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What Wolverine's creator wants to see in the next movie

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Wolverine creator Len Wein approves of setting a sequel film in Japan and exploring a different side of the character.

"Just exploring the character more," Wein told SCI FI PI, The SCI FI Channel Australia Blog. "The Japanese story, if that's where they're going—and I imagine that is where they're planning to go—is the perfect next choice. Gives you a whole different side of the character. And that allows you to explore aspects that haven't been explored on film so far. You know, the noble warrior, as opposed to the berserker."

The blog sat down with Wein in Beverly Hills, Calif., to discuss just how to spot a decent comic-book movie and what it's like trying to handle Dave Gibbons and Alan Moore as the editor of Watchmen. Check out the entire interview below.

You can get X-Men Origins: Wolverine on DVD and Blu-ray now.

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By SighFyeGuy at 6:39 PM ON 10/16/09

I'm all for exploring his character, which will be a little difficult given that the end of the first movie left him a blank slate, but there better be some Silver Samurai action too! lol

By Muldfeld at 6:42 PM ON 10/16/09

Yeah, and I'd also ensure a non-cliche script that wasn't dumbed down to every aspect found in formula Hollywood scrpts. Seriously, the 1992 cartoon did more justice to the character and revealed more trauma from the adamantium bonding. This was an insulting waste of my time and I'm shocked that a seemingly smart and artistic man like Hugh Jackman would produce something so awful. Get rid of the crappy screen writers and the crappy director. Make this an adult film with texture and interesting dialogue in addition to a good and innovative plot; some moral ambiguity would be good, too, instead of making Wolverine's choices so predictable and easy. Some sophistication is what I want, for crying out loud. More "The Dark Knight" than J.J. Abrams.

By GlowGoBoy at 8:27 PM ON 10/16/09

Would be fun to see Jubilee!! :) She was always a favorite.

By Cyrus at 9:13 PM ON 10/16/09

okay, somebody tell me when we've ever seen Wolverine as "the berserker"? i don't remember this. the films have ever only presented him as "the noble warrior." noble in the form of doing the right thing in his own way for sure, but noble nonetheless. i've yet to see "the berserker." i've been waiting to see "the berserker." in fact he was more noble in the last film than ever before. this news is seriously annoying.

By Red Mask at 10:03 PM ON 10/16/09

I always thought of the Japan story as inherently Logan's own personal story. It has nothing to do with his life as an X-Man. That means no Omega Red and no Jubilee. And definitely no Deadpool.

By bladerunner101 at 2:42 AM ON 10/17/09

i, also would like to see more back story. im not familiar of the earlier character known as wolverine from prior to late 80s. ive just heard a few whisperings from things that were at times rehashed. i would dearly love to see a deeper, grittier stories and filming for crying out loud a comic is a comic and a movie is a movie it si possible to give the fan base more please dont kiddify these movies.

By nate9111 at 5:50 AM ON 10/17/09

Look you had your chance and FOOKED it up. Let it go just stop

By PALADIN at 12:31 PM ON 10/17/09

I would hope that they learn from past mistakes and make the next movie ( and YES, there should be another Wolverine film--I don`t subscribe to the puerile disgruntled fan-boy 'had your chance, blew it' attitude) .


What the fans want is quite simply: A WOLVERINE MOVIE.

Not a 'let`s-see-how-many-characters-we-can -cram-onscreen-for- marketing-development-and-call-it-a Wolverine Movie'

As it`s beeen said to Wolverine: '"It`s always about you, isn`t it?"

Well, in a Wolverine movie; it Damn Well should be about Wolverine.

By Rom2099 at 3:29 PM ON 10/17/09

The movie was "dumbed down" to make it accessible to kids AND to a wide audience who do not read comic books. There are maybe 100,000 people who read Wolverine comics monthly, at $10 per ticket, the movie would only gross $1,000,000 if it were written for them. One day comic book nerds (me) and Trekies (me), etc. will understand that they're NOT the core audience of a given product. Hence, movies in this genre are having to be written, etc for the broader audience in mind. I'm not trying to justify all the choices made with Wolverine, but keep in mind the economics of making the film: they want it to appeal to the OTHER 99.5% of the viewing audience, not the niche fanatic group who read funny books.

By Chris at 3:51 PM ON 10/17/09

Rom, I get that these movies aren't made for the nerds, however, it was the nerds that made them a viable property in the first place and convinced some suit to mass produce it for general audiences.

Plus, when you make a movie based on a book, a play or anything else, people pay suck loving attention to be faithful yet no such afforded to comic nerds.

Frankly, it sucks.

By Chris at 3:51 PM ON 10/17/09

Rom, I get that these movies aren't made for the nerds, however, it was the nerds that made them a viable property in the first place and convinced some suit to mass produce it for general audiences.

Plus, when you make a movie based on a book, a play or anything else, people pay such loving attention to be faithful yet no such afforded to comic nerds.

Frankly, it sucks.

By MeMe at 4:40 PM ON 10/17/09

"exploring a different side of the character'

WTF, after that last awful movie it would be something akin to exploring the corn from floating objects left in a toilet. Stop the bleeding dude, that movie SUCKED!

By Rom2099 at 4:56 PM ON 10/17/09

Chris, I affectionately call you a "nit". Wolverine (the comic book) sells about 100,000 copies, Harry Potter sold 400 Million, JAWS sold 10 Million in the initial release in the USA. (etc etc etc). You do the math. Which property should adhere more to the "source material" and which property is a good frame work to expand on to broaden the audience? Obviously novels have a HUGE base audience so a more strict adaptation is warranted, comic books (and I've collected since 1976) have almost no audience, just a good sampling of the population and hence a viable bet for a property that should draw a crowd -- but it still needs to be molded to fit the broader audience. Some times studios get it right, sometimes they miss the mark. Iron Man -- hit it. Punisher - not so much. I agree that some properties like Wolverine should stick more to the source -- but let's look at that "source" -- um, Wolverine is supposed to be 5'5" tall, 20 years old and claws that come out of his gloves (original Hulk appearance), this changed in the X-Men under Claremont and Byrne, then Claremont really screwed the character up by making him a ninja (with Frank Miller) and it basically falls apart from there. Bone claws?!?!? WTF. So which version of Wolverine are the film makers supposed to stick closely to? But I digress. The film makers made choices. Like 'em or lump 'em.

By diesel at 5:25 PM ON 10/17/09

Definitely looking forward to the next Wolverine movie. Hollywood should realize by now that the best super hero movies are the ones that stay true to the source material.

Examples: Iron Man, Spiderman 1 and 2 and the most recent Hulk movie.

If they make a great story the next Wolverine will be a hit. Hugh Jackman is one of the best actors out there. He definitely makes a better Wolverine than Christian Bale does Batman.

I tired of hearing people compare movies to Dark Knight. When Dark Knight should have been a whole lot better than it was.

You also have to realize that Wolverine did worse than it should have because the film was leaked. The Dark Knight did better than it should have because of Heith Ledger's untimely departure.

If you watch Dark Knight again you will see the many mistakes in that movie, especially the whole last 20 or 30 minutes that should have just been cut from the film.

Wolverine was entertaining. It was a B movie. Dark Knight was only slightly better as a B+ movie. Both are different types of movies so they are hard to compare.

Iron Man and Spiderman were A movies and should be used as the standard.

By Imagica at 6:32 PM ON 10/17/09

It was Chris Claremont and John Byrne who made Logan, Logan. In fact it was those two that made the first Wolverine miniseries that took place in Japan adding to the character. Len Wein had nothing to do with that. Sheesh.

And Joe Quasada and Donner X-Films to screw him up.

By ryan23 at 9:49 PM ON 10/17/09

I hope they go for more of him walking away from explosions looking pissed off toward camera. I NEED to know more of the psycology behind that. Also, I NEED to poop right now.
Also, I liked Chris' post better with "suck loving".

By Jason B. at 10:04 PM ON 10/17/09

There's a lot of talk in the comments about staying close to the source material. OK, I'll grant that. It can really help a movie out (imho) to stick close to the source, and fill out as needed.

But...consider what you're asking the writers to do with this (or any) comic book character. Comics tend to get heavily ret-conned. Timelines cross over themselves multiple times. Multiple universes. Multiple comic storylines that don't necessarily follow each other. And a dozen different origin stories for any given character (not to mention bloodlines and siblings).

It's a wonder that a movie writer can make any sense of it at all!

By bladerunner101 at 12:55 AM ON 10/18/09

yeah have to agree bone claws were a crap idea. i was reading the comic at the time and i think that was the last straw for me. id been happy if they pulled his adamantium outa him weakend his healing mutation. that woulda left them room to grow the character that had become pivital and i think over powered. there was no room for development of his character but downfall. something to get writers to bring forward dormant characters. i would really pay to see a wolverine movie that omitted... hell i want to see a good follow up movie. a GOOD one.

By ThatGuy at 12:00 PM ON 10/18/09

Mr. Wein is probably excited because he has made more money than he has ever seen as a comic book writer. So, it is not surprising he is excited about another film.

That being said, the Wolverine movie was so pointless, artless, and insultingly dumb it is amazing that anyone with writing ability participated in that abortion of a script. It was filled with every single copied convention of action movies from the last 20 years.

To think that ANOTHER, horrible, Wolverine movie is in the works makes me want to vomit. There have been some excellent superhero movies recently and it is a shame that those people who made this embarrassment of a film are being rewarded.

By Mikejake at 10:30 AM ON 10/19/09

Why are you guys keep going on and on about "bone claws"? Where the heck do you think his claws came from in the first place? I don't remember them "implanting" claws into him when then infused him with adamantium, unless I missed that issue. The only problem I had with those was that his claws look like knives, but his bone claws were round.

On the topic of comparing Harry Potter sales to Wolverine. Comic books come out once a month, sometimes with mini series and special by-weekly issues. Novels come out maybe once every 2 or 3 years.

By aynatal2000 at 11:13 AM ON 10/19/09

Why do so many nit pick over the wolverine movie? It was a good adventure and it did stay close to the source material for Logan.He did have bone claws ... that was his mutation as a child - later came the adamantine,Japan and his weapon X days as an adult.That wads all part of his back story in the comics.While the Origins movie wasn't perfect it left many wanting more ...and therefore there will be chances to improve.


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