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Was Sanctuary's Ashley killed off? Should she be?

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Is Sanctuary's Ashley dead? After being transformed into Super Abnormal Ashley (Emilie Ullerup) by that nasty Cabal and leading an attack, she vanished in a fiery blaze on Syfy's supernatural series last Friday, rather than kill her own mum, Dr. Helen Magnus (Amanda Tapping).

While it's not much of a surprise that Ashley couldn't kill Magnus (which would have led to an abrupt end of the series, what with Magnus being the main character and all), whether Ashley will live or die isn't as easy to conclude.

After all, they just added another hip, hot girl character named Kate Freelander, played by Agam Darshi. Could she be Ashley's replacement? And, of course, the death of Ashley means kick-ass blonde Ullerup would be leaving the series.

"The fate of Ashley will be determined in the first three episodes," promised creator and executive producer Damian Kindler. "It gets really intense. It gets dark. We're not afraid to get very emotional in the way the characters interact. That's one of the signatures of Sanctuary."

The third episode in the arc, "Eulogy," airs tonight on Syfy at 10 p.m. ET with Magnus searching for her daughter, who she believes is still alive, while Druitt (Christopher Heyerdahl) thinks she's dead and seeks revenge against the Cabal.

We won't have to wait long to learn if Ashley survives the Cabal's devious plan, which morphed her into a vampirey teleportation sort of super-Abnormal super-soldier with glowing red eyes and big claws. Beyond the claws and eyes and stuff, we knew it wasn't our Ashley because her hair was pulled back and she sneered and moved really fast unless Magnus was around. Of course she was still dressed in slick black and, I've been told, looked smoking hot.

Here's a few reasons to kill her off and some to let her live:

Kill off Ashley because it adds drama. God knows Magnus needs to be miserable. She fell in love with Jack the Ripper, after all. And then, instead of choosing Einstein or some other cool historical figure as the father of her child, she chose ... Jack the Ripper. That's a heartbreak waiting to happen.

Let Ashley live because she's fun and adds some light to the very dark world of Sanctuary. Unlike all the other characters, Ashley is totally happy with who she is. She enjoys her job. She has a love/hate relationship with her mother but doesn't let that get her down, and she gets to kick butt on a regular basis. She's blond, and I've been told she's smoking hot.

Kill Ashley off because the mother/daughter drama is silly. After, like, 135 years or so, Magnus has test-tube baby Ashley and then raises her to be the Sanctuary enforcer. So then Magnus is surprised that Jack the Ripper's daughter, who she's raised to totally kick ass, is going to be rebellious?

Let Ashley live because Magnus isn't much of a mother. Tapping did a stunning job when it came to this particular three-episode arc. For the first time I bought Magnus as a mother, so maybe the mother/daughter drama of the first season will evolve into something interesting through the second.

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Agam Darshi as Kate Freelander

Kill Ashley off because Kate Freelander joined the team. She doesn't kick butt like Ashley, but she's good with a quip and, I've been told, she's also smoking hot. Kate's a bit of a bad girl, and she's not afraid to take on Magnus. And as a con woman, or maybe a former con woman, she's an asset to the team, so they won't need Ashley's Rambo mentality to get the job done. Beyond that, Ashley and Will have no romantic chemistry together. Kate and Will have potential.

Let Ashley live because Kate and Ashley would clash nicely. They'd also work well together. Two quippy hot ladies who have nothing in common could eventually be a force to be reckoned with. And, if nothing else, I've been told, two smoking hot ladies are better than one.

So thumbs up or thumbs down? Should she live or die? What do you think?

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By Magellan at 1:49 PM ON 10/23/09

Didn't she dissapear in a flash 5 minutes before that when the EMP field was activated? I don't think it killed her based on her surviving it the first time. Unless I missed something.

By Kikstad at 2:06 PM ON 10/23/09

I like her. Even better this season without the bangs.

Hope they didn't kill her off.

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By Geoff at 2:06 PM ON 10/23/09

No, the EMP field was activated, thats why when the Uber Vamps teleported they went into a burst of flames. However, the UV's were embued with several abliities that may have been unknown at the time. Maybe matter manipulation? Could she have survived? I guess we'll find out tonite...

By InfiniteMonkey at 2:10 PM ON 10/23/09

Keep her. The more HOT women the merrier! LOL!

By Starshine at 2:15 PM ON 10/23/09

If you read the IMDB it says she's in all the episodes so it's not very likely they've killed her off.

By Annie at 2:23 PM ON 10/23/09

That would totally suck if they killed of Ashley!!!

By Praetor ShinzonII at 2:26 PM ON 10/23/09

They won't kill her off but will be forever changed in some way.
Some of us thought Clare was a newbie for the doctor to have. Invisible girl was cool.
Kate won't last. Nobody named Kate ever survives on tv shows.

By siuengr at 2:28 PM ON 10/23/09

They should let her live so she can get in a lesbian relationship with Kate, like every other Sci-fi show is doing now.

By vjw at 2:32 PM ON 10/23/09

What really annoys me is the reference to "Magnus" throughout this article. They do that on Sanctuary, too. They all call her "Magnus" instead of Helen. The only guy that calls her by her given name is Ashley's father. It's ok to call a guy by his last name, but please start calling a lady by her first name.

Ok, now that THAT's off my chest, keep Ashley. Get rid of Kate. If they were going to add another woman, they should have kept the invisible girl that was killed off last week. It's not really necessary to have 3 "fightin' women" on the show. Someone needs a bit of softness.

By KatsuKaze at 2:40 PM ON 10/23/09

My theory is that the real Ashley is in some sort storage tank where the Cabal can grow evil clones... Destroy one, grow another... that way it'll keep the good guys on a larger arc of discovery and rescue.

By ecgordon at 2:42 PM ON 10/23/09

>>Praetor ShinzonII -"Kate won't last. Nobody named Kate ever survives on tv shows.">>

Yeah, you're right. Kate Austen has been killed off of Lost, and they are soon to do away with Kate Beckett so that Castle can model his next book's characters after Ryan and Esposito. ;)

By tuck4vols at 2:50 PM ON 10/23/09

But Ashley was the master mold for the UV's. She may have had an x-factor the others didn't.

By asfm at 3:13 PM ON 10/23/09

I've only seen a few episodes, but from what I've seen, she's the only good thing about the show.

And I'm not talking about her acting prowess.

By wordwitty at 3:16 PM ON 10/23/09

Kathie, How many times can you say "I've been told." Don't you have eyes? Don't you watch the show? Or is it that you feel they are not attractive and are deferring to what the guys in the office are saying?

By Alex at 3:17 PM ON 10/23/09

Being vapourized as tried to teleport while the EMP field was active, as we should all know in a TV SF series, means nothing. There's probably a duplicate goody-goody version of her stored somewhere, or DNA they can re-grow, or any number of other similar (and, at times, silly) scenarios they can concocted because the writers on these shows love contrivance. It gets them out of any and all corners they've boxed themselves into.

So I'm of the belief she'll be back, maybe not straight away, but she'll pop up as a surprise. Oh, and that was one hellova arc!

By dcoughler at 3:29 PM ON 10/23/09

I was still pulling for the Ashley - Will romance. Ashley helped design the EM shields and is also uber-smart when it comes to technology. Maybe ones she "de-Cabal'd", she thought of a way around the lack of teleportation ability when the shield is up. Or, she could be trying to pull herself back together like Doctor Midnight in "The Watchmen" graphic novel (if you only saw the movie, you missed most of that part).

By Joe Lawry at 3:53 PM ON 10/23/09

Come on, people! We're dealing with the supernatural here. Regardless of how she comes back, she'll be coming back.

By kryche at 3:58 PM ON 10/23/09

She is the only decent thing about this dreary, terribly conceived and terribly acted show.

Don't really care if they kill her or not, I gave up on this turd after the season premiere put me to sleep.

By photoguyryan at 4:09 PM ON 10/23/09

MAybe she was killed off, and is coming back as a ghost/spirit/spectre/vampire?

That would give SCIFI a tie in for their ghosthunter series.

By dosetsu at 4:15 PM ON 10/23/09

I was hoping to see Ashley develop a relationship with her father. I liked the chemistry of Ullerup & Heyerdahl in the season 2 episode "The Five". I really felt like I was watching a father scold his daughter. The scene made me believe that Ashley figured out Druitt was her father from that one encounter. Ashley is incomplete as a person because she has her fathers instincts. This is a part of her that Magnus could never help her understand & I would like to see her "come into her own." I also like that Ashley was refreshlingly naive in her attraction to Zimmerman in the season 2 episode "Nubbins." Not to mention her awkward flirting with Zach Spencer (camera man) in the season 2 episode "Instinct". Ashley and Henry's sibling-like relationship is part of the lighter side of the show. Their characters represent the innocence and future of the Sanctuary. The idea of a sanctuary involves life and that can't be effectively conveyed simply by the serious exchanges between Zimmerman, Magnus & Bigfoot. Druitt and Tesla already fill the wisecracking hardcase quota for the show. Nothing says purity of the philosophy of the sanctuary more than Ashley choosing to defend it for herself not for her Magnus. That's how you know the idea of the sanctuary will stand the test of time, not because Magnus doesn't have an expiration date. Ashley is needed for the credibility of "hope for tommorrow" the show tries to deliver.

By TC at 4:16 PM ON 10/23/09

Ashley will be back!! But can they continue the good work please? Having gotten rid of the horrible, cliche invisible girl can they now get rid of the new horrible, cliche girl Kate?? Please and do it quick!!!

By scifire at 4:38 PM ON 10/23/09

Let Ashley LIVE!

By lisaS at 4:44 PM ON 10/23/09

Yes Ashley needs to live! There is so much more story to tell with her. Her relationship with her parents for starters, but also her coming to terms with what she is and what she's done.

By EH-T at 4:47 PM ON 10/23/09

I hope Ashley will be back. First, I have had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Ullerup and she is a wonderful young lady. Second, I think the character had great interaction with Helen and Henry and great potential for a very interesting relationship with her Dad. Now add to that all she will have to deal with in realtion to what the Cabal did to her and what she did while under their control and you have the makings of some fabulous storylines.

By wraithfodder42 at 5:44 PM ON 10/23/09

I realize I risk instant immolation for saying this, but I didn't mind that they killed off Ashley as I found her annoying. *quickly donning Nomex in my fireproof bunker*

By Dreamtime909 at 6:06 PM ON 10/23/09

All smoking hot ladies should live, everybody knows that! So I've been told...

By Overquoted at 6:23 PM ON 10/23/09

Oh *please* let her be dead. I hate the whole bitchy blonde thing they have her doing. And she's not that great of an actress to begin with.

And yes, the whole mother-daughter thing got old after about five seconds.

By KeyBorg at 6:55 PM ON 10/23/09

I see a the winning option is missing from the article:
Kill off this show so the death of a character is a moot point.

By FanaticalWhovian at 7:29 PM ON 10/23/09

As much as I like real drama.. I prefer if she lives. I liked the character..and i didn't think that 'mother/daughter' drama was actually all that much. Especially when I've seen the real life stuff.

By Omen at 8:13 PM ON 10/23/09

Let Ashley live for vengence against The Cabal. Especially to ripe the one who made her in half. Keep Kate as the banter, properly done, between them can be fun.
As for calling Magnus by her last name.
Scully.
Nuf said.

By Raven kai at 11:00 PM ON 10/23/09

KEEP HER! It just won't be the same without Kick-Ash. This going evil story is perfect to bring back the edge that was in her character in the webseries that was missing from the TV show. it also will make Magnus a heck of a lot more interesting. Keep her in a tank for now if they (the Cabal) have to, but do bring her back at some point!!! She is my favorite part of the show.

By Guillermo at 11:07 PM ON 10/23/09

I hope they don't cut her off. When they showed the preview of the next episode it had nothing to do with Ashley. This can't be the end of Ashley. We didn't even get to know her that much.

By none at 11:13 PM ON 10/23/09

You people forget sci-fi's ineptness at maintaining shows. BSG and SG1 are the exceptions.

By Matt at 11:21 PM ON 10/23/09

I hope they don't kill her, she added alot of fun to the show, obviously they will strip her of most of her newfound powers, but I hope she will be back.

By Chowtime at 11:25 PM ON 10/23/09

She died, I don't know why she was killed off, but she died. I wonder if she got a better gig? This show is gonna suck.

By LC at 11:38 PM ON 10/23/09

Ok. I'm done with the show. If she's dead, I'm out.

By Sanctuary4ALL at 11:52 PM ON 10/23/09

Well, considering the season is already been taped, what's done is done....so, what IS the point of this "article"? And, where oh where did the lame-as% "questions/points" come from? Perhaps if you had actually watched the show rather than "so I have been told..." (gathering info at water-cooler are we?)-- it would have been a more interesting article.

By kit150 at 12:03 AM ON 10/24/09

Emilie Ullerup is listed for all the episode's this season.I hope she will be back as the real Ashely. Not as some ghost like being that Magnus see's at times.
Emilie is a big part of the show, She is a wonderful talented actress. And her character I think bring's in alot of the rating's.

By WasAWatcher at 1:05 AM ON 10/24/09

If she is off the show, which appears from tonight's show that she is really gone, then this is it for me watching the show. If she is back on, then will someone please email me.

By jorge at 2:42 AM ON 10/24/09

She carried this entire second-rate Canadian series.. if they kill her off I stop watching too. IMDB says she's in more episodes this season.. hopefully not just as flashbacks/hallucinations.

By suse2301 at 3:43 AM ON 10/24/09

Definitely keep her for so many things...!!!
She such a cool character and has so much to be dicovered. + I want to see more Ashley/Helen Ashley/Druit scenes.


By starladygs at 3:56 AM ON 10/24/09

If enough people say they want her back, maybe they'll bring her back. After all, they did the same thing with a character in SG Atlantis, bringing back Carson from the dead. Okay, so they cloned him, but his character was still brought back by popular demand. And I'm in favor of bringing her back. The only bright spot in the show.

By Tarc at 7:36 AM ON 10/24/09

I really hate it when writers like Kathie Huddleston here ineffectively try to convince her readers that she doesn't what makes another woman 'hot'. Being a gay man with absolutely zero interest in women as sex objects, I can tell you unfailingly when men or women are not - like the vast majority of people. Kathie's dancing around the attractiveness of Ashley, not once but several times, smacks of either jealousy, stupidity, or disingenouslness. In all cases, it comes off as vaguelly homophobic - like a straight woman cannot conceive why another woman is hot. Please.

By TheFifthSister at 12:39 PM ON 10/24/09

Let her live! I've loved the mother/daughter dynamic. They were building it up and I wanna see more of it.

I think she'll be back later in the series. Ashley was an interesting character and I want to see her story progress as everyone elses will.

Her and Kate would eventually make a great team too!

By lizardwiz at 2:08 PM ON 10/24/09

Ashley should live!!! they all ready killed off the inviable woman, now there going to kill Ashley too??? Its going to be sooooo different and strange with out her....

By xgalahad55 at 2:41 PM ON 10/24/09

i cant believe what they are doing on sanctuary! killing clare off was a dumb enough move.....but ashley?are you kidding? first couple of episodes have not been up to par! if ashley does not come back im done with this show! that new girl sucks! she is not even a good actress....her lines are forced! trying too hard to be cool n its not working. will give it a couple more episodes but i will probably bail on this show if the story lines keep sucking!!! bring ashley back!

By Lord Uintah at 4:00 PM ON 10/24/09

This show is on a treadmill. Amanda Tapping made some crummy choices from the beginning - black hair, English accent (a bad one at that) - just nothing to be the lead character.
Now it appears that Ashley is gone - bad move - maybe just because I like Danes. Kate - grind my teeth - lousy acting - must be sleeping with someone in control or pulling a Bill Clinton behind the scenes. Ms. Invisible lasted TOO long - we do not get excited about a green screen naked gurl. The series cannot survive if all they are going to do is run around collecting more abnormals - right Fox and Scully? The future of this is pretty grim.

By nimue at 5:36 PM ON 10/24/09

The show is still getting setup. So, calm down people not everything is instant gratification. I think the show has potential. I would like to see Ashley back. I would be interesting to see something develop between her and Will. After all she was with the group that killed invisible girl. Also, what would it be like to fall in love with Jack the Ripper's daughter.

By Ashley at 6:08 PM ON 10/24/09

I really really really hope they keep Ashley and get rid of Kate. I have not been a fan of her since day one. She's not funny at all and annoying as hell. She adds nothing to the show, nothing against the actress playing her but that character is just so poorly written.

By chica at 7:51 PM ON 10/24/09

Keep Ashley!!! I love her character and it was nice to see a strong, capable woman on screen. I hate Kate, she's irritating and her "quips" are just annoying, not funny. Plus the girl who plays her can't act. Bring back Ashley!

By keekee at 10:12 PM ON 10/24/09

please bring back ashely, the new girl is so annoying, if she continues i'll have to stop watching the show!

By NAD at 2:40 AM ON 10/25/09

boy oh boy are they really right about the new character kate on sanctuary. she is one of the most annoying untalented whiny characters i have ever had the displeasure to encounter on a tv screen. if ashley is dead then i and many other viewers are probably also gone and not because she is a hot blonde chick as many people will think. she actually was a good character and i feel killing her off to show how human(as the producers call it) the show is was a way off base idea. i don't really think she is dead and they left themselves some wiggle room to bring her back. there was no body but was that a copy of ashley and the cabal has her somewhere on ice hmmm makes you wonder. this is why its called science fiction there is always the ability to bring someone back remember daniel jackson from sg1 how many times did he die hmm he died in the original picture them one time on a planet then from radiation poisoning they brought him back it just some creative thinking on the writers part. she'll be back don't worry

By kimi628 at 7:24 AM ON 10/25/09

GODS I HOPE KATE IS GONE SOON. She is annoying. I actually dread watching any parts of the show with her in it.

By SS at 10:33 AM ON 10/25/09

Ashley was great, loved her. Tough, funny, smart. To kill her off is a terrible choice. Kate is more than annoying. Seriously. The actress may be great, but the character is awful. The last few posts, especially NAD, are absolutely right. I don't know if I can put up with Kate for much longer, and I loved this show!!!

By SS at 10:35 AM ON 10/25/09

And, killing off Claire??? What were they thinking? She was great! Fun, cute, good match for Will. She brightened up the screen. Whoever is making the decisions on killing off people should be fired.

By kit151 at 11:03 AM ON 10/25/09

Emilie ullerup is on Smallville Oct 30th. I hope she stay's on Sanctuary the show and fans need her. But she is young and strong so she might be able to do both shows. She very talent and people everywhere seem to love her. Let's all wish her the best in what she choose's to do.

By unknown2angels at 2:04 PM ON 10/25/09

Kate is really an awful stereotypical character. I think the actor playing with her is okay but she's not given much to work with. I'd be happy with her going like NOW.

By overlord at 3:22 PM ON 10/25/09

I love Ashely she is best character in sanctuary,i dont like Kate she is bad and actress too.
I need Ashely in show or ...

By Bran at 4:46 PM ON 10/25/09

I never thought the girl who played Ashley was a great actress, but compared to the idiot who plays Kate, she's what Ed Norton is to Ben Affleck. I disagree with the comments saying Kate's character is awful but not her acting...I think 80% of the problem is her horrible acting and 20% is her poorly written character. A good actor could easily pull it off. So in short, as I watched the third episode, I found myself maliciously wishing for Kate's demise as I dared to hope that Ashley would be found alive. Instead, I recieved the tremendous displeasure of voyeuristically experiencing the pain of a parent's loss of their child via fantasy's proxy, and no one really likes that feeling even if it is a cheap imitation of the original. The Sanctuary higher-ups need to mend this emotional wound they have inflicted upon their fans, otherwise I'll be taking my revenge upon them by ceasing any and all interest I may have had in their work. Christ, it's like The Dresden Files all over again.

By Bran at 4:48 PM ON 10/25/09

I never thought the girl who played Ashley was a great actress, but compared to the idiot who plays Kate, she's what Ed Norton is to Ben Affleck. I disagree with the comments saying Kate's character is awful but not her acting...I think 80% of the problem is her horrible acting and 20% is her poorly written character. A good actor could easily pull it off. So in short, as I watched the third episode, I found myself maliciously wishing for Kate's demise as I dared to hope that Ashley would be found alive. Instead, I recieved the tremendous displeasure of voyeuristically experiencing the pain of a parent's loss of their child via fantasy's proxy, and no one really likes that feeling even if it is a cheap imitation of the original. The Sanctuary higher-ups need to mend this emotional wound they have inflicted upon their fans, otherwise I'll be taking my revenge upon them by ceasing any and all interest I may have had in their work. Christ, it's like The Dresden Files all over again.

By Al at 6:55 PM ON 10/25/09

Ashley is a great bonus for the science fiction/horror genre. Just like the concept of Buffy appealed to fans, so does Ashley.

In most every other horror/scifi shows you tend to find the hottie blonde either cowering in a corner or running away from the bad guy (often half-naked). Going against the stereotype makes all seemingly weak characters potential heroes for the show.

Kate does not fall into this category, being a brunette and having a corrupt past. Deceptive women do little to the storyline with secret organizations and constant mysteries.

By Niniel at 9:35 PM ON 10/25/09

NO- she should NOT be killed off. Kate has an obnoxious voice and is NO WHERE NEAR AS BAD ASS AS ASHLEY. The whole Ashely- Jack-the-Ripper- Magnus drama is THE CORE OF THE SHOW.
Also in response to vjw- ONLY MEN ARE REFERRED TO BY THEIR LAST NAMES?!!! That strongly implies that men are superior to women, and conveys that you're a chauvinistic idiot. My god man, she's been alive for 158 years and is one of the best scientists in the world. She deserves the respect of being called by her last name. Would you call an 80-year old female Professor by her first name? No. Add 80 more years to that, and you REALLY won't call her by her first name. Just because she has an inny-bit rather than an outy-bit does not mean she deserves less respect!

By dragondeathlord at 12:56 AM ON 10/26/09

She need to live to have lots of little vampires with Tesla.And drive her parents insane when Tesla starts Calling Dr.Helen Magnus Mom.

By NAD at 7:04 AM ON 10/26/09

got to laugh at bran's comments comparing ed norton to ben affleck but i don't know how he meant it i mean after all didn't ben affleck make gigli with that Jennifer lopez person. LOL but seriously folks this is sci fi where, as they say anything is possible, so who knows.

By ghengisbob at 9:53 AM ON 10/26/09

Ashley will be back, but not until the season finale.

By SPotter at 10:57 AM ON 10/26/09

Bring Ashley back, and kill of Kate!!!!

By renfro at 12:10 PM ON 10/26/09

What a momumentally stupid move on the part of the writers to kill off Ashley. Do they think this kind of blatant manipulation will gain audience share?

Episodes of the Cabal wrecking global havoc, and torturing one of the main characters, and the payback is that the Cabal is taken down off camera? Are they nuts?

And the awful writing of Eulogy-

Magnus: I kinda think Ashley is alive. Gosh, am I overthinking this, Will?

Will: No. Yes. No.

over and over and over again.

And the producers and writers pulled this ham-handed device just to 'be ballsy' and 'go dark'?

There's a compact between audience and show that the writers and producers violated.

i've had enough.

By renfro at 12:11 PM ON 10/26/09

What a momumentally stupid move on the part of the writers to kill off Ashley. Do they think this kind of blatant manipulation will gain audience share?

Episodes of the Cabal wrecking global havoc, and torturing one of the main characters, and the payback is that the Cabal is taken down off camera? Are they nuts?

And the awful writing of Eulogy-

Magnus: I kinda think Ashley is alive. Gosh, am I overthinking this, Will?

Will: No. Yes. No.

over and over and over again.

And the producers and writers pulled this ham-handed device just to 'be ballsy' and 'go dark'?

There's a compact between audience and show that the writers and producers violated.

i've had enough.

By prsweety at 12:34 PM ON 10/26/09

Keep Ashely...the mother and daughter dynamic was building....get rid of Kate...I don't like her character, and as for the acting, its minimal compared to Amanda Tapping, and Robin Dunne.....BRING BACK ASHLEY

By bayscifi at 1:24 PM ON 10/26/09

Seriously, haven't you people done ANY homework?!? It's all over the web that she's the new sidekick on Dr. Who for the BBC! There's no way she can do both shows.

By jani at 2:17 PM ON 10/26/09

ashley is not on the season 2 promo pics so... :-( maybe she'll be back in season 3.

By wookie at 2:32 PM ON 10/26/09

Ashley has to live. Freelander is too shallow and breaks the "reality" plane of the show.

By Lisa at 2:52 PM ON 10/26/09

bayscifi - that's not Emilie Ullerup on Dr. Who, it's Georgia Moffett.

and just because it needs to be said again:

Save Ashley!

By Rocky89 at 4:29 PM ON 10/26/09

I have to go back to the Daniel Jackson thing, MS wasn't credited in the intro in S6 of SG-1, but he still came back the next season. It's funny because Corin Nemec was listed as a main cast member in S6, but was taken out when MS came back. I know lots of fans missed Daniel, and wanted Jonas to go, but by the start of S7 when MS came back, I'm sure lots of fans missed Jonas and wished he had stayed, because they had gotten used to him. That could happen again with Sanctuary, fans will miss Ashley, want Kate gone and if EU comes back next season, anything could happen. Kate could go, Ashley come back, or they both stay, but I'm sure by then Kate will have some fans. Oh and other example, Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek 3, he wasn't in the opening credits, but still in the movie, for like 5 minutes. But he was back again in the next movie, so you see, dead isn't really dead in Syfy world, and look at Supernatural for another example.

There's two things you should think about when you watch that scene where they find the body in the wall.

1. The fact that wasn't Ashley in the wall gives hope to the fans and Helen that she isn't dead and could come back.

2. If it was Ashley in the wall, we would have less hope she'd be back, and so would Helen. Also, if that was her, it may have given Helen a bit more closure in knowing for sure if her daughter was dead or not, that would have given Helen a definite answer.

So I think that the book is still open and until we know more, there's a chance she could come back.

By gail24 at 4:40 PM ON 10/26/09

Emilie on smallville !! She is still on sancutary too. She is a great actress with so much talent. I think they are trying to work around smallville. I am not a smallville fan and don't know much about the show. I think she will be playing a reporter. I hope she comes back to sancutary full time. She adds alot to the show. The show will be boring without Ashley.

By tammy101 at 9:10 PM ON 10/26/09

They need to bring ashley back. She apart of this show. PLus I have been hearing about her coming back as a clone. I dont think so. That would not be cool, her parents would still think she is dead and nothing would change then. THey need to find a witch or something to bring her back. So I have decided that I will be making a video this week end on why they should bring Ashley Magnus back in the the show Sanctuary for all. Anyone that wants me to add a comment in to the video, please let me know and I will be happy to add it to the video. So please email me at tammyslife101@yahoo.com

let your thought be heard

By Rocky89 at 11:34 PM ON 10/26/09

Tammy, what kind of vid will it be? It isn't going to be a hate/anti vid meant to hurt the cast or creators will it?

By Soitbgns at 1:56 AM ON 10/27/09

I like Emilie Ullerup (Ashley). In the past episode she was the enforcer, but we didn't get to here about her back story. Now with her new abilities. It would be a interesting story of how she can handle more powerful creatures going against the santuary.

By Palinurus at 7:12 AM ON 10/27/09

The problem is that the EMP wiped the brains of all the writers, so they kill off the two most interesting characters and keep the dull ones. A decent show has now turned into Vampires Are Us, and there were enough of those already. Any show that treats its viewers this way does not deserve to survive. The show is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet.

By qwertyu at 9:51 AM ON 10/27/09

You're an idiot Palinurus.

The show's still alive and kicking, in fact Emilie Ullerup will be on Blogtalkradio tomorrow night, Tuesday, at 7:00PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NDBMedia
Ignor that it says it begins at 8:00PM. The automatic messaging of the site is always an hour off.

By Chris at 2:39 PM ON 10/27/09

I cried last night after watching Eulogy. I really miss her. That mother-daughter thing meant a lot to me. I have an idea for getting her back: Super-Ashley got thrown into another dimension, or perhaps the future. That way she can pop up at any time later. Maybe Tesla can build a giant coil gismo and brown-out the city to reel her in. It's like when Captain Kirk got trapped in the other dimension and kept being briefly seen by the crew. This could account for Helen's "feeling" she's still alive.

By Rocky89 at 5:06 PM ON 10/27/09

I've seen the first 3 episodes of S2, it's a GREAT season, and the cast and crew have worked very very hard to make it into what it is today, so I ask you to please, PLEASE don't stop watching it, give it and Kate a chance, if not for her than for Amanda Tapping. Amanda and company have worked very long, and very hard and I'd like nothing more then to see them very well rewarded, in fact, Amanda had to reduce her acting salary, and completely take her producer's salary off the table All for budge constraints, so she's not making what she should. They did that in order to retain their creative control, and if they're ok with it, I'm ok with it. A lot of actors wouldn't want to cut back 2 salaries, and she should be getting a lot more $$$, I mean she's earned and deserves it. Wow, Amanda is such a team player, dying her hair, cutting back her salaries so much for the benefit of the show, I didn't think it was possible, but I love, respect and admire this woman so much more for doing that. It's attitude like that, that always makes a job all that much better.

So I ask you, please don't give up on the show, give it and the new girl a chance, and keep watching it to show your support, it's a great show and one of the only few shows I know of that deserves to go far and succeed. I'm sure Ashley will be back somehow, but don't wait until then to watch the show, your view matters and I encourage you all to watch.

Thanks for reading.

By Deckard at 7:32 PM ON 10/27/09

It's real simple.
Sanctuary + Ashley - Kate = Good Show.
Bring back Ashley, kill off Kate.

By vano75 at 9:55 PM ON 10/27/09

when they gonna go back to 'freak of the week' stories?

By silver at 6:38 AM ON 10/28/09

Let us not forget that after the Cabal changed Ashley and the others, they did not expect Tesla to create a weapon that could shut them down. Its possible Tesla's weapon may have changed Ashley, or charged her body with enough energy to have survived transporting out of the Sanctuary safely.

By willimb1 at 12:46 PM ON 10/28/09

If Ashley goes so do I. I am very tired of getting to like a character then some jerk producer, writer, director deciding the won’t something else.

By qwertyu at 1:25 PM ON 10/28/09

Wow willimb1, you are one sad person. Don't you dare call them names and btw it's "they" not "the" and "want" not "won't". Dumb.

By VJW at 4:05 PM ON 10/28/09

According to Kristin of E!Online, Emilie Ullerup (Ashley) has left the show.

Penelope in York, Pa.: Is Ashley Magnus really dead on Sanctuary?
Sources confirm that yes, Ashley Magnus really died on Syfy's Sanctuary, and that Emilie Ullerup has left the cast of the show. Are you guys bummed to hear that, or are you OK with the change?

By BSMc3591 at 8:41 PM ON 10/28/09

Ashley should live. There are so many reasons she should stay. The family interaction is now gone so they're just running around after abnormals now. How can this be better? I'm going to be bored. If I watch.

By LowTech at 10:43 PM ON 10/28/09

Send Kate down the road. I'd much rather watch a young rebellious/still learning life attitude over a jaded, self-centered, care about nothing but me one. Please.Yeah, Kate brings some story lines in.. ones that have been done to Freakin' Death. I'm a good girl now, Oh! I betrayed you! .. but I didn't.... Pffffff! Bring back Ashley and let HER kill off Kate. I'd watch that...

By car49 at 11:23 PM ON 10/28/09

Ok, I have to contine the commenting. I have read the Kristin from E!online thing and pray that it is not true! I have also seen how IMDB lists Emilie for all episodes, which could just be a trick to keep us confused. I don't know what to think! But I do know that I want Ashley alive and well and back on the show as soon as possible! I also don't like Kate, but I'm willing to give her a chance, maybe. It really upsets me that they just destroy the original cast like that after only one season and then start introducing new cast! We barely had a chance to get used to the original people! Hopefully if the people at SyFy are smart, they will read all these comments and realize what the viewers, who control their ratings and therefore funding, want.

Please bring Ashley back!

By Lisa at 1:07 AM ON 10/29/09

In an interview on BlogTalkRadio, EU just confirmed that she will not be in any more episodes this season and that she would very much like to return in the future. She mentioned that it was in the hands of the fans to let the producers know we would like for her to return.

I think we should continue speaking up until that happens.

By kate15 at 11:39 AM ON 10/29/09

eulogy proves that ashley didn't leave an shes not still in the sanctuary . this makes no sense 2 me , even if she really did die an burst in2 flames how come there is not a small trace of her when magnus is looking for her? so she... just vanished?

i don't mind the character of kate I think her relationship with magnus would be fun but i hope they bring Ashley back . I no they killed her off 4 drama but there was just as much drama when she was like kidnapped an stuff in season 1 :P

the shows better with her than without her :P

By FMAM at 12:13 PM ON 10/29/09

I'm not sure if she should live or die, but I have a feeling that we'll be seeing more of her. The new girl Kate ----- I think that she should die, I can't stand her.

By wdwyer at 7:18 PM ON 10/29/09

I've tried really hard to get into Sanctuary...REALLY, REALLY hard. I just can't. It's super slow pace, coupled with villain of the week syndrome...just killed it for me. Kill who ever you like off the show. I didn't watch it for hot butt-kicking blondes or back talking brunettes. And from what I have seen, I am using TiVo to fast forward most of the slow paced talking and BS (80% of every show) right to the end.

The ONLY episode I enjoyed and watched fully through (including commercials) was "Instinct" from the first season. That is 1 episode out of the 14 I have seen. I am sorry, the show has died for me...I am done.

By BRT at 2:03 AM ON 10/30/09

I must agree with wdwyer. I thought the first season of Sanctuary was poor. The second season is only slightly better. With very few wxceptions, the characters are boring, and there is not any real development of the character.

The action is there , but the plot line is boring. Hopefully it will improve. I wish the show well, but I doubt it will be renewed by NBC/SYFY for another season, without significant changes for the better.

By DaveS at 4:02 PM ON 10/30/09

It's amazing how all of these experienced producers and directors have so much time to debate Sanctuary's strengths and weaknesses on SciFi's website (I will NOT use that illiterate abomination that passes for their new name).


I liked the Ashley character and hope they find some SF-ish way to bring her back. I also like the Kate character, particulary after the third episode of the new season and I hope she is able to stick around and develop further.

I also think Kate is more "smokin' hot" than Ashley and I don't need anyone to tell me about it.

By Josie Hyun at 5:45 PM ON 10/30/09

Let Ashley Live so Kate and Ashley can be Lovers.

By H at 9:54 PM ON 10/30/09

Season 2 was amazing until they killed off Ashley. Honestly, killing off Ashley was bad enough, but Kate is just truly salt in the wound. She is cringe-worthy. (directed at the character; not the actress)

But honestly, since nothing has been said by the writer's or producers, despite the fan outrage, that clearly shows exactly what they think of their fans.

So basically, I am also done just like others have stated above. I don't expect my posting to change anything, but I just hope EU realizes that she was appreciated.

By Carol at 10:10 PM ON 10/30/09

Well it looks like Ashley is gone. I don't have a problem with it because in my opinion the actress wasn't very good. The new character Kate Freelander played by Agam Darshi is fantastic with the added benefit of having good chemistry with Robin Dunne.

By bob at 10:47 PM ON 10/30/09

Kate Freelander = END of Sanctuary!

Could ony make it through half of Sanctuary and I am officially done with the show. Cancelling it out of my DVR.

And I'm sorry, but the actress who plays Kate is as awful as her character......truly sad becase I thought this season was getting good. But one AWFUL character ruined it! Shame on the writers!!!!

By John at 11:04 PM ON 10/30/09

What was the point of going into the backstory of the five and Ashley and then killing most of them off? But even if they can't bring back Ashley (which they should) Please get rid of Kate. She is annoying!

By Rocky89 at 12:43 AM ON 10/31/09

OK, I've heard and read EU's podcast interview, and this is the most important part I believe.-

EU has confirmed that she would like to be on future episodes of Sanctuary, and said it's up to the fans to let TPB know that we want her back. She didn't quit. She also said she'd come back as a regular.

And not only that, but it was made clear somewhere (I forget where) that Syfy, NOT THE CREATORS, NOT AMANDA, NOT DAMIAN, NOT MARTIN, but Syfy itself, the actual network that actually owns the show. So I don't know why people are still bashing our shows PTB, when they should be bashing the people who ordered it.

What I'm trying to make clear is that there's a good chance she'll be back next season, so there's no need for everyone to get mad and what not. Why shouldn't blame Amanda and company, and I think we should take comfort in knowing she might be back next season. But in order for that to happen, we need to support the show and everyone, not bash them. Remember, IF YOU WANT HER IN SEASON 3, YOU NEED TO WANT TO HAVE A SEASON 3! So keep watching, show your support and and lets all just be good fans.

One more thing, if you want to sign a petition, sent e-mails or whatever, you can, just show respect and make your point clear without being mean or threatening to stop watching the show. Make your case, be polite, respectful and that's it. That's what people read. Please, don't show hate.

Thank you.

By bob at 2:26 AM ON 10/31/09

The Kate character makes the show unwatchable. So, I either fast forward through all her scenes or don't watch the show. Simply choosing to no longer to watch rather than fast forward through the whole show.

By James at 3:11 AM ON 10/31/09

You have screwed up another good show by killing off Ashley. You have lost me as a watcher.

By qwertyu at 9:38 PM ON 10/31/09

Oh, and please put it back on you DVR's.

Here's a question, how would you all feel if she came back next season? Would everyone be happy?

By John at 10:02 PM ON 10/31/09

I truly appreciate and respect those who are continuing to watch and enjoy the show. But there are really two separate issues, one, a favorite character being killed off and two is a new character being introduced who I personally find truly annoying.

I understand everyone's point about waiting to see what happens, and see if the character gets better and maybe Ashely comes back. But the bottom line is that EU herself has said she is not coming back this season. If she comes back next season, I would consider watching it again.

But the other issue is Kate, not only is the character awful, but they have made her a main character. If they had introduced her in smaller doses, maybe it wouldn't be so bad, but to just have her be a main character and a member of the team it is just too much. I have always liked AT and usually support her work. So, if things changed, maybe I would watch it again.

If it was just Ashley being killed off, I would have toughed it out. But again, having to sit through the Kate Freelander show each week, sorry guys, I am not wasting the space on my DVR for her.

By qwertyu at 11:09 PM ON 10/31/09

Come on John, don't say that. Don't stop watching it because of Kate, watch it for Helen/Amanda.

Give it one more chance.

By John at 11:20 PM ON 10/31/09

qwertyu I respect your loyalty to the show, I truly do. But like I said, Kate just has too much screen time, and I think her interaction with the other characters is forced. I am literally fast forwarding through so much of the episode that it is just not worth it.

By parker at 11:50 PM ON 10/31/09

i cant believe it they killed Ashley off!!!!!!! she was the only reason i was watching this show. a kick ass, blonde with behavior problems, John u better rip of every single piece off Danas hair, or u can find a way to get back Ashley then kill her, or u can kill everyone watever u want to do. but i have hope that they will bring Ashley back because no one is ever dead in Sci-fi

By Niniel at 3:39 AM ON 11/01/09

Judging from episode 4, Ashley will be gone for at least several more episodes. They are really trying to integrate Kate as a character, hence the plot thread of Kate not betraying the sanctuary and instead feeding the guy to the octopus-thing. This makes me very mad. XP. As someone else said, the show has only existed for like a season, don't take away one of the most main characters so quickly! Kate was a little more hardcore in this episode, but still...

WE SHOULD ALL CONTINUE TO WATCH THE SHOW, AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF ASHLEY. That way, we'll get an Ashley-packed season 3. Also, the main premise of the show and Dr. Magnus are still awesome.

By Niniel at 3:59 AM ON 11/01/09

Please see link below. UPDATE: Random, out of the blue network decision. Time to spam the SciFi channel asking to get her back.

http://brusimm.com/2009/10/30/emilie-ullerup-interview-news-notes-and-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-435

By bob at 7:44 AM ON 11/01/09

Is that article true? EU was having surgery and they let her go? Can anyone confirm? Because if that is the case, I am truly disappointed in the writers and producers. AT included. If that article is true.

By qwertyu at 10:01 AM ON 11/01/09

NO Bob, that's not what happened, let me tell you what happened. I thought that was it at first for like 5 minutes, but then I was told what really happened.

To Bob and everyone else, The The SYFY NETWORK EXECUTIVES, NOT Amanda, or the other producers and writers, but The SYFY NETWORK EXECUTIVES (the guys in charge of the show) made that Ashley dying storyline, then gave it to the show.

Also by point of fact, this was decided and filmed before EU's accident. They finished filming ep 3 in April and she wasn't injured until late May. EU broke her tailbone and had surgery after she left the show, it was all just a coincidence. So you see, it wasn't Amanda's or their fault, The SYFY NETWORK EXECUTIVES made the decision, not Amanda or the others. So please don't blame her or them, it's not their fault, also by point of face in a podcast interview with EU, she said a lot of nice thing about Amanda and she confirmed she'd more than love to come back and rejoin the show next season as a full member, not as a guest.

So you see Bob and everyone, Amanda and the shows PTB isn't to blame, these things just came together, and if you and EVERYONE else keeps watching the show and supporting it, there's a good chance she'll be back and everyone will be happy again. OK?

By H at 6:57 PM ON 11/01/09

While the info above does help to know that AT had no say in EU being let go, it does not change the fact that Kate Freelander is truly AWFUL. And honestly, as long as she remains on the show, I will not watch or support the show. I'm done!

By Shaker at 11:43 PM ON 11/01/09

The first ep after fallout from Ashley's death has a dull B story with Kate and some new random guy on the show, and it's all pretty flat without Ashley. I liked the dynamic that they had last season, I don't think they needed to clutter the cast with random Red Shirt guys with uzi's, Kate, Irish dude and all the rest. I liked Big Guy and Henry as members of this little family. I'm sad to see them change the show's cast so radically, I won't keep watching. I only just discvoered the show and watched all the eps in one go on DVD, but the second season has cooled me on Sanctuary.

By Kay at 1:17 AM ON 11/02/09

The show lacks the lustre of the first season. The split screen tool isn't working for me & the new chick isn't Emilie. On top of that the scripts are lacking & the old focus on Will is gone, they no longer have the intensity of the first year. Frankly, if they don't get it back soon I don't know how much of this I can handle. And have any of you noticed how little we're actually seeing of Magnus & Will. Very disappointing. Hire some decent writers, save money on the split screen.

Kay B. - A very disappointed fan

By qwertyu at 2:24 AM ON 11/02/09

Here we go again.

Yes I am still watching the show and I like this season even more than the last. I also like Kate Freelander and I do not understand all this negativity towards her. Her character is a welcome change to the show. Just because Ashley is no longer a lead character does not mean this show deserves all this hatred. I respect Damian, Martin, and Amanda for the choice they made. Everyone just needs to sit back stop bashing and enjoy the rest of the season. I've read where people want to boycott the sponsors and stop watching Sanctuary all because Ashley was killed off. Talk about stupid!

We HAVE to stop bashing the show, and this Kate girl. We need to rememeber why we love the show, not why we don't like about it right now. We tell ourselves why we love it and why we came to it in the first place, and the more we support it, the better chance Ash will come back, and all will be right.

By H at 8:19 AM ON 11/02/09

qwertyu, I do remember why I loved Sanctuary. And that is exactly why I am no longer watching the show. Because everything that I had enjoyed bout the show is gone. That is great that you like the Kate Freelander character. I personally, do NOT. I find the character so truly annoying that I could no longer watch the show. I don't like the character and I do not like the interactions with the other characters, it seems forced to me.

Bashing an actor or actress is wrong, but there is nothing wrong with stating a dislike for a character or storyline. It is stating an opinion and hoping that someone will hear and do something about.

Take a look at the Syfy forums and see how many people signed up at Syfy, waited for their approval and activation, and posted their hope for Ashley to return, and Kate to be written off. I think that speaks volumes. One person actually listed how many members are in their house, so they could show that by removing Santuary from their one DVR, the show was actully losing four fans.

I understand that it is tense when people have such strong opinions. However, I do not see anything wrong with stating, I don't like this character so I am not watching the show, I truly don't think that's bashing, If I was saying these things about the actor playing the role, that is different. A negative opinion in not necessarily bashing.

By qwertyu at 9:46 AM ON 11/02/09

If you listen to the podcast or just the end of it, DK explain how many variables went into the decision, and I get the impression it's more of a creative decision. EU doesn't hold any ill will toward DK, AT or MW. She knows the nature of the business. She was thankful for the opportunity and the fan base it developed. She may even be able to come back next season.

Obviously Amanda and co. will never say anything bad about the network decision, even if they may think it, because they need their money. And at least AT and Co have enough control that they said they have a cool way of bringing her back some next season. I don't think it's a personnel decision -it's not because EU was bad. It's a creative (storyline decision) - unfortunately for EU, Ashley is the character she plays. And DK himself said-

[I]"Once we know for sure about a third season, there is definitely an Ashley story in there that we're developing, and I think it's very true to what we've done with the character," Kindler said. "The intention was to never kill her off with any finality. It was always to kill her off in a way that was dubious at best and fraught with inconsistencies and fraught with mystery and isn't completely solved even when they have to put her to rest and move on. I didn't want to milk that horse more than three episodes. I think that gave that arc its due, and then we had to move on to business as usual. We only have 13 episodes." [/I]

The BIG bosses wanted Ash gone, but AT and co could still bring her back. I wish you could see the amazing person Amanda is.

By qwetyu at 9:49 AM ON 11/02/09

If you listen to the podcast or just the end of it, DK explain how many variables went into the decision, and I get the impression it's more of a creative decision. EU doesn't hold any ill will toward DK, AT or MW. She knows the nature of the business. She was thankful for the opportunity and the fan base it developed. She may even be able to come back next season.

Obviously Amanda and co. will never say anything bad about the network decision, even if they may think it, because they need their money. And at least AT and Co have enough control that they said they have a cool way of bringing her back some next season. I don't think it's a personnel decision -it's not because EU was bad. It's a creative (storyline decision) - unfortunately for EU, Ashley is the character she plays. And DK himself said-

"Once we know for sure about a third season, there is definitely an Ashley story in there that we're developing, and I think it's very true to what we've done with the character," Kindler said. "The intention was to never kill her off with any finality. It was always to kill her off in a way that was dubious at best and fraught with inconsistencies and fraught with mystery and isn't completely solved even when they have to put her to rest and move on. I didn't want to milk that horse more than three episodes. I think that gave that arc its due, and then we had to move on to business as usual. We only have 13 episodes."

The BIG bosses wanted Ash gone, but AT and co could still bring her back.

By qwertyu at 10:09 AM ON 11/02/09

I forgot to say, so you see, Amanda and company are on our side.

By ashless at 3:12 AM ON 11/03/09

qwetu - you say " We tell ourselves why we love it and why we came to it in the first place". Well, the Ashley character was a considerable factor in that for me. Ashley provided the perfect coutnterpoint to Magnus. Ullerup played Ashley perfectly. She could convey love for Magnus, frustration with Magnus, simplicity in expression and an almost childlike naïveté in the midst of doing considerable damage to the adversaries. I have read some people damning her because she is physically "attractive". Pah. She's a damned subtle actor and gave SANCTUARY some much needed light. The Kate Freelander character has added little to the show (not a slam on Darshi) beyond some plotlines. But her integration into the core members of the Sanctuary has thus far been frustrating and often boring to watch. Ashley generated sympathy in the viewer for the reasons I cited above. It often feels that when Freelander is onscren, I am watching a something other than SANCTUARY.
Also - what is with the split screens? How do they further anything? They feel like the gimmick they are.
Someone somewhere has gotten there hands on a show that was very refreshing and rather trmendous to watch and is now so slowly rigning the life out of it.

By tfgames59 at 11:36 AM ON 11/03/09

As "Rambo" daughter, I didn't like Ashley. I was glad to see her go. But she did look better without the banks & that awful wig.

By tfgames at 11:38 AM ON 11/03/09

As "Rambo" daughter, I didn't like Ashley. I was glad to see her go. But she did look better without the bangs & that awful wig.

By lisa at 12:05 PM ON 11/03/09

tfgames59

Is your eyesight that bad? She wasn't wearing a wig, that was Helen in the webisodes and a little bit in the ep Fata Morgana.

Other than that, personally I liked the bangs too, but it's much better when her hair is back and you can see more of her face. VERY pretty girl, and if you don't think so fine, but don't insult her. It's just rude.

And if you couldn't already guess, I'm in the BRING ASHLEY BACK brigade. As a regular cast member too, nothing else will be good enough.

By qwertyu at 12:42 PM ON 11/03/09

I suspected that Ashley will be killed as soon as the cast pictures for this season were online. Ashley really grew to me during the first season and the character had a lot potential. But as it was said before where were all those EU or Ashley supporters before? I really hope there is a way to bring her back BUT it will not influence if I continue to watch the show or not. I do watch Sanctuary for being a really cool show with a lot potential, there are sooooo many stories to be told and I do watch Sanctuary because I'm completely loyal to Amanda Tapping, she delivers such a great piece of acting... totally awesome.

Ask yourselves this? Is it really worth it to stop watching a show we've all come to love just because Kate Freelander was introduced? - [b]NO[/b], not at all ... I how crazy would it be to stop watching a show which still has such great characters as Magnus, Druit and Henry... which I love to bits and pieces?
And to be honest I was sad to see Ash go at the end of 'Eulogy' but had good laughs in 'Hero', liked the choice to bring Declan MacRae back and even Kate started to grow on me. And I am sorry, but I don't understand how people can really expect Druit or Tesla to be permanent residents at the Sanctuary. Both of them were there for the mission against the Cabal which is obviously done for now, so why should they stick around.

At the end of the day there were obviously more things leading to the choice of killing Ashley... :( and if people would read before they talk and would know a bit more about were Sanctuary came from, they wouldn't insult the producers when the networks are highly involved in the decision making.

[b]SANCTUARY ROCKS!!![/b]

By qwertyu at 12:43 PM ON 11/03/09

I suspected that Ashley will be killed as soon as the cast pictures for this season were online. Ashley really grew to me during the first season and the character had a lot potential. But as it was said before where were all those EU or Ashley supporters before? I really hope there is a way to bring her back BUT it will not influence if I continue to watch the show or not. I do watch Sanctuary for being a really cool show with a lot potential, there are sooooo many stories to be told and I do watch Sanctuary because I'm completely loyal to Amanda Tapping, she delivers such a great piece of acting... totally awesome.

Ask yourselves this? Is it really worth it to stop watching a show we've all come to love just because Kate Freelander was introduced? - NO, not at all ... I how crazy would it be to stop watching a show which still has such great characters as Magnus, Druit and Henry... which I love to bits and pieces?
And to be honest I was sad to see Ash go at the end of 'Eulogy' but had good laughs in 'Hero', liked the choice to bring Declan MacRae back and even Kate started to grow on me. And I am sorry, but I don't understand how people can really expect Druit or Tesla to be permanent residents at the Sanctuary. Both of them were there for the mission against the Cabal which is obviously done for now, so why should they stick around.

At the end of the day there were obviously more things leading to the choice of killing Ashley... :( and if people would read before they talk and would know a bit more about were Sanctuary came from, they wouldn't insult the producers when the networks are highly involved in the decision making.

SANCTUARY ROCKS!!!

By nightmare at 4:03 PM ON 11/03/09

Personally, I have grown to like Ashley. I think it would be a discredit to all if they killed her off already.

By Tim at 5:12 PM ON 11/03/09

This is a quote folks and it is pure baloney.

“To be very honest about it, it was a decision we arrived at with our two major networks in the U.S. and Canada creatively, and we really felt it would have the deepest, most dramatic impact on the series and the characters…“ Damian Kindler

Someone here is sugar coating the truth.

I posted this on another blog but it needs posting here.

I loved season one. I eagerly watched the first three episodes of season two.
I now feel like an idiot for watching. Syfy’s ratings for October were good. We have been played.
It has been over a week and I am still angry.
The only thing that would placate me is Ashley returning permanently. But, that is not going to happen. Season two is in the can. And I bet season three has already been planned and they will tease the viewers with her maybe coming back to get people to watch. I am not going to buy that and it wouldn’t be enough. Therefore, SyFy has been placed on my blocked channels list permanently.
I am no longer going to spend time getting involved with any show on a network that doesn’t respect the viewer.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

By qwertyu at 7:12 PM ON 11/03/09

It's been made clear that they'd like her back in S3, and that SYFY NETWORK EXECUTIVES made the decision.

Those familiar with "Crusade" are familiar with the fact that network execs think they are creative. Network execs should really leave the writing to the writers, IMHO. Besides DK also said-

"Once we know for sure about a third season, there is definitely an Ashley story in there that we're developing, and I think it's very true to what we've done with the character," Kindler said. "The intention was to never kill her off with any finality. It was always to kill her off in a way that was dubious at best and fraught with inconsistencies and fraught with mystery and isn't completely solved even when they have to put her to rest and move on. I didn't want to milk that horse more than three episodes. I think that gave that

By dontknow at 9:57 PM ON 11/03/09

You state Kate's "hot?" I don't find her attractive at all. Ashley was "hot." I'm not sure where you get your standards from. Why do you want to irritate people with Kate and say that is your plan? Are you going to give free groin kicks next and think that will help ratings? A bad decision is a bad decision. This was a bad decision.

By neets at 2:48 AM ON 11/04/09

Keep Ashley. I agree with many who have already commented. Find a great story line to kill off Kate. Also explore more of the feminine, fun, gentle, human side of Ashley. Surely she is more than just a good fighter?

By qwertyu at 10:30 PM ON 11/04/09

It was the NETWORK that order the kill it's why the writers and show producers are so screwed up now with there story board. As to why they want to try and copy Smallville and Hero.

EU said that no one at the studio killed Ashly it was the Network. Now SYFY order the show produce to say it was other reasons it was not.

In part the network SYFY might felt there were to many vampire shows out this year.Anther less popular reason brought up was reverse racism.That there were not enough Minoritys on the show so Switch out the blond blue eye girl then there was Kate.(I do not believe the last myself but if so it was a stupid reason they could of gotten Will's old Girl friend better Actress and original role.)

By Tim at 11:18 AM ON 11/05/09

Network Executives do not make creative decisions about shows. They make decisions based on profitability. They are watching the viewers. It is all about selling advertizing. Who is watching and how many determines how much time they can sell and how much it costs.

They would not cut a main character or actor if it would cost them revenue. On the contrary, they would argue against it. Someone convinced them that Ashley or Emilie was expendable. Kill her off early enough in the season and you can promise to bring her back for an episode next season. There would be some backlash, but most fans would continue to watch and the viewers would be won back eventually. Ashley would be a memory. They wouldn’t even have to bring her back. They could claim schedule conflicts.

As for blame, the executives would gladly take the blame if that would bring back the viewers.

The new character is irrelevant to the decision. New characters are brought in all the time. Writers love that. It opens up new storylines and character development.

So, why was the character killed off? Someone wanted her gone.

Who wanted her gone? Remember, I said network executives make decisions based on money. Unless her demographics were bad they would not risk killing off her character. Were her demographics bad?

Then who?

I googled. Gues what came up?

Sam Egan and Martin Wood are the creative producers.

By Lisa at 2:53 PM ON 11/05/09

What I don't understand is why they would risk losing any viewers at all? What could possibly explain the logic behind that? Did they really think that their "Ballsy" move would attract more viewers? I personally don't know of anyone who has said 'they're not afraid to kill off the main cast on that show, think I'll tune in'. Quite the contrary, most people get pissed off when that happens. If you don't care about the characters, you're not going to watch.

These are supposed to be smart people. Sure, add another character or two if you want, but something about the first season made it successful. It seems to me that it would be smarter to build on that formula rather than change it completely. Lots of people wanted to see more Henry and Tesla and Druitt. Ok, lets see more of them along with the original three. Get deeper in to those already established relationships. Not totally destroy the most important one they have with Helen and Ashley.

And to purposely bring in a new character and make them extremely unlikeable with the promise that we'll all love her by the end of the second season? All at the same time as they're killing off a favorite cast member. Oh, and we never really meant to kill off Ashley, she'll be back NEXT season maybe. It's just crap.

If it makes sense to someone please explain it to me. And no, please don't tell me again to stick with it and trust TPB, because I don't. They gave us a great show and then pulled it right out from under us. What we're left with is a mess.

By qwertyu at 7:46 PM ON 11/06/09

It was the NETWORK that order the kill it's why the writers and show producers are so screwed up now with there story board. As to why they want to try and copy Smallville and Hero.

EU said that no one at the studio killed Ashly it was the Network. Now SYFY order the show produce to say it was other reasons it was not.

Don't blame Amanda.

By #1 ASHLEY FAN at 11:12 AM ON 11/07/09

I loved ashley she is my favorite character keep her please. u goin 2 me mad and im a kid.MEANIES!!!

By H at 2:32 PM ON 11/07/09

It doesn't matter who made the decision to make the change. I don't care about the blame. The point is killing off Ashley and bringing on Kate, who brings absolutely nothing to the show and again, in my opinion is annoying; both of those decisions, for whoever made them, has made the show unwatchable for me.

Ashley may come back is season 3? GREAT
Maybe Kate will be gone is season 3? FANTASTIC!
I will tune in for that season. Until then, I am not helping SyFy's or Sanctuary's ratings. I agree with you Tim, "fool me once".

By John at 1:52 AM ON 11/08/09

Did AD know when she took this job that she was replacing an actress who didn't know or want to be replaced?? I mean I understand that is the nature of the business but still.....

.....karma.

I can honestly say I will NEVER watch anything that AD is in EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

By John at 1:54 AM ON 11/08/09

Oh yeah and she fits her character well......

both are awful!

By Lisa at 9:11 PM ON 11/09/09

To answer your question Kathie, apparently no, she should not be killed off.

before
10/9 --1.85 million viewers
10/16-- 1.766
10/23 --1.694

after
10/30 --1.606
11/6 -- 1.420

SAVE ASHLEY and SAVE SANCTUARY

By qwertyu at 2:43 AM ON 11/10/09

Here's some good news, SGU is more down, I read it's lost 18% of it's viewers. Here's to links to that info-

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/09/maure...-only-one/33088
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/09/frida...son-highs/33070

Some more good news is that Hero earned a 133,000 for it's airing on the Space channel, also the Canadian overnight figures for last Friday:
162,000 (up 21.8%)
Source : TV Feeds My Family

So it's gone up on something, and that's good for obvious reasons, but also because it's a Canadian show.

By qwertyu at 4:06 PM ON 11/10/09

OK, I am going to post a mission post. After seeing ratings for the last episode and the comments left around, I'm starting to get a little worried. Now I know there's lots of you here and all around who want to see this show go onto another season, I'm one of those top people, and I also know there's lots of you who want EU/Ashley back next year. But in order for that to happen we *NEED* to watch the show and support. You want season 3? You want EU in season 3? Let me tell you how to do it.

I've seen a lot of people here start "save Ashley campaigns" or suggested we write letters to the network. Some have suggested we write letters, e-mails the whole nine yards, and I'm glad you all care about the show enough to do all that. You've all shown a lot of passion and energy towards that, but we need to channel it in a more positive way. Yes we should still start campaigns, send letters and e-mails and what not, but we need to do it in a supportive way, like tell the studio or network why we love the show, why we watch, and most importantly, WHY WE WON'T THE SHOW TO STAY ON FOR ANOTHER SEASON OR TWO!!!!

If you want to keep sending letters and e-mails and what not about Ashley like you've been doing so that's fine, if it'll help the show and it's in a positive way I'm all for it, but let's not bash anyone or send any hate in those letters and e-mails, that's not the way to go. Remember, lets NOT show the network why we hate the show, but lets show it why we love it, and why we want to see more of it, and that means Ashley. So I'm saying, let's turn all our passion and energy towards supporting the show and watching it, [b]the more support and fandom we give the show, the more positive letters and e-mails we send, the network will take notice of the positive feedback, they'll see what we the fans want, they'll listen and they will give it to us.

We the fans do have power, but how we use that is up to us. We have the power to bash and throw dirt on the show for what the big Syfy exces did, or we can use that power and show our support for Sanctuary, show our support in the actors, the crew and the writers, and we have to trust that if we can fo that, they will bring it back for another season and Ashley along with it, they want to, but first they need our support to do it. I won't ever give up on the show, I'm here to stay, but just *you* don't give up on it, do the right thing and use your power for good, because only good can come out of it. Thank you.

Here's some things you can also do to support the show-

1. Watch it either live, DVR or both.
2. Write positive feedback letters or e-mails.
3. Watch your shows online too..it Helps!
4. Buy posters and DVDs of!
5. Check the show pages for details!
6. Check out a preview!
7. Leave a comment about the show!

By qwertyu at 11:34 PM ON 11/10/09

Syfy Top 10 most-watched topped by Ghost Hunters Destination Truth and 2012 doom

Rank Shows NET DAY Time Viewers Live+SD (000)
1 GHOST HUNTERS SYFY Wed 09:00P-10:00P 2,730
2 DESTINATION TRUTH SYFY Wed 10:00P-11:00P 1,921
3 2012 STARTLING NEW SECRET SYFY Sun 09:00P-11:00P 1,763
4 STARGATE UNIVERSE SYFY Fri 09:00P-10:00P 1,626
5 GHOST HUNTERS SYFY Wed 08:00P-09:00P 1,606
6 SANCTUARY SYFY Fri 10:00P-11:00P 1,420
7 NYC TORNADO TERROR SYFY Sun 07:00P-09:00P 1,363
8 AMITYVILLE HORROR SYFY Sat 09:00P-11:00P 1,351
9 ECW SYFY Tue 10:00P-11:05P 1,324
10 GHOST HUNTERS

By H at 7:30 AM ON 11/11/09

If season 3 is going to be like season 2 with no Ashley and Kate still on the show, I'm sorry, but then, I DON'T WANT a season 3.

And at this point I am done watching any work by either DK or AD.

By H at 7:32 AM ON 11/11/09

And at this point I am done watching any work by either DK or AD.

By CW at 11:07 AM ON 11/11/09

[quote:] "If season 3 is going to be like season 2 with no Ashley and Kate still on the show, I'm sorry, but then, I DON'T WANT a season 3." [end quote]

I totally agree!! BRING ASHLEY BACK TO THE SHOW!!! we all want her back!!

By qwertyu at 5:51 PM ON 11/11/09

like I've said before.

The SYFY NETWORK EXECUTIVES made the decision, not Amanda or the others. So please don't blame her or them, it's not their fault, also by point of fact in a podcast interview with EU, she said a lot of nice thing about Amanda and she confirmed she'd more than love to come back and rejoin the show next season as a full member, not as a guest.

So you see everyone, Amanda and the shows PTB isn't to blame, these things just came together, and if you and EVERYONE else keeps watching the show and supporting it, there's a good chance she'll be back and everyone will be happy again.

And to be clear DK and company would love to have have her back, and she'd love to come back next season. So there's no reason to be mad. But if we stop watching, it won't happen.

Plus, I read season 3 will be more like season 1.

By H at 7:29 PM ON 11/11/09

I do NOT blame AT. I know she is not at fault in any way shape or form. But the bottom line is that KF is making the show unwatchable. She is truly offensive to me with the things they have had the character do when she was introduced. Add to the fact that Ashley was killed off the show, a character that I liked, and the show is unwatchable for me. Again, I don't blame AT, I think she is great and I feel bad that she is getting less screen time because of KF. Yes, I do blame DK because KF is the character he created and is insisting fans will like KF by the end of the season. So no, I do NOT blame AT, but I DO blame DK and AD and no, I will not watch the show unless Ashley comes back full time and KF is gone.

By qwertyu at 3:08 PM ON 11/12/09

As I said in the other thread, at Haven One (the recent Sanctuary convention), Emilie was asked who her favourite actor on Sanctaury to work with was (by Robin & Chris).

She said Amanda, with no disdain or sarcasm.

There is no 'bad blood' between the two of them at all.

By DPM at 6:34 AM ON 11/13/09

Looking forward to her return at the end of the season like Starbuck In Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck was "dead" until the end of the season when she was a big clifhanger. In future seasons, she becomes the savior. Sci-Fi writers love to parallel the Jesus story.

By sleeper at 3:50 PM ON 11/13/09

Show is lame without her. They should have killed off Will. Kate is boring. The writing is horrible. Will didn't even seem to care when the invisible girl died. The Cabal went from indestructible to dead in one episode.

By qwertyu at 4:08 PM ON 11/13/09

I've been sensing all along that Amanda may be an ally in bringing Emilie back. While DK was using words like 'bold move' and 'strongest move', in her first comment on Ashley's death she said 'it's a ballsy move, we'll see how it plays out.' My first reaction to that was to the ballsy part, but her 'see how it plays out' showed she knew/was worried about the push back. I'm thinking she voted against Ashley's removal but was out voted. Almost immediately though, she was the one that mentioned that she was developing a story arc for Ashley next season. And so bringing back Ashley for 'a bit' may be her way of saying she's trying to bring her back for a while. I've said it before, that, for me, Ashley needs to be brought back as a full regular character, to keep my viewership. And I've seen that it is Amanda that is actively trying to do that.

It makes sense because has talked about how she enjoys working with Amanda, and Amanda said she and EU had a hard time doing those scenes in Eulogy. Actors speak their minds, so if Amanda kicked her out the door, I doubt she'd speak highly of her.

I'm glad you see that she's working on trying to get her back, now if only everyone else would see that. Btw, yesterday I posted that at Haven One (the recent Sanctuary convention), Emilie was asked who her favourite actor on Sanctaury to work with was (by Robin & Chris). She said Amanda, with no disdain or sarcasm. There is no 'bad blood' between the two of them at all.

So you see, With AT on our side to bring Ashley back, let's help her along and keep up the noise. One of her best arguments to bring her back will be the campaign started by the fans of Ashley. Also I heard the cabal will be back.

By Niniel at 11:12 PM ON 11/13/09

BRING ASHLEY BACK!
BRING ASHLEY BACK!
BRING ASHELY BACK!

Lemme put it this way, in a show as dark as this, you HAVE to have some humor, if irreverent morbid humor, otherwise the show just seems monotonous and emo. There is nothing wrong with being all dark and edgy, I like it and am happy to see a darker Sanctuary, but constant emo-ness makes the emotion seem fake and over-acted.
BRING ASHLEY BACK
BRING ASHLEY BACK
BRING ASHLEY BACK!

By DStark at 1:59 PM ON 11/15/09

To borrow an expression from another SF series, qwerty's suggestions above are highly illogical.

Watching the show in hopes that the "suits" at SissyFy will somehow undo their mistake is tantamount to rewarding bad behavior. If they are making economics-based decisions about program story arcs, then those who disagree with them should make them pay for the error in lost ratings and lost ad revenue.

Begging everyone to keep watching and recording is counter-productive and sounds like an insider plot to keep a now less-popular show alive despite network meddling.

The audience should do what it always does in the entertainment market and vote with its feet (or DVRs and remotes).


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