despite all this, there's no way it can be good. It will suck. It has to suck. Why? Because you say so! And if you say so, and the folks at GW say it will be the awesomiest thing that ever awesomed, well, you have to be right because there's no possible way that the creators of two shows that lasted 15 seasons put together could ever create something actually worthwhile.
You know, despite the fact that they've already done it.
They're ripping off themselves, arent't they?
DAMN IT! I knew it!
By Dylyn at 12:15 AM ON 08/01/09
Well, I'm gonna give SGU a chance. I wish TPTB hadn't screwed over the SGA actors, but I'm not gonna preemptively punish the SGU actors (most of whom I already love) by not watching because of what TPTB did.
By ShannyBoy at 1:57 AM ON 08/01/09
lol How do you b*tch about a show supposedly "ripping off BSG"? Are we talking about the ORIGINAL BSG or the REMAKE?
By kennythewraith at 2:45 AM ON 08/01/09
ya know sgu is a farscape rip off too because they arent supposed to be there and get flung into another part of the univers through a wormhole and spend there time trying to get home just like john crichton!!oh wait thats just as ridiculous as all the other comparisons!
By Eternal Density at 4:23 AM ON 08/01/09
Hey, would you all stop ripping off the English language?
By jta at 7:22 AM ON 08/01/09
i noticed many people mentioning voyager
and finally lost in space but lets not forget
about a old one, space 1999.
ill give this show a fair shot so far the stargate
shows have been good. and if it is bad its still got
to be better than voyager
By Cessna3 at 7:41 AM ON 08/01/09
Who cares if it's like voyager etc.. It's STARGATE and there's nothing much else decent to watch anyway.
By MaryAnn254 at 9:04 AM ON 08/01/09
I am very optimistic about the new series. It *feels* different from anything we have seen on TV recently. From what little I have gleaned, it seems more like "Lost" or "Flash Forward" than other scifi shows, but that doesn't make it a rip off.
The series needed a reboot. The first five seasons of SG-1 were superb, but once it changed channels, the quality of the writing went downhill, and I was just never able to get into SGA. The main characters were unlikable, and the whole thing became more and more hokey as it went along. If we can't have the original SG-1 in its heyday, I'm all for doing something totally new with the SG universe.
By sfwierdo at 9:18 AM ON 08/01/09
The Greek playwrights said that there were only 36 plots. Everything is a variation on those.
By WFDave at 12:54 PM ON 08/01/09
Huh.. they try to trash BSG in the title, and nothing in the article. I guess Syfy is steering away from emotionally gripping and hard-hitting stories then. Everything they say about this SG, they said about the last one and it's only a season finale away from introducing the borg... i'm sorry, i mean whatever villians will be hunting them every given sweeps.
Don't come to me and tell me you 2nd spin-off is the new and better and different and all the greatness that is a show. Mcgiver can only be a few episodes away.
By c at 2:49 PM ON 08/01/09
@ Cessna3
I'm with you. Nobody should care. However, for some reason, the fanboys get worked up in a froth when someone utters "rip-off" eventhough they use the "nothing is original" argument. Why get defensive over something you openly acknowledge? I just don't get it.
/shrugs
By whatthe at 3:46 PM ON 08/01/09
Serena, aren't SG1 cast members in SGU though?
By Pepermint Jaffa at 6:51 PM ON 08/01/09
Even if it were a Voyager/BSG mashup, which I don't think it will be, that doesn't mean SGU won't still be good. Calm down people.
By Simon Baylor at 9:00 PM ON 08/01/09
From the previews ive seen, it looks promising.
By paul at 9:52 PM ON 08/01/09
Well, it's clear to me SGU will be BSGesque. Syfy obviously wants a ship-based show to follow the steps of BSG, Farscape, etc. I just don't understand why some people get so defensive when someone suggests that. You know, it's not a bad thing for a show to be compared to great series of the past. Heck, if SGU is half as good and successful as those shows, consider yourselves lucky.
By Madwelshboy at 4:43 AM ON 08/02/09
@Paul
These a difference in describing something as BSGesque and a BSG rip-off and that's why people are defensive. BSGesque suggests that element of BSG have inspired some of the creative direction of SGU (which i agree with). In that way SGU is just as much LOSTesque as it is BSGesque, hell SGU is described by TPTB as "more LOST than BSG". While saying that SGU is a BSG rip off, is insinuating that SGU is a poor carbon copy of BSG. And until the show premiers, no one can tell if it will be a rip off or not, trailers can only give you a feel for a show, hence being able to say that SGU is inspired by show X, but with out a complete product these no fair way to say that its a rip off, the saying "dont judge a book by its cover" comes to mind.
If you look at all the interviews around where TPTB discuss SGU you'll see that its inspired by many a show, Firefly, SG1, SGA, Lost, Survivor. The same can be done with any show, look closely enough and you can see elements of shows past & present in them. That's how the TV industry works, creators of new show look as the things that have made their other shows successful and them to the DNA of their show. That's how TV shows evolve, and that's always how the industry is going to work.
By Michael Dracon at 6:31 AM ON 08/02/09
A lot of people seem to forget about SLIDERS. With the whole 'going places randomly' premise SGU actually has more in common with that than Voyager or BSG.
By scifire at 7:22 AM ON 08/02/09
I've said it before and I will say it again. Let's give it a chance. There isn't much good Sci-fi on TV anymore.
By IHateUSyfy at 10:05 AM ON 08/02/09
I just spent 10 minutes reading everyones post on here, then another 20 minutes writing a really good message 7 am in the morning when i haven't slept yet and i have to get up at 9:30 am only to have it not not show up on here when i type that captcha crap in...so who cares about this SGU voyager BSG mashup stuff now...i just hate you now syfy!
By Zathras at 3:25 PM ON 08/02/09
In the article, Brad Wright said that SGU would feature more innovative handheld camera work, saying "we have a constantly moving camera incorporating visual effects at the same time."
This really makes me nervous. I've become truly tired of the dramatic overuse of "shakycam" and "rapid jumpcuts" that are increasingly used in most tv shows today. Does this mean we're going to get more science fiction shows that are filmed in the pretentious style of CSI? Battlestar Galactica often used these techniques and they annoyed me; I only continued to watch it because the show was otherwise very entertaining. I recently tried watching Warehouse 13 and just gave up, not so much because of the cliche plots, but because of the irritating cinematography, where the camera is constantly moving around as if the operator is drunk.
The bottom line is this: the viewer of a movie or tv show should NEVER be consciously aware that what he or she is watching is coming through the lens of a camera. The cinematography should feel like natural vision. All of these gimmicky visual effects are distracting, and the directors who use them to "add realism" should focus instead on creating engaging plots and dialogue. I can't help but think that people looking back at contemporary movies and television a few decades from now will look at the filming techniques and will think to themselves "WTF were these directors thinking?"
By Sherwood_Forest_Maiden at 8:55 PM ON 08/02/09
MGM told Brad Wright that he could have money for 1 season of SGA & SGU or 2 seasons of SGU!! That is why SGA was canceled; but I didn't like the way BW said that SGU was pitched to a younger audience. In that instant he alienated the SG-1 & SGA fan base, many of who have kids who are in the SGU target audience.
Quoting Madwelshboy - "OMG! its GossipGate: Battlestar Voyager 90210"
LOL LOL
By cimmer at 3:12 AM ON 08/03/09
Yes the series needs a reboot. The series NEEDS new writers and probably producers. And why are we calling it SG Voyager when Syfy and TPTB are already comparing it to BSG. They want the viewers to think BSG when they see the trailers and hear about the show so give them what they want. Frankly I'd be happy if MGM handed the whole franchise over to some 'younger, edgier' new PTB and really go Wormhole Extreme with the whole thing. LOL
By Mandy at 6:37 AM ON 08/03/09
Okay, I'm not a Trekkie but I noticed this. You claim it's NOT Voyager-esque but 'It's more like wha they originally intended Voyager to be than Voyager turned out to be.' So... It's not like Voyager but it is and somehow it's more Voyager than voyager. That's not even double talk. That makes my head hurt.
By Mandy at 6:38 AM ON 08/03/09
'here are no new ideas just new ways to present them.'
To me that's an excuse to be lazy. If that was true than the genre of Science Fiction would never have come into existence.
By vlock at 7:06 AM ON 08/03/09
Having SGU copy BSG, Voyager, etc. doesn't bother me nearly as much as the fact that the same, burned out writers and producers are still in charge. If MGM were really serious about trying to reinvigorate the Stargate franchise, then the first step should be to get rid of the dead weight at the top because these guys ran out of fresh ideas a long time ago.
I give SGU one season before they do to it what they did to SGA - try to turn it into a SG-1 clone, complete with increased airtime for SG-1 characters. After all, once upon a time SGA was also described as darker and grittier and yet by Season 2 it was well on its way to being a clone of SG-1.
If SGU crashes and burns, then MGM shouldn't even think about doing another Stargate series unless they completely overhaul the writing team.
By gateman2000 at 9:45 AM ON 08/03/09
Everyone just keeps crying over this. Grow up and get it over! I have never seen so many whimpy fan boys crying in my life.
By GEM at 11:41 AM ON 08/03/09
Well, I hope at least it fends off the invasion of wrestling and reality shows looking for ghosts on PsiPfi.
Funny, how the Start Trek NG gets replayed and replayed and Voyager is not.
People are correct that SGA was just dude - clone cast team, a stupid villian set (The Wraith never matched the fun of the Go'auld).
Wonder who the constant villian in this one will be. Go'auld were slugs, the Wraith - beetles. What invertebrate? I suggest giant clams that snap their way towards universe domination.
By McTex at 12:38 PM ON 08/03/09
This may be the only Stargate show I enjoy.
By jackpot at 11:04 PM ON 08/03/09
NOT looking forward to this
By staryeyed at 2:49 AM ON 08/06/09
I for one am very excited that things have continued. & can't wait for SCU to start.
I'm very happy that Lou Diamond Phillips is going to be a reg. on the show. I love Robert Carlyle & am soooo happy that i will get to see his work again. I watch Hamish Macbeth 1-2-& 3 over & over! :)
Just one small comment , from the short clip, I hope that the cameras are not going to continue to be moving around all over the place in every eppy. :( Sorry to be complaing, but I got very motion sick & had to turn away.
Thanks for reading.
By joeblo at 12:24 AM ON 08/18/09
So I hope that they will not use some of the crapy sets filming techniques that they used on BSG This is ADVANCED tech sure it is 10000 years old but come on there are automated systems to keep things form rusting I have not seem much but looks a lot like BSG which I am sorry but I hated that show I LOVED stargate and atlantis they where unique! Fresh that is what we need more of fresh stuff so I am sure that the 1st season is already mostly filmed but lets keep it fresh paint the ship use clear clean lenses on cameras Please please dont let the filming be anything like BSG!! BSG should have been another show name like alternate universe BSG that would have been okay like the current star trek but come on Starbuck was a MAN a slick ladies man smoked cigars dated all the hot chicks but was good with the kids ok ok I know that is fer another forum the point I am making is universe should not be stargate or atlantis but still be tied to that stuff this is like the next saga of HUMANS exploring space in a format that is like Soooo open could be really cool, and fun Aliens that join the crew are a good idea keep it fresh and moving along we all hate to see established charterers killed off but that can keep the show fresh
As far as cameras moving to fast I agree BSG had that SAME problem fast camera movement does not make the sow more exciting good plot and cliff hangers do that.
By dnvergrl at 10:36 AM ON 08/19/09
Hi All,
Well I loved SG-1 and very much enjoyed SG-A. I have found that it takes time to get to know new characters and come to care about what happens to them. I will be giving SGU a chance as I truly want to like it. I very much miss both SG-1 and SG-A. I wish they had kept them both. I do watch the reruns of course. Wish the SyFy channel would once again do a day devoted to SG-1 and SG-A like they used to. o a Monday SG-1, then Tuesday SG-A, weekly. Has anyone heard if there will be a new movie or DVD release with the SG-A actors? I for one would enjoy that as well as a new SG-1 movie.
Thanks for letting me share.
By phronsie at 12:14 AM ON 09/26/09
You know, there really needs to be a common, funny, derisive term for the dipstick who always ends up on any given board exclaiming, "quit complaining, whiners; get a life; go away if you don't like 'whatever;' etc." Honestly, was there ever a more inane, worthless type of post? LOL
So, is there already a term for this type of dinlo?
By anotherJared at 12:20 AM ON 09/26/09
What I loved about SG-1 and SG-Atlantis, they both had character elements that worked well in drama and added in some humor. The dynamics worked.
Now SG-U looks like to capitalize on drama and make everyone emo.... yes we get it your lives suck and you hate it.
If this is what it turns out being I'm going to pass. Lou Diamond Phillips is stoic, he's not a fun character/relatable amusing guy, he's no O'Neil or Shepard.
By Annoyed at 11:57 PM ON 10/02/09
So far, the show is nothing more than...HORRIBLE.
They kept advertising Lou Diamond Phillips all these past months, and wouldn't you know it...dead already...
They wanted a new younger cast. Well, the cast is TOO young.
Drama? Don't need it, and don't want to watch it constantly.
Stargate doesn't need to be all about a bunch of young bucks trying to be alpha male every episode.
The show IS, just like previous individuals have described, 90210 in space.
It's ridiculous.
The cast are ridiculous as well. There is literally ZERO acting skill. All of them suck.
I haven't seen one character I want to see live to the end of the series. All of the other cast members of the previous shows had a stand out presence on screen.
The dialog is bad, the acting is bad, the cast overall is bad...and they've already killed off the only two actors who had credibility.
I will not be watching the show for long if it continues to be this HORRIBLE.
Seriously, I doubt the show will make it to a second or third season.
FLOP
By EquallyAnnoyed at 3:27 AM ON 10/03/09
I mean... really? 5 mins into it I thought i was watching BSG. Then I realized I was watching ST Voyager so I was ok again. Then I remembered this was a Stargate spinoff. I'm so pissed. What made Stargate SG1 cool? Why not go with that since that is what the fans want? ST Voyager sucked too until they realized that fans wanted more of the same enemies and dilemmas. How many seasons before the producers realize what we already know? Stop with the shaky camera. BSG sucked. We want Stargate, not your version of a different show. They managed to **ck up the longest running scifi series. Nice job guys.
By Jobe at 3:44 AM ON 10/03/09
Its farscape! Without the muppets :)
By Gerald Fnord at 12:00 PM ON 10/03/09
One of the _charms_ of the original 'Stargate' series was how shamelessly it ripped-off specific 'Star Trek' episodes. I allowed it a lot because the main cast members were _great_ comedians, and Don Davis a great straight-man.
Make all the distinctions-without-differences you will: this ius 'Stargate: Voyager' by way of 'Lost', with style and 'grittiness' standing-in for actual seriousness, which can inc lude humour (which I think will be lacking).
By alien0 at 11:10 AM ON 12/06/09
Hey guys,
i'm really sad what they did with the sg-franchise.
i can assure everyone that millions of sg fans worldwide are furious over this crappy turn syfy has called for.
please come over to http://www.sgusucks.com and express your doubts and your anger. sign our petition, it's worth it.
thx for reading!!
By Venushion at 4:41 PM ON 03/17/10
I really like all the people on the show so far, but I hope that this season will go back to being Sci-fi & stop all those sex filled sences.
I was to see Alien races & kool gagets not a Sexy soap opera. Thank you
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