

In Roland Emmerich's upcoming global demolition derby movie 2012, the director gets to indulge his passion for destroying landmarks on a world scale.
In previous movies, he's destroyed the Empire State Building and the White House (Independence Day), sent a giant monster into the middle of Manhattan (Godzilla), blown away the famous Hollywood sign and the Capitol Records building in Los Angeles (The Day After Tomorrow) and savaged New York again by flooding and then freezing it (also The Day After Tomorrow).
In 2012, he takes on landmarks in Rome, Rio de Janeiro and, yes, Washington, but there is one place even he couldn't bring himself to obliterate. We caught up with Emmerich in Jackson Hole, Wyo., where he told us why he chose various landmarks to lay waste in 2012, and about the one that got away.
"I always like I think when it feels very new and original," Emmerich said, adding: "Landmarks are always symbols, just symbols. ... They stand for something."
Herewith Emmerich's favorite landmarks destroyed in 2012 and the one he couldn't blow up (click on the images for larger versions). 2012 opens Nov. 13.
The White House
Obviously.
This time around, he has a giant wave striking it. A wave carrying the aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy.
"I think my favorite in this one is like the White House destruction," he said. "I didn't want to go there again, and [co-writer/producer] Harald [Kloser] pretty much convinced me that I have to. And then I was brooding for days and days and days, and then I kind of had the idea: ... I've got JFK kind of coming back to the White House, which I thought was ironic."
The Poseidon
Well, not really. It's a cruise ship that rolls over much like the ill-fated ship from The Poseidon Adventure and its recent remake.
"The most striking image for me of any disaster movie was when the ship in Poseidon Adventure rolls over," Emmerich says. "I pay homage to that. ... For me it's always the most striking image of all the disaster movies. Because it's a really big object that rolls over."
The Sistine Chapel in the Vatican
That includes the famous frescoed ceiling by Michelangelo depicting Adam touching fingers with God.
"I always try to come up with what makes sense for the story, you know?" Emmerich says. "And it's not only about the destruction. It has to kind of stand for something. One of my favorite pieces of art is Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel: ... God ... reaches out to Adam, and the crack goes through it. It's just an interesting kind of notion."
St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican
"Why ... don't [we] have the church fall on people's head?" Emmerich said. He added: "The whole Vatican kind of tips and kind of rolls over the people. It said something, because in the story, some people ... believe in praying and prayer, and they pray in front of the church, and it's probably the wrong thing, what they would do in that situation."
Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro
"Because I'm against organized religion," Emmerich says.
The one that got away
Emmerich said that he got approached by people who wanted their landmarks destroyed, such as the 101 Tower in Taipei, the world's tallest building (pictured below).
But Emmerich was thinking of something even more explosive: the Kaaba, the cube-shaped building at the heart of Mecca, the focus of prayers and the Islamic pilgrimage called the Hajj; it is one of Islam's holiest sites.
Really?
"Well, I wanted to do that, I have to admit," Emmerich says. "But my co-writer Harald said I will not have a fatwa on my head because of a movie. And he was right. ... We have to all ... in the Western world ... think about this. You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is. So it's just something which I kind of didn't [think] was [an] important element, anyway, in the film, so I kind of left it out."
By Stone at 11:11 AM ON 11/02/09
Wuss.
By malohombre at 11:16 AM ON 11/02/09
That's kind of ironic.He says he's against organized religion but scared of a fatwa on his head by a religion.It sounds more like he has a problem with christianity.How many people can even pick emmerich out of a line up anyway . He thinks he's that Rushdie guy or what?
By KerrAvon at 11:20 AM ON 11/02/09
Hey wait a minute, I though Islam was "The religion of peace"?
By tekkblade at 11:27 AM ON 11/02/09
So if I don't want my religious landmark virtually destroyed I have to regularly threaten to kill anyone that even looks at them in a manner i don't like.
By Mechagamera at 11:49 AM ON 11/02/09
He is against organized religion? I thought he was just against a coherent plot...
By Ric17 at 11:55 AM ON 11/02/09
Cannot blame him really. When it ultimately comes down to it, the rest of the religions can pretty much handle it. The Islam extremists and even some of the moderates cannot handle even the smallest references to their belief as if the world will come crashing down (no pun intended with the movie we are speaking about here). It really wouldn't surprise me if there was an outrage if he "destroyed" one of the Muslim structures/symbols. The devote followers of Islam might grow up and join the rest of us in the 21st century someday....
By WVTreker at 12:00 PM ON 11/02/09
@Mechagamera- LMAO! Excellent!
Roland is like most anti-religious bigots, he'll easily attack Christianity or Judaism but kowtows to Muslims. I can't blame him, Christians and Jews are ones to strap bombs to there kids and send them out to blow up non-believers. Hey Roland, if you're really anti-religion, get some nerve and go after everyone! Wuss.
By Marvelous M at 12:05 PM ON 11/02/09
For pete's sake people. Just because he doesn't like organized religion doesn't me he can't be more pragmatic in deciding which icons to destroy. Public opinion holds islam in general as being more militant, if he'd rather be safe than sorry in deciding whether to destroy one of their sacred relics in a movie, that's his decision, but it doesn't make him a wuss.
On another note, I hate the captchas on the site. Maybe I'm a spambot, because it always takes me a few tries...
By jdmimic at 12:06 PM ON 11/02/09
I think Emmerich is absolutely right and people who call him a wuss are jerks and ignorant. Christians for the most part may not like a holy building destroyed, but they accept it as a movie and are not likely to try to kill the guy, even though they may protest about it. But when even cartoonists get death threats (and more) for portraying Muhommed at all, much less in a negative light, Emmerich is just being sensible and watching out for himself and his crew. It doesn't matter that most Arabs or Muslims are not that way, the plain and simple truth is that there are those who resort to this sort of terrorism in the name of their religion. The Christian terrorists tend to go after abortion doctors or government people. The Islamic terrorists have tended to target private symbols or secularism far more commonly.
By tekkblade at 12:21 PM ON 11/02/09
If the rest of the world, as in people that don't do the whole religious zealot thing, would stop worrying about offending previously mentioned religious zealots then maybe they wouldn't use car bombs as a means of religious expression.
Side note, Mechagamera, NICE!
By darkstrad at 12:25 PM ON 11/02/09
did you all even read the article? he wanted to destroy it, his co-writer wouldn't let him.
By tekkblade at 12:27 PM ON 11/02/09
Wouldn't let him out of fear. So much for the nothing to fear but fear itself quote.
By cyaegha at 12:55 PM ON 11/02/09
It's not that he is afraid of Islam, it's that he's... cautious of extremists. As a traveler, I count Muslim countries as absolutely wonderful. The people, indeed even the governments, are quite nice. But folks, I have also counted my biggest scares when confronted by extremists. And I don't blame the man one bit.
By nilus at 12:58 PM ON 11/02/09
The only Muslims that would have a problem with its destruction would be the crazed zealots who hate all things in the west. They are a small but vocal minority. The problem is that they will preach how evil it is to people living in poverty in villages that have no electricity, let alone movies and then these people will organize ignorant protests.
Just like the Muhammed comics. The educated, modern Muslims might have been slightly offended but they were not death threats. Its the Zealots and the ignorant masses that are the problem.
By limey at 1:06 PM ON 11/02/09
You mean you can destroy the "The Sistine Chapel in the Vatican", "St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican"and "Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro" but not any Islamic icons. Are you nuts? What is wrong with this Country when everything goes except the islamics and muslims?
I was looking forward to seeing this movie but now it is on my sh** list.
By Alverant at 1:30 PM ON 11/02/09
@limey, are you saying that christians should be even more violent and hateful when their religion doesn't get special treatment? The co-writer was scared of extremists. And extremists aren't just restricted to islam. Remember the Golden Compass movie? The christian extremists got huffy about that too and yes, there were death threats.
By Kevin at 1:42 PM ON 11/02/09
The are "death threats" when the president eats beef in public. But nobody is setting off bombs. Yet. If you cave to extremists who set off bombs, then you will get more extremists setting off bombs.
By Mandor at 1:45 PM ON 11/02/09
yep cause that's gonna make the difference with people who would obey a fatwa? "I claim this plane in the name of Allah!" "wait! i'm roland emmerich, i made 2012. I didn't destroy Mecca out of respect" "oh yeah, that's right you didn't....hey guys, we gotta talk" "can't blow up the plane, cause emmerich is here and there's no fatwa on him" "OK FOLKS, NEVERMIND"
By Fedaykin at 1:54 PM ON 11/02/09
He's absolutely right, but he's still a wuss for leaving it out. If he'd put it in right along with all the Christian symbols being destroyed and there had been an angry backlash it would only have served to illustrate the arrogant hypocrisy of the Muslim world.
btw, I am also against organized religion.
By Jason at 1:56 PM ON 11/02/09
Yep, I agree, he was a wuss. I mean so what, he'd get a fatwa on his head. He's only going to have to escape getting killed for 3 years anyway and Salmon Rushdie has managed to stay alive for decades.
What? Roland, you mean the world might not end in 2012??? Huh?
By Iso at 1:57 PM ON 11/02/09
Perhaps Emmerich should have destroyed ONLY religious buildings and landmarks - from each religion, one after another - thus adding a bit of much needed subtext into his lame looking film.
Oh well...never mind.
By anachronite at 2:13 PM ON 11/02/09
what a girly man. who cares what the terrorists think. Your playing right into their hands by being afriad of them. We should all boycott this movie!!!!!!
By limey at 2:30 PM ON 11/02/09
@Alverant- I did not see the golden compass. but this guy seems like a closet muslim to destroy all the other landmarks and leave the muslim one alone.
By Blastphemy at 3:51 PM ON 11/02/09
I think Emmerich should have destroyed ALL Islamic sites...for real! lol! When one has cancer, one must obliterate even some good cells to clear oneself of the malignant ones.
By JT at 4:46 PM ON 11/02/09
This is simply playing to azzholes. And f**k Roland Emmerbitch. I won't see this film now (or any other film this Muslim loving monkey nad sucker directs!)
SO TODAY, We tip-toe around Muslim subjects like laying Meccha to waste, yet it is ok to kill Catholics (as seen by several people running from the buildings only to be crushed by debris) WTF is going on here? When did these idiots start running the world? OH yeah, When they started blowing shit up [and killing] in the name of their religion.
Well, what comes around, goes around.
By JT at 4:50 PM ON 11/02/09
BTW; Since when is the Islamic religion NOT organized?
Crikie, they are 100 times more organized the the Catholic church ever was.
By Mumbo at 5:17 PM ON 11/02/09
Who's this Roland Emmerich dude anyway?
By Cris at 5:18 PM ON 11/02/09
I'd be more worried about the people who plunk down $10 to see this piece of trash when they realize they're watching yet another piece of disaster porn and rise up to demand their money back.
By Edmond at 6:02 PM ON 11/02/09
Of course Islam is a religion of peace! BEHEAD anyone who says otherwise!
By Rick at 6:38 PM ON 11/02/09
Hollywood is run by "WUSSES"
By wildbuf at 7:25 PM ON 11/02/09
The studio never would have let him do it anyway. They want to show the movie in Islamic countries$$$
By these hollyweird clowns are the worst kind of cowards at 8:50 PM ON 11/02/09
What a POS this anti-Christian anti-American bigoted idiot is. Typical facist hollywood moron using his 'art' to spread his stupid political propaganda & to bash on everyone he hates. Just more of the same old tepid hypocritical arrogant narcissitic elitism from the enlightened hollyweird collective! I hope this stupid movie crashes and burns to cinders at the BO and this petulant hypocritical coward follows along the same path very soon.
Thats right emmerich you coward, go ahead & pick on the Christians some more since you know all they will do in response is pray for your soul all while you continue to protect the enemies of the free world who routinely rape and murder innocent women that those same Christians are trying to protect as well as murdering anyone else that disagrees with their insanity! Try going to live with that islamofacism you are so afraid to denouce like the Christians that are persecuted in iran who you so willfully bash. They live around these vile terrorist cowards every day and do so while standing strong in their faith with little help from the world community except of course from the usual source, specifically speaking America. You are as much of a vile coward as they are and the only thing worse than islamofacist collaborators like you is the whole community of evil like minded cowards you belong to that award each other to spew the same garbage that you do in your lame movies. BTW.. To the idiot that actually wrote 'christian terrorists' in a serious f*cking sentance man you are beyond stupid and ignorant right into the realm of retarded and insane! Post some examples of ALL THESE so-called Christian terrorist incidents from independant sources meaning not from the usual far left liberal nut job websites whackjobs like you live on like media matters and the daily kos. To make it clear abortion doctors.. your ohh soo wonderful saintly and loving beings that puncture the skulls of developing BABIES and suck out their brains with a hose or incinerate them with acid.. having hardly ever been attacked by anyone much less christian affiliated people DO NOT qualify as terrorist incidents, especially when compared to the utter destruction that islamofacism has brought to the world for well over a millenia.
By damamamam at 8:51 PM ON 11/02/09
Durka durkah durka mohammad JIHAD!!!! Durka durka!
By REDante at 8:57 PM ON 11/02/09
Yeaaaaaa, the muslim culture is very peaceful and honerable. Speaking of honor, congrats to the father who ran down his daughter for being too "westernized" and killing her. Way to bring peace and honor back to the family.
By this guy must be up for obambo's new religion czar position at 9:10 PM ON 11/02/09
Alverant you are a serious fuc^kin tool! LOL Really?? Comparing a few supposed death threats called in over a CLEARLY anti-christian movie to actual LEGITIMATE WORLDWIDE ISLAMIC TERRORISM?? OH GOD you must be off your damned meds!! F*ckin clowns like you are the reason liberal democrats are laughed at now the WHOLE WORLD OVER and why they will loose everything come election time next year. I say GOOD RIDDENCE ITS ABOUT TIME! Time for this country to get serious about getting rid of as$sholes like emmerich and his facist muzzie loving buddies.
By Round and Round and Round at 9:46 PM ON 11/02/09
Considering that this movie will probably never be seen in any islamic country except for maybe a bootleg copy what difference does it make?
So the whole world blows up except for the islamic religious sites? Does that mean that Allah is actually in charge? Since this movie is based on Mayan legend I think it's the Mayan sites that should survive.
Screw the Muslim extremists. Mecca should have been the first one shown being destroyed.
By Red Mask at 11:51 PM ON 11/02/09
Why not just show the destruction of the temples in Jerusalem? Many religions lay claim to that area.
By John Duncan Yoyo at 1:33 AM ON 11/03/09
Okay but when an Ayatollah issues a Fatwa for his failing to consider Mecca worthy of displaying its destruction in his film won't he feel silly.
By iwillHATEsyfy at 2:07 AM ON 11/03/09
Just to mention to all those citing islam as having nothing but fanatic extremists...
who has been bombing abortion clinics in the US?
what fiath did david quresh (sp) prescribe to?
don't drink the kool-aid...
how many harry potter books were burned? and who burned'em?
to all those citing islam as a religion of peace, ironically, i will close with this: let he who is without sin cast the first stone
By xfiler93 at 3:44 AM ON 11/03/09
So sick of Hollywood and the cowards that reside there. Okay to defame christianity, but when it comes to anything Muslim, hands off! Cowards
By Gallowglass at 4:36 AM ON 11/03/09
The problem is that except for the extremists in the anti-abortion fight, Christians haven't murdered anybody for disrepcting their religion in years. Unfortunately, Muslim's have had their extremists and some main stream portions calling for death sentences in all sorts of situations and they are not above esuring that they are enforced.
About the only reason imho that Rushdie has survived is that there are a number of clerics who said he did nothing wrong. Even so, the fatwa was serious enough for Great Britain to provide him with security since that point.
By Anonymous at 5:18 AM ON 11/03/09
Anyone who calls Emmerich a wuss/coward because of this is an idiot.
Which planet have you guys been living on for the last 10 years?
So what if "only the extremists" are violent? If someone gets killed because he expressed an opinion that those extremists didn't like, WTF should he care if there's a billion muslims who, well, probably maybe wouldn't have pulled the trigger themselves?
By malohombre at 8:06 AM ON 11/03/09
maybe he should've used puppets like the ones in Team America. Trey Parker and Matt Stone blew up landmarks and went after everybody,they're still around. Dirka Dirka!! So ronrey!!
By Crusader at 8:38 AM ON 11/03/09
Hey, iwillHATEsyfy
Last I checked Christian extremists were not issuing fatwahs against Rowling, or threatening death to Emmerich for destroying Christian symbols.
The brain-dead, head-in-the-sand left always use this argument but a little bit of logic and common sense pops that bubble.
By JK at 9:15 AM ON 11/03/09
Marvelous wrote "Public opinion holds islam in general as being more militant..." - are you kidding???
Remove militant and replace with any or all of the following:
insane
idiotic
foolish
uneducated
fanatical
hateful
closed-minded
... I could go on and on...
By LiberalKilla at 1:27 PM ON 11/03/09
If he doesnt want to destroy Islamic landmarks because of supposed death threats thats fine but then he cant be a hypocrite and destroy christian landmarks because they're peaceful....you cant allow people to get what they want through violence and threats.....so if christians sent him death threats he wouldnt destroy their landmarks is basically what he's saying....it should be the exact opposite if anything.....reward people who are peaceful and mature (not bash them in a big budget movie infront of the world) and go after those who arent....the same people who agree with this nutjob director are the same people who gave up their lunch money to bullies when they were younger instead of standing up to them....i just thank god america isnt made up of more of you (but our leaders are)
By surfdude at 2:04 PM ON 11/03/09
Man what a two-faced wuss. Obviously his bias against the Christian faith is CLEARLY on display here. Mega world disaster isn't gonna discriminate between landmarks of separate faiths. Clearly he has an agenda but hides behind the camera with it like a baby. Who gives a *&$& about a fatwa when standing up for your beliefs. Nevermind he'll borrow liberally (no original thought!) the whole flood disaster/ark rescue from the Christian/Jewish Old Testament.
By Bradachin at 3:54 PM ON 11/03/09
;-) Look at my picture of Mohammed, oh no, guess I get a fatwa now.
By MartiniShark at 5:35 PM ON 11/03/09
This is typical spineless activism.
Attack those groups you know won't retaliate and lay off those who could be dangerous. No different than a playground bully who picks on the wimpy kid and runs when someone stands up to him.
The gay activists in L.A. have protested the Mormon church for preaching against homosexuality but have been silent with Muslims who give even more strident preachings.
Most of those who rail against Christianity's violent history are the same ones who hear contemporary opposition to terrorism and declare we cannot judge an entire religion. Larry David will piss on a painting of Jesus but does anyone think he will defile an image of a Muslim icon? Seriously doubt it.
Nut-up Rollie. If you want to attack organized religion then take it all on, or else you look like an impotent crank.
By tiredofit at 9:53 PM ON 11/03/09
Just for further info, even most Moslems hate those extremists for ruining what being a Moslem really is. And a lot of them became victims too from the blind, ruthless actions that those extremists do in the name of (false) belief.
*shrugs*
I'll just watch the movie for the nice visual effect.
By qzhyp at 1:54 AM ON 11/04/09
Who cares? F**K the Muslims, and F**K their fatwa.
By Lara at 2:19 AM ON 11/04/09
@ qzhyp .... don't rush and say stupid words :) ... dear all nothing is upsetting, its an entertainment movie ... and its all about respecting the Muslims most holy places and because its for entertainment and eating popcorns in the end there is no need for getting annoyed ... and the director doesn't want any headache ;)
By shiraz at 2:20 AM ON 11/04/09
well being a muslim..i do believe he did the right thing because of all the sensitivity and religious and political affairs and issues the world is in right now....it would have been something astonishing but there will always be some issues in this world which will remain in that grey zone...but hands off to Emmirich for making some amazing movies and this 2012 seems a great one also.
By Lara at 2:20 AM ON 11/04/09
@ qzhyp .... don't rush and say stupid words :) ... dear all nothing is upsetting, its an entertainment movie ... and its all about respecting the Muslims most holy places and because its for entertainment and eating popcorns in the end there is no need for getting annoyed ... and the director doesn't want any headache ;)
By jay at 2:33 AM ON 11/04/09
its about playing safe and not being stupid..just because he doesn't want a fatwa or death warrant from a religious nut out there doesn't make him a pu$$y.
By Red Mask at 4:30 AM ON 11/04/09
So why not just show the destruction of Jerusalem since so many religions lay claim to that area. Or how about the Mosque of Djenne? It's one of the oldest mosques in Africa but heck if anybody cares about that place.
By ZEE at 4:41 AM ON 11/04/09
I like how these uneducated people come on international media and try to disentegrate society. Its not the terrorists that are the treat, its those like Roland who subtly suggest controversies. An example, he calls Christianity an organised religion, implying that Islam is spontaneous/Terroristic. And THEN calls the Kaaba an 'Arab' symbol. These people need to go back to school and learn the difference between RACE AND RELIGION. And to JDMIMIC those cartoons portrayed Muhammed as a terrorist and murderer. What would you do if a cartoon appeared depicting Jesus having sex with Mary Magdalene?
By FES at 4:49 AM ON 11/04/09
Is he gonna destroy the Jewish Western Wall in Israel??
By Popthetime at 4:49 AM ON 11/04/09
To all the haters of Islam, read the recent news about this small baby in Chechnya who is getting the holy verses of Quran being written on his body in the most miraculous way. Also, the real terrorists are the Christians and Jews who killed most of their race during the WW1 & WW2, Christians have killed more in Vietnam, Korea, nuked Japan and are still killing innocent people in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Christians in the name of their brutal crusades killed, maimed and injured in the millions and yet that is seen as a normal thing. Don't be double standards or bunch of hypocrites and handle the real truth that is Christians and Jews alike love to kill people for oil and money, PERIOD!!
By Popthetime at 4:57 AM ON 11/04/09
To all the haters of Islam, read the recent news about this small baby in Chechnya who is getting the holy verses of Quran being written on his body in the most miraculous way. Also, the real terrorists are the Christians and Jews who killed most of their race during the WW1 & WW2, Christians have killed more in Vietnam, Korea, nuked Japan and are still killing innocent people in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Christians in the name of their brutal crusades killed, maimed and injured in the millions and yet that is seen as a normal thing. Don't be double standards or bunch of hypocrites and handle the real truth that is Christians and Jews alike love to kill people for oil and money, PERIOD!!
By benjie rivera at 7:47 AM ON 11/04/09
so emmerich where is your balls...hehehe..you are afraid of Arabs but not the Americans...also on Popthetime...u idiot...that is war...but you muslims wrapped bombed around ur body and let it explode with ur fellow muslims around ...what is that?..work of a pig
By Red Mask at 11:16 AM ON 11/04/09
When this movie come out, are you all going to watch it or not? If one religious place isn't included does that mean it wasn't destroyed in this planetwide destruction? Come on. Everybody and their ant farm is going to die and you're upset Emmerich won't upset the Muslims? Selfish pigs.
By markit8dude at 12:15 PM ON 11/04/09
Yeah, why 'insult' a 'religion' that came around 600 years after Christianity? That has contributed little/ none to our planet for progressing homo spaiens sapiens as a whole the past 500 + years.
Nothing to see here, sheeple. Just continued intimidation from a culture that hasn't progressed past the 15th Century. Move along..
By Jayborgg at 12:24 PM ON 11/04/09
Public opinion holding that Islam in general is militant? People who make sweeping generalizations like that about entire categories of people are only showing their own shallowness, insecurity and poor education. Not everyone who isn't a card-carrying, gun-toting, red-blooded American is a bad person. It's a big world out there. Learn to live and let live.
By akeys at 12:25 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm confused about this producer dude. IT seems to me he's against alot of the religions. Why can't you leave up one thing of Christianity? Why can't you leave up one thing of Judaism. Why can't you leave up one thing of buddaism. I mean all these religions have something that is the sacred of sacreds and to me, I think it's wrong to think that us Christians and other religions can handle seeing our things get blown and torn apart but yet when it comes to those freakin muslims, oh you have to save their lunch box that they pray over. Come on man, get real. But to all the christians out there who responded, in a way, its' a good thing that he did what he did. Because you're not supposed to be caught up in religion anyway. God is a relationship not a religion. So to hell with everything that fell apart. If you know Jesus then you know for a fact that he can't crumble and die. Can I get an AMEN????
By Rayia at 12:25 PM ON 11/04/09
OMG...the director and co-writer are idiots. They cant even use the Islamic terminology correctly. A fatwa is not a "putting a hit on someone's head" its a decision on a religious manner...Like can a Muslim eat pig meat?...A fatwa would be a ruling say no you can not. What idiots, they shouldn't bring up religious/cultural/racial aspects or concerns if they are ignorant towards the religion.
By Terrynsv at 12:26 PM ON 11/04/09
what a pussie. its over. they have officially made cowering wimps out of hollywood, well actually they were all pretty much wimps anyway, but now they have allowed the muslims to effect their freedom of speech. they might as well convert and move to bollywood. how embarassing for america. and so many of you actually idolize these idiots of hollywood. can you please explain to me.... WHY?????? Most are complete idiots that just happen to get paid more than they are worth. and becasue of that many of you think their political opinions are worth more than everyone elses, and this in turn actually makes the actors think they actually know more than the rest of us. seriously.... they are just high priced whores, getting paid to perform.... for us..... by us..... its just not in a sexual way..... well some are. but not all.
By alexr237 at 12:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Wuss. Why would you let yourself be held "hostage" like that and let a religion "extort" you? Now you just gave them a reason to believe they are strong and superior over all. Dumb a@@
By loki at 12:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Weak. I will not watch this movie. No plot just boring crap. This guy is a wuss and needs to bring it on the muslims.
By moe43064 at 12:28 PM ON 11/04/09
That's the very first thing I would've destroyed..The Kaaba" in pieces. What's wrong with this director? F--K Islam.
By plauen at 12:29 PM ON 11/04/09
That kind of morons is this moron appealing to?
By not.afraid.of.islam at 12:30 PM ON 11/04/09
This guy is such a pu5555eee and I will not see this movie because of this and save $10.00.
By Islam-is-a-state at 12:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Boycott this movie. When will we ever stop this PC nonsense? Why is it okay to vilifiy Christians and Jews when it is the Judeo-Christian ethic that is the basis for the very freedoms that allow its attack? Show me a country that is free, just, and prosperous, and I will show you one that has been established on biblical principle. I suggest all Christian and Jew-hating liberals move to Islamic nations. Wear the burqa. Have fun.
By HI at 12:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Smart move Roland.
you are all jealous. haha
By Islam-is-a-state at 12:33 PM ON 11/04/09
Boycott this movie. When will we ever stop this PC nonsense? Why is it okay to vilifiy Christians and Jews when it is the Judeo-Christian ethic that is the basis for the very freedoms that allow its attack? Show me a country that is free, just, and prosperous, and I will show you one that has been established on biblical principle. I suggest all Christian and Jew-hating liberals move to Islamic nations. Wear the burqa. Have fun.
By tlgok at 12:33 PM ON 11/04/09
I AGREE WITH LIMEY! THIS FOUL PIECE OF WORK WON'T GET MY MONEY. I HOPE IT TANKS!!
By ag1520 at 12:34 PM ON 11/04/09
To all people, I am Muslim and I am not an extremist. The comments that are made about Islam are HIGHLY OFFENSIVE and I demand that there is an apology to all Muslims. We are not extremist, we are regular people just like the rest of you. Just because we don't believe in Christianity or Catholicism doesn't mean that we less than the rest. All of you should be ashamed of yourself for saying stuff like that. All of you are ignorant and need learn a thing or two about Islam before you go about making RUDE comments about a religion.
By religion_is_poison_candy at 12:37 PM ON 11/04/09
Typical bleating from christians who are so pathetic they can't tell the difference between disagreement and actual persecution.
Although I agree with them he should have shown Mecca getting flattened. While islam is still far behind christianity in a history of hatred and violence, it's sure giving it the ol' college try.
By jamal at 12:38 PM ON 11/04/09
so an opinion was given by a christian to a christian about how the muslims will react and feel. Did anyone care to ask the question from a muslim priest and get an opinion from a muslim. Did anyone do a homework. If a homework was done, they would have discovered that the kaaba was destroyed by an earthquake in the past and was rebuilt.
Obviously a muslim will feel bad about the destruction of the kaaba, as a christian would feel bad about if churches in jerusalem and bethlehem where destroyed.
In summary, a christian is given an opnion to another christian about how a muslim would behave, go figure!
By Greg at 12:39 PM ON 11/04/09
Political correctness means ALWAYS having to say you are sorry.
By WILLY at 12:39 PM ON 11/04/09
I can't believe this guy is a sissy.. Why is it OK for other religions but not this one??? Is everyone suppose to be careful of what they say or do to this group? Are they that sensitive. Grow some Balls!!!!!
No wonder why the world is going into the toilet. What happened to the world when we had people that were not worried if they offended another.
i was going to see the movie but now after reading this who cares.
By believedis at 12:40 PM ON 11/04/09
so essentially, yes I was afraid to go to the full extent of artistic freedom
By Q-chan at 12:45 PM ON 11/04/09
9/11 was an act committed by religious extremists, wasn't it?
By badpoppop at 12:45 PM ON 11/04/09
What a bunch of crap. It's a diaster movie and this guy is worried about about some sub-human towel heads putting a curse on him. I was going to see the flick, now I may not because the movie maker is a whimp.
By elan at 12:45 PM ON 11/04/09
When we have to decide on personal safety in artistic decisions, it is a sad day. Where were the people when the Danish newspaper needed defending for publishing the cartoon of Muhammed? Now there is a law that prohibits such publication - what the heck is going on - the Kaaba is fair game, just like the Vatican.
By Grumpy at 12:45 PM ON 11/04/09
simple answer - only muslims should see this movie, members of all other religions should declare their version of a fatwa on the movie and its makers.
By S at 12:45 PM ON 11/04/09
Pusscake.
I am tired of this 'great respect' we pretend to have for this bullsh*t religion. Nothing respectable about cruelty towards women, squalor and living in tents and caves.
By S at 12:46 PM ON 11/04/09
We should not fear these islamic and muslim extremists....I would poop on the kabba..that would really p*ss people off ...hilarious. movie looks stupid
By ridiculous at 12:48 PM ON 11/04/09
I think its hailarious he won't destroy the kaaba. what a P - - - - . As a italian/American Catholic I'm putting the malocchio on him for destroying St. Peters Basilica . U think a fatwa is bad ? lololololol
By Logan at 12:48 PM ON 11/04/09
Funny how we can state we do not like most religions and the followers will be there to debate. However, the followers of Islam's knee jerk reaction is to attack whomever says anything bad about their religion. Not all mulims are terrorists, but all terrorists are mulim. This statement is not true, but how come we do not see major Islamic groups condeming the brutal murder of a Christian? Like the cartoon of that Mohammd with a bomb strapped to his head. The Islamic groups were calling for the death of the cartoonist and attacks on the countries that showed the cartoon. Looks like blowwing up a bunch of kids is acceptable to them, just can not depicted their religion in a negative light.
By Bob at 12:48 PM ON 11/04/09
Some of the stuff said on here may be bad, but i think if one belief gets smashed then they should all get smashed... I have to put up with seeing buildings and other stuff from my beliefs getting destroyed but u dont see me cryin everywhere about it... This directorneeds to grow some balls and demolish everything or stop directing movies!!!
By Super T at 12:48 PM ON 11/04/09
i agree with you stone. but lets make it...
Super Wuss
By RK at 12:49 PM ON 11/04/09
Ohhh wow! What a fu*king surprise. A Hollywood A-hole is gonna bash symbols of Christianity. Let's not play it too safe. You can't touch the jews or islam or the others, but some jerk is always saying "I'm gonna rip on religion", when what they mean is, "I'm gonna bash the Christians." Pathetic. F the muslims and the rest. If you're gonna mock or rip on religion, do them all, not just one. I guess we Christians are the only ones with a sense of humor to allow all mocking on us without blowing you up.
By timsmom at 12:49 PM ON 11/04/09
I for one am sick and tired of people thinking it's okay to go after Christian symbols and protect other religious symbols. How dare you Mr. Emmerich, think it's okay to pick on one religion and protect another. In case you didn't know, this country was founded on Christian principals and the reason the world is going to hell is because we are rapidly becoming a secular nation. I am boycotting this movie and will spread the word to all my Christian friends to do the same to this anti-CHRISTian's movie.
By Fedup48 at 12:50 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland has proven once again that the elite of Hollywood are gutless SOB's. His relectance to equally distribute global disaster to everyone except Islam proves his cowardice. If you are afraid of the potential retribution from your ill-conceived film then perhaps you should withdraw to a quiet corner somewhere in the world and cower in fear. You are probably the type of person who would have rolled over on your friends during the McCarthy era and are simply another in the long line of Hollywood hypocrites to emerge. Good luck with conscience...
By lg at 12:52 PM ON 11/04/09
coward , that will be one movie I won't see. God forbid if the muslim's are insulted. Lets boycott that movie and all his movies to come.
By superd at 12:53 PM ON 11/04/09
he scared that some islam would have his head!!!! What a big puss!!!
I WONT BE WATCHING THIS STUPID MOVIE!!
By Joe in Texas at 12:54 PM ON 11/04/09
I may be way off on this, but...how many of the people commenting have ever even heard of the Kaaba until this came up? It probably wouldn't even be recognized as something with any significance to 90% of the people seeing the movie anyway. As far as showing destruction in Islamic countries, they don't even need special effects...just wait for the next suicide bomber to come along and get the real thing.
The most ridiculous to me is the tip-toeing around anything that has to do with Islam - I personally am offended that the only thing that they are in the news for is destruction, yet the other followers talk of peace. They need to police their own and eradicate the world of their radical bretheren - IF they REALLY feel that its wrong what their radical brothers are doing. Since nothing has been done as of yet, it appears that they condone it. And to the Muslims out there - what exactly has been brought to the world in the way of science, medicine, culture from Islam? I can't think of a thing that they have brought except war, terrorism and destruction....
By Samueltx at 12:54 PM ON 11/04/09
Coward.
By michuser at 12:54 PM ON 11/04/09
Emmerich...you're such a gutless idiot. Your idiocy and hypocrisy just guaranteed I won't go see the movie....jerk!
By Geester at 12:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey, AG1520 and the rest of you apologist seekers! I don't recall any Muslim aoplogists for 9/11 or any Jew apologists for the persecution of Palestinians or any Catholic apologists for the sacking of Moscow by the Polish Church or any Turkish apologists for the persecution of Kurds. So all you over-sensitive boorish whiners... get over it already, will ya! No religion, nationality, race or anything else is sacred from free speach or expression in this world, except where you totalitarian extremists trample it.
By Red Herrings at 12:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Don't mind the fact that every single day there are bombings from Islamic extremists all over the world, I'm going to mention one incident where a Cristian did something wrong in an attempt to throw you off the trail.
By Sandnigger Killer at 12:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Buttfuck Mo with a pork sausage!
By Rafael at 12:56 PM ON 11/04/09
This is an awful religion.
Gets respect spreading the fear.
This is not good, this is evil.
By airernie at 12:56 PM ON 11/04/09
Okay, so it's okay to simulate destruction of the planet's other religious buildings, but not Islam's? At least have the guts to take the moral position of all are fair game or none are fair game.. There's a word for people who do what Emmerich just did, but I'll save it in case we ever meet him in person.
By alex at 12:58 PM ON 11/04/09
well,stop here guys he was right when he didn't do it at least i think he'd having some knowledge and he knows what is 'kaaba' is.
did any one know?i will tell you that the kaaba is the centre of the earth the zone'0' somethign is really perfect it you don't belive check on internet and nothing can be distroy it even by thinking..oh hold on..and the kaaba is the only light that you can see it outside the earth but the don't wanna show it..unfortunatly!!
By Dan at 12:58 PM ON 11/04/09
My my, the bigoted trolls are out in full force, are they?
Hey redante, how did you feel about Ryan Jenkins brutally murdering his wife and then fleeing to Canada only to hang himself like a coward? Is Western values to blame for that?
Grow up.
Personally as a Muslim, he should have included the destruction of the Kaa'ba in the film. Because it is, after all, a movie in the end. There's a hadith that says that the Kaa'ba is not worth an ounce of Muslim blood, so stop frothing like little idiots.
Besides, if you don't believe Christians or Americans have made threats, you are mistaken. Here are a few examples:
When former professor at CU Boulder Ward Churchill wrote a scathing essay referring to 9/11 victims as "Little Eichmanns", death threats from the same people who cry about Islamic intolerance began to flow in.
When an Austrian Catholic Church held an exhibit last year portraying "The Last Supper" as a gay orgy, threats from American Christian extremists began to pour in, advocating that the exhibit be bombed with molotov cocktails.
21 years ago, when The Last Temptation of Christ came out, a French Catholic extremist group threw molotovs at a packed theater showing the film. Luckily no one was killed, and mind you, this was a year BEFORE The Satanic Verses came out.
When the Dixie Chicks scrutinized the Bush administration in 2003, death threats again flowed in from cowardly Bush-supporting makeshift patriots who again, would be criticizing the death threats from Islamic extremists while staying silent on their own shortcomings.
And that's not all. Hindu fundamentalists have repeatedly threatened anyone who dares to vilify Hinduism. Refer to the filming of the movie Water by Deepa Mehta where she was forced to film in Sri Lanka due to threats by Hindu fundamentalists loyal to Shiv Sena and the BJP.
There you have it you hypocrites. Take a look at your own before condemning Muslims.
By lifttech65lifttech at 12:59 PM ON 11/04/09
I am so tired of people bending ver backwards to please the Islamic comunity.
They should destroy their icons just as they destroy the Christian icons. They need to remember it is only a symbol, real faith comes from within.
By starlie at 1:01 PM ON 11/04/09
guys it may be unfair but the fact of the matter is that it can get real ugly if he decides to put the destruction of meccah in the movie. u shouldnt blame islam as a whole and call it an unpeaceful religion just because some assholes choose to strap on bombs and kill people. islam condems all that stuff.
the majority of muslims i can tell u wont care, but the extremists will and it was a smart decision he made. i repeat, its not fair at all but we dont want him and his crew and cast to hide out for a decade like the writer of "The Satanic Verses".
By rayhanspeaks91 at 1:01 PM ON 11/04/09
he just knew that a whole race of people woulndnt have like him destroying one of the most important Islam symbol maybe he even did it for rattings but at the end of the day this topic is leading to bombs on kids???maybe plp need to realize that plp do watever.. whereever.. n however they want ...so if some one decided to blow something up in the name of there religion doesnt mean the religion supports it..like i said watever n whereever they want.
By sam at 1:03 PM ON 11/04/09
How sad. I guess the freaks win, then.
Islam IS a religion of peace, but only the freaks get the P.R. (just like in any religion). Too bad that he bowed to the bullying of the freaks, though. It totally sends the wrong message.
By just cause at 1:03 PM ON 11/04/09
gimme a break! Show him and his "art" disgust - don't see the stinking movie.
I reel whever hollytrash uses the Lord's name as cussword and the Christian faith.
There's a reason why family value movies are on the upswing. People are soooo tired of HOLLYTRASH.
By Sal at 1:03 PM ON 11/04/09
typical liberal double speaking pussy.
By sam at 1:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Actually... perhaps I won't see the show because of this. My own kind of fatwa. I won't spend my money on this, since it's written by such a chicken.
By Dave at 1:05 PM ON 11/04/09
Just further reason Islam should not be taken seriousily. It is a religion about bullying and intimidation. FU to all you Islam peeps!
Go blow yourselves up already.
This country needs to stand up to this so called religion. We are americans. I was going to go see this movie but now I will not.
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By alah at 1:05 PM ON 11/04/09
HE is a wuss going after every religion but islamic maybe if we where crazy like them he wouldn't of blew them up well i wont watch if i see him i slap him for being an idiot maybe sum fear in him and he wont be a hypocrit
By Zinc at 1:06 PM ON 11/04/09
Is Roland going to destroy the Jewish Western Wall in Israel???? Guess not!!
By A PERSON at 1:07 PM ON 11/04/09
I don't understand why any religious landmarks had to be involved in the movie. Is there not millions of other historical but none religious landmarks for them to destroy. Secondly don't be an idiot and blame a fatwa, learn why fatwas were issued and exist first then use it as an excuse in the proper way. It sounds to me that they knew their ratings would plumit in the middle east if they had destroyed Mecca and that's why they left it alone, not because a fatwa. Grow up
By bucks at 1:07 PM ON 11/04/09
Get over yourselves. it really isn't an interesting enough structure to destroy in a disaster movie any way. Its a SQUARE, boring. So what are you going to make it do, tip over and land on another side on top of a bunch of people? Big woop, waste of film time. It wouldn't even roll well, or go flying to bits very effectively. Geeze, I for one would much rather see that huge building in Asia fall over or go flying into an aircraft carrier. Why does everyone have to get on their religeous bandwagons anyway?
But on the religeous point: just remember all you Christians and Jews, that your religeon specifically prohibits you from worshop of idols ( and that means buildings to) so from a practical standpoint, if all the buildings and icons and statues were destroyed, theoretically, it shouldn't even matter to you. However, the Muslims (and in this case the extremists) whould have a fatwah over a building-which ought to to make the other religions (Jes and Christions) proud to say their religion is more substantial that what a building or two stands for.
I want to see the ocean come over the mountians of Tibet and LA sucked into the earth.
By youfools at 1:07 PM ON 11/04/09
islamophobia, catch it from FOX news
By reallyrick at 1:08 PM ON 11/04/09
Really people......here is what should have happened. If your going to make a movie about the world being destroyed and you show "iconic" , religious symbols being demolished... then every iconic symbol should be demolished. Let's get everyone's feelings hurt equally. Don't favor a certain religion because your scared of "fatwa". If that's the case, edit your movie, Roland, and show no religious structure being untouched. Just because there are a bunch of pansy, UNEDUCATED, people out there who have NOTHING else going for them but their religion, tell them to get a life and don't see the movie. This is a movie for entertainment, suspense, and about "what-ifs"Just reading this article is down right sad.
By godslayer at 1:09 PM ON 11/04/09
this is bs.if arabs want to start a war then american can easily blow them up
By rayhanspeaks91 at 1:09 PM ON 11/04/09
humans are animals they kill,rape,rob, extort, sell other humans everything is done by humans a man that has lost his mind can maybe only tlak about islam doesnt have anything to do with the religion its the human he is..a crazy mother fcker
By teb at 1:10 PM ON 11/04/09
I am sick and tired of the world being "politically correct" toward muslims and every other religion except for Christians!!! enough already!!!
By Andy at 1:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Well, if Emmerich had to roll out his movie in the ~14th century Europe, he would have burned on a pyre in Vatican's St. Peter square. Knowing that Islam is living today its ~14th century period (Islam developed ~6-8 centuries after Christianity), it is not surprising to think that Emmerich & co could have ended up with a similar fate today, right?
By alah at 1:10 PM ON 11/04/09
HE is a wuss going after every religion but islamic maybe if we where crazy like them he wouldn't of blew them up well i wont watch if i see him i slap him for being an idiot maybe sum fear in him and he wont be a hypocrit
By Mohammed Sucks Ass at 1:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland Emmerich is a b*tch and this movie looks as good as Godzilla--terrible...we don't have to fear these islamic and muslim idiots..just outsmart them, which shouldn't be too hard..
By Bill at 1:11 PM ON 11/04/09
I was on the fence about seeing this movie. Now, as a result of this article and the directors cowardly behaviour I will absolutely NOT see this film and I encourage others to boycott it as well. See, that's how real people react and behave. I won't blow up a school...I just won't go and see the movie.
Islam is the "religion of peace" my ass.
By pepeldrew at 1:11 PM ON 11/04/09
Islamic extremists are wrong. Muhamad (or however you spell the guy's name) was wrong. I hope that the Kaaba falls down anyway...in real life. I don't care about this producer being a wuss, I'm more pissed that he thinks organized religion is wrong, yet gives credibility to Islam through this; and also that he is picking on Christianity and prayer. He's going to hell along with the rest of Islamic followers. Come and get me Islam extremists! By the way, I will not be seeing this movie, renting this movie, or anything else this producer ever makes.
By YeahRight at 1:12 PM ON 11/04/09
It seems quite obvious to me that Emmerich's reasons for not destroying the Islamic landmark are specifically for making a statement. OTHERWISE, why even include it in the movie when I assume that just about everything else is destroyed? What other purpose does it serve? (Other than making some sort of statement of course.)
Sorry Emmerich, but I don't buy your lame excuse
By Grant1_th at 1:12 PM ON 11/04/09
C'mon - already: what is this Manichean world we all seem to live in? One side outraged and the other offended?
First of all - Emmerich is a "western european"; ie he has absorbed all the guilt about the success of capitalism, the guilt with the unacknowledged Holocaust (now masquerading as "anti-Zionism") and the platitudes of the Hollywood crowd - "it is a movie and art, theerfore it is good". So what if he wants to be another Leni Riefenstahl - who cares, his views are his to promote and the consumer public can pay, or not pay.
And for the outraged Muslims - let's be more accurate; to those many Muslims who came out on the streets to exclaim their horror and indignation at 9/11 or march in solidarity to protest the murder of Daniel Pearl - or just those who think that the Sunni/Shiite love-hate relationship as expressed between the peace-loving Wahhadists or the nut jobs in Iran might be a cause for some internal circumspection, then of course your outrage is valid.
But all this is just posturing, right?
And as for Mr Emmerich - good luck, sayonora and as I understand it; these views as expressed (this artist endeavor to express truth in the face of power) - just makes Arbeit Mach Frei - even with the Yankee dollar just that much sweeter, ne cest pas?
By non-terrorist at 1:13 PM ON 11/04/09
Typical Islam crap, its such a hateful religion and yet muslims try to defend it. Do you even know whats in your scriptures? There are like 101 commandments to kill all non-muslims! And you say its a peaceful religion... I wouldn't put any muslim buildings being destroyed either, but thats no excuse for showing like a ton of Christian monuments going down.
By Fed-up at 1:14 PM ON 11/04/09
This is a typical hollywood action. Hypocritically claiming to dislike organized religion and then cowardly avoiding a quasi religion/political movement for fear of a possible reprisal from them. Perhaps if every time christians or jews or buddists or hindus are called names, murdered, held hostage, or have their property destroyed they retaliated against muslims by protesting, destroying their places of worship and employment they would understand that the world is fed up with their antics. Even for the most ignorant, backward mouth breathing islamic murderer this would probably be a earth shaking wake-up call. We spend our time hunting these savages and trying to isolate them from "the innocent's" and thus allowed these animals to avoid being eliminated. Perhaps if we just level the entire area either we will be rid of them or the "innocents" will stand up and rid their countries of this blight. I really don't care if they worship allah or turnips, just as long as they don't try to force everyone to do the same. We do not do that to them and they should not do it to the rest of the world. If hollywood wants to make movies at least be fair and balanced or don't make them.
By Chief at 1:14 PM ON 11/04/09
well,stop here guys he was right when he didn't do it at least i think he'd having some knowledge and he knows what is 'kaaba' is.
did any one know?i will tell you that the kaaba is the centre of the earth the zone'0' somethign is really perfect it you don't belive check on internet and nothing can be distroy it even by thinking..oh hold on..and the kaaba is the only light that you can see it outside the earth but the don't wanna show it..unfortunatly!!
By bash at 1:14 PM ON 11/04/09
DESPITE THE ILLS YOU KNOW AND WRITE ABOUT OF ISLAM. GO DISCOVER ITS TRUTH. THE TRUTH, NOT THE TRUTH U THINK OR HAVE HEARD ABOUT. SEE WHY.
By quietman at 1:15 PM ON 11/04/09
coward, another hollywood hero with no spine. he probely loves roman polansky
By masitif at 1:15 PM ON 11/04/09
Its the same for every religion you have a few who promote hate and violence and anything can spark the flame they often have the ability to find the ignorant (no knowledge of the truth) and warp their minds I am muslim and i take offence to generalizations of any religion the deeds of the few shouldn't reflect on the standing of the many I know it isn't really being destroyed so I'm not upset and in truth if the world is coming to an end it would be gone anyway I have no problem putting that in the movie but i don't like the islam bashing either It is a religion of peace but just like every religion it can and has been corrupted by some we need a cure for ignorance you can help by not spreading it
By AntiPC at 1:15 PM ON 11/04/09
Emmerich, you sniveling, islamic sychophant . You will gladly destroy other religious symbols, but won’t touch an islamic religious symbol? As if natural catastrophes would distinguish one religion from another. How creatively inept can you be?! If you’re going to make a movie about the destruction of the world, then f*cking destroy it and quit pandering to the islamic fascists that have infected the world with their thug-style hatred.
By Eily Mubarak from NJ at 1:16 PM ON 11/04/09
Wow... literally ever comment for this post contained nothing but ignorance.
I'm an American born Muslim, so I'm not surprised by the stupidity in the above statements. I just have to say, he isn't a wuss at all and I don't think it's fair to call him un-American because he decided not to blow up an Islamic symbol. Unfortunately Islam has been warped by the extremists who obviously need psychiatric help and unfairly treated by those not willing to look deeper to the true meaning and beauty of Islam. Because of this, because of the radical groups "fighting for" (more so AGAINST) Roland chose to avoid any big trouble with them.
And Roland is a GREAT director, maybe you couldn't pick him from a line up but the movies he's come out with are epic! I love Roland.
By SoS at 1:16 PM ON 11/04/09
“You can’t do what he wants just because he’s the one threatening you with violence!”
Censorship is never going to end unless people start standing up for themselves.
By infidel at 1:18 PM ON 11/04/09
What a pussy! This movie looks lame anyway.
By Barikzai at 1:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Allah Akbar
By Idiots at 1:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Ofcourse you can not virtually try to destroy the Kaabah, not even in a movie. That is morally, and illicit in any timing. It doesnt matter if its the 21st or 31st century! Im glad that he was afraid! He needs to seriously understand that Islam is not a joke, and to put it in some stupid movie just to show his ignorance is just immature. Surprisingly none of his movies won grammy awards.....
By PHTTT at 1:18 PM ON 11/04/09
I for one am not going to go see this over priced piece of rubbish.
After watching the clip all I could think was "What kind of sadistic jerk gets entertainment from watching a small child be terrified? or worse what kind of sick creep will put it on screen and make money off of it?"
Well, he won't be getting MINE.
By Capt. Obvious at 1:18 PM ON 11/04/09
LOL! Yet another guy scared of Muslims. It is humorously tiring the great lengths some will go to to try to avoid offending the Muslims, yet every other religion is fair game. Obama says to the world that we are not a Christian nation, the right to pray publicly is being taken away, nativity scenes are rejected in some public areas, as are Christmas songs vs. Holiday songs, etc. Our rights as Christian Americans are slowly and steadily being taken away because WE should be more tolerant. What?? This is 2009.
Christians shouldn't be offended about icons being destroyed because our faith is NOT placed in a symbolic statue or site. We worship the living Creator of the universe not a man-made creation. So, while some see it as a point being made (and it is to unbelievers), in the end it's all about what each individual decided to do with the gift of Jesus. There are only 2 choices: accept it or reject it. Apathy is rejection.
By Jade at 1:19 PM ON 11/04/09
Okay. What about the Jewish symbols? Did he want to destroy the western wall too?
Now that starts a whole new topic!
By Chief at 1:19 PM ON 11/04/09
well,stop here guys he was right when he didn't do it at least i think he'd having some knowledge and he knows what is 'kaaba' is.
did any one know?i will tell you that the kaaba is the centre of the earth the zone'0' somethign is really perfect it you don't belive check on internet and nothing can be distroy it even by thinking..oh hold on..and the kaaba is the only light that you can see it outside the earth but the don't wanna show it..unfortunatly!!
By Peacemaker;) at 1:19 PM ON 11/04/09
Well I dont blame the guy for being cautious but the reason why muslims take prophet mohamed being drawn or shown in cartoons is because its against our religion to draw or say this is mohamed because no onereally knows what he looks like,so if ppl see a picture of him they go protest because they worry that people may pray to it or worship,so I learned,but destroying any landmark is disrespectful but if you show the destruction of the kabba it will be a huge insult because its considered one of the most holiest places in the world, and as a side note whoever kills people or does any evil deeds is not a muslim,so please dont compare usgod loving peacemaking muslims to terroists okay,it says in our holy book is a huge sin,if you would like to talk more about the topic email me,but please no negative comments or backlashing im only speaking from my heart what i believe,it looks like a good movie anyway but even if he did destroy the kabba in the movie i would get mad but i wouldnt want to go kill him,because i would only say its just a movie,;)
By trancesend at 1:20 PM ON 11/04/09
PUSSY!!
By aREALmuslim at 1:20 PM ON 11/04/09
Actually the destruction of the kaabah is a prophecy well documented in the 2nd most authetic source of islam ( sahih bukhari ) . Try to read up . As in ALL religions , there are the majority moderates and the rare extremist which the media LOVES to show resulting in sheer ignorance .
By non-terrorist at 1:20 PM ON 11/04/09
Corruption doesn't explain the "kill all non-muslims" attitude of the Koran. Its people like Emmerich who try to take little jabs at the things he doesn't believe in, and try to write them off as nothing. If your going to share your beliefs share them loud and proud. The only belief coming in loud from him is that he's pandering the musilms just cause allah tell them to kill everyone to go to heaven.
By chatter at 1:20 PM ON 11/04/09
lol.....you all are f...k no brain. this director wants everyone reaction, let the christian and muslim kill each other till the jews assholes to be remained.....you are all moron and his laughing out loud.
By EvenSteven at 1:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Dude - can you expect anything else from spineless Hollyweird Producers who prey on kid's minds for a profit? No wonder he is against his biggest competitor (organized religion). I hope this movie tanks but american people will pay to see just about anything when their bored...
By non-terrorist2 at 1:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Corruption doesn't explain the "kill all non-muslims" attitude of the Koran. Its people like Emmerich who try to take little jabs at the things he doesn't believe in, and try to write them off as nothing. If your going to share your beliefs share them loud and proud. The only belief coming in loud from him is that he's pandering the musilms just cause allah tell them to kill everyone to go to heaven.
By Eily Mubarak from NJ at 1:21 PM ON 11/04/09
& I am almost 100% positive that there will be a few Christian organizations upset about blowing Christian statues up. Like that one group Shirley Phelps runs.
Anyways, I'll be glad to see the day when Emmerich can blow up a Mosque or two on television along with Synagogues and Churches and not have to face any sort of negative remarks by any of the religions. -- Insh'Allah, of course.
By jetmech001 at 1:22 PM ON 11/04/09
What a coward! basically he's OK with trashing religious symbol's when he know's there will be violent backlash, another example of hollywood hypocracy,Islam is no better than any other religion, I guess Christians need to start cutting people's heads off in order to get some respect. I hope this movie fails miserably. and oh yeah,screw islam.
By Dan at 1:23 PM ON 11/04/09
You know, the same people who are calling Emmerich a coward are the same ones who wouldn't muster up the courage to express their hatred of Muslims openly. They are the ones who will never talk back to a cabbie or a 7-Eleven cashier. They are also the type that use the n-word as long as blacks aren't around. Pot meets kettle in this case.
By ChuckZ3 at 1:23 PM ON 11/04/09
It think You should cut the muslim building scene or face a boycott on your film from Christians in the US. Why show one religion that lasts thru an armmagedon. It sounds like You favor one religion and want to promote that. Cut the scene in the film rather than show it still standing. I feel that would be best for all unless your afraid of a fatwa because you didn't show that it was still standing. I think you're full of crap with your explanation, if worried Don't show the area at all. You still have the same effect with out bringing religion into it. Have some sound judgement, Cut it or will organize a Christian Boycott
By Voice from a Muslim girl at 1:24 PM ON 11/04/09
First of all, the cartoons of Muhammad (pbuh) were not insulting because he was depicted as a terrorist and a murderer. It was because Muhammad (pbuh) does not have an image in our religion. He is not to be depicted at all. This means that most Muslims (F*** the extremists) actually laugh at cartoons depicting terrorists and other stereotypical things about Muslims. I know I do. Another thing, this director is ignorant for stating that the Kaaba is an Arab symbol! Not all Arabs are Muslims, and the majority of Muslims are Indonesian. What a weirdo. Third, Islam is not organized, at least it is not supposed to be. From what I believe and have been taught, our religion is supposed to be an individual's own faith in Allah. By the way, Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike all believe in one God. Allah is only the Arabic term for "God." If people do some research, these three religions are not different at all. The extremists, on all sides, have messed this up for the believers. We Muslims do believe in Moses, Abraham, and Jesus, the Virgin Mary (peace be upon them), and many more religious figures. Unfortunately, haters exist and they say thier opinions about Muslims before they figure this out. People should also think about how our (average Muslim's) lives have been ruined due to the unhumane acts of the Muslim extremists. I wish they would actually shed some light onto this, too. This director was not smart to do this because as some already said, it is only a way for the extremists to feel more powerful. However, in this time of the century, he has every right to be afraid of these extremists. So, it's a really confusing matter; people shouldn't judge him for not including it. And finally, no it's not okay to show the destruction of all religious symbols, except for one of the Muslim ones. So, does this mean that the Dome of the Rock was destroyed??
By Matt at 1:25 PM ON 11/04/09
All these hateful comments proves that ignorance, stupity, hatred, hypocrasy and violence ISN'T just unique to SOME muslims. I mean some of you make bin ladin & hitler sound like mickey mouse.
And to markit8dude, I don't where you get your history from (John Wayne Movies?) but your are writing in arabic alphabet & numerals. The modern university & hospital concept came from medeviel Muslim models as did algebra, chemistry (alchemy), algorithim, and zero. This not even the tip of the tip of the iceberg of the contributions Islam has made to civilization. Indeed without Islam contributions, Europe would probably still be mired in the DARK Ages. Muslim Doctors where removing cataracts at a time when European remedies consisted Exorcisms, and burning of witches. It is ironic that the Light of Science & Logic was brought to Europe by Muslims.
In any event it is just a movie, you guys sound just like the radicals you despise.
By BillMaher at 1:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Anyone who believes in religion is retarded.
By iamthewalrus at 1:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Another fine pos from hollywood I wont be seeing. Perhaps instead of a fatwa you will get a voodo curse or maybe just bad karma. The way I see it you are cursed either way. Break out the brickdust and chicken feet...
Hope it hits you hardest in the old wallet.
By Dan at 1:26 PM ON 11/04/09
ChuckZ3, I think a Christian boycott would yield more dividends if you "pro-lifers" organized one against the war in Iraq instead of boycotting a movie. Didn't work for The Last Temptation of Christ, nor did it work for Dogma 10 years ago, so what makes you think it will work now?
By Whatthe... at 1:27 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm amazed you guys are falling for this CLOWN's hide the ball tactics. The issue here is NOT "Islamic terrorism", but the FACT that this is an openly anti-Christian, particularly anti-Catholic movie. All this talk about the muslim holy sites is SUPPOSED to distract you from the fact that a Talmud worshipping Zionist like Roland Emmerich HATES Christianity and destroys ALL of its iconic symbols in this movie, from Rio to the Vatican, even the Sistine Chappel. All you need to do is read the Talmud and their belief that Christ was a false prophet and boiling in a vat of hot excrement in hell to understand what drives the likes of Emmerich. Once you get that, the rest is easy. Note that NOT ONE synagogue was even flattened in this movie, and the "Wailing Wall" was not touched. THAT is the story, folks.
By ringside at 1:27 PM ON 11/04/09
Typical Hollywood Lib. Trash Christianity but don't mess with Islam.
HELLO! Muslims want to kill you...
By Kabba Dabba Doo at 1:28 PM ON 11/04/09
the kabba looks like a really nice big port-o-pot, I would like to destroy it in another way and wipe with pages of Mohamed cartoons..lol
By sltcy at 1:28 PM ON 11/04/09
If you don't support this man's ideas then simply boycott the movie. People are always complaining and "against" things but rarely do anything about it. If you oppose this man don't go to his movie which will will be the best message; taking money out of his back pocket.
By Patrick at 1:28 PM ON 11/04/09
what a big deal ! It is just a movie.. Grow up people ! Try to understand the world and what is going on by facts and what you see , not by a Jewish Hollywood.
By jetmech001 at 1:28 PM ON 11/04/09
What a coward! basically he's OK with trashing religious symbol's when he know's there will be violent backlash, another example of hollywood hypocracy,Islam is no better than any other religion, I guess Christians need to start cutting people's heads off in order to get some respect. I hope this movie fails miserably. and oh yeah,screw islam.
By ken at 1:30 PM ON 11/04/09
Kabba is protected by God divinely .About 1500 years ago before the birth of islam,an arab army with elephants set out to destroy kabba but was divinely protected and God send brids millions of them and threw stones upon the advancing army and crushed them.story is mention in the holy quran , Surah Feel-just google it you can read the story yourself.......
By TroyT at 1:31 PM ON 11/04/09
how typical, this is one of the many reasons that this movie will suck
By H20rat at 1:32 PM ON 11/04/09
I saw the preview-planned to see it. Now I won't. Simple.
By islamicdogs at 1:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Well i see there are a quite a few of Anti Islamics in here. You will all get your play, you will all get a good education, you will all get your dream job, you will all get your hard earned money, you will get your beer, you will have your fun, you will get your pussy and you all have your freedom. My question is what are you doing for your children and their children from the threat of Islam? Islam is slowly eating away into your societies but the politicians and the businees people will deny tthat for the sake of the votes and the money respectively.
Safeguard your children , protect them from a mental disease called Islam.
( in the movie the the kaaba didnt go down but the US forces i am sure are sending a lot of islamic souls back to hell.
By amelia at 1:32 PM ON 11/04/09
I don't get how everyone thinks that "Christians" and "Jews" can handle religious bashing.
DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THE REACTION TO THE DA VINCI CODE?!
Yeah, and they didn't even have to blow anything up for that.
By Guy at 1:33 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland Emmerich is a spineless coward. He basically told the world that he is afraid of these Islamic extremist nutjobs and he will let them dictate what he does.
I will boycott this movie, and pretty much anything else he does.
By kingtexas at 1:33 PM ON 11/04/09
Intimidated biased yellow belly.........
By Kabba Dabba Doo at 1:34 PM ON 11/04/09
Ken,
Ok, so it's a fairytale then...big load off my mind..thank u
By masitif at 1:34 PM ON 11/04/09
also you talk about how everyone tip toes around the islamic religion thats a load of BS most american movies that have muslims in them have muslims as terrorists of some kind you have promminent preachers and political figures defacing the religion a politician wished to swear on a quran and there was an up roar you have people saying this is a christian country i like to look at it as spiritual open to all our current president called a secret muslim hes not but if he was muslim why would it matter im not saying muslims are the only ones that get picked on far from it they all have but if you're going to put my religion on notice how about looking at the history books and instead of spouting off what some wolf in sheeps clothing tells you is truth search for it yourself Tre Via Dei(Three Paths of God) learn about a religion before you disgrace it (heres a tip if your from one religion talk to people from others and really talk to them not all spout hate and ignorance (Imam, Rabi, Preist, Pastor, Preacher) also read and come up with your own conclusions
By Blame YouSelves at 1:35 PM ON 11/04/09
It's nt wrong if muslims are worried abt their islamic symbols distroyed, infact even christians shouldnt allow there religious symbols to be distroyed in the movie, or in reality....
As muslims we believe in jews christians and other religions which calls for one god and one god only, we dont think that churches should be distroyed in movies, I HATE THAT !! But if you christians don't care abt it, thn why would the world here what muslims have to say !
All religous figurs and symbols must be respected, no matter what they present
By Yesim Planker at 1:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Muslims want to everyone love one other. We are looking for unity under GOD`s law. Did you read Quran send by GOD? Many of you will say no and who cares? Did you ever think may be you are making a mistake.
Mecca is a sleeping place for all of us father
HZ .Abraham(as).It is not just for Muslims.For all of us who wants to live in peace and love. God bless all.
By islam is cool at 1:36 PM ON 11/04/09
i hear islam arabs don't like to eat pigs but rather have sex with them. Muhammed would flip in his grave if he knows this. I hate most religion but islam the most.
By Gandolfini at 1:36 PM ON 11/04/09
First, he's clearly an idiot. It's not an Arab symbol, it's a Muslim Symbol (only 11%of Muslims are Arab). Second, it is sad that a few bad apples in one religion can destroy the reputation of the whole religion. It's not Muslims regularly threatening to kill people, it's a few who do. I'm Muslim and I say destroy it in a movie (IT'S FAKE) just make it spectacular!
By Hookah Joe at 1:39 PM ON 11/04/09
In all honesty, he didn't include the Kaaba in the film because 95% of the American audience wouldn't have any idea what the hell it is...
By nottalep12 at 1:39 PM ON 11/04/09
Would of prefered him being an an equal opertunity offender. I am a muslim and a devote one too, but a movie is a movie, the kabba will be destroyed on judement day (my believe) as long as there is no bad depicityng of it then why the heck not, Rushdie was entirely different when he claimed false conclusions and insulted us, so please no resemblance there. Not judging his desicion but that was not a good reason.
By jimbo1777 at 1:40 PM ON 11/04/09
If you won't trash an "islamic" holy site, then leave the rest of us alone as well. There are plenty of buildings to trash that everybody recognizes. I won't stand by and let my religion get trampled on.
By Steve at 1:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Spineless!
By JoshyB at 1:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Ha screw that .. blow mecca to kingdom come and who cares if they are pissed off. Its a shame directors and other public ppl have become such cowards over the rantings of lunatics.
By suz at 1:40 PM ON 11/04/09
to those you are commenting on him not blowing up the western wall...I would like to point out that if he blew up the western wall he would also have to blow up the Dome of the Rock, therefore opening himself up to said Fatwa's again....
By Muslims_are_dead_who_knew? at 1:41 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland Emmerich is a vagina. "My assistant wouldn't let me do it!!!" What a chickenshlt.
Islam is worthless. Plain and simple. If you are a peaceful, educated Muslim who doesn't want to blow yourself up too bad. Your religion has been taken over. All anyone thinks of muslims is "dirka dirka i'm an ignorant stupid muslim who wants to blow myself up cause i have no life except a stupid religion." That's Islam for at least the next 50 years...everyone would be happy if every muslim could blow themselves up at the same time without blowing anything else around them up. That includes most muslims who get a hard on at the idea of blowing up. Hey, maybe we should invent a suicide bomb like that and sell it to all the dumb muslims?
By Skip87 at 1:42 PM ON 11/04/09
Are people accepting some type or rational or moral accountability from Hollyweird?
You expect too much.
Props to Mechagamera for the best quote on the page!
By Ignatz451 at 1:42 PM ON 11/04/09
This is pathetic.
I hope every muslim in the world takes notice: This is what everybody thinks of you: That you demand respect down the barrel of a gun, that you are animals, that it is easier to exclude you than to reason with you.
It's time that the fanatics who shout "Allahu Akbar" before evangelizing themselves to pieces in a market full of women and children, learn that there is a force out there that's stronger than they, that also has unalterable values, and that can also be offended.
The fact that so many responses here say-"I don't blame the director" is horrible. Continuously treating Islam as a special case means that it will NEVER be on an equal footing in the west. It used to be that we were all encouraged to respect people. Now we are being told to respect IDEAS; That some ideas should be immune from criticism. (As if a made-up disaster amounts to a scathing indictment of Islam.)
Were I Muslim I would take note. Is this really how you want to be treated?
Absolutely disgusting.
By masitif at 1:44 PM ON 11/04/09
islamicdogs you are what i talk about in my comments you are a hate monger id put you right there with hitler and osama bin laden i bet you call yourself christian your not being christ like read up on how jesus treated those he didn't agree with he didn't judge them condem them or hate them in my opinion you are no more a christian than bin laden is muslim you give christians a bad name people like you are the self fufilling prophecy that this movie is partly about
By dethaddr at 1:45 PM ON 11/04/09
That's total bollocks. It just means he let the terrorists win. Roland, you're a loser for playing into their hands. I was anticipating this movie, but now, due to personal reasons, I'll be skipping out. Thanks for being spineless.
By Ms Ali at 1:46 PM ON 11/04/09
For all you people out there trying to bash the Islamic religion because of this article, can you name me one place in this article where it says that he had a Fatwa (which by the way just means decision not anything violent) put on his head? Even the statement sound rediculous.
The director was a dumbass for following his own fears instead of doing something virtually in the movie. Don't blame an entire religion of people for one person being a dumbass.
Is he really trying to say that "omg if I do something in a movie all these billions of people are going to be out to get me", what the hell ever. If that's not a dumbass I don't know what is...Oh wait I do know, someone who jumps on the hateful bandwagon and starts to slander an entire religion because of one persons remarks.
I'm Muslim and it is beyond insulting for someone to blame their dumbass decision on my religion....really makes me not want to see the movie no matter how good it looks.
By o07bohica at 1:47 PM ON 11/04/09
Just shows you how weak the United States has become. It's alright to destroy all the beliefs the U.S. stood for and was built on, but since Islam is the fastest growing religion now, people are afraid to stand up against it. Welcome to the New World Order. You might want to get a towel for your head.
By scrappy at 1:47 PM ON 11/04/09
OK he's afraid of a fattwah how about the Mal Occhio, or evil eye, the very Catholic Italians are good at that. I'm sick and tired of everyone thinking its OK to rag on Christians and Jews but we can't mess with Muslims! Well, stand up people and stand together. Boycott the movie or be sure to send him the Mal Occhio.
By equal opportunity at 1:48 PM ON 11/04/09
F*** this movie. If you're going to antagonize everybody's beliefs do it equally.
By Angel Greg at 1:49 PM ON 11/04/09
12/12/12 is only 3 years away. WTF is he afraid of a fatwa, for. I'm sure he could hide in a cave until the end. After all Rushdie hid out longer than that.
By boycott at 1:50 PM ON 11/04/09
if the movie is willing to destroy christian buildings and christian statues, then Arab icons should go to. I will not go to this movie and ask all Christians to do the same. BOYCOTT the movie
By islamicdogs at 1:51 PM ON 11/04/09
masitif...i dont follow any of the semitic religions. I am a non muslim. thats it.
By Muslims_are_dead_who_knew? at 1:51 PM ON 11/04/09
It's pretty funny that people keep saying they were anticipating this movie but now they won't see it. Are you frickin batshlt? This looks like one of the dumbest movies of all time. When will Hollywood start putting out more than one good movie per year again? Oh yeah, when masses of morons stop paying to see movies that are this bad just because the director spent some time and money on CGI explosions. You've seen it already! Unoriginal, uninspired.
By Kumabear76 at 1:52 PM ON 11/04/09
Many of you people seem to have no concept of life outside your country. As an American born in another country rule by a brutal dictator, I have seem firsthand the abuses and politics of racial and religious hatred. Here are some fact I would like to discuss:
When Adolf Hitler gathered millions of people (not just Jews, mind you!) and exterminated them, what religion did he follow? Christianity.
When the KKK kidnaps and lynches a black man and burns crosses in people's yards, what religion do they follow? Christianity.
When the Mafia immigrated from Sicily and terrorized many cities in the US, what religion did they follow? Christianity.
When the Mexican drug cartels kidnap, rape, & murder innocent people, what religion do they follow? Christianity.
My point is, you cannot label an entire religion based on the actions of a few. If so, I could say that all White people are ignorant bigoted murderers based on reports of the KKK's activities.
Have a little common sense people. There are currently Muslim extremist groups who HAVE committed crimes against people who offended them. Emmerich is being cautious, not cowardly. After all, it only takes one mislead person to kill him or his family. But if an entire extremist group decided to hunt him, them he's pretty screwed.
Besides, in all serious, a lot of you talk big, but how many of you are willing to log off right now, board a plane to the Middle-East, and tell Hezbollah. Hamas, or Al-Qaeda to go fuck themselves?
It's really comfortable talking big in that comfy little chair in a chat room under an anonymous name, isn't it?
Get over it, people. It's just a damned movie.
And BTW, I'm Catholic Republican American, and no, I don't support fundamentalist Muslim ideals.
By anonymous at 1:53 PM ON 11/04/09
No wonder they like to burn western flags and effigies. They think that'll get our panties in a wad like it would if we did it to them (at least it would for the "extremist"-wannabes in the west). Idiots!!!
We should just flood the world media with desecrations of Muslim symbols. That'll keep all them extremists busy trying to fulfill all the fatwa's that'll be issued.
By max at 1:54 PM ON 11/04/09
i hate you all specially christans and jews
By johnnyrotten47 at 1:55 PM ON 11/04/09
He should do a movie that completely destroys all of Islam.
By ggonza at 1:57 PM ON 11/04/09
I won't be going to see that movie as a result, and I might just avoid his other films...way to give these zealots power...and yes anyone who would issues a death sentence over a move is a zealot...too boot, how offensive to other people who follow other religions. This guy is a giant douche
By Max is an Idiot at 1:59 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey Max, you inbreed douchebag...the word is especially...I would slap the piss out-of-you
By Not Scared in Texas at 1:59 PM ON 11/04/09
The boy needs to grow some. He needs to be afraid of God not islam. If it was my movie the middle east would of been the first scene in the movie to go. Hopefully he left Touchdown Jesus stand at the Notre Dame field. Since hearing of this wont be going to see this movie
By What's Organized Religion? at 2:00 PM ON 11/04/09
I won't see this movie anyway because the whole End of Days theme is just getting too boring... aside from the fact that this particular movie is based on a gross misinterpretation of Mayan culture.
Oh, and anyone who thinks there aren't Christian fanatics (all religions, really) who would joyfully rape, pillage, and burn non-believers hasn't tried to have a coherent discussion with my son-in-law!
By Jason at 2:01 PM ON 11/04/09
You got it right every Freaking Soul Who Abhors Islam as a Religion as a whole Roland is no doubt one anti-religious bigots, You got it wrong here my dear friend " he'll easily attack Christianity or Judaism but does nothing to Muslims is that what u waned to say you Highly Educated Illiterate Folks " There is a catch behind this whole controversy by doing this he is trying to Prove that Islam is not a religion of peace , nor a religion of humanity/friendliness etc .All you need is one damn reason to pull some one into News .Well here is the one he got Now Behind Muslims ..... I do blame him for Instigating a Communal War among the People because this is the right time to spark up a topic and leave it to the people to spread it across , Christians and Jews are ones to strap bombs to there kids and send them out to blow up non-believers (This indeed is true its none other than America which has always been controlled by a bunch of Lunatic Jews that's been paying people to do this In fact they are compelling people from other countries none other than Arab and Afghanistan by luring them on the grounds of money .They know the peoples weakness in such places first they deprive them of food and basic amenities then drag them in such quagmire) . Hey Roland you are not an atheist but indeed you are one among those Jews who cant see Christians and Muslims traveling together in the same boat ...If you got some balls then let the people know the truth as to which religion do you really follow or believe in .Are u scared of being slapped with a Communal Suite ...Get a lifer U Loser
By johnnyrotten47 at 2:01 PM ON 11/04/09
I have and will again tell them what I think. Hezbollah. Hamas, or Al-Qaeda they are all a bunch of cowards and all their supporters and the cowards who won't stand up to them deserve what they get
By Whatthe... at 2:01 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm amazed you guys are falling for this CLOWN's hide the ball tactics. The issue here is NOT "Islamic terrorism", but the FACT that this is an openly anti-Christian, particularly anti-Catholic movie. All this talk about the muslim holy sites is SUPPOSED to distract you from the fact that a Talmud worshipping Zionist like Roland Emmerich HATES Christianity and destroys ALL of its iconic symbols in this movie, from Rio to the Vatican, even the Sistine Chappel. All you need to do is read the Talmud and their belief that Christ was a false prophet and boiling in a vat of hot excrement in hell to understand what drives the likes of Emmerich. Once you get that, the rest is easy. Note that NOT ONE synagogue was even flattened in this movie, and the "Wailing Wall" was not touched. THAT is the story, folks.
By stateside at 2:03 PM ON 11/04/09
Careful Emmerich,
If I see my Religious Icon of Ronald McDonald destroyed in this movie I might have to strap bombs to myself and all my followers and come find you.
Yea he is a wuss, or a straight up pussy.
Ronald McDonald is no more holy than this garbage he refuses to destroy, and to those that claim it is, show me why other than a bunch of idiots going there often. I mean people go to a lot of places often.
Look McDonalds has served over 99 billion people...
By Iwillgiveyouafatawa at 2:03 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland, here's my fatwa to you:YOU'RE A BIGOT and NO I will NOT see your hate filled so-called "movie."
I will paste your interview to all my church friends too.
By Jish at 2:04 PM ON 11/04/09
He can't be too smart if he doesn't see how the satan has infiltrated the church throughout history and created an antagonistic movement (Islam) against choice. The Koran calls all outsiders infidels, and commands that they must be subdued.
By islamicdogs at 2:04 PM ON 11/04/09
SCIFIWIRE....did you really have to take out my comment...? Thats the bloody truth....and you know it....Islam is a disease of the mind...
Leet me explain....
If some one came along who sort of resembled like jesus christ ....me a non christian along with the christians will kneel down and seek his blessing...even if he was a con....( shows we have a flexible mind, rational mind ).
Now if Mohammed himself came along with his 72 virgins to planet earth ....i can guarantee you that islams will get him beheaded. thats teh dilemma they are in. in a day they blurt out a million ALLAHS but have no idea what god is ( nobody has an idea what it, he or she is ). They greet Assalaamu walaykkum ( Peace be upon you ) a million times in a day but defenitly have no idea what PEACE is. Now If they cant understand the meaning of PEACE i doubt it they will ever find GOD. ( Islam = is slum, Is a phobia muslims re suffering from.)
FREEDOM......!
By Peace at 2:05 PM ON 11/04/09
kiss my ass johnnyrotten47
By Nelbass at 2:05 PM ON 11/04/09
Pathetic that he cannot distinguish between a religion and a language. Islam does not equal Arab. It's unfortunate that the majority of you haters don't even know what you hate. That should be a hint to you that you are simply intolerant as well as ignorant.
By muslimah at 2:05 PM ON 11/04/09
Just because muslims came more about their religion than others do about theirs does not make them extremists. Most of the comments here are very hurtful to muslims. Please get to know true muslims before saying hurtful things about them.
By Lorie at 2:06 PM ON 11/04/09
All I have to say is COWARD this is what this Country has become afraid , and in fear of these people because of their religious beliefs. Enough is enough already. I am so sick of worrying about insulting these people. I was going to see this movie but he can forget it now. I am going to make sure everyone knows how he would rather kill us off, and our beliefs, but not theirs because he is afraid of a bounty over his head. COWARD!
By juis at 2:06 PM ON 11/04/09
He can't be too smart if he doesn't see how the satan has infiltrated the church throughout history and created an antagonistic movement (Islam) against choice. The Koran calls all outsiders infidels, and commands that they must be subdued.
By Hoda at 2:09 PM ON 11/04/09
MACCA IS A MUSLIM SYMBOL NOT AN ARAB SYMBOL!
THERE ARE MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT ARE NON-ARAB ... when can people understand the difference! God!
By Stitcher at 2:09 PM ON 11/04/09
If he can't give equal time to all religions then he shouldn't have chosen any religious symbols/buildings to destroy. There are plenty of recognizable landmarks in this world that have no religious connotation whose destruction would have been equally awe inspiring. If you don't have bubblegum for the whole class then you can't have any bubblegum!
No question what he would have done had he lived during the Inquisition or the Salem witch trials.
By degriz at 2:09 PM ON 11/04/09
what a complete coward. i will share this review with everyone i know and will boycott this film and anything else this butthead makes.
By rana at 2:11 PM ON 11/04/09
most of the language used for Emmerich and Muslims does not seem to be coming from civilised people. Do not forget that out of one and a half billion muslims, those who kill in the name of religion are just few thousands. Muslims are not at all intolrent and uncivilised. We all need to correct our perspective and learn to respect each other's beliefs. Haterd begets haterd, let us spread message of love and peace for all.
By Bear at 2:11 PM ON 11/04/09
So, it's ok to destroy Christian symbols and world monuments but when it comes to anything muslim take the coward's way out and avoid it altogether? Now I'm offended and that means my family and I will boycott this movie and our friends and their families as well. If you're going to make a movie destroying the whole world then do just that.
I hope the terroists he's afraid of appreciate what he's done for them, but I doubt it.
By Iwillgiveyouafatawa at 2:12 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland, here's my fatawa to you: YOU ARE A BIGOT and NO I WILL NOT SEE YOUR HATE FILLED TRASH.
I hope and pray it fails that you LOSE money on it.
Why don't you get on your knees at bin Laden - terrorist sympathizer.
By roger at 2:12 PM ON 11/04/09
whats the big thing in destroying a Rubics Cube....I hope the next time you are passing a christian or Judaic place of worship you are struck by lightining...pussy
By Lorie at 2:13 PM ON 11/04/09
By muslimah at 2:05 PM ON 11/04/09
Just because muslims came more about their religion than others do about theirs does not make them extremists. Most of the comments here are very hurtful to muslims. Please get to know true muslims before saying hurtful things about them.
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You know what Muslimah don't go preaching peace to us Americans! We can't even go into your countries without being murdered because we are christians, and not a muslim. I don't see muslims being murdered here in america because of their religious beliefs. Why do your people insist on pushing your religion on others? If your religion was so true, and the chosen one wouldn't people come to it on their own? Why do you have use violence, and pushing things on people? Live, and let live quit pushing yourselves on us with your islam. We don't want it! We are happy being Christians and that is OUR choice!
By Islamicdogs at 2:13 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland, I have watched more movies at the theatres than the beers i have taken every weekend. But i will watch your movie not from a theatre but buy purchasing a pirated DVD. This not because of your opinion about islam in the movie. but becaue i am sick and tired of your earth destroying movies. I just hope mother earth will stop you.
By Tim at 2:13 PM ON 11/04/09
Once again the Christians get sand kick in there faces but don't touch a Muslim holy site cause they'll come after you,well you wanna know what I think? BRING IT ON!!!!! My God is an awesome God and don't forget it!!!
By qhk2 at 2:16 PM ON 11/04/09
to those haters of Islam.... you need to open your eyes and learn few things about it before making these false accusations. Islam is a peaceful religion. don't just look at few Muslims and say all the muslims are like that... that's really shallow minded and stupid judgment... there are some people in all religions that are extremist, so don't look at the people, look at the source......
By stateside at 2:16 PM ON 11/04/09
I said it once and I'll say it again.
This guy is a complete pussy!
if you are going to not believe do it equally.
Religion is a crutch for weak people.
Be a good person,
don't kill,
don't steal,
don't cheat on your wife,
love your family and friends.
Who needs a building or symbol for this?
By wwjd at 2:17 PM ON 11/04/09
What he means to say is it's ok to destroy Christian symbols because that's a religion of peace. It's not ok to destroy a symbol of islam because that is not a peaceful religion.
By Dave at 2:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Well,
I had planned on seeing this movie when it cam out but I just can't bring myself to support something like this. I'm certainly glad that this was brought to my attention before I gave them one dollar of my $$$.
By Lorie at 2:18 PM ON 11/04/09
These muslims have nothing nice to say what so ever about Christians, or Jews but yet they are peace loving people, who love and want harmony! Yeah right thousands of years of your fatwas and holy wars that never end but yet you want peace! Give it up with the lies! The truth is in front of everybodys faces everyday your blowing not only yourselves up, but innocent people. Maybe you need to discipline the people following your religion and punish them for harming others instead of calling them martyrs, and brave soldiers of islam. This is 2009 not the stone ages. Normal human beings shouldn't be acting like this following any religion. How anybody could sit there and think that GOD wants you to kill for him to show your loyalty and your going to go to heaven and get 72 virgins and rivers flowing of wine is beyond me! Which by the way I have a question..............why is it here on earth drinking booze is haram but in heaven you are going to have all you can drink booze bars up there? Isn't that a bit hypocritical ?
By Aya Saleh at 2:18 PM ON 11/04/09
i believe that each person should respect other religions even if u dont believe in it...why should we involve religious icons to be destroyed in a movie its not fun at all...
the Jewish,Christian,Muslim icons should not be offended in any kind of way.. there are thousand of other thing that can be destroyed in a movie arround the world...
i am a muslim and i respect all other religions
By durable13 at 2:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Since when are the rest of us bound to Islamic "law" and when did it start overriding our own constitution? Blow up the f**ckin thing for real and give them a taste of their own medicine. Liberal cowards. Remember Paris? Remember this?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0301-04.htm
BOYCOTT THIS WEAK MOVIE
By Islamicdogs at 2:19 PM ON 11/04/09
nelbassss...muslism all over the world no matter what language they speak.....gret each other with a bloody assalamu aleykum....! i know that.
By muslimah at 2:19 PM ON 11/04/09
I just wanted to say that reading all these hatred filled messages is making me cry. I still cannot believe that people hate Islam just because some dumbheads kill in the name of my religion. A few dumbhead's mistakes does not make a whole religion bad, you know.
By josh at 2:20 PM ON 11/04/09
Boycott this movie christians and jews!! He has no problem destroying churches and such but wont touch muslim sites?!!Hell with him and his movie!!!
By Bob at 2:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Time to have this guy stand before the Spainish inquisition !
By kemo at 2:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Let's not upset the Muslims---- oh no-- let them continue to do whatever they want, especially in our country-- how stupid are we
By Mark at 2:23 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland, SPINELESS WUSSY, WIMP, SISSY, and every other adjective too filthy to print in here.
By seawizard at 2:23 PM ON 11/04/09
I am a Muslim and I am very happy that he decided not to destroy it in the movie. I think other religions should tell him not to destroy their symbols either. Religion should always be respected. If other religions dont care about their symbols then, thats their problem. We care!
By mk at 2:24 PM ON 11/04/09
I would rather see SPAM (contains pork)dropped on the Hajj from a B-52.
By Bob at 2:24 PM ON 11/04/09
I dont hate islam because of dumbheads.. I hate islam because I READ THE KORAN !
I hate anything that tells people to kill..AND IT SAYS IT NO MATTER WHAT PEOPEPLE TRY AND DENY !
By jack brace at 2:24 PM ON 11/04/09
I heard in the rough draft he had Muhammad butt fucking a holy goat to appease Alah....
By blackjack at 2:26 PM ON 11/04/09
I can see where this guy is coming from. All of you crying hypocrite should be ashamed of yourselves. He blows up symbols of organized religion in his movie. So he's against organized religion (news flash, he's not the only one). But there's pretty much zero chance someone will kill him for destroying Christ the Redeemer (most Christians would say it's just a statue). Destroying the Kabba on the other hand could potentially jeapordize his safety. He's absolutely right. It's not worth it. It's easy to call him out on it when you're not personally running the risk of having to live like you're in the Witness Protection Program for the next decade or so...
By Hurk_jones at 2:26 PM ON 11/04/09
The world would be a better place with thse stinky hate filled Muslims....how can an entire 1 billion not just enjoy a good movie and take a joke.....all I'm saying.
Except for their women - if they would loose the headgear and wear some Revlon people would be stunned at how hot those chicks can look....WORD UP!
By NamingthePowers at 2:26 PM ON 11/04/09
I think everybody is missing the point. You've been arguing about religious issues. It's not about religion.The point is not about Islam and fatwas. (I'm not a Muslim either). Emmerich and his investors didn't want to loose the revenue from showing this movie in non-Western countries. They surely would have had the movie banned in countries with Islamic majorities and in countries where the governments don't want strife from the Islamic minorities. If you think of it, that is a HUGE chunk of the world and a huge chunk of money that they would loose internationally and with this kind of techno-driven film, they can't afford that loss. As a friend of mine always says, "Follow the money." The fatwas line is a good story, but let's not miss the point; its about profits.
By Lorie at 2:26 PM ON 11/04/09
By rana at 2:11 PM ON 11/04/09
most of the language used for Emmerich and Muslims does not seem to be coming from civilised people. Do not forget that out of one and a half billion muslims, those who kill in the name of religion are just few thousands. Muslims are not at all intolrent and uncivilised. We all need to correct our perspective and learn to respect each other's beliefs. Haterd begets haterd, let us spread message of love and peace for all.
Your not all uncivil? Then why does a muslim Father kill his own daughter if he thinks she committed a sin like having sex unmarried? Because she was raped? She showed shame to the family and her religion so kill her? Isn't that GODS job to judge who sins, and who doesn't? GOD said judge not lest be judged and what does your people do? You are judging and taking punishment into your own hands! That is wrong on so many levels. Wanting to kill people because they believe, or live the way you want them live doesn't make it right to murder people and use GOD , or a religion as an excuse for doing so! And if your people are becoming extremists, and thinking this is the way they should be behaving to please your God, then maybe you need to look into a few things in your teachings, and your religion. THE TRUE GOD, would never say to kill someone for not following his word, or a religion. There is a place for those people who sin, or don't obey GOD, that is HELL. That is GODS judgement. Again, it is not up to ISLAM to judge, punishment and send to death for sins, or because someone doesn't believe in your religion, or beliefs.
By Danial at 2:27 PM ON 11/04/09
"You know what Muslimah don't go preaching peace to us Americans! We can't even go into your countries without being murdered because we are christians, and not a muslim."
Are you serious? It's quite obvious you have never visited outside of your small town to even have a clue.
Here's a thought: if you stop invading other countries under false pretenses, the Christians in Iraq (who have been living in the country for over a millennia) wouldn't have to pay a dear price for your actions.
If what you said was true, then how come a majority of the tourist dollars in countries like Egypt, Turkey, UAE, and Indonesia, to name a few, come from people in Christian countries? How come there are still ancient Christian minorities living in Muslim countries to this day?
"I don't see muslims being murdered here in america because of their religious beliefs."
Um, a Muslim woman in Germany was stabbed 17 times in a German courtroom because of her faith.
A couple of Muslim women were nearly run over by a anti-Islamic bigot in NYC because he hated Muslims.
What are you on, Lorie?
"Why do your people insist on pushing your religion on others?"
Try telling that to the Crusaders, the conquistadores, the Lord's Resistance Army, the Serb paramilitary who slaughtered Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims, or Blackwater.
Christianity has a worse record of forced conversions than any other faith. Anywhere Christianity took hold, indigenous beliefs were wiped out. Look what happened in the Americas during the 1500's. Ancient glorious civilizations were wiped out when European colonialists forcibly converted the natives to Christianity. You should be the last to talk about forced conversions sweetie.
"If your religion was so true, and the chosen one wouldn't people come to it on their own? Why do you have use violence, and pushing things on people?"
See above, this is just another example of the pot calling the kettle black.
"Live, and let live quit pushing yourselves on us with your islam. We don't want it!"
How about you Evangelical fanatics stop pushing your McDonald's brand of Christianity on us when you invade Muslim countries such as Iraq? They don't want your faith, and neither do Orthodox and Catholics either.
"We are happy being Christians and that is OUR choice! "
I am happy being a Muslim, and it is my choice as well.
Thank you for your time.
By BAredneck at 2:29 PM ON 11/04/09
This is utterly rediculous. Emmerich states that he can allow a Chhristian symbol to be destroyed but not an Islamic symbol. This is complete bull****. How can anyone who says they believe in religious tolerance take symbols from different religions and then elevate one over another. There is all this hype about how great Islam is and how American's need to be nice to them and what not. But, what about Christians? The United States was founded on christian principles, if you disagree with that you are a moron. But, now with all this political correctness crap and "tolerance" christians are hated more and more. How can anyone say they are tolerent, espcially in media, espcially when they pull stunts like this.
By Dionysus at 2:29 PM ON 11/04/09
this is one reason i will not be going to this movie...what a pussyit just goes to show you its ok to attack christianity but beware of upsetting the religion of peace...what a joke
By angry sicilian at 2:29 PM ON 11/04/09
Time to ressurect the Crusades.
I declare "Catholic Fatwah" if the Vatican is destroyed.
(Sounds silly, doesn't it? Just like the originators of "Fatwah.")
By RAMI at 2:31 PM ON 11/04/09
ALLAH (GOD) IS THE ONE THAT PROTECTS THE KAABA FORM EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. THEIR IS NOTHING THAT CAN HARM IT. THE KAABA DOESN'T NEED ANY ARMY IT HAS ALLAH TO PROTECT IT. WE ALL HAVE ALLAH IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM THE RIGHT WAY. SO STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM AND DON'T WAIST YOUR TIME IN TRYING TO THINK OF DESTROYING THE KAABA CAUSE ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WATCH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT ISLAM BECAUSE YOU ARE DISRESPECTING YOUR ALLAH TOO. OR HE WILL PUT A FATWA ON YOU. NOW YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ALLAH NOT THE ARABS
By Dan at 2:31 PM ON 11/04/09
Lorie, when you condemn the actions of Evangelical Christians and their thirst for war against the "invading Muslim hordes" by making up lies to invade their countries, then you can talk about their flaws.
Until then, you should simply shut up because you don't have a leg to stand on. Don't you have an abortion clinic to bomb, or to assassinate doctors who perform abortions? Your kind is simply no better than those whom you condemn. I thank God/Allah every day that I am not like you people.
By stateside at 2:32 PM ON 11/04/09
MK,
BEST COMMENT EVER.
End of story.
By gasman at 2:34 PM ON 11/04/09
So, the director is afraid that the "Peace Loving Muslims" would give him a death threat. HYPOCRITE! Then You should not have destroyed ANY RELIGIOUS ICONS in the movie. If you are afraid of one, then you should be afraid of all. So, What if the muslim shrined was destroyed in the movie! In real life, it would have been destroyed and then what? the muslims would have threatened GOD with Death? If you want to make a realistic movie, you don't spare one and not the other. I was thinking of going to see it but, if you are too cowardly to show a movie where everything is destroyed but one religious shrine, you are giving credence that that religion is better than the others. So, I take it your faith is COWARD!!!!
By NRF at 2:35 PM ON 11/04/09
I think the readers need to also realize that Mecca is not 'a' icon of Islam. It is 'the' icon of Islam. We believe it to be the symbol that God himself asked Abraham to construct on Earth, his 'house' per se. Most Muslims will not be offended if the writer had shown mosques being destroyed in the movie in the destruction of the Earth. Mosques have the same significance to us as any church does to a christian. Most Muslims would feel kind of excited to see their cities shown in the movie. But Mecca? No, the majority of us would be offended to see it destroyed.
And I must say, I am very scared of the amount of hatred I usually see online in such forums, not just against Muslims, but against Christians, Jews, Hindus, women, Asians, Latinos, Blacks, etc etc. Why are online forums always a means of spreading hatred?
By snakedance at 2:35 PM ON 11/04/09
Wake up America! What the hell is wrong with you. Simply boycott the damn movie, and put them out of business.
By Chaos007 at 2:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Well.......sounds like I have a reason not to see this movie now. Don't think I can support a movie that has no problem with the destruction of Christian symbols yet will not touch an Islamic one....I say keep it fair, destroy them all evenly or spare all religious symbols. I know its just a movie, and nothing to get worked up over, but its still bias.
By blackjack at 2:36 PM ON 11/04/09
"Try telling that to the Crusaders, the conquistadores, the Lord's Resistance Army, the Serb paramilitary who slaughtered Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims, or Blackwater.
Christianity has a worse record of forced conversions than any other faith. Anywhere Christianity took hold, indigenous beliefs were wiped out"
Hold up, before the Muslims swept up out of Arabia and spread thoughout Asia, eventually threatening Vienna. Before all that. Who lived in the Middle East? Jews, Christians, Zoroatrians. And when the Muslims conquered those areas was it a military conquest or a peaceful assimiliation? If you're going to hate on the Crusaders you need to put it into the appropriate context.
By ratss at 2:37 PM ON 11/04/09
well ISLAM IS A religion of peace , and will not accept any thing that would touch its pride THE KAABA is the most important thing to muslems, and no one can ever ever touch it, its guards are invisible . + i though christianty was a religon with pride , how can u christian followers accept that the symbol of your religion would be affected by such a idiots, with no matters, no phylosophy in life, waiting for reply
By angalopez at 2:37 PM ON 11/04/09
It's not a fear of Allah or a disrespect for the other religions that made him leave it out. It's a fear of the LUNATICS (curious their symbol is a moon....) called muslims. For his next film, he can film me taking a big old deuce on the kaaba ... stick that in you hookah and smoke it Rami.
By stateside at 2:38 PM ON 11/04/09
RAMI,
If i had a terminal illness or nothing to live for i would totally prove you wrong.
But i am in neither situation.
Man does not need an organized religion to be a good person.
People who make claims like this guy Rami, are weak people.
A line for Indecision:
For those i love i will sacrifice,
Not for those i never see.
By Dan at 2:38 PM ON 11/04/09
"Why are online forums always a means of spreading hatred?"
Because they are too cowardly to express it online. If they express it openly, they would most likely suffer a beating. It's the same with those who make caricatures of black people within their setting, but they would never express it openly.
Hence why the idiots posting on here calling Roland a coward should take a good look at themselves.
By IamPROLIFE at 2:38 PM ON 11/04/09
Dan, your mother should have aborted you for your stupid comment regarding Christians and abortion.
Since you're a guy you most likely don't give a darn that abortion kills a developing baby human - males included.
By FilmGuy at 2:38 PM ON 11/04/09
Here's one for your writer, Rolland... don't take credit for it.
Why not? It's happened so many times in cinema that it's a running joke. At the end of the day, the ego would rather have its name in big letters and smack western world spirituality, and bow down to the perceived threat of a 'fatwa' then take his name out of the credits under 'writer'.
I just found the final reason why I'm no longer even the least bit interested in the film.
It's hilariously biased.
By What's Organized Religion? at 2:39 PM ON 11/04/09
muslimah, I'm afraid we are both trying to stem an unbelievable tide of bigotry and hatred. I cry for those who say these horrible things in the name of their religion. To all of you who spout hate in the name of Christianity - Jesus weeps for you.
By mropenyen at 2:39 PM ON 11/04/09
WOW! I can't believe what a COWARD Roland is. He's cowardly and he loses credibility in being an A-list produce. Are you telling me his millions can't buy him protection from people he's afraid of? 2. How credible can his movie be when he's afraid to destroy a cube over his fear of his life? Also, if the "true" muslim was to see this movie, he would guilty of his own sin (watching a movie), so who is he to judge someone else's actions? Irony: Roland sits back and gets a laugh out of all our comments condemning his cowardness, because he thinks, "Well I'm still making millions." But yet, doesn' trust those millions to protect his life from muslims = COWARD. I pray for God's wrath to be upon him, may not be very biblical, but God must be feared and I pray God makes Himself known through the errogance and cowardness of Roland. Christians do not worship symbols as the vatican and the Christ statue, but we do respect their significance, just as you would expect a visitor to do in your house. Roland said in regards to the Vatican falling, "The whole Vatican kind of tips and kind of rolls over the people. It said something, because in the story, some people ... believe in praying and prayer, and they pray in front of the church, and it's probably the wrong thing, what they would do in that situation." How ironic he would choose to leave another symbol of prayer, where does he think all the muslims will be huddling around when this destruction is going on? Again, loss of credibility and gain in cowardness. I agree, Christians and non-Christian AMERICANS should boycott this movie. Is Roland an American native, I don't know, I just wondering. WOW what a slap to the face of the American people and the world for that matter. Boycott all his movies and pray that the news media will report on the issue and speak of Roland's cowardness and those involved in the movie for not speaking up. Looks like their "creativity" has turned to COWARDNESS. I guess Roland is relying on his millions to support him but not to protect him. Sorry Roland, but what good is money if there's not protecting it? You will be judged. I will do my part in not supporting the film. God judges, not allah. Their "rewards" are not even eternal; they get so many 'virgins' once they get to 'paradise', well, tell me, what good or how important are those virgins after a man has been with them? The whole muslim faith, which isn't faith if it requires actions to be saved, is evil and inconsistent. Even their 'paradise' is flawed. DO NOT WATCH THIS UNREALISTIC AND MUSLIM PROMOTING MOVIE!
By ta2boi69 at 2:39 PM ON 11/04/09
good to know where this gutless shitheads priorities are and reason enough NOT to go see this snooze-arama. F**k the muslims!!! if this doesnt show the rest of the world what a disgusting threat these vermin have become, nothing will!
By mad as hell at 2:39 PM ON 11/04/09
I think people should boycot the movie then..
By steve hash at 2:41 PM ON 11/04/09
Actualy Islam is peacefull...but if u read these comments , 98% of the people that commented are uneducated abut islam.
get ur shyt right !
By Dan at 2:42 PM ON 11/04/09
ta2boi69, is this you?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=91760213
Let's see how tough you are now, coward. My, what a Google search comes up with. Bloody poofter.
By islam h8er at 2:43 PM ON 11/04/09
Complete BS, they (f*uckin' muslums) win a little battle every time someone lets them intimidate their decisions.
By sara at 2:43 PM ON 11/04/09
its in the Qur'an (Holy book of Islam) that the world will end in 2012. He should have done more research. It wouldnt have offended the followers of Islam.
By AverageJoe at 2:43 PM ON 11/04/09
Yeah, I think Mr. Emmerich really shot himself in the foot on this one. What could have been a real blockbuster of a movie is going to nose dive before it even hits theaters. He could have destroyed the world without shining the spotlight on ANY organized religion... period. Afterall, isn't that what people are really going to see?
By hopi at 2:44 PM ON 11/04/09
Isn't it time somebody destroyed hollywood?
By Slarty Bartfast at 2:45 PM ON 11/04/09
How sad is it when nearly 1/5th of the planet has a dangerous mental problem that causes the other 4/5ths to tip-toe around lest they be killed in a fit of religious love...
By PHOENIX53 at 2:45 PM ON 11/04/09
Once again the muslims are controlling people with fear! If you wer truly against organized religion you would have blown up the kaaba first since this religion is run like a military regime. Come on people let's use some common sense (although I realize this is a rare commodity these days)!!!!!!!
By whozincharge at 2:45 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey, one thing us Christians and Jews alike can do is boycott the movie. Let the Muslim extremist in their mud huts go watch the movie.
By rick at 2:46 PM ON 11/04/09
What a coward. Why does he fear the religion of peace?
By Mark at 2:47 PM ON 11/04/09
blackjack - forgot something about Christians - they don't fly human occupied jetliners into human occupied office buildings.
Remember 9/11/2001.
By Stand Up at 2:49 PM ON 11/04/09
Boycott this movie.....I'm tired of Hollywood pushing Christianity around. I'm tired of laws stating we can't say "Merry Christmas". I'm tired of this place stating what we can and can't do, Boycott this shitty movie.
By HolyWarrior at 2:49 PM ON 11/04/09
We have won once again. The increased level of violence this decade has put fear in the hearts of the infidel. Allahu Akbar!
By steve hash at 2:51 PM ON 11/04/09
you mindless people need to understand that he isnt scared of muslims he's scared of law suits....!!
most muslim wouldnt retalyate against him they would just boycott the movie...
he is playing it safe by not offending anyone WHO ACTUALLY RESPECTS AND CARES ABOUT THERE RELIGION..
.christians just believe that u can f*ck and smoke crack and drink and sin all week....then go to church sunday and all your sins are washed away by jesuses blood....lol
and i think jesus ran out of blood.
By Aijaz at 2:52 PM ON 11/04/09
His thinking is sick, is it necesary to destroy everything in the movie? ... who is he? is he God.. NO... Please have respect each others believes.
By Dan at 2:53 PM ON 11/04/09
"Hold up, before the Muslims swept up out of Arabia and spread thoughout Asia, eventually threatening Vienna. Before all that. Who lived in the Middle East? Jews, Christians, Zoroatrians. And when the Muslims conquered those areas was it a military conquest or a peaceful assimiliation? If you're going to hate on the Crusaders you need to put it into the appropriate context."
Do your research Einstein. Jews were brought back to the Holy Land after Umar ibn al-Khattab kicked out the Byzantines. They were exiled until then, and they were allowed freedom to practice their faith. There are still Zoroastrians practicing their faith in Iran (I know because I have visited Iran and seen it firsthand). There are 400,000 Christians in Iran, and there used to be a flourishing Christian minority in Iraq before you Republican hypocrites invaded it under false pretenses. It is because of your bullshit war that is why Christians are suffering in Iraq. Christians in Palestine are a declining due to the bullshit Israeli occupation. Ask any Palestinian Christian who they view as a threat, and it is always the Israelis because they stole their land that was not theirs in the first place.
When the Arabs defeated the Byzantines in Egypt, they were welcomed as liberators by the Coptic Christians because the Copts were persecuted by the Byzantines as heretics as a result of rejecting the Council of Chalcedon. Today, they still represent 10% of the population in Egypt, so there goes your theory of non-existent Christians.
When the Inquisition was undergoing in the Iberian Peninsula, guess where all the Sephardic Jews fled to? Ottoman Turkey. In fact, a Portuguese Jew by the name of Samuel Usque saw Turkey as a safe refuge from the evils of the Inquisition. It is them that allowed Jews to practice their faith freely and contribute to the empire.
And finally, the Crusades were done because the Roman Catholic Church wanted to expand their empire because they saw the Eastern Orthodoxy as a threat to their existence. If what you said was true, then you wouldn't have seen so many Muslims, Jews, and Greek Orthodox Christians slaughtered mercilessly by the marauding Frankish forces.
You want to get owned again? Be my guest. You clearly demonstrated that you have no clue on what you are spewing.
By anonymous_222 at 2:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Just another example of the religion of peace controlling and maniplating with terror and threats. Doesn't anyone of the Islamic faith see the hypocracy of calling themselves a peacful religion, yet issuing death warrants for an author of a book, or the creator of a cartoon? Get with the times, EVERYONE else in the world sees it, and we don't buy the peacful religion rhetoric you espouse. Christian symbols are being "destroyed" (it is, afterall only a movie - but then again Satanic Versus was only a book.....) in this movie....but hey, guess what, not ONE Christian leader will be calling for the death of the director because of the movie. That is more a peacful religion if you ask me.
By Snowday at 2:55 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm offended he's destroying anybody's spiritual sybols, frankly. Won't be going.
By Fmus12 at 2:56 PM ON 11/04/09
I dont understand all the hate for Islam that is happening because of this story. Muslims have not made a comment about this at all. These people are making assumptions that we will get mad. I dont see a fatwa occuring over a movie scene like this. Muslims have done nothing here, all that has happened is that people assume we are crazy. Please stop being so ignorant and grow up. some one posted it is agains our religion to go watch a movie. That is not true either.
By Dan at 2:56 PM ON 11/04/09
"blackjack - forgot something about Christians - they don't fly human occupied jetliners into human occupied office buildings.
Remember 9/11/2001."
No, but they did express no shame in dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wiping out half a million people within a blink of an eye. After all, didn't a priest bless the Enola Gay prior to unleashing a torrent of terror upon innocent Japanese who had nothing to do with the crimes of Imperial Japan, much the same way that normal Americans who were in the WTC had nothing to do with US foreign policy?
Remember 8/6 and 8/9/1945
By ljn at 2:57 PM ON 11/04/09
From Hollywood to the terrorists and extremists of the world: "You win, we're scared of you!"
Why not roll over and show your bellies, cowards!
A bunch of liberal pussies!
By blackjack at 2:57 PM ON 11/04/09
"you mindless people need to understand that he isnt scared of muslims he's scared of law suits....!!
most muslim wouldnt retalyate against him they would just boycott the movie..."
You don't need most muslims to retaliate, you just need one. I bet Theo Van Gogh would have prefered a lawsuit to being shot, stabbed and nearly decapitated. In that context, I don't blame this guys decision at all.
By Jeever at 2:58 PM ON 11/04/09
He is a pussy, that is all.
By gasman at 2:59 PM ON 11/04/09
I keep hearing that islam is a faith of peace. This is true so long as you are muslim. If you are of any other religion, you are to be killed as an ifidel or nonbeliver of muslim. That is the standard and if you kill non belivers in the eyes of Allah, you will go to heaven. Now, I understand that most of the major religions preach peace as the way of the Supreme Being they believe in. But, Allah must be a different type of God that believes in death to all that don't believe in him. So, I infer that Allah is a Death God and the Koran a book of death.
By tokiaszu at 2:59 PM ON 11/04/09
What a WHIMP ! ! a cube of granite and some artifcat----so what !!!! after all they are just things-------I guess hes just not ready for someone dressed in a mask to come gunning at his door, or blow up his house....
By muslimboi at 3:00 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is a religion of peace and we respect our religion. Even in the quran it tells us to respect other religions aka christianity and judaisim. the islam all u iggnorant muther fuckers are talking about is the "islam of osama bin ladin and his type of muslims are not muslim they are indeed terrorists. I as a muslim also believe they should be burned yet just like there are christian extremists there is also muslim extremeists....!!
people need to stop being so closed minded and open up ur minds and look up the real islam and not the islam CNN or FOX NEWS try to portray to you.
By NordonPl at 3:02 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is the only true religion.
That is why we Muslims protest when our religious symbols are desecrated (Of course I condemn killing someone for it). All other religions are man made and that is why their followers have no real faith in their hearts. (Did you know Christians are not supposed to commit adultery and eat pork - Chapter 11 in Leviticus Verse 6) . There is a play part of the "Glasgay" festival that shows Jesus (PBUH) as a transsexual! Where is the Christian anger? Obviously none cause its impossible to have true faith with a fake religion.
Btw why should someone even try to make insulting images in the first place!?? You will NEVER see a true Muslim tear up a Bible or Torah or insult it with nasty images. (Forget the Taliban and the Buddha statues, they are nutcases). If we say images of our Prophet are not allowed THEN WHY THE HELL PROVOKE US BY MAKING THEM. Its like slapping us, what would you do if sumone slaps, u... kik his @ss of course!
Allah is the creator of this universe and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as the last guidance. Islam touches every corner of life and following Islam leads everyone to lead a happy and succesful life.
Btw Suicide Bombers should go to hell since they kill themselves (suicide is haram), and they kill innocent people. In Shariah, during war you are not supposed to hurt women, children, and even TREES!
READ THE QURAN IN ENGLISH IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME... THEN U WILL LEARN TRUE ISLAM... AND WILL FIND PEACE IN UR HEARTS!
By MonAcleJ at 3:02 PM ON 11/04/09
The human race is a mass of hypocritical scum (GOD must be so embarrassed by us) that should be totally exterminated, None of you focus on the important message all faith should teach "Love, Tolerance and understanding" we all deserve to die. Until the end of the world comes, Long live end of the world movies!
By artanix at 3:02 PM ON 11/04/09
I thought islam is a religion of peace, guess I'm wrong ... lol
By Mark at 3:03 PM ON 11/04/09
Dan, those 2 atom bombs were dropped to end the war the Japs started first, bozobrain.
Remember Pearl Harbor on 12/7/2009 so you don't look so stupid next time.
By slada at 3:03 PM ON 11/04/09
I do not know if “Roland Emmerich won't destroy: an Islamic landmark” means that he is ‘Wuss” or he has a “problem with Christianity” or even if “Islam was "The religion of peace"”. I do know that many people that call them self’s Christians (me included) are disgrace to their religion. The fact that we do not get upset by Jesus being part of a cartoon making fun of him is just one example.
I am not saying that we all should grab knifes and swear revenge on anybody insulting our religious views, landmarks or saints but to be a little upset about it and just publicly condemn it in stead of giving millions of dollars in support of its destruction would maybe be a little step in right direction.
Just a thought.
By Jeever at 3:03 PM ON 11/04/09
I spew my jizm all over Roland Sackless Emmerich.
By NordonPL at 3:03 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is the only true religion
That is why we Muslims protest when our religious symbols are desecrated (Of course I condemn killing someone for it). All other religions are man made and that is why their followers have no real faith in their hearts. (Did you know Christians are not supposed to commit adultery and eat pork - Chapter 11 in Leviticus Verse 6) . There is a play part of the "Glasgay" festival that shows Jesus (PBUH) as a transsexual! Where is the Christian anger? Obviously none cause its impossible to have true faith with a fake religion.
Btw why should someone even try to make insulting images in the first place!?? You will NEVER see a true Muslim tear up a Bible or Torah or insult it with nasty images. (Forget the Taliban and the Buddha statues, they are nutcases). If we say images of our Prophet are not allowed THEN WHY THE HELL PROVOKE US BY MAKING THEM. Its like slapping us, what would you do if sumone slaps, u... kik his @ss of course!
Allah is the creator of this universe and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as the last guidance. Islam touches every corner of life and following Islam leads everyone to lead a happy and succesful life.
Btw Suicide Bombers should go to hell since they kill themselves (suicide is haram), and they kill innocent people. In Shariah, during war you are not supposed to hurt women, children, and even TREES!
READ THE QURAN IN ENGLISH IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME... THEN U WILL LEARN TRUE ISLAM... AND WILL FIND PEACE IN UR HEARTS!
By Etruscan at 3:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam continues to show it's evil and
everyone caves in. Wake Up!
If he does not have the courage to carry out
all of his scenes, he should not be making
any movies.
Don't see it. I won't.
By gasman at 3:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Holywarrior. your rag on your head is full of crap and you must use your right hand to dig it out and eat it!
By In My Opinion at 3:04 PM ON 11/04/09
It's a MOVIE wait wait let me rephrase that
it's a MOVIE inspired by a Mayan Beleif that predates everything we know now....
Check it out it on the net.
Has nothing to do with religion . But when you have a group of people who are willing to Kill because they feel offended by what they see in a MOVIE you must think twice. Maby the same kind of people who participated in 9/11 ... you must think twice... If this guy decides to go ahead anyway and destroy the " Cube " will he have an " Army " to protect him if those " fanatics " decide to do away with him...? dont think so...
I personally do not beleive in any religion in the world. I do not beleive in the religious GOD either. But I do respect everyones opinion and beleifs.
Once again it's a MOVIE and if the worl is going to be destroyed does't it really matter what religion you are in or not . Just enjoy the movie and take it for what it is.
US Humans think we are all that .. when we are really nothing in that universe that we cant even begin to understand ...
But we are so full of ourselves that we think we Know it all .. How animal is that . at least they dont think.. but we do ...
then again maby we dont ...
It's a MOVIE..
By blackjack at 3:05 PM ON 11/04/09
No, but they did express no shame in dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wiping out half a million people within a blink of an eye. After all, didn't a priest bless the Enola Gay prior to unleashing a torrent of terror upon innocent Japanese who had nothing to do with the crimes of Imperial Japan, much the same way that normal Americans who were in the WTC had nothing to do with US foreign policy?
innocent Japanese who had nothing to do with crimes of Imperial Japan? Alright. Forget the massive aid that poured into Japan after the war, forget alliances that followed, are you an idiot or is this what passes for education these days. The Kure shipyard just a few miles from Hiroshima built the largest battleship ever made, the Yamato. Yeah, nothing to do with the crimes of Imperial Japan...unless of course you count making the weapons and providing the soldiers and sailors that made up the army and navy of Imperial Japan.
By blondie at 3:06 PM ON 11/04/09
People have become way too "politically correct" in this country. People can't be or say what they want to for fear of hurting someone else's feelings. People need to grow a backbone and get over themselves.
It's a WORK OF FICTION, people. Who cares what is destroyed, it's all fake!
By Kate at 3:07 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm not going to waste my money.
And the latest from the radical muslims...they have gone to strapping bombs to little children because they are so innocent and have no idea what's really happening to them.
That's a god I can live without.
This is movie is more garbage I can live without.
By Mariela at 3:08 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm sure that when Christ returns and destroys all evil in this earth that Satan is ruling, Emmerich will not be left out from the destruction nor will any false religious symbols or places of worship of false Gods!
By Remember9112001 at 3:08 PM ON 11/04/09
muslimboi - We Americans DON'T need CNN nor FOX News to show us what Islam is.
We have 9/22/2001 to remember what Islam is. Just ask bin Laden.
By metsfan at 3:09 PM ON 11/04/09
Figures! Even in fiction movies anything and anyone can be insulted as long as the brave artists know it won't cost THEM anything to be truthful.
By Dan at 3:10 PM ON 11/04/09
"innocent Japanese who had nothing to do with crimes of Imperial Japan? Alright. Forget the massive aid that poured into Japan after the war, forget alliances that followed, are you an idiot or is this what passes for education these days. The Kure shipyard just a few miles from Hiroshima built the largest battleship ever made, the Yamato. Yeah, nothing to do with the crimes of Imperial Japan...unless of course you count making the weapons and providing the soldiers and sailors that made up the army and navy of Imperial Japan."
You moron, you know anyone can make a similar argument by justifying the murder of American citizens by what you cited?
Congratulations, you rationalized the murder of civilians with your sick pathetic garbage.
As for Mark, this isn't the 1940's anymore so kindly refrain from using the term "Japs". I have a problem with civilians being solely targeted in time of war. As much as I hold disgust over what occurred at Pearl Harbor, it is important to note that they were soldiers, not civilians. I don't have a problem with fighting other soldiers, because that is war after all. But civilians should not be targeted at any cost whatsoever.
I used to think like you and blackjack until I actually visited Hiroshima during the 60th anniversary in 2005. Maybe if you witness the destruction it brought first hand, it would change your mind. Maybe.
By slada at 3:10 PM ON 11/04/09
it does not matter that is a move and work of fiction. Some things in our lives shouls remain sacred. Dont Insult it, don’t undermine its meaning to millions of people. Islam, Christian , Hindu its is sacred to milions. Show some repect.
By jrf1961 at 3:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland, You are a PUSSY!!!!!!
By NordonPL at 3:11 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is the only true religion.
That is why we Muslims protest when our religious symbols are desecrated (Of course I condemn killing someone for it). All other religions are man made and that is why their followers have no real faith in their hearts. (Did you know Christians are not supposed to commit adultery and eat pork - Chapter 11 in Leviticus Verse 6) . There is a play part of the "Glasgay" festival that shows Jesus (PBUH) as a transsexual! Where is the Christian anger? Obviously none cause its impossible to have true faith with a fake religion.
Btw why should someone even try to make insulting images in the first place!?? You will NEVER see a true Muslim tear up a Bible or Torah or insult it with nasty images. (Forget the Taliban and the Buddha statues, they are nutcases). If we say images of our Prophet are not allowed THEN WHY THE HELL PROVOKE US BY MAKING THEM. Its like slapping us, what would you do if sumone slaps, u... kik his @ss of course!
Allah is the creator of this universe and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as the last guidance. Islam touches every corner of life and following Islam leads everyone to lead a happy and succesful life.
Btw Suicide Bombers should go to hell since they kill themselves (suicide is haram), and they kill innocent people. In Shariah, during war you are not supposed to hurt women, children, and even TREES!
READ THE QURAN IN ENGLISH IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME... THEN U WILL LEARN TRUE ISLAM... AND WILL FIND PEACE IN UR HEARTS!
By Logical at 3:11 PM ON 11/04/09
U people have a sickness. When ur mother is being nude raped and ravished in front of ur eyes u not even moved. U know why, bcoz its just a movie bro. Open ur eyes west. Be realistic. And where is all that boasting gone,"respecting ones religious sentiments".
By jack at 3:11 PM ON 11/04/09
It's obvious that Emmerich hates Christianity with a vengeance. He destroys the statue of Christ the Redeemer because he says he does not believe in organized religion but is deathly afraid of a fatwaa being issued by the clerics of an organized religion. I also note that (not surprisingly) nothing from the Jewish faith is touched. As usual, Christianity is always fair game, but none of the other religions can be touched. But then again, Christians were warned from the beginning that they will be hated by this world because of Christ's sake. This movie is a perfect example from our times.
By Remember9112001 at 3:11 PM ON 11/04/09
muslimboi - We Americans don't need CNN or Fox News to be closed minded about Islam.
You can thank bin Laden on 9/11/2001 for that.
By Eric Cartman at 3:12 PM ON 11/04/09
BlackJack,you know nothing about history..If you did,you would know it was either whale and dolphin or cow and chicken that flew the Enola Gay...
By tecvba at 3:12 PM ON 11/04/09
So all a person or group has to do to be treated fairly in a movie these days is scare the c**p out of the movie moguls. Interesting.
By 22 at 3:12 PM ON 11/04/09
blondie and blackjack are queers and Roland Emmerich is a pathetic loser!
By madbros at 3:12 PM ON 11/04/09
Cowards. No integrity.
By yahoo at 3:14 PM ON 11/04/09
i will boycott with u...
what i want to say is that JESUS THE ALMIGHTY GOD LOVES U. WHO EVER U R. HE DIED FOR YOU ON THE CROSS TO CROSS AWAY UR SINS. THAT'S WHY HE IS CALLED THE REDEEMER!
THE ONLY WAY TO GO TO HEAVEN IS BY BELIEVING IN JESUS CHRIST!
ALL OTHER RELIGIONS OFFER PEACE. AND ALL THOSE "PEACE" PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HELL.
YOU MUST REPENT TO GO TO HEAVEN
GOD BLESS YOU!!!
By tony montana at 3:14 PM ON 11/04/09
I believe its not up to you and him to destroy what ever you want. If your relegion symbol doesn't mean nothing to you, that doesnt mean that all people do the same. Islamic relegion is very sensetive when it comes into relegion and especially symbols. Roland Emmerich is a smart guy. He didnt destrou kabaa not because he likes, but its money wise. If he destroy kabaa 35000000 million people will not watch the movie even the goverments in the islamic countries wont allow the movie to be seen in there.
By Fa The Arab at 3:14 PM ON 11/04/09
LISTEN ALL...YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT ISLAM, YOU ARE ENTITLED. BUT I DO REQUIRE YOU ALL TO DO YOUR THOROUGH RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOU IDIOTIC MOUTHS. YOU ONLY PROVE WHY AMERICA IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO EDUCATION...AND INTELLIGENCE.....AND GUESS WHAT....I AM A NYC BORN (AND LOVING) CITIZEN....AND...I TEACH U.S HISTORY. THAT IS WHY WE NEW YORKERS ALWAYS SAY...THERE IS AMERICA (LAND OF UNINTELLIGENT ) AND THERE IS NEW YORK (LAND OF THE INTELLIEGENCE AND OPENED MIND)
By HHPP at 3:14 PM ON 11/04/09
Unbelievable, it seems the world fears insulting Muslims. This is exactly what the extremest wanted. I give props to the Danish for printing the comic and I give props to India for not putting up with any Muslim BS in a country with the largest Muslim population in the world. The world need to grow some balls. If other religious symbols were destroyed in the move why not Kaaba. The WTC was an American symbol (not religious but still VERY important).
By rafehh at 3:15 PM ON 11/04/09
He should be able to destroy anything he wants! However there is a difference between the Vatican and the Kaaba. The Kaaba is the holiest of holies for Muslims while a church is a church!! If he destroys a Mosque, a Synagogue or a Church, people will roll their eyes and accept it ... Having said that, there is Jaheliah (ignorance) among a minority of "Muslims" who have been empowered by money, weapons, organization and driving ideology to supress others. Those who suffer most are other Muslims! Now we all know who empowered these people to fight "the communists," "the Arab socialists," "the pan-arabists," "the Arab secularists," and "the Khomeinist." The Muslim world is passing through its Middle Age period right now - Europe had the same phase. It is going to take a while.
By NordonPL at 3:16 PM ON 11/04/09
yahoo tell me... do you eat pork? Theres a reason why I ask you... answer me though
By Zaid at 3:16 PM ON 11/04/09
Round And Round AnD Round.. you are the most dumbest person i have ever met on internet.. really though? screw the muslim extermists? seriously see one thing is if you look up stuff about mecca you will know how holy that place is.. one story tells that one time ants started crowling on the cube of mecca and started eating the words that are printed on a big piece of paper and they ate all of the words but the words "In The Name Of GOD" thats some powerfull stuff and just me trying to waste my time to convince idiots like you is just pointless.. I hope to god he forgives you... And you said that the movie will only be bootlegged.. HAHA! too bad that the movie is already out in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt and many more countries and i would know all that because im from jordan, and i have been in usa for almost 3 years and i like it but you cant forget where you came from and what Religion you have followed and still follow it for this day and forever.. Dont Talk Smack on internet if you dont know what you are talking about.. Look this kinda stuff up, and you might just be amazed.. Peace
By Fritz at 3:16 PM ON 11/04/09
What makes them so special and sensitive?? Its a man made structure that can be destroyed by nature. When the earth revolts, nothing will be spared. So let it fall into a earthquake ground crack.
By Hoss at 3:17 PM ON 11/04/09
We are AMERICANS!!!! we eat pork,bacon,steaks,chops,etc.etc..All of "GOD'S" creatures are meant to be ate and if we can find a way to clean up and cook it right,we should be eating muslims up next...but i heard even farm pigs wont eat muslim meat..they rather eat their own shit..same difference though...
By americanmuscle at 3:18 PM ON 11/04/09
funny how they didn't mind blowing up our landmarks filled with innocent people (mothers fathers brothers etc.) yet will warrant a death sentence for a staged movie explosion that will damage a replica with no lives in danger. the whole worlds gone f++++d to hell disaster this disaster that in the charged climate with our economy why not make some hopeful movies to inspire people to get out this rut rather than oh f the economy ur all gonna die in 3 years. and most of all bring back the muscle car wars.
By blackjack at 3:18 PM ON 11/04/09
That's great Dan. You're confusing passive detachment from small conflicts with a whole nation being absolutely dedicated to a war effort. I've been to Hiroshima too, but I'm happy to say it didn't make me a dipshit. Now I'm going to go play with my half Japanese kid as my Japanese wife cooks niku jaga and try to remember that the reason I generally don't post messages on these stupid boards is because I inevitably encounter people who should be a damn site smarter than they are.
By Sani at 3:19 PM ON 11/04/09
THE DIRECTOR CONSIDERED MUSLIM PASSIONS AND BELIEFS AND THIS IS REAL HONORABLE .
KABAA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER TEMPLE,MOSQUE OR CHURCH SINCE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS VISIT THE PLACE EACH YEAR.CAN YOU FIND ANY TEMPLE BEING EQUALLY IMPORTANT FOR ITS FOLLOWERS?
PLUS,EVERY CAPABLE MUSLIM IS OBLIGED TO GO TO HAJJ AND KABAA .
IT'S CALLED "GOD'S TEMPLE/HOUSE".
By Jackson at 3:20 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland Emmerich is obviously passing off his lack of manhood, not to mention the clear absense of artistic courage or integrity throughout his entire body of work, even under the most lenient scrutiny. What a loser. Would love to tell it to his face and then bitch slap deceitful mug.
By The Czar at 3:20 PM ON 11/04/09
What is wrong with you people, when will you people realize that there are good and rotten apples in every religion? When? Why do you all always advertise yourselves as uneducated fools? Why do you all makes us look bad? Shut your mouths man? I agree with that dude Fa the arab....stop...and think. Allah, God, Dios, Yahova....is ALL THE SAME ENTITY MAN....read a book people....dumb farmers
By Harvard2010 at 3:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Worst director ever!
By ching young at 3:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Dan Iam Japanees and I just want to tell you fuck you and your aids when killing half million people in a second. thank you
By jesus at 3:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is nothing more than a bunch of stanky,crusty,hairy desert rats wearing dresses and so insecure about their little penises,that they have created immoral laws that their women and children have to live by..If they took a bath once in awhile or brushed their dirty teeth,they may have a different outlook on life
By NordonPL at 3:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Ok Hoss so you eat Pork.... now tell me are you a Christian...?
By KfromLA at 3:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Was he really scared due to a freaking fatwa or is it all about the $$$$??? Offending muslims would only make him loose the muslim movie govers which will surely make his movie a FLOP.
Think again people before saying stupid stuff.... in the end, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
By sam at 3:23 PM ON 11/04/09
What about a Jewish Holy site???
I read in the article about Christian sites getting destroyed, and him thinking about Islamic sites as well, but it NEVER mentions any Jewish sites.
Why are you people so blind.
Christians are portrayed as the cowards for allowing Hollyood destroy their historical sites, and Muslims are portrayed as the extremists, who wont allow it.
yet, Jews get away with it....again as always.
think about....if the director even dared destroy a Jewish site, he would be labeled as an Anti-Semite. But he can bash Christiand and Muslims and get away with it.
By Voyager at 3:23 PM ON 11/04/09
This is a movie for gosh sakes. It is all make believe.
NortonPL - sorry but you can not expect anyone to believe that Islam is a religion of 'peace' when the people of your religion are KILLING and threatening to KILL the "infidels" (anyone who does not convert to Islam) . If the people of your religion are against killing others and treating women and children like insects, then they need to SPEAK UP AGAINST the crazy ones who are using your religion as an excuse to do these atrocities.
By Wolfdaddy at 3:24 PM ON 11/04/09
It is a shame that he would comprimise his art like that. He has lost any respect I had for him. He destroys the world, Nature or God or whatever doesn't seem to spare anything but one religion? Shame shame shame. Against organized religion my ass. He is a chicken, destroy it all or none of it man.
By Hoss at 3:24 PM ON 11/04/09
Yes Nordick,i eat pork and a follower of the lord christ,what's your problem ?other than your probably a stinky muslim in a dress or evil lil' jew..
By Revelation1318 at 3:25 PM ON 11/04/09
P - U - S - S - Y
Pussy, pussy, pussy.
Stop directing movies and write Hallmak cards!
By cropman49 at 3:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Pathetic and typical hollywood, you can do it to Christian, Jewish or any other religion but don't you dare do it to muslins. What a bunch of chickenshit, spineless cowards!
By KfromLA at 3:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Sam you are sooo correct.
On a seprate note, last night was the premier of "V".... I as a non christian was offended by the program directors when they decided that during the earth shaking scean.... a large figure of Jesus on a cross in the Church came crashing down on the ground. As a muslim - I felt offended by that act. I feel religion needs to be kept apart from movies.
By Mark at 3:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Dan, good for you visiting Hiroshima. Should have thought this is what the JAPS did to their own people by incurring the wrath of America and the world for their starting WW2 and Germany too. The JAPS and GERMANS of the 1930's and 40's - the EVIL AXIS of the planet.
By enchntr1 at 3:28 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm not even religous, but I will definitely boycott this movie, and would recommend everyone else in this country do the same. This clown has the audacity to basically say "screw you" to the US and all it stands for, while respecting Islam? Its time we in this country started standing up to politically correct idiots like this, in the only place they will notice, their pocketbooks. You don't repsect our country? Then go and try to sell your movie in Pakistan, you loser.
By Dan at 3:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Call someone who gives a shit, fagjack. You didn't have anything to refute after I put you in your place about the Crusades. Do us all a favor and don't post. It's easy to talk big online but in real life you're just another cowardly tosser that can't put up a fight in person.
"ching young", with a name like that, yeah I'm sure you're Japanese. Moron.
By Trafalger at 3:29 PM ON 11/04/09
Emmerich and his associate are little men and spineless cowards. One can only hope that their peers in the film community will ignore them for their lack of artistic integrity and not pander to them as they are pandering to the extremists in tea towels. They are beneath contempt because they compromise out of fear. Happily, the public can apply its own punishment - death by box office. I, for one, shall do my part without hesitation.
By Dan at 3:32 PM ON 11/04/09
"Dan, good for you visiting Hiroshima. Should have thought this is what the JAPS did to their own people by incurring the wrath of America and the world for their starting WW2 and Germany too. The JAPS and GERMANS of the 1930's and 40's - the EVIL AXIS of the planet. "
Funny how the Americans had no problem supporting ex-Nazis in Greece and Paraguay in the 60's in the name of containing Communism. Forget about that tidbit?
By alec1978 at 3:34 PM ON 11/04/09
You could take this as a positive. I am by no means a deeply religious man; but, but if the western world is able to handle a movie portraying the destructions of their religious and government symbols, and the Islamic world can't handle this, doesn't that compliment the western world? To me, that means that our symbols are effemeral and can with stand the destruction of a Summer movie. Where as the Islamic symbols see it as a threat or an insult that could mean retaliation. To me, it just means we are more secure in our establishment. We are not threatened by a movie. I don't blame the director. Look what happened in Denmark and is happening in England. Avoidance does not equal fear.
By Skeek at 3:34 PM ON 11/04/09
If he's so against organized religion, how come he doesn't have the balls to put his life on the line for his belief? Pussy.
By Jaffri at 3:34 PM ON 11/04/09
True religious faith is what we muslims have. And there is no place for such crazy things in Islam like destroying sacred places in a movie. Islam is a God gifted religion, it's true in every aspect of its existance. A muslim has faith in death so he cant tolerate the destruction of holy places. As we have to give an account of all our deeds in this life in front of Allah the almighty after death.
By Mark at 3:35 PM ON 11/04/09
KfromLA - I saw "V" last night too and I winced at the falling Jesus statue.
By Ryan at 3:36 PM ON 11/04/09
I can't believe this guy! He can "destroy" Christianity but not Islam? And if you're so against organized religion, why do you feel you have to respect the Muslims?
By RockyB at 3:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Let's face it. If the world is coming to an end and everything is being destroyed, Muslim landmarks are going to be destroyed as well whether you show it or not. Logic dictates it. Anyone muslim issuing a "fatwa" over a movie is just plain ridiculous because it says that you are so insecure about your religion that you can't withstand anything of a negative light and making your GOD seem impotent because he cannot no spare a holy landmark and you must defend GOD's honor. His honor doesn't need defending. He's GOD!
Well, if a disaster of this magnitude did occur, wouldn't it be considered an act of GOD? That doesn't seem impotent to me on any scale!
By OkO_O at 3:38 PM ON 11/04/09
Well that's not fair. If he's gonna destroy religious stuff he should destroy them all or not any.
How about just landmarks? That's what most people care about anyway.
Personally I don't care that much if he destroys symbols of my religion. It's just a load of fiction anyway.
By The End Will Come at 3:39 PM ON 11/04/09
Judging by what i read so far, our destruction will be from own our hands. imo i believe ppl put too much religous faith in inanimate objects and not enough on what matters. The end will come but not the way we see it in this film.
By ginaaa at 3:39 PM ON 11/04/09
I think that's smart on his end. To be honest, I think the Islam religion seems to be the most sensitive when it comes to anyone portraying them in a way they don't approve of. Let's be real- if that scene were to be added in the movie, don't tell me a large part of the Islam population won't be initiating riots, and american flag burning in plazas yelling 'Death to America.' We all shouldn't be naive to think that, that won't happen. A large number of them already hate the western culture, more specifically Americans, so lets not add more fuel to the fire. You can make a movie like the De Vinci Code and Borat poking fun at Jews (when he's Orthodox Jewish himself), but noo waaaaaaay can the Islam religion be made into a movie satire.
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 3:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By NordonPL at 3:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Voyager:
True Islam NEVER forces anyone to convert first of all. The ones that do the killing are not TRUE Muslims, as I mentioned before Suicide is Haram. Btw where are people being forced to convert to Islam anyways? Please give me a few examples?
Women in Islam have the most rights than anyone else.
http://www.themuslimwoman.com/herrights/womensrights.htm
Women in other "religions" have become icons of sexual desire. Look in the western culture, women are supposed to please a man's eye in every way possible. Women in the west have to go through rapes and constant ogling. In true Hinduism a wife is supposed to burn with the husbands corpse. In Islam a woman has her RESPECT, her HONOUR, and her DIGNITY.
Muslims do speak up against the crazy ones. But the way the world is, all politicized by the US, its very hard to be heard. Its even said that the CIA is behind suicide bombings in Iraq etc.
The so called "muslims" who kill innocents have surely never read the Quran themselves but had it "translated" to them by someone with an agenda. Despicable! If they read the Quran they will see that they are on the road to hell.
In my arguments I refer to the Holy Quran and the traits of a TRUE Muslim.
By Endoxa52 at 3:41 PM ON 11/04/09
"You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa, and that sounds a little bit like what the state of this world is."
I believe it shows the "state" in which Islam is perceived and rightly so.
It also shows the complete disregard Hollywood has for Christianity; and the grip of fear they are in when it comes to confronting Islam. Cowards.
By Mark at 3:44 PM ON 11/04/09
Funny how the Americans had no problem supporting ex-Nazis in Greece and Paraguay in the 60's in the name of containing Communism. Forget about that tidbit?
This is called 'politics' not that I would support this.
By NordonPL at 3:45 PM ON 11/04/09
Hoss but it says in the Bible not to eat Pork... please reply...
Leviticus, Chapter 11 Verse 6
And that proves that Christianity is a purely man made religion when their followers can't even follow their own Bible.
By FreeSpeech at 3:47 PM ON 11/04/09
It may seem silly, and not a big deal, but once we give up our own freedom of speech in fear of those who wish to abolish it, we've already lost it.
What are our values, and how far will we go to defend them? Rushdie had balls. Aayan Hirsi Ali has balls (metaphorically, I hope), Ibn Warraq has balls.
Issuing death threats and fatwas is wrong, that in itself is terrorism, making us fearful to exercise the freedoms this country's fought so hard for.
Freedom of speech is offensive to Islamic extremists. It always will be. The more we acquiesce to their demands and threats, the more their horrifying way of life becomes our own.
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 3:47 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By slim at 3:48 PM ON 11/04/09
soft peddling around a dogmatic 7th century religion worried about a fatwa?! seems to me it is a tacet approval of the fundamentalist ideologies. Even Southpark pokes as these nut jobs.. Give me a break. Emmerich is a typical liberal whiner doesn't want to offend people who mind come after him.. Heaven forbid a turbo catholic see it?!!
By why u do at 3:49 PM ON 11/04/09
i dont understand why you western world alwayes do such act to hurt muslem,what u will achive ?please stop it doing,,,it is enough..
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 3:50 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By Ahmeronline at 3:51 PM ON 11/04/09
Hi All,
That time we don't need fight each other this is very long story some mad people become our countries leader you all must watch this video
http://www.arrivals.technocrazed.com/episode-2-mind-control-feat-george-carlin
who is muslim he must see part1 to end and who is non muslim he watch directly.
we need think who play with us.
By woodchopper at 3:51 PM ON 11/04/09
Well thats just the kind of gutless, spineless crap that is coming out of holywood these days. Trash every peacfull religion except the one that will kill you. Come on! Have the guts of your convictions if you don't beleive in God, go ahead and distroy the Kaaba.
By J3551C4 at 3:52 PM ON 11/04/09
I am by no means suggesting that all Muslims are like this, but this does serve to make a point for the topic of this forum (see link below). I do think that its either all or nothing, and since all of these other major symbols, religious and otherwise are being destroyed, Mecca should not be exempt, but when stuff like this happens:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3975211.stm
some people are bound to be affected and as a result, more conservative in their choices.
By bjm0907 at 3:53 PM ON 11/04/09
the "small minority" of extremist muslims are killing a lot of people for being a "small minority". there is a lot of "small minority" muslim countries that kill christians every day.
By maxdog at 3:53 PM ON 11/04/09
I will not see this movie...nor will my 5 children as I am sick of cowtowing to radicals...muslim or otherwise...just cancelled HBO also as it has become the Gay channel
By jklp at 3:53 PM ON 11/04/09
He's so stupid, thinking its okay to destroy catholic landmarks but not muslim. I think mecca should be destroyed in real life, muslims are crazy and once that symbol is destroyed they will know God doesnt like their religion and their Muhammad ~
By 33degreeKnight at 3:53 PM ON 11/04/09
Wonderful - real men do not kow-tow to a bunch of bully-boy fanatics from a "religion" created by a shameless paedophile! The audience would have stood and cheered to see the end of some silly cube and a large number of even sillier people dancing around it. COWARDS. SHAMELESS COWARDS
By toretards at 3:54 PM ON 11/04/09
there are 1.5 billion muslims in the world......thats 1 out every 4 human being....now if we were all terrorists u all would be dead.....so quit calling every muslim a terrorist....
By NordonPL at 3:55 PM ON 11/04/09
FreeSpeech:
Why do u find it Free Speech to INSULT someone?? Have a debate, a proper argument... but why INSULT. What rushdie, hirsi all did was pure racist comments DIRECTLY INTENDED TO INSULT ISLAM.
Honestly it shows that you westerners are VERY INSECURE about your culture and feel that you have to insult others to feel good. You dont have a sense of peace in ur hearts and always look to disturb others' peace!
We dont insult Christian and Jewish symbols then why shud u guys?
By Anti-Christ at 3:57 PM ON 11/04/09
Relax, you dorks. It's just a fucking movie.
By 2toretards at 3:57 PM ON 11/04/09
Not every muslim...
But enough...
Don't like it? Take care of your own screwy cult.
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 3:58 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By deth2Emmerich at 3:59 PM ON 11/04/09
"You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart,"
What a bunch of a-holes. I'd love to know what even more incendiary parts you left out of that sentence. I am sure it was full of hateful or disrespectful "anti-Western" remarks. Why don't you go run off to the Eastern world if it is so much better? Or...wait..you like the money the Western World gives you.
By Thomcat at 3:59 PM ON 11/04/09
Wuss? Perhaps, but he's much worse people. As far as I am concerned he's a terrorist...I feel the same outrage, and sadness, as I do when I read about some nutjob blowing innocent people up. And don't say it's not the same because of no loss of life because this guy is now going to be responsible for killing innocent people with his stand. Somewhere there is a nutjob on the border of "to blow up or not to blow up," and this is the sort of thing that will fuel his passion. To be fair, most of the Islamic world will find his position silly and humorous, but there is that sub-group we all like to refer to as "extremist" that are laughing their asses off right now, and this is exactly the long term terror they live to insight with their 911 mentalitiy. We need to boycott this movie; it's only one movie and Hollywood has a million of them. We won't, but we should. I promise you I will...
By NordonPL at 3:59 PM ON 11/04/09
Van Gogh went on to inscribe Quranic verses on a naked womens body. We Muslims believe that the Quran is the word of God and we believe in protecting our dignity and not running around nude... so obviously it is VERY insulting to do what Van Gogh did. It was unnecessary to create that image.
By bigguy4765 at 3:59 PM ON 11/04/09
That is hollyweird for you
By kidcoonass2004 at 4:01 PM ON 11/04/09
It won't matter in the end of days anyway. The Lord Jesus Christ will smite down the religions of Islam, Buddism, atheism, & any other religion not believing in him. Woe be to those that do not get their act together now & repent for their sins. Jesus will not be merciful this time. Repent!! Repent!! Repent!!
By Genzeka at 4:02 PM ON 11/04/09
He is a coward. The muslim community (not all but most) were happy when the World Trade Center collapsed. They even celebrated the fact that peopled died. And this COWARD couldn't even make believe that it was being destroyed. Some say it's a movie and they are right. But even movies set a standard and show a bit of truth now & again. So by him (Emmerich) not destroying a muslim landmark but destroying christian landmarks & buddhist monk villages. He is telling the world that he is scared of the muslim community. What a coward!
By tata at 4:02 PM ON 11/04/09
hoooooold on
who said that the Islamic people would have a fatwa on the directors head if he had the kaaba destroyed like the rest of other religions symbols , it is just that they have such a proud and honor of there religion and its symbols coz really the prophet ABRAHAM who has been mentioned in the BIble and the TORAH has built the Kaaba ,so the Kaaba has a great religious and historical value .
but any way if he thinks that the Muslim people would have a fatwa on his head for destroying the Kaaba which is just a symbol , Why didn't the Muslims have a fatwa on Edgar Kokkvold head who has drawn the prophet MOHAMMED him self in a bad way who is not just an islamic symbol he is the islamic teacher .
the thing is that the people thinks that every thing abuot islam is violence , so the first thought about them will be ........
By Beezlebub at 4:02 PM ON 11/04/09
relax, you dorks. It's just a f**king move. Sheesh....
By jaz at 4:02 PM ON 11/04/09
What would a Christian do if a Muslim destroyed the Jesus Statue in Rio? You really think a Christain would stand for that? I hope not, but you guys make it seem like you'd all turn the other cheek. What a croc! Why don't you stand up for your religion rather than letting it be mocked by Hollywood? Oh I know, your symbols carry no meaning in your life.
By Atheist at 4:03 PM ON 11/04/09
He is a jerk. We all need to ignore his movies. Take our $$ elsewhere. Fatwha for being a jerk!
By Dan at 4:04 PM ON 11/04/09
I see that a lot of losers are bringing up Theo van Gogh.
Let's turn the tables, shall we?
If Michael Moore were to be shot or stabbed by a far-right fanatic with ties to the Republican party, would you be quick to bring that up as well?
I highly doubt it.
By Anna Doe at 4:04 PM ON 11/04/09
EVERYBODY let's make our own animations and movies and
let's destroy the kabaa!!!
See you on youtube!!!!
By BeckerT at 4:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Ha! The little cube wouldn't have been much of a disaster. Few people knew of it before and it isn't really that dramatic of a structure to destroy.
By Angelo at 4:05 PM ON 11/04/09
It's sad to see how many people are either hateful towards Islam or just hateful towards religion.
Roland Emmerich is a fool, and it's disturbing to see how little Christians care that people are defacing what is, even if only as a symbol, sacrosanct.
The fact that among Christians, people respond by saying, "it's his right to free speech" is truly mortifying. Free speech is not supposed to harbor hateful rhetoric, either in the form of spoken words or "art".
The fact that Emmerich chose not to depict the destruction of the Kabbah is only to his credit insomuch as that the alternative would be all the worse.
To the Christians who responded that they take no offense because "the religion is inside them", understand that when one says, "all that matters is faith", unless you are an ascetic monk (in which case you wouldn't say it anyways), that statement is very misleading - even Luther did not reject religious symbols, and for people who are not living their lives surrounded by their faith (i.e. if you have almost any modern profession), symbols are a necessity in keeping religion from becoming trivialized in your mind. That's (in no small part) why people go on pilgrimages.
It only feeds people like Emmerich to sit here pointing fingers at each other for HIS choice of what to put in his movie.
By bustermiller9 at 4:05 PM ON 11/04/09
Boycot this movie! Especially if you're a Christian. In a sense, I understand Emmerich's decision. It is both an indictment of Islam for its militant intolerance, and an indictment of Christians for not having the courage or wisdom to stand up for our faith. We need to take a stand by not supporting this movie whatsoever.
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 4:06 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By AntiRoland at 4:06 PM ON 11/04/09
So, Roland - you're saying that if the Christians or Jews would threaten to rub you out - like the Muslims that you are obviously afraid of - then you not have destroyed ANY religious landmarks in your film?
But wait - I thought you were AGAINST organized religion? Oh - I get it now - so what you're REALLY saying is that you are a typical Hollywood Hypocrite right?
Oh - alright - I get it now! Thanks for clearing that up!
By NordonPL at 4:07 PM ON 11/04/09
kidcoonass2004:
Do you eat pork? Please reply...
Jaz:
It's true how can religious symbols that are based on false religions ever have a meaning in someones life. Muslims believe in the true religion ISLAM... and that is why they feel something when their religion is insulted!
By maddi at 4:09 PM ON 11/04/09
to Genzeka do u even have prove of wat u said abt muslims being happy??? did ur muslim frnds tell u that they threw a party??? stupid ignorant bitch!
By Jaymax at 4:10 PM ON 11/04/09
These artist-types ALWAYS gripe about how oppressive America is, how their right to free speech is threatened here, how courageous they are making controversial films (mostly in the protective sanctuaries of freedom-loving, capitalist democracies), and how Christians are so rabidly narrow-minded. Frickin' HELLO! Islam is an organized religion! It's so organized and fatwahs so commonplace that no-one feels safe anywhere in the world saying or doing anything that might offend muslims for fear of death! It is time to call Islam what it is and for movie studios and news organizations, alike, to start broadcasting the truth about its uber-violent history and present-day agenda. If he can depict not one, but THREE defacings of Christian symbols, he should grow a pair and throw in some Muslum, Bhuddist, pagan, and/or New Age stuff as well. Or better yet, SPARE the praying folk a mangling for their efforts at least once and elevate THAT interesting notion for a change! That would be TRULY edgy and controversial !!!
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 4:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By Cata at 4:11 PM ON 11/04/09
They should have recreated the two statues of standing Buddhas in Bamyan valley in Afghanistan, which were destroyed by the Taliban government. Guess it was OK to trash those.
By annon at 4:12 PM ON 11/04/09
who knows..it may be the first thing to go in the real 2012.
By SPUTKNIK at 4:12 PM ON 11/04/09
If you want a credible story, get a
Danish director.
By EmpressRuthie at 4:14 PM ON 11/04/09
I really wanted to go see this movie, until I read this foolishness. I pray for wisdom to find him.
By Moslems NOT Arabs at 4:14 PM ON 11/04/09
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?! He says: "Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa". This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist. This has nothing to do with Arabs at all.
By hamak at 4:16 PM ON 11/04/09
This movie is propaganda- I am not Muslim. However, I feel this movie is creating a wider rift between people, beliefs and peace. This motive was to make another party look bad, but it really makes Emmerich look bad- especially that the media releases this information to create more controversy.
By Get a Life at 4:16 PM ON 11/04/09
well .. You guys keep attacking islam coz that idiot didn't destroy Kaaba in his movie... Do you think any muslim or any sheikh will give fatwa will care for a movie that ends life in 2012? make sure muslims will simply laugh on this movie , not getting mad as he think. And they will laugh more when they see such stupid people comment on something even more silly that the story of the movie....
And to that redneck in Texas.. Go buy history books from Europe, Asia, africa and South america ( sure you will not find any in USA) and try to read and see what culture and medicine was given by islam among the centuries.
By reality at 4:16 PM ON 11/04/09
Back when Mohammad was made fun of and the Arab world was upset, some students at the Univ of Oregon decided they should make fun of Jesus and did a few drawings of Jesus, one with Jesus on the cross with a big boner. The reaction was every bit as bad as the Arabs......there was a blog up of the reactions and those who would dismiss the stuff against Mohammad were the most upset by a dying Jesus with a boner...orgasam at last....
There was a big variety of commenters. The U of O president made the mail system stop from sending/mailing the pamplhets out - violating the rules of the university - so Christians are every bit as ignorant as intolerant as the Muslims. They just could not own up to their own reactions. It is easy to say how tolerant you are when it is you doing the abusing.
By NordonPL at 4:16 PM ON 11/04/09
The Taliban govt was stupid to do that.... they follow their own religion... wanna learn abt true islam read an ENGLISH QURAN...
Btw Islam is the fastest growing religion in the West... according to the World Christian Database.
By smile at 4:17 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm Muslim and am offended but only because this is so ridiculous.
Before 9/11 how many Americans even knew about Islam and other countries?? Not many. some of you people read some part of the Holy Quran published on the web and believe it and think are some scholars. how ridiculous!
By doing these things you only offend more. in how many disaster flicks have they used "Islamic" structures before that now they are being made a big deal now?? even in olden american movies muslims/turks were being depicted as terrorists.
personally i don't think you should destroy any religious symbol, because they give people hope.
fyi, it's not an arab symbol....
america is the only country which has issues about being PC. other don't and they are just fine
can't wait to see the movie, hopefully it's good
By bruncrazy1 at 4:17 PM ON 11/04/09
He is like many other dillusional moguls from Hollywood, note two L's so it has never been called Holywood. That said, I would not give him a dime of my Christian dollar, let the Muslims support him, maybe they already do.
By islamic person at 4:18 PM ON 11/04/09
listen, islam is the religion of peace, for all u chrisions and jews out there. u better watch out.
By GLOCK at 4:18 PM ON 11/04/09
So we are afraid of the Muslims and what they will do. They are fare from being the perfect people, to hell with this movie. Destroy all Jesus stuff and snub your finger at them. Bastared.
By sHAYES at 4:19 PM ON 11/04/09
This man fears the wrong god. He should fear (revere) the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
By markus at 4:20 PM ON 11/04/09
I think we should destroy 2012's opening weekend box office by not going to see this massive piece of crap.
By smile at 4:20 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm Muslim and am offended but only because this is so ridiculous.
Before 9/11 how many Americans even knew about Islam and other countries?? Not many. some of you people read some part of the Holy Quran published on the web and believe it and think are some scholars. how ridiculous!
By doing these things you only offend more. in how many disaster flicks have they used "Islamic" structures before that now they are being made a big deal now?? even in olden american movies muslims/turks were being depicted as terrorists.
personally i don't think you should destroy any religious symbol, because they give people hope.
fyi, it's not an arab symbol....
america is the only country which has issues about being PC. other don't and they are just fine...and america is supposed to be open-minded, too bad these comments say so otherwise
can't wait to see the movie, hopefully it's good
By This has nothing to do with Arabs at 4:20 PM ON 11/04/09
"Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ... a fatwa".
Moslems and Arabs are NOT the same thing! How hard is this to understand?!
This sounds like some toothless trailor-park 3rd grade graduate. This guy is a mental midget and a racist.
By rusty1325 at 4:21 PM ON 11/04/09
screw the terrorist and there little cube and especially there profit Mohammad im a proud vet who is never gonna be afraid to voice my GOD givin right to voice my opinion.at least i know one movie and writer and producer i will never watch again.and even actors and to bad i liked john cusak.
By Anna Doe at 4:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Not everybody is as brave and visionary as Geert Wilders, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Susanne Winter or Jussi Halla-aho.
By Shamus at 4:21 PM ON 11/04/09
I will be sure to take 2012 off my viewing list because the producers are "gutless."
By Fear complex at 4:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Does the director think the Islam is not an organized religion? Well, probably he thinks it is an organized terrorist group that might eventually get him, if he depicts the destruction of kaaba.
By NordonPL at 4:22 PM ON 11/04/09
A question for Christians. PLEASE REPLY.
Why do you eat pork when the Bible says not to...
Leviticus, Chapter 11
6
the hare, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore
unclean for you; and the pig,
----------------------------------------
Which is true Christianity anyways? Catholics? Protestants? 7th day adventists.
As far as I know Sunni Islam is the worlds largest religion. All the other Islamic "sects" are about 15 of the Muslim population.,.. while Christianity is equally divided into 20 sects...
Says a lot about which is the TRUE religion doesnt it?
By NordonPL at 4:24 PM ON 11/04/09
i meant all other Islamic sects are about 1 Percent of the Muslim population...
By smile at 4:24 PM ON 11/04/09
to maddi:
did you american friends tell you that they threw a party when america decided to invade countries with a good reason??
By Anna Doe at 4:24 PM ON 11/04/09
I understand Emmerich. allah in the koran and mohamed during his life asked the Muslims to kill/enslave/terrorize the Non-muslims and to kill those who criticize islam/allah/mohamed. The Church has done many bad things, but it was never connected with Jesus' teachings and behaviour. Big difference!
Religions have evolved and modernized but islam can't. Because for example while Jesus was quite a good guy, mohamed was a murderer, pedophil, terrorist, enslaver, thief...
Don't believe me: read the koran, the sahih ahadith and the sirat rasulallah.
By islamic person yo glock at 4:24 PM ON 11/04/09
islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. how can jesus be god wen there was life before and after he was born!!! he aint god
By markus at 4:25 PM ON 11/04/09
Yet another reason to NOT see this movie.
By Pat at 4:25 PM ON 11/04/09
Just proves that Islam is about one notch above prehistoric thuggery.
By Tags at 4:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Fatwaphobia
By IBLIS at 4:26 PM ON 11/04/09
to Matt ; actually what we in the west refer to as arabic numerals were actually invented in India, but came to us thru the caravans of arabia because it is closer than india is (check a globe)... also are alphabet is traced more to greek letters not arabic....AND the things you mention of islamic science are only partly true... yes they as a culture were able to do this but only after absorbing western knowledge after Alexander the Great spread Hellenic knowledge and philosophy to those places after destroying the persian empire.... the problem is Europe, in what led to what is referred to as the Dark Ages, had just went thru the break up of the most civilised and advanced society of the ancient world, Rome (which also included much of Alexander's Hellenic empire and what is now known as the muslim world)..... the difference is that in between your supposed "islamic scientific golden age" and the hell of the European Dark Ages is a little thing called the Black Death... almost half of the European population was killed and the survivors had to claw their way back from the brink of extinction...this is an amazing accomplishment (one that is not gauranteed to reoccur even if happenned today).... the entire fundamentals of European society were destroyed by this, and in its place, almost "providentially," it was the rise of Christianity that kept the survivors together and moving forward at all...now we, looking thru hindsight, might call this a religious inspired dark ages, but REALLY Christianity saved the people of Europe from total annihilation by the break up of the Roman Empire, the Plague, and later the Muslim Invasions that followed.... while Europe was reduced to poverty and death on a scale unimagineable by the modern world ( i.e the western world), the blooming religion of Mohammed was reaping the benefits brought to them by Alexander's Hellenic Empire and later the Roman Empire, thereby recieving the gifts of the west that you are so quick to call "islamic achievements"( science, philosophy, mathematics, and broader western civilization)..... in fact these only thrived in the area during the pre - mohammed and early islamic times.... once mohammed and his ideas took power (through military means, mind you, not debate or a marketplace of ideas)and after his death and the wars of succession to find his heir which gave us the Sunni/ Shiite split we're all now so familiar with, the only goal of this new "religion" was the complete submission or obliteration of all other ideologies ( islam literally means to "submit") and the advance of muslim forces as far as Spain, modern day Bosnia, Chekoslovakia, North and East Africa, and all the way to the borders of modern China.... while yes it is true they recognized the devine inspiration of the previous monotheistic religions and their patrons Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, they saw these faiths as flawed and corrupted and that only Mohammed had recieved the ACTUAL word of God .... the irony being that the founder of this faith was a failed merchant, who married one of the wealthiest women in the Middle East and soon after was "instructed by God" that women were not capable of equality to men and therefore could not recieve the benefits of inheritance of wealth, (hmm, better than a pre-nup)..... also to differentiate themselves from the "corrupt" Jews and Christians who saw themselves as the heirs to Abraham's chosen son Isaac, themuslims said this also was a corruption and that Ishmael was the actual chosen son...in the end what is the one religion open to the most historical scrutiny due to its timeframe within documented history has been kept without scrutiny for centuries...Even after the horrors of the plague and the dark ages, Christianity went thru a Reformation and Rennaisance, its nations have gone from revolution after revolution to finally find peaceful representative democracy, something the muslim world has yet to do without outside help or influence.....islam is submission and without the nuance of understanding human freedom, it has remained much as it was when it began, a TRUE and seemingly neverending religious "Dark Age"( which also explains the greatest threat we face of allowing people still there to aquire nuclear technology).... what few "moderates" exist within its ranks have only becomes so after decades of western intervention and hope for change, and even that is seen as an attack on islam.... sadly we in the west have become so enamored with our own philosophies we cannot truly comprehend a society that does not want what we would call progress because it is a threat to those who have gained power within its "submissive" confines.... the veil of political correctness has told us that we cannot judge other cultures in fear of being prejudice.... however, this is the only way cultures have ever changed for the better without military and political enslavement.... If the Northern United States had not "judged" as horrific the culture of the South, and been willing to sacrifice thousands of their lives, slavery would never had ended... we would probably still be trying to "negotiate with the moderates" of a rascist culture....however unlike the south, it is true (i believe) that the majority of muslim countries would gladly throw off this yoke, if they thought they could do so without fear of death or loss of their individual national identities and cultures (which sadly, islam has come to replace)..... however many in these societies, (espescially those in societal and familial, if not JUST governmental power have a vested interest in keeping these dogmas in place....whereas we in the west have the freedom to be "brave cowards" and constantly attack what we see as the evils of "organized religion" (mostly christianity for some reason, despite the freedom, hope, and belief in redemption of the individual that it has installed in our culture), we seem to be terrified of questioning or attacking the evils of islam in fear of being called bigots, interlopers, or rascists.... ironically the very people who have couched themselves in women's rights and free speech are the same westerners who constantly deride anyone who is critical of islam or is willing to fight for the oppressed.... whether it was Somalia, Bosnia, Kuwait, Iraq, or Afghanistan, when the west is willing to put its lives and treasure on the line for the oppressed, the same leftists who deride Christianity for its sins against women or homosexuals are the ones who defend islam for the execution of homosexuals, complete oppression of women (including female circumcision and honor killings) against the "interference" and "judgemental prejudice" of the west (i also find it interesting that the liberation of millions of Europeans from dictatorship is noble, yet the liberation of Iraqis, Kuwaitis, Bosnian Muslims, Somalis, Sudanese and Afghanis is "western adventurism")....things will seemingly never get better unless the "moderates" within islam are able to police themselves and stop the "extremists" within their midst (or a massive world war that noone wants).... of course i can already hear the same leftists arguing; "Well Christians bomb abortion clinics and kill abortion providers".... this is at best a red herring and at worst an excusing of non -western cultural evils.... the amount of anti abortion terrorist acts are actually in the single digits in the United States( if one actually does the research), and the idiotic death threats from" Christians" for anti christian rhetoric has had nothing but negative connotations for the western world in general (christian or not), compared to the benefits of power, attention, political accomodations, and societal defference that the islamic terrorist activities have achieved... point in fact is the very reason of this discussion; that a western film maker would make a movie wherein christian, western, and democratic symbols can be obliterated with out batting an eye but the FEAR of islamic reprisal stops any reciprocation (even in the west) about islamic symbols.... to put it simply, freedom of speech and expression are required to be absolute.... if you can decide what is ok to be symbollically destroyed, mocked, or critiqued and what isnt, then WE ARE NOT FREE..... if anyone is afraid to do these things because of fear of physical injury, then that is TERRORISM.... and im sorry but ANYONE supporting that idea in defference to muslim feelings is SUPPORTING TERRORISM.... the fear of "Christian fundamentalists" has not stopped all of Hollywood, record companies, and the rest of left leaning western civilization from attacking Christianity and that is because even if you wont admit it you know you dont have that much to fear from Christians... even if you thought you did, you know Christians themselves find it so disgusting to act that way they would stop it from flourishing within their own communities.... they would never support it tacitly or actively as the so called "moderate" muslims do whether thru financial, material, or sympathetic support...the leftist in this situation is for the terrorist what Marx called the "useful idiot"...... if this is where the west is heading in this marketplace of ideas, than the terrorists have already won, because we dont seem to have the courage to stand up to them ( christian, muslim, jew OR atheist).....we must either show them as a united front that their threats will not dissolve our freedoms or we might as well give up now.. also keep in mind that the Koran only allows truces and negotiation with "infidels" if it is to gain strength in order to destroy the "infidel" or "strengthen islam".... lying is not a sin if it is also to "strengthen islam" or stop the "infidels".... so we as free peoples of the earth (no matter our beliefs) must stand against the enemies of freedom...
By ohioboyz66 at 4:27 PM ON 11/04/09
islam is not about peace that's a huge lie and f**K everything about islam they bow before a fake god the kaaba is nothing more then a out house
By Tom at 4:27 PM ON 11/04/09
So why not leave all the religous sites out if you are too cowed by the Muslemsto use their site. I guess that's the first sign they have already won. The movie looked interesting I won't bother to see it now. Not because of Christian symbols being destroyed but because he is spineless and I don't want to support his cowardace.
By Zeroed Out at 4:28 PM ON 11/04/09
I've been reading through quite a bit of these comments and I have come to one conclusion ... that it is easy for people to call someone a wuss and a coward behind the safety and security of their computer.
By MoFo1 at 4:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Tell me this, WHO GIVE A F*CK, ALL RELIGION IS A FORM OF MIND CONTROL.
By Zeroed Out at 4:29 PM ON 11/04/09
I've been reading through quite a bit of these comments and I have come to one conclusion ... that it is easy for people to call someone a wuss and a coward behind the safety and security of their computer.
Really, people, grow up. What are any of YOU doing to stand up to extremists? Nothing, that's what. You're just sitting on your computers insulting a director who decided that refusing to have a big bullsye on his back for the most violent people in the world is cowardice.
He's not bowing to Islam or saying that he likes it. Who in their right mind would want to p*ss off a bunch of extremists? All the naysayers here would crap their pants if they came face to face with an extremist.
So many people here are saying that he should not kowtow to the extremists, but is it YOU who would be in danger if he did? Of course not ... so it's easy to tell someone else to stand up for "what's right," as long as it's not you. If you are that brave, then start a website that does nothing but attack the religion. Create a presentation where you destroy this symbol and post it on You Tube. But of course, no one will do that because it's easy to attack this guy because he's not standing up for what you think he should .... it's quite another to actually take the same kind of stand.
And Thomcat, really? So I guess you're saying that Emmerich is doomed either way. If he was to put the symbol in, that could fuel extremists. And if he leaves it out, that could fuel extremists. So explain what the heck he was supposed to do in this case?
I do love the fact that people think extremists are reading Sci Fi Wire. Heck ... maybe you should blame them and other media outlets for running with the story. If not, then it wouldn't be news and the extremists would never find out. So now you have another person (or persons, actually) to blame.
I don't know about any of you, but destroying a building in a movie is not worth endangering my life.
By smile at 4:29 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm Muslim and am offended but only because this is so ridiculous.
Before 9/11 how many Americans even knew about Islam and other countries?? Not many. some of you people read some part of the Holy Quran published on the web and believe it and think are some scholars. how ridiculous!
By doing these things you only offend more. in how many disaster flicks have they used "Islamic" structures before that now they are being made a big deal now?? even in olden american movies muslims/turks were being depicted as terrorists.
personally i don't think you should destroy any religious symbol, because they give people hope.
fyi, it's not an arab symbol....
america is the only country which has issues about being PC. other don't and they are just fine
can't wait to see the movie, hopefully it's good
By sparrow1 at 4:30 PM ON 11/04/09
god awful movie, how idiotic, why didn't they just make it into a cartoon , aaaaarrrrrrrrgh
By NordonPL at 4:30 PM ON 11/04/09
Anna Hoe:
please provide some backup to ur claims:
In Islam killing one person is like killing humanity.
In Islam u can only have sex with ur wife... not children (like catholic priests tend to do)
Islam means PEACE... and i dont see terrorism support appearing in the Islamic literature
In Islam... prisoners of war are supposed to be treated HUMANELY .. ahem.. Guantanamo anyone?
In Islam, a thief (after three chances) is supposed to have is hand cutoff...
so Anna Doe... please back up your claim b4 u make ludicrous claims.
By Anna Doe at 4:31 PM ON 11/04/09
I understand Emmerich.
After all islam orders Muslims to kill those who critic islam and his pedo-prophet.
Kudos for him because although he didn't film the destruction of the kabaa, he is speaking about it and is pinpointing to the big problem of self-censorship and the weakening of our freedom of expression.
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Huge thanks to the brave and visionary Geert Wilders, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Susanne Winter, Orianna Fallaci or Jussi Halla-aho.
By Anon at 4:32 PM ON 11/04/09
I like how people make a big fuss out of nothing. Roland Emmerich wanted to protect himself and everyone else making this movie. It has nothing to do with hating Christianity and favoring Islam. If Islam wasn't filled with extremists, Mr. Emmerich would have gladly destroyed an Islamic landmark.
What we should really be talking about is how Roland Emmerich can get away with making the same movie over and over again. Save your money for James Cameron's Avatar.
By ady at 4:32 PM ON 11/04/09
I saw no Jewish religious icons destroyed or commented why nobody asks that why he can’t touch Jews????
Well we all know why!
By anna doe, i agree with u 100% at 4:32 PM ON 11/04/09
u r so rite. islam is the tru religion and ppl make fun of it all the time. christions r so fake
By tata at 4:33 PM ON 11/04/09
the only reason made Emmerich not destroying the Kaaba is that he was afraid of lossing the audions of the Arabic nation and the Islamic nation which the later is the largest ( wanna check google Kaaba) and he knew that the other nations and religions wouldn't stand up for there symboles eather religious or patriotic.
By 13 of Nazareth at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
The funniest thing among these comments is that everyone seems to forget that there was a period in the development of Christianity where disrespect of the faith would have resulted in a death sentence at the hands of the "faithful" who would by today's standard be considered extremist, terrorists etc
When Constantine assisted in the establishment of Christianity as the "state religion" of Rome. Some Christians went from being persecuted for their faith to persecuting anyone who did not practice their faith.
Should we then hold any faith to a developmental standard which our own faith does not histortically exceed. Extremism in any religion is a sign of spiritual immaturity. This decision is a recognition that there are those who call themselves Muslim who are spirtually immature; bashing that recognition only because Christian symbols where depicted as being destroyed is a sign of your own spiritual immaturity.
God is present in you not the building where you chose to worship God by whatever name you have chosen or been taught to call
By yo at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
the numbers were invented in india but my muslims. we are talking about who invented them, not where as this whole discussion is about religion and islam and muslim being terrorists.
By Israel is a terrorist state at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
Settlers are are state-sanctioned terrorists put as colonists on Palestinian land at US tax-payer expense. They have their own roads that say "Jew-Only" that Palestinians are not allowed to drive on. This is Palestinian land taken by Israelis that only the settlers can use.
By fjgytf at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
Tell me this, WHO GIVE A F*CK, ALL RELIGION IS A FORM OF MIND CONTROL.
By freedom at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
hmmmm
By ohioboyz66 at 4:34 PM ON 11/04/09
the profit mohammad was guy yep he took it up the old butt he spent time on his knees but islam forget's about that huh? he was a out cast who stole the story of christ which is also fake.the kaaba is a sh*t house
By NordonPL at 4:35 PM ON 11/04/09
Please READ and REPLY to this post... dont ignore it cause u cant have an argument against it
Islam is the only true religion.
That is why we Muslims protest when our religious symbols are desecrated (Of course I condemn killing someone for it). All other religions are man made and that is why their followers have no real faith in their hearts. (Did you know Christians are not supposed to commit adultery and eat pork - Chapter 11 in Leviticus Verse 6) . There is a play part of the "Glasgay" festival that shows Jesus (PBUH) as a transsexual! Where is the Christian anger? Obviously none cause its impossible to have true faith with a fake religion.
Btw why should someone even try to make insulting images in the first place!?? You will NEVER see a true Muslim tear up a Bible or Torah or insult it with nasty images. (Forget the Taliban and the Buddha statues, they are nutcases). If we say images of our Prophet are not allowed THEN WHY THE HELL PROVOKE US BY MAKING THEM. Its like slapping us, what would you do if sumone slaps, u... kik his @ss of course!
Allah is the creator of this universe and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was sent as the last guidance. Islam touches every corner of life and following Islam leads everyone to lead a happy and succesful life.
Btw Suicide Bombers should go to hell since they kill themselves (suicide is haram), and they kill innocent people. In Shariah, during war you are not supposed to hurt women, children, and even TREES!
READ THE QURAN IN ENGLISH IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME... THEN U WILL LEARN TRUE ISLAM... AND WILL FIND PEACE IN UR HEARTS!
Please READ and REPLY to this post... dont ignore it cause u cant have an argument against it
By freedom at 4:35 PM ON 11/04/09
hmmmmm.....
The CGs for this movie are quite amazing. I would love to see it but....I don't know if I will.
Yeah, these guys are scared to get their heads cut off.....so obviously they are not Christians. If this movie was made by a Christian they would actually depict truth....ALL LANDMARKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE DESTROYED. They wouldn't care if they offended another religion True Christians would rather depict truth and risk their lives for the sake of the Cross, than avoid offense. This would respresent ........TRUE PERSECUTION!!
By ghost at 4:36 PM ON 11/04/09
money making hollywood monkey - don't go to see the movie - don't pay him for this - he don't deserve to make a millions out of it
By World's vanity at 4:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Religion is a comfort for billions of people from the inevitable unknown: death. The culture in western societies promotes people to indulge in the moment and sidetrack thoughts of after life. This view on life leads to a corrupt society where the elders are disregarded; freedom is portrayed in obscene scenarios, as having sex at an early age, as killing neurons and creating defects in human bodies from drinking alcohol, etc.. Islam, in its true form--not practiced anywhere on earth currently--is the best way to live. Perhaps, someone should artificially model a society with Islamic rule to measure its benefits.
By What we sew... at 4:37 PM ON 11/04/09
Have to wonder what Emmerich's karma will be for putting out such fear to the world through his movies. While in disguise as entertainment, putting out fear and gloom to the world cannot reap much merit in the bigger context of life. I suppose we will never know his ultimate fate in the matter, but i have no doubt it will not elude him.
By Israel at 4:37 PM ON 11/04/09
is a terrorist state and settlers are state-sanctioned terrorists put as colonists on Palestinian land at US tax-payer expense. They have their own roads that say "Jew-Only" that Palestinians are not allowed to drive on. This is Palestinian land we're talking about and not Israel proper- land just taken by Israel that only the settlers can use.
By Mr. Dart at 4:37 PM ON 11/04/09
I hereby issue a fatwah on this infidel for destroying Randy' Donuts. The nerve of this guy!
By Oll at 4:37 PM ON 11/04/09
At least he is honest - I do think most Muslims are good, but the minority (and since there are so many of them, even a minority is a lot) wreck it for most of them. Wasn't it some Islamic groups that went to the UN to try and make any criticism against Islam a "hate crime" WTF!? Are you serious? We value freedom of speech here in the more civilized world. We in the west are not perfect and we do have some cowards who will treat women badly, but the difference is that a woman here can get a fair trial, and any man who thinks he is superior to his wife or daughter and decides to kill them for bringing "shame" is going to be spending a LONG time in jail. We are not perfect but justice here is served more often than in strict islamic countries. The problem is not enough Muslims do enough to distance themselves from extremists - example, Muslims will decry any non Islamic who accuses all Muslims of being "terrorists" yet they don't give up members of their own community when they know they are being evil. In Toronto not ONE muslim gave up the 18 young men who were planning on blowing up Parliament and killing the government, and you cannot say that no one knew about it. Too many Muslims put their religion before the values of society, if you move to the West you have to respect your new country, you can keep you beliefs clothing etc, but you cannot support illegal activities in the name of religion, it makes you a criminal, period, just like the bikers and mafia gangs - just because you hide behind god does not make it any more valid.
By j at 4:38 PM ON 11/04/09
"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC, Part One
by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/22/01
Starting after the multiple bombings of the Federal office building in Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995, I wrote and then spoke on talk radio about an aborted military coup. Brought home to me, however, was the reality that my fellow Americans had little knowledge or understanding of the masterstroke, the overthrow of government, whether for the good or for evil.
In the past, had we as Americans been clearly informed by the popular press of a putsch, the overthrow of government by violence, by political assassination, such as to benefit domestic or foreign powers? After all, who benefitted from the political assassination of President Abraham Lincoln if not the British and the French who held the means to swoop upon us at the time from their entrenched positions to the south and north of us, in Canada and Mexico. The British wanted to split apart the nation by aggravating the natural friction between the ideas of the North and the South in America. The French were ready to carve up America as well. Since at least the War of 1812, the British had plotted to take back this continent as a puppet colony with so-called "Americans" again as subjects of the British Crown. [To their credit, Czarist Russia at the time of the War Between The States, or as called, the American Civil War, attempted to aid Lincoln with the Czar's naval fleet coming right offshore the U.S.]
Look what happened in the decades after the murder of Lincoln. President James Garfield was against the British controlling the growing financial power of the U.S. President William McKinley [the Brits hate the Irish] opposed the British trying to strangle the rise of American industrial power. Their political assassination in the years after that of Lincoln, in its simplest explanation, benefitted British attempts to grab back America.
Seldom, if ever, are these events explained in this way.
The Clinton White House with prior knowledge, allowed the Oklahoma bombings to occur, to restore his power following the debacle of the 1994 Congressional elections putting a GOP majority to confront him in Congress. And, with Clinton as a marionette, it aided the Establishment in their continuing propaganda to make common Americans helpless to oppose tyranny by disarming them.
Two days before the Oklahoma bloodshed, on April 17, 1995, a plane-load of top military brass were murdered when their sabotaged plane blew up near Alexander City, Alabama. It was a real life version of "Seven Days in May". According to federal grand jurors we interviewed, there was an attempt, later blocked, by a grand jury to investigate this aborted coup. It was actually part of a series of events involving twenty four Admirals and Generals, some of the most patriotic flag officers in the history of this Republic. They vowed, under the Uniform Military Code, to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Bill Clinton, for his various acts of treason aiding and abetting sworn enemies of the United States, such as Red China and Iraq. If Clinton had them arrested for mutiny, they were prepared, if not assassinated, to defend themselves with their heavily documented charges of his treachery against the U.S. Constitution and the people of the United States.
Some of the coup plotters, deciding to be out of uniform, took up residence in a Paris suburb. The French CIA, aware of all this, used it to blackmail advantages out of the U.S. government. Such as, to blockade the U.S. Justice Department, itself a highly corrupt entity, from prosecuting some fourteen French nationals, resident in the U.S., who stole U.S. industrial and financial secrets. [The French used similar blackmail threatening to publicize their knowledge of Iran's complicity in the missile attack on TWA Flight 800. Eight top officials of the French CIA along with some 60 other French nationals died in the plane that had been scheduled for Paris. A top official, however, of the French CIA at the last minute refused to board Flight 800. The Clinton White House had a secret business/peace deal pending with the Teheran oligarchs which the missile disclosures would have wrecked.]
The purpose of several attempts to pull off a coup was NOT to install a junta [pronounced HOON-tah], that is, an evil military dictatorship. Rather, to restore by necessary force the American Republic, which has gone down hill since the overthrow, by the American secret political police, of the U.S. government, by way of the murder in 1963 of President John F. Kennedy.
In the months and years that followed the Alexander City incident, some ten like-minded Admirals, Generals, and other officials and former officials, were assassinated. Such as, Admiral Jeremy Boorda, Chief of Naval Operations, the highest naval officer in uniform. Such as General David McCloud, head of the Alaska Military District. Such as, former Director of Central Intelligence, DCI, William Colby. Our interviews with their family members, relatives, and confidants convinces us of the validity of our reports. The monopoly press wrote off their demise as "airplane accidents", "suicide", and "boat accident".
Some of those hearing me on the radio, wrote to me. I could see rightaway, they had no understanding of the subject. One letter stated simply, "Mr. Skolnick, send me your papers on the koo [sic]." Evidently, this subject is not in the usual U.S. history text books in the usual high schools and colleges.
[As to the Iraqi connection, visit our website stories. Such as "U.S. Government Prior Knowledge of Emergency", "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh".]
Because of my analyses of the current emergency, I should, I suppose, expect to be heckled and reviled by some well-meaning but poorly informed fellow Americans. Notwithstanding the pronouncements of the American secret political police, the FBI and CIA, and the oil-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press, and the White House, the plot to destroy the American republic is entirely based WITHIN THIS NATION.
It is obviously good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. On the other hand, it can be a fatal mistake, a nuking of the Bill of Rights, not to recognize scoundrels who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American common people.
In its simplest form, the Persian Gulf War was just the falling out of former private business partners. I was the only journalist to be in attendance in 1991, at the hearing of a federal court case in Chicago. My exclusive interviews of the participants confirmed why certain bank records had to be concealed, the subject matter of the litigation. They showed the secret private business partnership in the 1980s of George Herbert Walker Bush, President in 1991, and Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman installed by Bush, starting when Bush was head of the secret police in 1976. [My exclusive highly detailed story ran in a populist newspaper, "Spotlight", August 19, 1991.]
Profoundly corrupt Chicago federal appeals judges put the case out of court and the file has been scattered to the wind. We apparently are the only ones still having the court file. [Visit our website story, "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh", for the name and number of the case and details of the judges.]
The Elder Bush during the Gulf War, wanted the American public to falsely believe that putting the head of Saddam Hussein on a platter and delivering it to the White House, would cure every domestic and foreign problem of the U.S. On July 17, 1993, Saddam Hussein murdered some ten of his top military officers who were plotting, he said, to overthrow him. The Clinton White House, with Bill Clinton as a Bush Family crony, had apparently committed treachery in leaking CIA details to Saddam of the plot against him. Working on investigating both Clinton and Bush as to this treasonous leak, was FBI Director William Sessions who was unceremoniously sacked on frivolous charges two days later, all to protect the treachery from being disclosed of Bush/Clinton. The very next day, Vincent W. Foster, Jr., Clinton White House Deputy Counsel, who also knew what had happened, was assassinated and clumsily disguised as a "suicide". The aborted plot against Saddam did not become even a watered down version of what happened, in the U.S. monopoly press, until November 1, 1993. [See, "U.S. Accused of Betraying Plot To Kill Iraq's Hussein", Chicago Tribune, 11/1/93.]
In 1991, the Elder Bush, as President, put some half a million Americans in harm's way, by way of Bush instigating a fight over Gulf oil properties with his former business partner, Saddam Hussein. Together, in the 1980s, as known to the participants in the lawsuit mentioned, Saddam and Bush, as business partners, split billions of dollars extorted from the oil-soaked weak sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf. The same as done by gangsters who would extract "protection money" from shopkeepers and tax-cheating auto dealers.
As a sizeable stockholder of a unit of a French firm, American LaFarge, the Elder Bush was implicated in reportedly supplying the ingredients for poison gas to be manufactured by Iraq, to be used against Iraq's domestic dissidents, namely, the Kurds, as well as against the Iranians, during the Iran-Iraq War, 1980 to 1988. A Director of American LaFarge, naturally, was Hillary Rodham Clinton, wife of the Bush Family pal.
Ten years after 1991, the Elder Bush's son, as "resident" and "occupant" of the White House, installed under highly suspect means, is going to war AGAINST HIS reputed former business partner, Osama bin Laden. Like father, like son. George W. Bush's business partner has been a Houston, Texas businessman, James R. Bath. Together, they owned an oil drilling company, Arbusto Energy. [The son, like his father, likes to name his businesses with Spanish names. The Elder Bush named his firm Zapata Petroleum, later, Zapata Offshore, with 600 units worldwide as outposts for the American CIA, starting as early as 1959. The younger Bush's Arbusto is Spanish for "Bush".]
By and through James R. Bath, George W. Bush has been a business partner, in the tens of millions of dollars, with Osama bin Laden and his father. As an example, Bath had many millions of dollars of dealings with the Elder bin Laden who was part of the infamous spy/assassination/money laundry scandal of Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI. See the details in "The Outlaw Bank---A Wild Ride Into The Secret Heart of BCCI", by Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne, Random House, New York, 1993, pages 227-230.
Notice in our prior story about the Emergency, the details of Osama bin Laden's secret joint accounts (stemming from the George W. Bush/James R. Bath/bin Laden business partnerships) in the Harris Bank, a unit of Bank of Montreal, owned largely by the Bronfman Family, who have been the owners of the Seagrams booze cartel, and another major owner of the bank being U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R., Ill.). The U.S. units of Barclays Bank, United Kingdom, have also sought to conceal such reputed joint accounts of Osama bin Laden/James R. Bath/George W. Bush. Who can believe the White House when they say they would freeze Osama bin Laden's accounts if they can find them? Also please notice, in my exclusive story about the Elder Bush/Saddam Hussein business partnership, the banks involved were Banca Nazionale del Lavoro, BNL, owned in part by the Vatican, and its bank twin, BCCI. [My exclusive story in "Spotlight", 8/19/91.]
So, father and son, ten years apart, George Herbert Walker Bush amd George W. Bush, went to war or are going to war against their former business partners. Throughout history, regimes have created an "enemy", as a straw man, and then sent their armies to fight their "enemy". This by way of consolidating their power and diverting attention from their domestic problems, and repressing the poorly informed populace.
>From the sarcastic standpoint of those who rule us WITHOUT OUR CONSENT, in violation of the U.S. Constitution, America is becoming too populated for there to be supposedly guaranteed rights. Remember, the Bill of Rights is heavily packed with the word NO. It is a shield against a tyrannical central government. At the hands, however, of a corrupt and venal federal judiciary and a treasonous central government, and a bought off and blackmailed Congress, the Bill of Rights is a worthless, useless piece of paper. The cowardly mass media are mere scriveners, writing down what they are dictated.
Under the disguise of leading a religious "crusade" against the Moslem world, every utterance dripping with the word "terrorist", are the ruling elites in the process of overthrowing the American Republic?
Who all benefitted from treasonous prior knowledge of the violence against America on September 11, 2001? Are some flag officers in the U.S. military, with full knowledge of all this, opposed to going to a war instigated by the highest circles WITHIN THE UNITED STATES?
By two moon at 4:38 PM ON 11/04/09
What a coward. Wants to appear edgy but he has the heart of a sheep. A complete fraud.
By Israel is a terrorist state at 4:39 PM ON 11/04/09
The settlers are state-sanctioned terrorists put as colonists on Palestinian land at US tax-payer expense. They have their own roads that say "Jew-Only" that Palestinians are not allowed to drive on. This is Palestinian land we're talking about and not Israel proper- land just taken by Israel that only the settlers can use.
By ohioboyz66 at 4:39 PM ON 11/04/09
the profit mohanmmad was gay he took it in the old butt he was a outcast and a liar he was nothing and is nothing
By Israel is a terrorist state at 4:40 PM ON 11/04/09
is a terrorist state and settlers are state-sanctioned terrorists put as colonists on Palestinian land at US tax-payer expense. They have their own roads that say "Jew-Only" that Palestinians are not allowed to drive on. This is Palestinian land we're talking about and not Israel proper- land just taken by Israel that only the settlers can use.
By religionofpieces at 4:41 PM ON 11/04/09
My oh My.....another gutless wus...led by fear from Satan (I mean Allah)......I can't wait until we face THEM once and for all!!!!.....Praise The GOD of Isreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By ZUPEL at 4:41 PM ON 11/04/09
Because Emmeric
h is treating the Muslims differently in not showing their religious landmark destroyed I WILL NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.
That the truth!
He is truly a COWARD
By Israel is a terrorist state at 4:42 PM ON 11/04/09
and settlers are state-sanctioned terrorists put as colonists on Palestinian land at US tax-payer expense. They have their own roads that say "Jew-Only" that Palestinians are not allowed to drive on. This is Palestinian land we're talking about and not Israel proper- land just taken by Israel that only the settlers can use.
By harleybiker at 4:42 PM ON 11/04/09
What a coward. Hollywood knows it can tear apart Christians and get away with it. But Jews, no way, they run Hollywood. And Islamics, gee, they might threaten to kill you. Well, they're doing a pretty good job of killing innocents worldwide anyway. So screw'm, they should have definitely been destroyed like everyone elses. Bring it on sand fleas.
By Aiesha at 4:43 PM ON 11/04/09
This director is pathetic,another Hollywood liberals bowing down to some third world intolerant religion and bashing Christianity as he blows up statues of Jesus and Rome.
Hollywood is afraid to show middle eastern people as terrorist in their movies, they wimp or appeasing the wrong side. I scratched this movie off my list, thanks with a family of 5 I just saved $50!!!
By evita at 4:43 PM ON 11/04/09
Just another one pushing islam down our throats. Destroy religious icon from the free world but don't step on any islamic toes.
I won't pay to see this movie.
By Faithful at 4:44 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm going to see the movie because it appears to be interesting. It's not a religious movie, so why all the uproar? Read Revelations if you want to know how it REALLY ends. This is just a movie folks!
By sdfg at 4:44 PM ON 11/04/09
SOME PEOPLE DONT HAVE THE BALLS. EVERYONE KNOWS , EVEN THE DEVIL ISLAMISTS, THAT MOHAMMED WAS A HOMOSEXUAL WHO PREYED ON LITTLE GIRLS AND BOYS. HE TOLD THE PARENTS ALLAH WANTED HIM TO HAVE THEM AND THEY WOULD BE BLESSED. THEN HE SAVAGLY SEXUAL ABUSED THEM AT AGES 4,5,6,7,8,9, ECT.. ALSO THE FACT REMAINS. ISLAM IS A CULT OF MEN WHO WANT TO CONTROL WOMAN.
By Israelis hate Obama at 4:46 PM ON 11/04/09
Polls show that only 6% of Israelis like Obama. Yet, they'll gladly take their $4 billion a year of US taxpayer money when Americans are out of work.
By john doe at 4:46 PM ON 11/04/09
look, this guy has a right to make his movie any way he wanted. being a muslim, i believe that there waz no way god could let his own home and such a holy place be destroyed in a movie. im just saying, i dont think this guy should make any movie where ppl pay $10 to watch their religios landmarks get crushed just for for such a financial desire. either way, being a religios muslim, i believe in all the 3 major religions, and believe they should not be made fun of just for the entertainment of atheus ppl. islam is a peaceful religion. we believe in christianity and judism. However, i will admit, there are some crazy ppl in this world who are born with the need of such a desire to kill. these ppl are found all over the world. kk, ppl might believe that only muslims have terrorists, but i believe differently. there are terrorists all over the world. ppl only think of muslims terrorists because they look so funny. i hate to admit it, but how can a man wearing a white dress with a foot-long beard and a machine gun in hand not be funny? but, there are other terrorists world wide. look at gangs. some gangs are based on religion, and fight for respect. Islam is probably the most sensitive to insults because they are made to loom bad because of terrorists like f*** osama binladen, who by the way, is hated by pretty much every muslim worldwide.
either way, no matter what country he is making fun of, i think its not fair ppl pay to watch other religions look like a mediocre religion falling just so its creators can get some more money in their pockets. So, if ur smart, boycott this movie.
By freedom at 4:47 PM ON 11/04/09
No Christianity is the TRUE RELIGION
JESUS CAME TO REDEEM!! We are a NEW CREATION IN OUR SPIRITS.....yes, our souls and bodies are still SINFUL..and yes, if you eat pork or even commit adultery you can still go to heaven.
If you CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.....
And ETERNAL LIFE is to know the FATHER and THE SON JESUS THE MESSIAH of God. John 17
Do we all still sin? Yes, we are still 'FLESH' and we make mistakes.....but the Goal is to be LIKE CHRIST.
SO if you truly love the Lord you will have His laws written in your heart. From Genesis to Revelation.....take it and read it and then Judge.....
GOD HAS CREATED EACH PERSON FOR A SPECIAL PURPOSE AND THE ONLY WAY TO FIND THIS OUT IS TO HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST AND THE FATHER!!
God is Good ALL THE TIME!!!
By All praise is to Allah at 4:48 PM ON 11/04/09
I just got goose bumps when I read that......it is said in the Quran, that the Kaba can never be destroyed by anyone. God himself protects this holy site. You hypocrites will never understand the true meaning of Islam cuz you all get manipulated by the media. If you really want to understand the true meaning of it.......get a true english version of it und read it with an unbiased attitude.....then you will understand the word of God.......Allah, I thank you that you guided me in my entire life...this article shows me that you are the Lord of the Worlds. Please forgive me for my sins und forgive these ppl.....cuz they do not know what they say
By jasncondit at 4:48 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is a false religion. And to the one that said Christians are killing all these people in Iraq and the crusades. They weren't Christians; they just used the name to justify themselves. Not any different than the cult of mormons who use Jesus' name but are not Christians. Jesus was very clear that "Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven but those who do the will of my Father in Heaven." Also, Jesus said "No one gets to the Father except through me [Jesus]." Islam calls Jesus a prophet and then turn around and call him a liar for saying He didn't say He was God. Of course He said He was and is and always will be God. That's why He was crucified. Those who follow Islam are in for a very rude awakening when they are judged before God without having Jesus as their Savior. Like God says "God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?" There will be no talking your way out of that judgement!
By oscsusn at 4:49 PM ON 11/04/09
technically if u dont destroy it face up the movie itself is based on the end of the world so it gets destroyed anyway so weather u do it i front of the camera or off camera what the point if they are closed minded to not understand that this movie is based on real material the end of the world so knowing that this will happen will they get mad at god and put a fatwa on him?
By widdershins at 4:49 PM ON 11/04/09
So ... the extremists win.... good one Roland!
By read books! at 4:50 PM ON 11/04/09
ummmm not that he didnt want too, the Kaaba is the one place that will avoid destruction all on its own. 2012 you will experience the north and south poles switching locations, where the north pole will become the south and vice versa. the center of the world is Kaaba, and the most energy is emitted from here. http://www.youtube.com/user/FarhanK501
By Israelis hate Americans at 4:50 PM ON 11/04/09
and laugh that we give them $4 billion a year in US tax-payer aid when Americans are out of work. Israeli polls show that 94% of Israelis do not support Obama because he has suggested that Palestinians are humans too.
By julie at 4:51 PM ON 11/04/09
I like this mover
By thejakes at 4:51 PM ON 11/04/09
"You can actually ... let ... Christian symbols fall apart, but if you would do this with [an] Arab symbol, you would have ..."
ok. the kaaba is not an arab symbol, its a muslim symbol. recently surveys suggest that 1 out of 4 people on this planet are muslim. so hes not offending arabs by doing this, he is offending 25% of the world population.
its not our fault that this society has made a mockery out of christian and jewish symbols. blame yourselves and your leaders, and do something about it.
By Israelis hate Americans at 4:52 PM ON 11/04/09
and laugh that we give them $4 billion a year in US tax-payer aid when Americans are out of work. Israeli polls show that 94% of Israelis do not support Obama because he has suggested that Palestinians are humans too.
By anonymous at 4:54 PM ON 11/04/09
The reason Christian landmarks can be destroyed today in Hollywood, without fear of reprisal, is bceause of secularization of the Western world, which was a product of a reaction against the oppression of the Church. If the Pope was around and had political influence like he had in the Dark Ages of Europe, well into the Renaissance period, one would find similar types of fatwas. It happened all the time.
As far as Muslims and Arabs being painted as terrorists in Hollywood it has gone on and continues to go on in movies like Delta Force.
While one may blame certain Muslims for their over-zealous fatwas, just because Muslims still hold their religoius symbols with venerence is a mark worthy of respect and not a symbol of earning a buck. And even Muslims acknowledge, everything, including the Ka'aba will be destroyed when the Day of Judgement comes.
By one_god_equals_every_god at 4:54 PM ON 11/04/09
First of all, its only money; that is all this is about. Don't kid yourselves. Second, no one religious belief in any place or time, in any universe, upheld by any kind of sentient being ever; has given any one of its "believers" any reason what-so-ever to claim or even think for a mili-second that the religion they have chosen to follow is the only way to obtain enlightened spirituality of any kind. No one following any religious path should ever pretend that the path they have chosen is more correct than the path of another. Every religion is flawed; they are invented by sentient beings, which are imperfect, by the very nature of sententiousness. When you make a movie: blow up what ever you want, if you’re an idiot you could try to blow up what ever you want right now in real life. When you fail; your death will have diminished us all and at the same time done us a favor. We should all stop whining about what this guy decided to blow up and chose to spend our idle time helping your fellow humans regardless of what religious path they have chosen to follow.
By Texican at 4:54 PM ON 11/04/09
Religions are an insult on the intelligence of humanity so i really don't care if the symbols get trashed..but I guess he doesn't want to be marked for death by these GOD loving people..It's not safe out there.
By ohioboyz66 at 4:54 PM ON 11/04/09
allah is fake so is god it's just story's that men fight over go to war over and for what?both are evil
By Israelis hate Americans at 4:54 PM ON 11/04/09
and laugh that we give them $4 billion a year in US tax-payer aid when Americans are out of work. Israeli polls show that 94% of Israelis do not support Obama because he has suggested that Palestinians are humans too.
By mahdia at 4:55 PM ON 11/04/09
yo u bitch SDFG, wat do u know abt islam u freak! i bet thats wat u think of doing to little kids for having such a disgusting mind!!! go F ur self..how many stories of child abuse or child pornography do u hear in muslim countries than u hear in these western countries??? ur a F ing hoe!!!! educating ur self will be good idea so u dont look like an idiottt!!!!
By aesha at 4:55 PM ON 11/04/09
to everyone who is against muslims and religion in general, i am a muslim and i am half arab and half american. so dont even say im racist or whatever. but islam is a religon of peace we believe in all the books sent down from allah [arabic for god] which include the torah bible quran,ect. the people in the 911 incident were not true muslims because they were killing people which i do not agree with at all. i think its wrong to kill or even think of killing anyone. also why should they blow up or destroy any religious land marks? its going to wind up effecting someone... and people who judge all muslims and arabs because of 911 and any other incidents that may have happen shouldnt because just as in every other religion there is good and bad people. lik in Christianity for example, they have killers and you dont see every muslim saying Christians are killers. just lik for muslims there are people who kill who are muslims but as one who is not a muslim you shouldnt say every muslim is bad. infact you shouldnt make a statement about any group of people be religion or race.because what you know about them could be false or changed around, also the ones who committed the crime could be just another bad person.. and you have to remember you cant always believe what you hear or see online or on tv. so i just wanted to say before you make a statement about any religion read about it because your likely to find out that the picture you had drawn in your head is totally different from reality. well thats all i have to say and if you think differently thats your opinion but just realize that whatever you do or say in this life time will be seen by god so you should treat everyone how you would want to be treated. and honestly many things everyone said affended me. lik if you saw me i look lik every other american, but im muslim.. wel anyways thats all i gotta say.bye
By olamiji at 4:55 PM ON 11/04/09
i think it''s not just about fatawas.the truth is that the kaabah and what it symbolizes cannot be destroyed.Islam cannot be destroyed no matter the level of hate, distortion and misunderstanding.Islam is the truth but typically people hate the truth.WATCHOUT !THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND GUESS WHAT!THE WHOLE WORLD UNITED CANNOT STOP ISLAM!
By ohioboyz66 at 4:56 PM ON 11/04/09
ok so put a fatwa on me i'm scared. screw allah the fag
By EchoSider at 4:57 PM ON 11/04/09
Why is it not allowed to destroy a Christian icon w/o destroying an Islamic one as well? Should they have picked an icon from every religion on earth and destroyed it on film? Would it have really helped to progress the plot of the film?
By freedom at 4:57 PM ON 11/04/09
MUSLIMS
Read The book of the Prophets.
Read Daniel 9:27 (recommend the whole book)
He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on a wing of the temple he will set up an ABOMINATION that causes DESOLATION, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
Isn't this your landmark? This ABOMINATION of DESOLATION spoken of in the book of Daniel.
By tata at 4:57 PM ON 11/04/09
The Muslims belive in jesus and forbidde the insult of other religions
TO YOU ALL , I WANT TO ASKE YOU ?
why do u hate islam or miss understand christianity or islam or othesr religions
and from where did u get these ideas
the answer will be TV and what the priss people tell u and want u to belive
so don't be a fool talking about driving and u have never ride or see a car
go and find what u r missing u may find ur thoughts true but then u will be convinct
By read till the end at 4:58 PM ON 11/04/09
So most of you are offended, or say it is not fair that an Islamic symbol is not destroyed
I'm a Muslim, and it outrages me to even see Jewish or Christian symbols being destroyed, the sad thing people are ignoring the bigger picture
why is it ok to destroy any of the religious symbols??? Don't we all believe in the same God, or at least the same moral values, when someone in my class Mocks Jesus (peace be upon him) i was the only one to shut him up, and i was surprised to see that Christians didn't move at all
some call it freedom of speech? since when freedom of speech means that you are allowed to mock all sacred religions?
Islam is already a mockery to others, and many Muslims dont want to see that happen in movies, which brings me to my point, Christians shouldn't allowed such movie to happen in the first place
and sadly the reaction of very few Muslims is always stupid, which to retaliate and go violent, which totally goes against the Islamic teaching, and what is more sad, that only these few extremists stand out to media and people, forming a horrific image about Muslims all over the world
You don't Islam fine, BUT KEEP it yourself, u hate Christianity also fine BUT KEEP it yourself too, and don't pollute people's minds with such filthy comments and mockery of what is sent by the divine himself
as for the movie itself, it didn't make that much of sense to me
and for people straining off the topic are just bunch of idiots,ok islam is the fastest growing religion in the world? so ur point is? I hate to see people rambling around with a name of a religion and they no idea of what is going on!
And for everyone who says that Islam Allah muhammad teach muslims to kill non-muslims are just wrong, because that is not the teachings of Islam at all, and please don't spread these misconceptions about a religion that you have no idea about
but from a movie prospective, the movie was flushed down the drain, when he chickened out and decided not to destroy Mekka
By DOCROC at 4:59 PM ON 11/04/09
Screw Muhommed and screw Emmerich. He needs to treat everyone equally and allow Islam be seen for the joke that it is in the world. They always come out and show their true colors.
By Slarty Bartfast at 4:59 PM ON 11/04/09
Wow, listen to all that love here!
You need to join the 1 true religion of peace and become buddhist.
By workandcrash at 5:00 PM ON 11/04/09
Honestly I don’t care what his reasons for not destroying an Islamic symbol were. I really don’t care about religion one way or another but I do care about a person’s right to express him self without the harming of others involved. He has a right to delete the scene of the Kaaba’s demise, it is his own “God” given right as your religious types are always referring about. I’ll see the movie, I’ve always been somewhat of a freak when it comes to special effects and I really don’t give a crap about any religious overtones because from what I’ve seen of the movie trailer tells me is that “nothing will last forever”. I’m an American and proud to be called an American but I fear no religion and the only faith I accept is the faith I have in myself, family and loved ones. So keep hating each other in the name of God, Buddha, Allah or whatever god your pray to, it just makes “my faith” that much stronger. Carry on Religious Bigots…
By Jesus Our Saviour at 5:01 PM ON 11/04/09
HE IS ANTI CHRIST !
By ChRiSTisSuPremE at 5:01 PM ON 11/04/09
Acts 17:24-25......... He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn't live in man-made temples, and human hands can't serve his needs- for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need.
By JustThink at 5:01 PM ON 11/04/09
I'M NOT AFRAID OF ISLAMIC MILITANTS. I'M AFRAID OF 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT COMMENTS HERE. IF YOU RULED THE WORLD WE'D BE IN A HECK MORE MESS THAN WE ARE NOW.
CHRISTIANITY AS THE RELIGION OF PEACE? IF THE COMMENTS BY SO-CALLED "CHRISTIANS" HERE ARE ANY INDICATION, THEN THINK AGAIN. IF YOUR FAITH IS SO FRAGILE THAT YOU FEEL A NEED TO MAKE HATEFUL, ERRONEOUS AND JUDGMENTAL COMMENTS, THEN ITS TIME TO QUESTION YOUR FAITH.
ITS A MOVIE! GET A LIFE!
By john doe at 5:03 PM ON 11/04/09
@jasncondit
i totaly respect ur opinion, but muslims believe that jesus never said he was the son of god. we do not believe he wuz. we believe ppl said that, resulting in a popular belief. based on muslim belief, jesus is a prophet and was saved by god from a terrible fate, and that he is still alive and will come and eventually lead a war along side the muslims, and that with his help, we are fated to win. there are evidence of the quran bein true, and famous accounts of scientist converted into muslims because of the evidence they have stumbled upon in their research. i respect ur opinion, but god help us all. who noes who could be rite? but religion is pretty much the only thing that keeps us from doing bad and turning this world into chaos. May we meet each other in heaven someday, my friend
By Some Guy at 5:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Good luck with that olamiji... Islamics are real 'friendly'. Just like us Christians, and Jews, and all these other religions.
Its not like atrocities haven't been committed in the name of nearly every major religion known to mankind.
Today's world generally hates religion, so good luck.
By Jesus Our Saviour at 5:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland Emmerich won't destroy: an Islamic landmark because HE IS ANTI CHRIST !
By eagle at 5:05 PM ON 11/04/09
You chicken. It is okay to destroy the western world because we are civilized, but you spare the muslims because they live in the dark ages. It would great fun to spend my American money on seeing Mecca reduced to a parking and using it as a parking lot for a big SUV!
By JustMe at 5:06 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm a German and I feel ashamed for Roland Emmerich being such a coward.
By elvisd at 5:06 PM ON 11/04/09
Fag. Just like those European governments who rail against "outdated" christianity and tremble at anything that remotely offends their muslim immigrants.
By tom at 5:07 PM ON 11/04/09
Oh, so us Christians should say we'll kill people who demean and blaspheme our religion and it symbols, too. That way, we'll get some respect from the likes of Mr Emmerich and his liberal Hollywood buddies....
By Human at 5:08 PM ON 11/04/09
Geez, people, it's a freaking movie. It won't depict the future or anything. I do think that Emmerich destroying religious icons was rather offensive and all in all, stupid. BUT. That gives no one an excuse to virtually insult Islam, Christianity, or any other religion. Honestly, most of the commenters sound like extremists themselves.
Destroying religious icons is indeed being very ignorant and shows disrespect toward a ton of people, but we need to understand that Islam accepts all religions and BELIEVES in Jesus. Christians have similar beliefs, but due to time, they have progressed and have been altered slightly to fit society. However, Islam is one of the more recent widespread religions and hasn't really had time to progress. Progress does't mean going from terrorist to liberalist; in my opinion, it's about being open-minded and whatnot.
Calling the creator a wuss isn't really going to help anyone or anything. Be civil, people, we can hold intelligent religious debates all we want, we can be Muslims or Christians, but we're all human. I do believe that Emmerich should have based the destruction theme off of something other than religious icons though... It seems to stir up a controversy online before it's even out. D:
I might watch it, but I'm not about to make an extra effort to do so.
By aesha at 5:09 PM ON 11/04/09
some of yall people are very rude. like god help yall. i no i sin to but some of the things yall say are not called for. like ive actually been to the middle east and it is so pretty.they dont like in the dark ages, they just choose not to change things
By daniel at 5:09 PM ON 11/04/09
why even show Mecca if your not going to destroy it?
By jayrod at 5:10 PM ON 11/04/09
WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO LET TERRORIST TO KEEP WINNING??
BOO-HOO TO THEM.
By Wildman at 5:11 PM ON 11/04/09
TO HELL WITH THE STUPID KAABA, TO HELL WITH ISLAM AND THE FRUITCAKE RADICAL MUZZIES. TO HELL WITH MOHAMMAD THE HOMOSEXUAL CHILD MOLESTER FROM HELL. If that pisses you off as a Muslim, BITE ME you flea bitten camel jockeys. As for Emmerick, grow a set of balls and stop sucking islam's root.
By Some Guy at 5:12 PM ON 11/04/09
Its interesting how religion is everyone's scapegoat.
Not the idiots using it as a shield. They use it so they don't have to go and say things themselves.
Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and other religions preach peace, yet anger is the outlet of the so called 'believers'. I myself have outlets of anger.
I admit my sins.
The imperfection is in humans, not in religion. Humans like this Roland Emmerich character.
By aesha at 5:15 PM ON 11/04/09
to wildman.
lik really how old are you?
ive seen 5 year olds act more mature.and read about the muslim religion then talk.and any other religion for that matter
By Islam is Peace at 5:15 PM ON 11/04/09
What is the matter with you people?! Being a person of the Muslim faith, its true when I say that yes, the Kaaba IS a sacred icon in Islam. From our point of view, we take it very seriously when a religious icon of ours is made fun of, ridiculed, or in the case of this movie, being destroyed. It's a person's duty to stand up for their religion, and Islam is the only religion that truly tries to do that. I don't understand how the Christian society is tolerating the use of their religious icons in this movie.
And why is it so bad when a Muslim tries to protect their faith? How come whenever a Christian or a Jew tries to do that, it's all right?
The Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were a disgrace to the Danish. Nobody in their right mind would ever say that the cartoons were in any way amusing, Muslim or Non-Muslim. I'm sure that if anybody drew Jesus and ridiculed him, even in writing, people would not stand for it.
BTW: Whenever a person hears the word "Islam" all they think about is terrorism. This should not be the label for all Muslims, which apparently most people who commented are saying. The terrorists that people are commenting about are only a simple minority of the Muslim Empire. How would anybody like it if someone said that "certain countries" are based on fighting and killing people and labeling everyone in that country as terrorists? Does anyone think that the people in Iraq or Afghanistan like the US barging in on their land from time to time? Does anyone think that they think that the US is a land of freedom and that everyone in it is trying to create peace? Of course not. They probably think that anyone who attacks their land is a terrorist. How do you think the reputation of the US is in front of the WORLD now?
It's disturbing to see that people are still looking at the news that's setting all the hype and won't even look into the beautiful Islamic faith and what it says. In the Qur'an, clearly stated is that peace is to be made with all. Sure some people don't follow this rule, and again, they are only a handful of people, just like other extremists of other faiths. Every other Muslim on this planet follows that rule. And that is why Islam is Peace.
By Some Guy at 5:15 PM ON 11/04/09
We are all human, not trying to indicate that none of us aren't.
By 2012 is real noobs at 5:16 PM ON 11/04/09
i think this movie is gunna be awesome!!!
By Islam is Peace at 5:16 PM ON 11/04/09
What is the matter with you people?! Being a person of the Muslim faith, its true when I say that yes, the Kaaba IS a sacred icon in Islam. From our point of view, we take it very seriously when a religious icon of ours is made fun of, ridiculed, or in the case of this movie, being destroyed. It's a person's duty to stand up for their religion, and Islam is the only religion that truly tries to do that. I don't understand how the Christian society is tolerating the use of their religious icons in this movie.
And why is it so bad when a Muslim tries to protect their faith? How come whenever a Christian or a Jew tries to do that, it's all right?
The Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) were a disgrace to the Danish. Nobody in their right mind would ever say that the cartoons were in any way amusing, Muslim or Non-Muslim. I'm sure that if anybody drew Jesus and ridiculed him, even in writing, people would not stand for it.
BTW: Whenever a person hears the word "Islam" all they think about is terrorism. This should not be the label for all Muslims, which apparently most people who commented are saying. The terrorists that people are commenting about are only a simple minority of the Muslim Empire. How would anybody like it if someone said that "certain countries" are based on fighting and killing people and labeling everyone in that country as terrorists? Does anyone think that the people in Iraq or Afghanistan like the US barging in on their land from time to time? Does anyone think that they think that the US is a land of freedom and that everyone in it is trying to create peace? Of course not. They probably think that anyone who attacks their land is a terrorist. How do you think the reputation of the US is in front of the WORLD now?
It's disturbing to see that people are still looking at the news that's setting all the hype and won't even look into the beautiful Islamic faith and what it says. In the Qur'an, clearly stated is that peace is to be made with all. Sure some people don't follow this rule, and again, they are only a handful of people, just like other extremists of other faiths. Every other Muslim on this planet follows that rule. And that is why Islam is Peace.
By freedom at 5:16 PM ON 11/04/09
We'll all have a true awakening in the END.....we'll all know what is TRUTH!!
WHEN JESUS COMES BACK FOR HIS BRIDE!!!
CAN'T WAIT!!
By Talib712 at 5:16 PM ON 11/04/09
I respect his decision NOT to portray the destruction of Islam's most holy place Mecca. It is not the point of fatwas that should be the concern, it should be RESPECT for others who hold such a place in deep regards. If I were a movie maker, I would not depict the destruction of any religion's holy place out of respect for those it has deep meaning for, and by the way I am Muslim. A movie can be well made and not attack people's religion or holy sites. For you bigots who make comments about destroying Muslims and Islamic holy places, it just shows how stupid and ignorant you really are. Not all Muslims are terrorist or subscribe to terrorist acts!!!
By marvelousM at 5:17 PM ON 11/04/09
LMAO at muslims, they worship a CUBE.
By Atarimark at 5:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Coward! Its ok to demolish Jewish or Christian symbols but cowers down to Islamic extremist. Thats exactly the kind of thinking they want from people and Emmerich is letting them win. For this reason alone, I will not see any more of his movies which is a shame because I loved his previous movies.
By Galal at 5:21 PM ON 11/04/09
See how you are hate Islam ?
in the same time muslims talk peacfully about other religions
now who r the uncivilized ??
please be objective and let hat
try to think freely
thnx
By RYKOR at 5:23 PM ON 11/04/09
Actually, I think Emmerich and crew got it exactly right. IGNORE the over sensitive fanatics and let them fade into obscurity, like the ancient egyptions who sanded off the likenesses of the previous pharoah hoping all memory would disappear. Don't immortalize them in film, turn your back on them and hopefully drop trou to boot.
By Anna Doe at 5:23 PM ON 11/04/09
NordonPL, you sound to me like a convert or a takiyist muslims, i.e. you were lied to or you are lying to us:
1) You wrote: "In Islam killing one person is like killing humanity."
This is koran 5:32 where allah speak to the Jews not to the Muslims.
To the Muslims allah ordered many times in the koran to kill the polytheists, atheists, animists and to subdue/enslave the Jews and Christians.
2A) In islam, allah in koran 4:24 allows the Muslims to have sex with their wives or their right-hand possessions (even if they are still married).
Right-hand possessions are usually slaves/women taken captives in wars during jihad. mohamed himself had a few. Read the story of Juwairiya. See how Safiya after seeing her family beheaded in fear aggree to be married to mohamed, she knew he would rape her anyway... Read about Mariah the Copt etc...
By benzi at 5:23 PM ON 11/04/09
@marvelousM
hey dumbass, the cube you refer to was first founded by Abraham. you remember him right? or was he also taken out of your "holy books" like everything else those child molesters determined would be too much for you to handle.
do some research. your texts have been altered in a way that has left your religion in the realm of idolatry.
the bible lies.
By RabbitFish at 5:24 PM ON 11/04/09
I'll go see this just for John Cusack. If he dies, I leave.
Now, lot of folks are making excellent points in these posts but have to get this off my chest.
Emmerich can destroy Christian landmarks because they are just that - landmarks. Each Christian is their own temple/symbol/landmark and you could not destroy that person's faith until that person is destroyed and not even then. That is where the Christian faith is based. For him to state that the folks who were praying at St. Peter's were wrong to do that just shows how ignorant he is. Those folks went out comforted by their prayer and their belief in God. That was all they needed. Just like Muslims pray to Mecca and yada yada yada. He's a twit and a moron. Btw, yeah, I'm Christian. Wanna' make something out of that, Emmerich??
By Anna Doe at 5:24 PM ON 11/04/09
2B) islam allows pedophily as long as the guy is married to the child: while we despise the Christian "priests" and put them in jails, in islam shariah allows child bride because mohamed himself married a 6 y. old Aisha and consumated the marriage when she was 9.
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1. Koran 65:4 says that the IDDAT (waiting period to be sure there is no pregnancy before remarying) for pre-pubescent girls is 3 months.
2. Koran 33:49 says that if you have not had sex with your wife then there is no iddat.
Therefore, in order for a 3 month Iddat to be observed for pre-pubescent wives, you have to have had sex with her.
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By houseparty738 at 5:25 PM ON 11/04/09
TYPICAL!!!!!! Shoulda had Salman Rushdie make the movie!
By TRUTH HURTS at 5:25 PM ON 11/04/09
I agree Emmerich is a wuss but I respect him for admitting it. Besides my GOD "THE LORD JESUS CHRIST" can handle any criticism and he don't need me or any of his followers killing for his sake since he "IS ALL KNOWING & POWERFUL" to do it himself. It has become obvious after all these years and all these conflicts in the world that "Allah" just can't do it on his own w/o the help of his radical lil helpers being thugs, liars and cowards. GIVE ME JESUS!
By freedom at 5:25 PM ON 11/04/09
Since Muhammad is dead and gone and JESUS is alive and well sitting at the right hand of THE FATHER, I wonder if he (Muhammed) knows the TRUTH?
That JESUS IS THE ONE TRUE LORD and SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.
I'm guessing he knows now!!! I wonder if he regrets rejecting Jesus as the Son God?
Yeah, probably!!
By ok give me an axe at 5:25 PM ON 11/04/09
lol ok edmond bend over i'll make it quick and painless
and for the record if all religious sites,monastaries,churches,and symbols get destroyed what's the point in skipping one monumental piece if it's the end of the world(movie wise) everything gets demolished so muslim aside why get pissed about it if god(or nature take your pick) ain't sparing the rest of the world what makes them special
By Meaningless at 5:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Since when is Hollywood qualified to predict the end times? They are not God, but the media tends to worship them. So is the last relic on Earth supposed to be holy or unholy?
Revelation says Jesus will call his people home to heaven in the rapture BEFORE earth is destroyed. Also, Solomons Temple was destroyed..but I AM was not hurt/destroyed.. If an Islamic relic is destroyed, is their supreme being hurt?? Why the fuss? This is free hype to sell a movie.
By muslimdude at 5:27 PM ON 11/04/09
i personally wouldn't have been offended if the movie showed the destruction of the kaaba due to flooding, or other natural calamity. it has been destroyed before by floods and fire and can only happen if Allah wills.
btw, muslims don't worship a cube or the black rock.
By Doqua at 5:27 PM ON 11/04/09
How about a new Star Trek movie? The Borg have a smaller space ship hidden right out in the open here on Earth. it's the Kaaba. The Muzzies are little Borglettes which were bred by Mohammad having sex with a 12 year old Borg youngling, thousands of years ago. The Borg come back by Earth to check things out and WW II starts and ends in about 30 minutes. We all become Borg. Well, that's what the Muzzies want. They want everyone to be mindless Muzzies and if you refuse, they cut your head off. Ali Bahhhhba
By Truthdozer at 5:27 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey everyone...
first off this director is a cowardly punk plain and simple. He is symptomatic.
What do Muslims and transformers have in common??
They both worship a cube!
By Lori at 5:28 PM ON 11/04/09
Good question Daniel. It doesn't make any sense to even put it in the film. What significance does it have. Christians can stand up for Christ by not watching the fim. I for one will not support these types of film with the hard earned money entrusted to me.
By Anna Doe at 5:28 PM ON 11/04/09
3) mohamed didn't want prisonners of war: he enslaved the women and kids and beheaded the tied men. Read Tabari VIII:189 or the sahih ahadith about jihad and prisonners or see koran 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land." Again read what happened in Khaibar or Bne Quraiza.
4) islam forbids to steal other Muslims and barbarically cuts hands for that. But stealing the Non-muslims is often not punished. Afterall allah said in koran 8:1 "They ask you about the benefits of capturing the spoils of war. Tell them: 'The benefits belong to Allah and to His Messenger.'"
I am sorry, you were lied to. islam is horrible. Please read by yourself the koran, the sahih ahadith and the sirat rasulallah, without the embellishing (lies and deceit) of the mullah.
NordonPL and other Muslims here, you can find me (and many others, including ex-Muslims) at faithfreedom dot org
Come debate us and free yourself!
By Truthful at 5:29 PM ON 11/04/09
why would he even put it in the movie in the first place? he puts it in and then doesn't destroy it for the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people who defame others.
By PORKY at 5:31 PM ON 11/04/09
This movie will start the end of the world. U will see.
By typical bunk at 5:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Just goes to show...again...how intolerant members of islam can be against the rest of the world. If this guy can't stand up for his right to be a human being HE SHOULDN'T MAKE THE MOVIE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!
By @me at 5:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Religions are different, and it is crucial for the sake of the world peace to get to know what makes a religion particular and give them the respect they want. If the West can joke with their religion, over one sixth of the world who happen to be muslims do not with their faith symbols. Respect and consideration, that's what sould make the world a better place for all of us.
By LorenzoS at 5:32 PM ON 11/04/09
Wow. So far from the trailer I see a Crucifix in a church abolished and the huge statue of Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro turned to dust and he doesn't want to offend muslims. A religion which I've never once heard of doing a good deed, for any one but other muslims. You hear of Christians charity and benevolence every single day. I might just skip this movie because of the sheer disrespect. Islam is an organized religion. And it's Organized religion that predicts the end of the world. Everyone of them. He's a Wuss and a hypocrite. The murderous islamic religion operates on fear and Roland plays right into their hands. I wonder if the word even appears in the Koran. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believe in him shall have everlasting life. And we Christians wont bomb and kill if you choose not to believe.
By ayub haqq at 5:34 PM ON 11/04/09
alhamdulilah for your respect of the religion of islam
By oss at 5:34 PM ON 11/04/09
firstly, well.... it is necessary to inform people, including this director that all 3 so called - religions are middleastern and or / arab religions , not just islam. infact, an objective analysis would reveal that they are so similar in doctrine and origin as to be the same religion.
europe adapted those religions because it didnt have one of its own. matter of fact, it adapted everything else as well. recall that it was a very backward place compared to china, middle east and india for millenia.
now back to my original point - the director is a loon although i will say i did like independence day.
By Truthful at 5:37 PM ON 11/04/09
He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the wall of wailing in jerusalem (aka Masjid Al-Aqsa's wall).
If that was showed in the movie and not destroyed, no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
Why don't atheists hatred against Jews for a change!
By TwoCentsWorth at 5:38 PM ON 11/04/09
I agree with some of the others here. Apparently the terrorist and intimidation tactics of Islam, the supposed "religion of peace" are working. Pretty pathetic of you to roll over like that Roland. If you're destroying all the famous religious symbols no one can accuse you of favoritism. Now, they can and also of cowardice.
By Tags at 5:43 PM ON 11/04/09
He's not afraid of actual fatwas.
He's afraid of fatwabilities.
By gotyour6 at 5:43 PM ON 11/04/09
my family will not be seeing this movie just because they left that out.
By Truthful at 5:44 PM ON 11/04/09
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube. And taking Qur'an verses out of context is the most ignorant thing you can do. Islam is one religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God). The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start?
By MOH at 5:45 PM ON 11/04/09
1: Muslims destroy there own temples and people etc...
2: I thought the world is destroying everything not a human
3: He in no way is a wuss just a smart man who wants to make money and not worry about it.
By religionofpieces at 5:46 PM ON 11/04/09
The director is gutless and compromised his art for politics....He has NO INTEGRITY!!!!!!....Let the arab fundamentalists KNOW WE LIVE IN THE FUCKING 21st century!!!!!!!!!!ASSHLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOu appease them you have FEAR....THat is exactly what they use as weapons.....BRAVO ROland!!!!!!
By ED at 5:46 PM ON 11/04/09
THEY GOT 35.213 WORLD OF KILLING IN THIER QURAN AND INTERPRETATION OF IT
By Hassan at 5:47 PM ON 11/04/09
lol, some of the comments are hilarious. can't u just feel the anti-islamic love in here? its funny, that all of you can sit here and bash islam and say we are terrorist and we are the one who preach violence. yet, look at some of the crimes that the west has commited. the illegal persecution of millions of native americans, the slavery of millions of africans, the bombing of innocent people in Japan and Vietnam. the support of ruthless dictators from latin america to africa, and the middle east. it is all of you who posses thousands of nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction, and WE are the religion of violence and terror? lol, nice try
By Tags at 5:48 PM ON 11/04/09
How exciting can an action movie made by a milquetaost be?
Doesn't bode well.
By Rykor at 5:48 PM ON 11/04/09
WHAT A BUNCH OF PUDDIN' HEADS. I know why Emmerich is anti organized religion. It's because of ALL of the whacks in here that jumped on the religious bandwagon so hard you broke the freakin axle. I am hearby starting an anti religion. It's called, " A sense of humour". Whoever doesn't have one, DIE.
By love-abid at 5:48 PM ON 11/04/09
my gosh after all the things throughout history, and curruption the christian, chatholics, and jewish religions have gone through throughout history, people still throw fits about something like this. Its a movie nothing more. for the director its his choice, to do what he wants in his movie, wrong or right. so if you dont want to see this movie dont, thats all there is to it. personally it looks kinda cheesy to me, ive seen alot of movies like this so im not really interested, but ill most likley buy it when it comes out on disc later this year to judge it myself.
TWO look up whats really happening to muslims in the palastin area, they are not terrorist by no means . Islam is a religion who submits to god and no one else, they do not go and blow places up for allah alone, only with his graces for their souls. If you watch your family and friends die in front of you face, because of your religion how would you react? its really nice to see the ignorance of americans who follow biased media thats paid to show one side of the story. It also shows the biggorty of everyone who talks abbout something they dont really know, or even try to learn. dont blame a whole group of people who come from all backgrounds and countrys of life for a few peoples action of that group.
By mike lason at 5:50 PM ON 11/04/09
I think the reason its so touchy is because muslims believe the kaaba was built by prophet Abraham and its sort of considered gods connection to earth. All muslims must pray at the kaaba before they die. Blowing up the kaaba, to a muslim, is second only to blowing up God. I'm sure if they blew up the golden mosque in cleveland it would not have been that big of a deal.
By Ramrod at 5:50 PM ON 11/04/09
Must BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
By moh at 5:51 PM ON 11/04/09
ITS A MOTHERFUCKING,MOVIE YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE.
By religionofpieces at 5:51 PM ON 11/04/09
He's not smart....He's a jew with no balls!!!!!!!!!!!....
By workandcrash at 5:52 PM ON 11/04/09
Get a life people....I'm going to the movies and I hope it's as good as the trailer. Argue about religion if you want because all your doing is showing your ass to the world.
By Ali Muhammad Al Fatturd at 5:52 PM ON 11/04/09
Does anyone know if the Kabob will fly? It looks very "space ship" like. What do the Muslims do, kiss the walls or something?
By Rakan at 5:52 PM ON 11/04/09
I'd just like to remind Mr. Roland Emmerich that neither in Islam nor in our Quran do we destroy religous symbols of Christians or Jews. It's you, in the west, that come up with all these jokes about Christ or about other religous things.(and we honestly do not like that).
We respect all the heavenly religions, and that's why when our Prophet is offended by your people, we keep away from offending your prophets.
There is a billion other things to joke about, so please keep away from frustrating or humilating other people's beliefs.
By gilly33 at 5:52 PM ON 11/04/09
I have to agree with most folks here. Here is this guy saying he is against organized religion and avoids hurting the poor little muslims.Gimme a break. Islam is an organized religion. I have noticed in this country it is ok to bash chrisianity and catholicism but God forbid you say any about the eastern religions you are considered prejudiced and narrow. Well Mr. Emmerich it is a freedom of speech protestant country that is allowing you to make your crappy movie. Why not go make your next disaster flick in India or Iran. schmuck.
By ug boy at 5:53 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey jdmimic ..."The Christian terrorists tend to go after abortion doctors "? At least they are going after who they feel are mass-murderers.
Why not just wash out all of Mecca and Medina and leave it to the audience to guess if the kaaba et al are destroyed? Oh yeah, that would require the director to be creative and not a whimp. Not even gonna rent this because the director was afraid. Face it, the blanding and softening of America continues....
By muslim honor at 5:54 PM ON 11/04/09
NordonPL and other Islamic people - Faleh Hassan Almaleki killed his own daughter as an honor killing because she was too westernized - freedom and equality for women under Islam is a myth
By mohamed at 5:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Alhamdolilah, they wont do that!!
By Derp at 5:55 PM ON 11/04/09
This guy sure thinks highly of himself to think that people will even go to see this movie.
By Truthful at 5:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Why would he even put an Islamic place in the movie in the first place if he wouldn't destroy it? For the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people like him who defame others.
He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the wailing wall in Jerusalem (aka Mosque/Masjid Al-Aqsa's wall) not being destroyed. But even if he did show it no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
And all you atheists should target their hatred against Jews for a change and see what doesn't happen.
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube (the Kaa'ba is a symbolic place which was built by Prophet Abraham to worship God, not the place). And taking Qur'an verses out of context is absurd. Islam is the only faith/religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God).
The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start?
And they say that Jews have been oppressed for centuries, well it seems like they are taking vengenace out on Muslims. Behind all the terrorism is really the Jews. What are exceptional at defaming others so they create drama to associate hatred toward Muslims-- something they have been doing for centuries.
By darkman at 5:56 PM ON 11/04/09
they did that in "Independence Day" movie and what about and he also forgot "Dome of Rock" in Jerusalm
By bleh at 5:57 PM ON 11/04/09
oh yeah mr director lives in america. over in iraq land, their gonna hijack a plane, fly over to hollywood, and crash it into his house. hes a coward if hes scared of a fatwa or whtever. nice joke by the way, truthdozer. lol and all tht
By mike at 5:57 PM ON 11/04/09
This is horrible Most of this Country is Christian how dare Roland Emmerich and corrupt hollywood attack Christians but be afraid and not to attack Muslims. I will boycott this movie and hope everyone else does not watch it! its okay to attack the peaceful forgiving Christans and Catholics but not Muslims who have a much a younger and voilent religion!
By ug boy at 5:58 PM ON 11/04/09
Your prophet is offended because we are non-believers and eat bacon. Don't BS us and give us a holier-than-thou attitude. Your hate will eventually consume itself. peace brother.
By truth at 6:01 PM ON 11/04/09
Muslims always attack christians and Catholics but its not okay to attack them? their religion and so called quran plagerized Christanity and the Bible and basically mocked Jesus Christ by saying he is not God and mocked everything we believe in! The Muslims constantly kidnap and murder Christians in the Middle east for being christians but its not okay to verbally disrespect muslims? Roland Emmerich is a evil atheist coward! I will boycott this movie!
By onlypeace at 6:01 PM ON 11/04/09
Kaaba is a Muslim site not an "Arab" site. Not all from the middle east are muslim. Christianity predates it by 700 years.
By bleh at 6:02 PM ON 11/04/09
and all u people who r saying muslims r innocent, look at 9/11. now tell me the muslims r innocent u hypocrites
By Rykor at 6:03 PM ON 11/04/09
I wish I could get the majority of you all in one room. You'd beat each other to death and by doing so, rid the world of some of the crap. One little bit at a time, that's what I say. We need better public transportation around the world. If we could get all the fanatics together sooner, the rest of us real people could live in peace and not worry about being collateral damage. LOL
By JAMena at 6:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Before the Arabic Muslims invaded and destroyed the middle east it was the Catholics and Christians who controlled it and they were not called Arabic or Arab they were Christians called Assyrian or Chaldean and many others!
By Erica at 6:04 PM ON 11/04/09
i agree with limey.(((((( By limey at 1:06 PM ON 11/02/09
You mean you can destroy the "The Sistine Chapel in the Vatican", "St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican"and "Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio de Janeiro" but not any Islamic icons. Are you nuts? What is wrong with this Country when everything goes except the islamics and muslims?
I was looking forward to seeing this movie but now it is on my sh** list.)))))))
its just a movie ....and no other religion is better then the other that is are belief .....so if all world goes down they should too........(just a movie) end of line...oh and if u dont liek movies and to live in this world with alot of people u should live in a cave or villiaGE OR something
By MIKE H at 6:05 PM ON 11/04/09
FOR SOMEONE even a lifeform for HOLLYWEIRD TO BE onesided as to not DESTROY THINGS EQUALLY means he is major biased. NOT TO MENTION ..NASA HAS ALREADY DISBUTTED THE 2012 MYAN calander and the info from the picture makers as HOG WASH(BS) to be nice.check there sites.. AND SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT SEE THIS MOVIE!!
By bleh at 6:07 PM ON 11/04/09
and all u people who r saying muslims r innocent, look at 9/11. now tell me the muslims r innocent u hypocrites.
By opinion at 6:07 PM ON 11/04/09
true hassan!!
the director is an idiot. he shouldn't have made this movie at all since its all bologne. bashing ANY religion is WRONG and this is whats wrong with this damn society nowadays.
By READ THIS at 6:08 PM ON 11/04/09
What a pitty that there is so much hate for the Arabian People, Let's not forget that it was the Jews who killed Jesus and it's the Muslims who believed in him. Well, today its those darn Muslims and tomorrow the Nigg**s and the day after the Whaps, and so on...I love our counrty ...it's never boaring here ... Have a nice day and Asalam Alaikum Bitches :)
By bleh at 6:08 PM ON 11/04/09
and all u people who r saying muslims r innocent, look at 9/11. now tell me the muslims r innocent u hypocrites.
By Louai at 6:08 PM ON 11/04/09
may i say that al-kaaba is not just some symbol appointed by a some random religous man....it was appointed by god...unlike other religous symbols that were made by man
this is the place most cherished by the world......plus if christian or a "white man" wants to destroy his own symbol...let him do it.....just leave our stuff at peace
By Rykor at 6:08 PM ON 11/04/09
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By Darkman at 6:08 PM ON 11/04/09
Roland also The "Dome of the Rock" get away cause it a jewish holy site. I dont see Jews as violent extermist so why not include "Dome of Rock" In Jurslim
By Erhardt at 6:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Ok. He attacks Christianity (not just organized religion) by having the statue fall apart.
He knows he is safe...because the christians of the world will not put a fatwa on his head. THEN, he chickens out against the muslims. Because they're violent. So much for conviction!
Just because of this, I will NOT go see that movie...and I will wait at least 5 months before I even rent it after it goes to video.
Mr Emmerich: the christians you despise so much are more peaceful, more tolerant, and STILL have more guts than you do. They would at least have the balls to be fair. If nobody speaks out against Islam, because they fear for their own head...IN AMERICA... then how ON EARTH are we going to drive back "the forces of darkness" hmmm?
Your weakness just shows that you aren't afraid of Christians. Good for you. We're not trying to scare you! Hollywood proves, yet again, that it is FAR from the cutting edge of society. They are mostly followers. (and if they're not careful, they will "submit", as that is what Islam means: submission)
By gaecea at 6:11 PM ON 11/04/09
one time please just once I would like to see muslims or jews being attacked in a big hollywood movie instead of always seeing Catholics and Christians targeted. but I guess jewish controlled hollywood will never attack themselves and they will never attack the corrupt muslims because sadly they dont have the balls too!
By blessed at 6:11 PM ON 11/04/09
I can see the hatred of western world toward Muslims by reading these postings, It make me believe that still in 20th century, how much they hate Islam and Muslims, these are Christian and Jews fundamentalist . Who are killing innocent children and women all around the world in the name of freedom, they were crusaders and they are still crusaders their mentality is same as it was 100 years back.
By SomeGuy at 6:12 PM ON 11/04/09
@bleh just because some terrorist organization destroyed the towers doesn't mean all Muslims are bad, its just those retards who are bad.
And actually, according to Islamic belief, the Kabaa is supposed to be destroyed by a massive army.
By A-Ron at 6:13 PM ON 11/04/09
A wussy, but probably pragmatic, move...
I get the fear he or his cowriter might have -- islamic fundamentalists make christian fundamentalists (lower case for both on purpose) look like the Brady Bunch... and I include McVay in that family.
However, I would generate as much publicity over why he didn't do it, possibly even to the point of including a shot of the Kaaba in the movie with subtitles reading something like "Site protected due to unreasoning bigotry and hatred of those who find it Holy"
Yeah, a bitchy move, but while I understand his desire to keep his life, we need to repeatedly point out the stupidity of the idiots who think killing in Allah's name is warranted because someone "dissed" you.
Art (even mediocre art) shouldn't result in death because you pissed someone off... the fact that it pissed someone off means you got to them, which is the point. Being pissed off reminds us of why we think something is important. It shouldn't make us want to destroy those who remind us of what we forget daily. If we want to destroy the artist, it points out OUR limitations as a person, not the artists.
By le meera at 6:14 PM ON 11/04/09
Effing douche. Sure, everyone can go off and diss Christianity, but you gotta leave the Muslims alone.
What? Do we need Christian extremists bombing another building in NYC for people to leave off Christianity?
By Christian at 6:14 PM ON 11/04/09
You may think you fool people but you don't.
I am so tired of movie makers thinking they can push their ideals on us by hoping we want notice their little discrepancy's in their movies.
You are anti-Christian. Just admit.
I for one will not be watching your movie.
By BeNiceTOislam at 6:15 PM ON 11/04/09
HAHAHAHAHA THATS RIGHT MOTHAF$*%S .. that's how you know when you're apart of a great religion. when there is soooooo much hate lol KEEP HATIN' I SEND YOU ALL MY LOVE!!! haha
By le meera at 6:18 PM ON 11/04/09
He can't diss the jews cuz they own Hollywood. Bullshit.
If you're out to diss all religion, diss em all.
By BIG GUY at 6:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Worried about offending muslims - are we crazy - this is a movie. The problem in this country is that we are too concerned about those towel head wearing bastards. If the camel jockeys don't like something , are we suppossed to offer our apologies. Never will they get one from me ! What a pussy assed director !
By Erhardt at 6:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Darkman said: "Roland also The "Dome of the Rock" get away cause it a jewish holy site."
No. The Dome of the Rock isn't Jewish. It's a MUSLIM site, where Mohammed supposedly ascended to Heaven. ...oh, I'm just loving this chicken movie. Every religion gets attacked, except Islam and the Director.
If nobody ever speaks out against Islam...how can it do ANYTHING but spread! If nobody ever challenges it's crimes (including REAL ONES, like fatwas)...then we will get MORE of it, not less. His decision was pure appeasement. ("don't come after me, hit the next guy")
By Darkman at 6:18 PM ON 11/04/09
and beside this 2012 will only be the end of the Mayan Calender not end of the world that will only happen is the second coming of Jesus and only god knows. Watching this movie is pointless cause it make fun of Mayan heritage for one and 2nd destorying religionous monuments and posting them on the internet will be serious intentions to create "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM" "RASCIM".
By sonny at 6:18 PM ON 11/04/09
hey Christians have never used their religion to attack anyone the wars are for oil not religion get your facts straight! the crusades were a defense from the muslims who invaded the Christian Middle east and the muslims invaded many other Christians nations killing milions of innocent christians just for being christian The Crusaders saved millions of innocent lives from you corrupt muslims and if it wasnt for them I would not be alive and millions of others would not be not only that but many people would of been forced to turn to Islam by the sword if it wasnt for the Crusades you Muslims are Brianwashed and Jewish controlled Hollywood will not attack you because they are afraid due to the amount of violence you and your religion have caused on this world! also Muhammad was proven to be a murderer and a pedophile even unto his death!
By HI at 6:20 PM ON 11/04/09
HA U CANT DESTROY ISLAM MAN ISLAM 4 LYFE
By imememine at 6:20 PM ON 11/04/09
"Why ... don't [we] have the church fall on people's head?" Emmerich said.
That's funny. This no-wit thinks a bunch of people have only one head.
By AJ at 6:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Islamic symbols aren't something for anyone to joke or play around and this is suppossed to be the case for any other religion not just Islam. So good for him that he made the right choice by not showing the KAABA in his movie, but he was suppodded to not show any other Religion symbols as well because Religions are all about respect.
You have the right to disagree with my Relegion but u don't have the right to disrespect it.
GOD Bless
By schooch at 6:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Lets Face it......He a Chicken Shit!!!!!
By Lifeisatest at 6:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey all you americans, do you like being racist or something? First you go to Africa and kidnap the African Americans and make them your slaves, then you "realize" your mistake and make everyone equal, yet now you see Islam as terrorists instead of the millions of doctors and enginneers they are around the world. You americans wont admit your own faults and go around hating everything that isn't the same as you. Im not saying im perfect, but you americans dont have a clue.
How many of you christians have read the bible, in it Jesus(pbuh) talks about someone that will come after him, and we should listen to him, and he is talking about Mohammed(pbuh), who started Islam, so we should listen to Islam.
guess what? every prophet taught Islam, even Jesus(pbuh) and Moses(pbuh).
Oh and im waiting to run into someone that asks me " have you accepted Jesus(pbuh) as your savior?" I will reply yes but the person asking me will most likely be Christian, so i will ask him the same question and if he says yes, i will say, thats funny because when Jesus comes down he will side with the Muslims, in fact, right after he comes down, he will particapate in one of the five daily muslim prayers. So, the christian guy should as well be asking "have you accepted the anti-christ as your savior? I dont mean to disrespect christianity, but the people that call themselves christians, it's not even funny how sinful they have become.
Last thing, would you rather live a life in heaven that you cant even imagine how wonderful it is that lasts for ETERNITY or take whatever you want in this life and be succesful and have luxuries in this life that lasts for approxiamtely 70 YEARS? The answer seems obvious right? yet its sad how many people choose this life over the herafter.
All im asking is for people to accept one another for however they are, and educate themselves for the future, becuase you wouldn't want to spend eternity in hell, just becuase you were too lazy to seek the right path in this life.
By le meera at 6:22 PM ON 11/04/09
DUDE. this roland guy's gay. he isn't dissin christians cuz it isn't like they're gonna stone home when they find out.
By Rykor at 6:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Just a quick final question.
Are you guys serious??????? Or are you just havin fun at other peoples expense, like me? I can only hope it's the latter and not the former. ALL YOU FUCKS ARE SCARING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Truthful at 6:22 PM ON 11/04/09
Why would he even put an Islamic place in the movie in the first place if he wouldn't destroy it? For the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people like him who defame others.
He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the Dome of the Rock/Wailing Wall in Jerusalem (should be known as Masjid Al-Aqsa) not being destroyed. But even if he did show it no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
And all you atheists should target their hatred against Jews for a change and see what doesn't happen. And they say that Jews have been oppressed for centuries, well it seems like they are taking vengenace out on Muslims. Behind all the terrorism is really the Jews. What are exceptional at defaming others so they create drama to associate hatred toward Muslims-- something they have been doing for centuries.
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube (the Kaa'ba is a symbolic place which was built by Prophet Abraham to worship God, not the place). And taking Qur'an verses out of context is absurd. Islam is the only faith/religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God).
The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start? Stop using the lying media for your source of information about Islam. Jews own mainstream media sources so hatred toward Islam/Muslims is inevitable.
What people fail to realize is that there are bad people in every region of the world. It is atrocious to think that people would stereotype killings and terrorism as Islam. If a certain culture allows certain horrible things to happen, it should not be associated with the wrong thing. Americans have been so good at mixing up things about other cultures for centuries. For a simple example, think about the cartoons that wrongfully portray Arabic culture mixed with Indian cultures where there are belly dancers (of non-Muslim Arabic regions) and men with head turbines (of the Indian Sikh culture) and profound Indian music.
It's also such a shame to think that Americans cannot simply tolerate anyone that will not assimilate with its ways. Why are only Muslim countries the target of US foreign policies? Until they don't look like us we can't accept them? For example, Americans don't find modesty acceptable when it's done by Muslim women but it is okay American women wear Islamic culture inspired clothing ("tunics", "scarves/wraps", etc). And what if you turn the tables and learn that Muslims don't find it acceptable to be naked publicly. It goes both ways and it a matter of perspective and culture.
Doesn't anyone have the ability to think about anything from the other perspective? What about all the Muslims that have been killed by non-Muslim root terrrorist organizations like "George Bush & Robert Gates?" Just because Muslims are not dominant and don't have their own mainstream media to demonize such people doesn't change the fact. Even though chaos is spread through organized efforts (aka US military) it does not change the name of terrorism. The US is actively engaged in terrorism but constantly blames random Muslims and puts them under the limelight.
Mainstream media is always giving us personal relationship advice that we should learn to accept each other for who him/her is and don't try to change someone because it won't be successful. Well, why can't we apply that same principle to people of different faiths and culture? Unless you are full of unjustified empty grudges you would be open-minded.
By mike at 6:22 PM ON 11/04/09
the dome of the rock was a Jewish site and Muslims stole that just like they stole the middle east from the Christians and Jews! the dome was conquered by you evil muslims in a war in 637 ad!
By Lifeisatest at 6:24 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey HOSS, you are what you eat.
By Khan at 6:24 PM ON 11/04/09
Dear all, after reading many comments (random ofcourse) I see many people here have a WRONG perception about Muslims and Islam which is understandable after all thats been happening around the world.
Many friends here mentioned that Islam is a religion of PEACE, and sure it is. Islam is not about terrorism or voilence but the only TRUE MEANING OF ISLAM is that you believe in God (ONENESS OF GOD) and follow the path of HIS PROPHET (PBUH).
Look what is happening in Pakistan, a muslim country's army is fighting these taliban (terrorists in other words). If terrorism was something a preferred way of living in Islam, why would people (muslims) hate them and why would muslims fight them, something that will make you understand Islam if only you make an effort to know more about Islam.
You can only understand this after studying Islam with good intentions (and not with intentions to point out any flaws or faults, I bet though you will not find a single flaw in Islam, there maybe some practices which will not make sense to people who are non-muslims but once you TRY to understand the real reasons behind I guarantee you you will not think of anything wrong, go watch Dr Zakir Naik videos on Youtube for all your questions/answers, thats the least you can do to know about Islam)
Back to the movie, in Islam they say that God protects this place (the Kaaba) from all the evil and destruction and many conspiracies have failed since ages (thousands of years they say), so I think its part of that believe that this place goes unharm even in movie. I am really glad that Harald made a sensible choice and excluded this part in the movie, it's a good positive sign from the Hollywood to give some respect to Muslims.
Nevertheless, I hope the movie will be good, can't wait to watch it
God Bless us all and America.
By Lifeisatest at 6:24 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey HOSS, you are what you eat.
By lol at 6:26 PM ON 11/04/09
Would be totally ironic if some christian nut job takes him out for what happens in a fu..ing movie.
By erhardt at 6:27 PM ON 11/04/09
RESPONSE TO MUSLIMS:
blessed said: "they were crusaders and they are still crusaders their mentality is same as it was 100 years back."
blessed, I don't mind the fact that you're a muslim. We have a lot in common. I don't know in what country you live, but America is not all that intolerant of other views. We, in fact, enjoy discussion and debate.
What we don't enjoy are fatwas.
And the director of this movie was afraid. Why? He was afraid of DEATH. He wasn't afraid of christians, worldwide...despite the fact that he demolished at least 3 historic christian symbols in this movie. He wasn't afraid of Americans (even though he is IN America) since he gleefully demolished American sites. He wasn't afraid of Buddhism. He WAS afraid of Islam. Why?
Is it because the man fears Allah? Does he truly love Allah or want to obey him? No. (he wanted to be an equal-opportunity exterminator of religions, including my own)
He didn't attack Islam, because he's afraid FOR HIS LIFE. ...and you think Christians are violent and crusading? HE'S IN OUR COUNTRY, ok? He doesn't have to fear for his life, on our account.
WHO is more tolerant and loving? The fundamentalist christian (there are many in America, who will watch this movie, and enjoy it...)
Or the fundamentalist Muslim...
Who would've put a fatwa on the director's head, WITHOUT having paid for the movie ticket.
That is all I am going to say. Please, visit America some time.
By tropp at 6:28 PM ON 11/04/09
hmmm. christian guys, if u love ur religion, why do you let him do so? the fact is christians are too busy making themselves happy than care about their religion. though i admit they are peaceful people.
and if muslims love Islam to the point that they cant see their holiest place being destroyrd. kudos to hem. their is some self-integrity!
westerners are so gullible! they hear aperson say somethng in mike one day and for years they keep on repeating it, quoting it as if the words were the only truth uttered. come on guys, do some research, open ur minds. dont buy evrythng brought under ur nose. Tagging islam with extremism is just as at a time ppl hated jews, now why the world regret that. dont u learn from history???
By macD723 at 6:29 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm getting so sick and tired of bending over for muslims! Oh, God forbid we ever hurt their fealings! But it's ok for them to say they want all Jews and Christians to die, and actually act on it. If I had the video equipment, I'd show it being blown up. Put a fatwa on my head and see how far it gets ya. Hmmm, gives me an idea for a youtube video.
By Rykor at 6:30 PM ON 11/04/09
Wasn't it zealous muslim religious individuals who destroyed the giant budha statues in afghanistan? Who said they respect other religious relics? Bueller?? Bueller??
By REAL TIME at 6:31 PM ON 11/04/09
TRUTHFULly , YOU NEED A HOBBY
I HOPE YOUR NOT WRITING FROM THE STATES BECAUSE YOUR FREEDOM TO BE AN IDIOT WAS PAID FOR BY THE ONES YOU BASH....FOOL
By mjornir at 6:31 PM ON 11/04/09
up until the time of Abram (abraham), muslim-islamic and christianity were of the same. in order for mohammud to secure the promise of completing the hajj (he was denied passage on his first attempt), starting the following year, mohammud had to make deals with thier enemies (religeous) by returning any and all "escaped" converts-whom were usually roped and gagged against their will back to those of the convert's previous religions...
when did Jesus betray mary magdalene-sided with the pharisses (remember- "you are the synagogue of satan, and i will make it so you remain the synagogue of satan...")-or fail the tempting of satan,- or moses giving the hebrew back to pharoah,- or sampson not standing up for the chosen people?
list goes on and on....how can anyone respect mohammud for failure of faith?
adam is the first, and Jesus is the Last, except no immatations...
By fmorsh at 6:33 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm amused by the number of hypocritcal comments in response to this article. The amount of ignorant stereotypes here is absolutely apalling. It's pretty sad how people stereotype everyone in the Islamic community based on actions made by INDIVIDUALS, and not Islam as a whole. Every religion, group, organization have extremists. If I'm correct, there was also a group called the KKK, and it still exists as of today. But simply because of actions made by the members of the KKK, I don't go around judging and bashing every white person I see. That would be a disgusting thing to do. It's sad to see that ignorant, uneducated people are continuing to increase in numbers and deteriorating the future advancement of our society.
Ironically, people are saying how they want to "boycott" the movie simply because of this detail.... isn't that a bit extreme? Aren't you, in a way, protesting? I won't answer that because I don't have the place to do so. Unlike some of you, who have managed to do so on behalf all the muslims in the world. How are you qualified to explain the way muslims think?
By the way, I'm a teenager and I know well enough (unlike most of you) on how to express my opinion without incoherently bashing on other religions or groups.
By tropp at 6:34 PM ON 11/04/09
@ macD723 uh, so u dont see what jews and christians together are doing in a name of fighting terrorism. there is a limit to hypocricy. and u just hear people badmouth muslims and copy them. have u evr thought it might be a huge propoganda?
By rykor at 6:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Shaddup kid, we're having adult fun here. LOL
By chocofudges at 6:36 PM ON 11/04/09
for the guy who said that women equality in Islam is a myth, let me correct your seriously screwed up vision and show the difference between CULTURE and RELIGION. While Arab culture is generally quite repressive and twists the words of the Qur'an, the Qur'an actually does not support unequal treatment of women; it tells men to treat their mothers and wives kindly and ordains women to be modest in their clothing and actions so as to not tempt men and live a virtuous life. Gee, I wonder what percentage of American girls have lost their virginity before legally being able to drink.... There is a section in the qu'ran praising the mother, reiterating mother three times in the line to emphasize the respect one should give her. Arab culture is very oppresive against women, but there is no where in the qu'ran that says that women cannot voice out their opinions or get jobs or do anything that men cannot do (so long as they do not mingle with unrelated men). How do I know this? I am a Muslim who lives in America and plan on going to med school to become a doctor, am a straight A student, and have a scholarship in college. It was my parents that supported this, so the idea that the qur'an is oppressive to women is WRONG!!. It is Arab society and culture, not religion, that creates such a negative view of women which is caused due to poverty, extreme government censorship, corrupt governments, differing factions in society, and lower education levels. You see that in all developed countries, regardless of what religion, women slowly gained their rights.
Also, the Qur'an tells muslims to not hurt others who have not hurt them. Therefore, if America has not done anything to the muslims, the muslims should not hurt any Americans. You don't see muslims bombing up Mexico or Uruguay or Panama or any places like that do you?
And only a few muslims attach bombs to children which is against the qur'an since you are taking lives of innocent children, regardless of whether or not they are muslim or not muslim. These men who do this to children should not be considered true muslims since they only follow part of the qur'an and ignore the other parts.
Also, there are terrorists in ever fraction of society, Christian, Jews, etc. No one ever talks bad about the Massod which is guilty of kidnappings and torture, or how Israel (not all jews, Israelis) came to be Israel by forcefully expelling Arabs from occupied lands. When there is one bad apple (Osama), apparently all apples become poisonous.
Truthful, I completely agree with what you say, and it does seem that Islam is the only truly monotheistic religion.
Everyone places so much connection between muslims and terrorists while Columbia actually has the most terrorists today (as a side note). Before even saying Islam is a religion of terrorism, read some of it and don't take sura's out of context. The beheading quotes are all related to WAR not peaceful times.
And about the movie, I would have been a little upset if the Kaaba was destroyed, since the Jew's wailing wall is not shown to be destroyed which makes it seem biased against both christians and muslims. If all three were destroyed, i would not be too bothered since it would fairly destroy all others and not give any hidden messages. Of course, some extremists will react against it, but maybe not more than extreme Christians. The only difference would be that the Muslims would get more media and look worse due to the few pronounced extremists.
By BigT at 6:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Once again proving that Islam is the best religion. For all the people who think the director is afraid of his life, he isn't. Why would he be. Your just jealous because we love our religion more than any other religious group out there.
By JP at 6:38 PM ON 11/04/09
He don't give a crap about Islam or their thoughts or beliefs. He left it out because he don't want some lunatic maniac hunting him down over a movie scene and killing him or blowing up his family. Don't blame the guy, but he should say what it really is. It sure as hell isn't out of respect for some organized religious belief. More out of fear for zealots and potential lunacy by them.
By JESusaVES at 6:39 PM ON 11/04/09
The US would have been wiser to limit immigration from all over the world. There are so many foreign cultures, beliefs, and religions here that we have all but lost the beliefs and morals that this country was founded on. If there are so many people here that do not agree with the traditional American beliefs and Judeo-Christian faith, then please, go back to your own country instead of trying to take this one over. The endless epic mistakes that have been made and are being made in this country are the reason the USA is not in end-time prophecy. This country will not be a super power then. But one day, "every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." I am so sorry that for so many it will be too late to realize that.
By Truth at 6:39 PM ON 11/04/09
Why would he even put an Islamic place in the movie in the first place if he wouldn't destroy it? For the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people like him who defame others.
He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the Dome of the Rock/Wailing Wall in Jerusalem (should be known as Masjid Al-Aqsa) not being destroyed. But even if he did show it no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
And all you atheists should target their hatred against Jews for a change and see what doesn't happen. And they say that Jews have been oppressed for centuries, well it seems like they are taking vengenace out on Muslims. Behind all the terrorism is really the Jews. What are exceptional at defaming others so they create drama to associate hatred toward Muslims-- something they have been doing for centuries.
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube (the Kaa'ba is a symbolic place which was built by Prophet Abraham to worship God, not the place). And taking Qur'an verses out of context is absurd. Islam is the only faith/religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God).
The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start? Stop using the lying media for your source of information about Islam. Jews own mainstream media sources so hatred toward Islam/Muslims is inevitable.
What people fail to realize is that there are bad people in every region of the world. It is atrocious to think that people would stereotype killings and terrorism as Islam. If a certain culture allows certain horrible things to happen, it should not be associated with the wrong thing. Americans have been so good at mixing up things about other cultures for centuries. For a simple example, think about the cartoons that wrongfully portray Arabic culture mixed with Indian cultures where there are belly dancers (of non-Muslim Arabic regions) and men with head turbines (of the Indian Sikh culture) and profound Indian music.
It's also such a shame to think that Americans cannot simply tolerate anyone that will not assimilate with its ways. Why are only Muslim countries the target of US foreign policies? Why hasn't the US gone to any European country to change them? Until they don't look like us we can't accept them?
For example, Americans don't find modesty acceptable when it's done by Muslim women but it is okay American women wear Islamic culture inspired clothing ("tunics", "scarves/wraps", etc). And what if you turn the tables and learn that Muslims don't find it acceptable to be naked publicly. No one comes to the US with a "campaign against nakedness" like we go to other countries with campaigns against modesty (aka oppression)." It goes both ways and it a matter of perspective and culture. It's unfortunate that majority wins and being unmoralistic and associating sex with even drinking water is the majority nowadays. Muslims are targets of hatred because people really know that they are the only people left with any true morality and they wish they would also jump on satan's bandwagon.
It's just a shame that Muslims are blamed for being terrorists but: Do Muslims send missionaries to convert people like Christians do? Do Muslim countries invade other countries to change their ways. How would we like it if Iran occupied the US with military on an effort to bring modesty and righteousness back to Americann people? Do Muslims have a mainstream media outlet defaming non-Muslims all the time like the US has? Who's the real terrorist? The bully aka U.S.A.
Doesn't anyone have the ability to think about anything from the other perspective? What about all the Muslims that have been killed by non-Muslim root terrrorist organizations like "George Bush & Robert Gates?" Just because Muslims are not dominant and don't have their own mainstream media to demonize such people doesn't change the fact. Even though chaos is spread through organized efforts (aka US military) it does not change the name of terrorism. The US is actively engaged in terrorism but constantly blames random Muslims and puts them under the limelight.
Mainstream media is always giving us personal relationship advice that we should learn to accept each other for who him/her is and don't try to change someone because it won't be successful. Well, why can't we apply that same principle to people of different faiths and culture? Unless you are full of unjustified empty grudges you would be open-minded.
Muslims will be hated until they become satanic and unmoralistic like everyone else. Too bad that will never happen so I guess the movie too illustrates that Islam stands strong until the end.
By the guy on the couch at 6:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Really? Its funny if anyone that s is a true christian or Jew wouldn't take it offended if someone mocks Christianity or Judaisms. Stop blaming Islam because small group of people use the religion or there own greed and selfishness. It's funny how we make fun all the time about Jesus
By rykor at 6:41 PM ON 11/04/09
This thread appears to be degenerating into a, "My weenie......oops, GOD, is bigger than your GOD." kinda argument. LOL
Do you guys do standup? Where can I catch your show? What's the admission fee and does it go to a charitable cause? Can I write it off on my taxes? Any particular clothing requirement or can I dress in my usual "Screw you all" attire?
By jc2day at 6:44 PM ON 11/04/09
Ok. FYI, Khan:
THE DOME OF THE ROCK IS ISLAMIC. That's why it wasn't depicted.
To depict the wailing wall falling apart...without depicting The Dome of the Rock falling apart with it... would have been TOO MUCH of a double standard for any atheist. So he left it out. He's trying to avoid a fatwa, ok?
Ok. WE misunderstand muslims? Uh, no, we don't misunderstand. Atheist directors don't fear the peaceful variety of muslim. America tolerates that kind of muslim.
Don't you understand:
It wasn't out of respect that the Emmerich didn't demolish a muslim monument. It was out of fear.
Fear of the same people that you say you are not allied with.
You should DEFEND the right of the director to not be afraid of Islam (and demolish a muslim site in the movie)... by doing THAT, you would be taking a stand against muslim EXTREMISTS of all stripes.
By interpreting FEAR as RESPECT....
woah...
you are demonstrating that you have a similar mentality to the muslim extremists.
Please, pick another side to stand up for.
By Walailailailai at 6:46 PM ON 11/04/09
U GUYS ARE SO FREAKIN IDIOTIC
IF THE KABBA DIDNT GET BLOWN UP YOU GUYS SHOULD BE HAPPY
ITS LIKE YOU WANTED YOUR FAITH BLOWN UP IN THIS MOVIE
THE GOLDEN TEMPLE DOESNT GET BLOWN UP
i hate math midterms btw :P
and careers class :(
PLUS
you guys have the GODDAMMM CROSS AS UR SYMBOL, the MOST VIOLENT SYMBOL IN HISTORY, SO STFU
btw all u catholics
PAGANISM OWNNNNNNNNNNNSSS
By trying to understand at 6:46 PM ON 11/04/09
Muslims always say “understand our religion before you say bad things about us”. But how do we understand them when they isolate themselves from the rest of the world?
Muslims, let me say this: you regard our women as trash because they are not covered from head to foot. You regard us as inferior, ignorants because we do not pray five times a day. You kill anyone who you think has maligned one of your symbols. You regard anything western as sinful.
After treating us this way, you expect us to befriend you ?
Well Emmerich, at least you have the potential of 1.5 billion muslims going to watch your movie ! if you didn’t want to risk your life by offending muslims, then why did you show the Kaaba at all?
By fmorsh at 6:53 PM ON 11/04/09
@tryingtounderstand : Please do some research before spewing out comments that don't make any sense. In the religion of Islam, there is no place where it says to judge people because of the way they dress or who they worship. The religion specifically states that individual people, or muslims, have no right to judge anyone or anything as "sinful." The "muslims" who do so are spiteful individuals who use the religion in a twisted way to judge people. It gives Islam a bad name. Islam is not that kind of a religion.
Do your research kid.
By rykor at 6:54 PM ON 11/04/09
This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in
Prison ministry. The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose.
The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!!
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and
Answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and
Clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel'
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!'
I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct'
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie
Jar. He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'
I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'
The Imam was speechless!
I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you another question: Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me'
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the Diversification
Training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. To elect the
President! I think everyone in the U.S. Should be required to read this, but with ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us send it on! This is your chance To make a difference...
By IB at 6:55 PM ON 11/04/09
After watching the trailer and after reading some of the comments, i suggest you use the time and money that you would have spent on the money, and instead donate it to your place of worship, wildlife fund, habitat for humanity, enviromental tree huggin kind of place, your family, museum, art gallery...........REALLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY
By fmorsh at 6:57 PM ON 11/04/09
But I do agree that Emmerich should have just kept the Kaaba out of the movie, considering it's causing much debate.
I think he did it as a ploy to create controversy. I'm sure he would love that.
By mjornir at 6:58 PM ON 11/04/09
from tropp:
hmmm. christian guys, if u love ur religion, why do you let him do so? the fact is christians are too busy making themselves happy than care about their religion. though i admit they are peaceful people.
and if muslims love Islam to the point that they cant see their holiest place being destroyrd. kudos to hem. their is some self-integrity!
westerners are so gullible! they hear aperson say somethng in mike one day and for years they keep on repeating it, quoting it as if the words were the only truth uttered. come on guys, do some research, open ur minds. dont buy evrythng brought under ur nose. Tagging islam with extremism is just as at a time ppl hated jews, now why the world regret that. dont u learn from history???
for those of us identified as christians, not catholic (roman apolstolic), Lord God said we shall not have any graven images (such as the muslim black box of nannar (allah is a derived form of nannar, practices sacrifice of your children-remember, abram was given it as a test and he passed the test w/o an actual human sacrifice), we also are not to worship false gods. ishmael was given protection by the God of abraham, whom we "christians" call Lord God. it is not our fault that the God of abraham chose the lineage of isaac to continuewith favour, if you want actual history on that, it would be advisable to look at the bible a little closer (but be wise with it because out of all religions, christianity was the only one that was relentlessly attacked-daniel, tribe of dan in the cave with 3 lions for worshipping Lord God, hebrews in egypt, christians martyred in rome.
by the way, how many of us are DOA in your muslim states vs: muslims in ours?
now, as for religion, can you honestly say that you observe love thine enemies?
I dont think so...because we are the ones being martyred....
By trying to understand at 6:59 PM ON 11/04/09
fmorsh, thank you for the reaction.
what research is required? you want me to do statistical analysis? survey? standard deviations?
i am saying that this is the west's perception of muslims. there is no right or wrong with PERCEPTION. that is how you are seen. whether it is how you believe or not..is irrelevant.
question is: is it ok with you that this is how you are seen? if not....then will you do something about it? or are you content to just leave it like that?
By cubbyphil at 6:59 PM ON 11/04/09
I'm not a born-again, Bible-thumping Christian, I'm just a Christian, and I am right in line with this director's thinking. Since we are commanded not to worship graven images, it is OK to destroy a statue of Christ. It's just a statue. It is also OK to destroy graven images of false gods, so go ahead and blow up all the Buddhas you want. It is also OK to leave the Muslim's structure alone in this movie; let them worship their graven image, like the Satanic Agents From Hell they are. Emmerich is not caving in to terrorism, he is being practical. Why do something that would place innocents at risk of a terrorist act, when - after all - it's just a movie, something the Satanic Muslim Agents From Hell can't understand. "Satanic Muslims" - OK, so I'm being redundant with that. So sue me.
By jc2day at 7:02 PM ON 11/04/09
Dear "Islam is Peace", I understand your point.
But that is not how Christians operate. At least, not anymore. Maybe back in the 1200's we would have gotten violent over such things. But we do not, now. We have learned our lesson. We value PEOPLE more than monuments or symbols.
PEOPLE are made in the image of God. Not monuments, which are made only in the image of man. Monuments can be replaced. PEOPLE cannot. Every one is individual, and precious in the sight of God.
As for "standing up for our faith"... we do this, by not paying the director ONE DIME for his crappy movie. And spreading the word about how stupid it is. Here, I thought the movie would be about proving how humanity would all be in the same boat. But the director bowed to fear at the last moment.
Not respect for Allah. FEAR of a muslim terrorist. You should be verbally attacking the muslim terrorists, not him.
Islam is proving that it is incapable of learning from history. They still issue fatwas, and try to kill people, for disrespecting their holy sites. Christianity is moving AWAY from that. Since the protestant reformation, we no longer place monuments and images in such high esteem, any more.
Our understanding of God is that He is ABOVE images. He is, in fact, indestructible. Nothing that is created can destroy the One that is non-created. Everything is subservient to Him, and this will be revealed in time...not because of our strength, might, or willpower. But because God is God. He is everywhere, knows all things, and is all-powerful. Without our assistance.
We care deeply about Him and we count our personal faith and relationship to be of more importance, than whether a holy site gets demolished (in fact OR fiction!)
You cannot stop a movement like ours, because it is not bound to geography. And nor is it bound by pride or fear. The strength of Christianity is in a God that we do not control, and Who is above us, and cares for ALL humans (and Who wants all humans to believe in Him, voluntarily out of love and voluntary respect).
Islam, in practice, operates based on the fear of other men. Look. Look at where Islam is the strongest. There you fill find tyrannies and heavy persecution of other faiths. Fear.
By rykor at 7:06 PM ON 11/04/09
soooooo, how about those Mayans??
By fmorsh at 7:13 PM ON 11/04/09
@tryingtounderstand: That's the problem. The sad thing is that people blindly base all thier thoughts on Muslims on perception, or what they see in the media, or what they hear around them. There are many fabrications about every group or organization, but it's up to each individual to come up with an ACCURATE perception, and not to simply stereotype, which seems to be the easy way out.
-By research, I mean knowing the truth about the religion before stating anything as fact. The comments you made in your earlier post are simply not true about Islam. I would never state my opinion as facts. For example, I wouldn't say anything about Christianity because I don't know enough about it. Because then, it would be considered a fallacy.
- And no, I'm not content on seeing any group being falsely accused of terrible actions. That is why I'm responding to your comments. I'm explaining to you what the Islamic religion really states about the topic being discussed in your earlier post, so you won't continue to percieve the notion that Islam is a radical, violent religion that shuns anyone who is a Non-muslim.
By jc2day at 7:13 PM ON 11/04/09
cubbyphil,
you misunderstand my position. (ok: here's a lesson for some of you. Right here, you have a christian disagreeing stridently with another christian, in front of muslims and atheists. It's ok, to have a disagreement. We can talk things out as fellow humans, fellow christians...without getting bogged down. Or fearful.)
The reason why I oppose the director's decision to omit ANY destruction of islamic sites is this: he did it to everyone else!!!!!
This movie is going to be a FAVORITE in the middle east!
And, if this decision were repeated a thousand times... you would see Islam's influence grow. HERE. IN AMERICA.
And do you think that Islam (as a culture) remains peaceful, all of the time?
THEY aren't critical enough of their own terrorists... which is why we should be. Notice: they subtly stick up for Islam, and DON'T even mention the REASON for the director's decision: a fatwa.
That means that they are weak in the face of fatwa's themselves...and are prone to tolerate (and even condone) them.
So where Islam grows (strengthened by our weakness) ... you will see death and persecution. THAT is why we need to take a little more of a stand, here. Fairness is fairness.
By jaz at 7:15 PM ON 11/04/09
a sissy. by admitting that you're afraid of a fatwa encourages militant muslims to sow more terror. it would now seem to validate their tactics of terror to force people into submission. i am a christian and am offended by the suggestion that you can destroy christian symbols with impunity. but since i am a peace loving christian, what i will do is not watch your offensive movie and pray for your soul. may you be enlightened.
By Bea at 7:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Thank you so very much for this article. I had planned on seeing this movie, but being a Christain, I just can't support this film maker. However, I wish him well. He is a very talented movie maker. God Bless America. In Jesus, Bea
By trying to understand at 7:20 PM ON 11/04/09
fmorsh, i would love to have an intelligent dialogue with you about this. i have been looking for a muslim person i could have a dialogue with about these perceptions to see how i can help bring about peace. i tried to talk to some in the net...but they ended up just bullshitting me and shutting me out. i was not trying to antagonise them, i was trying to understand where they were coming from - but they resented my questions. i was only asking questions.
do you belong to a forum where i can find you? obviously we can not leave our email addresses on this page.
By The 5th Angel at 7:20 PM ON 11/04/09
This guy is quite the lame poosie.
Fear makes cowards.
By mayUBenlightened at 7:21 PM ON 11/04/09
dear friends, especially people who hate Islam just because you ** THINK ** all muslims are terrorists. I would like to ask you :
(1) how did you approach to the news/info that " all muslims are terrorists " ?
your possible ans: Media
(2) By whom/ what nation, are these media operated ?
ans: US/ anti-islamic organizations
(3) Suppose you run an advertising agency/ media; what would you do to pursue people against your enemy ?
YOUR POSSIBLE ANS: use ** PROPAGANDA **(text or speech that uses false or misleading information to present a slanted point of view.) reference: (ridersenglish.edublogs.org/glossary-arranged-by-unit/)
(4) What did US do to raise people/ citizens against its enemies during WORLD WAR II ?
ans: used *** PROPAGANDA ***
(5) Now what do you think US( MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS ) did to you by advertising the term OR SHOULD I SAY: ....~ ** MYTH ** ~.... that all muslims are terrorists ?????
THE ONLY PRECISE ANSWER :
they pursued you by using *** PROPAGANDA *** OR IN OTHER WORDS: the process of spreading *RUMOR/ FALSE IDEA* for the purpose of **INJURING** your opponent !!!!
MY DEAR FRIENDS IF YOU ARE STILL NOT CONVINCED WITH MY ABOVE REASONING, THEN I would like to ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION:
if guy "A" kills thousands of people & guy *B* kills 11 ***MILLION*** whom will YOU call THE BIGGEST TERRORIST ??? obviously the one that killed 11 MILLION !!!
***** AND if YOU ARE EDUCATED enough/ or atleast **PASSED YOUR HIGH SCHOOL** you should be familiar with ~*# HITLER #*~, !! .........and what religion was he from ??? .............. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO ANSWER THAT !!!
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then why not we call HIM *****CHRISTIAN TERRORIST/ EXTREMIST/ FUNDAMENTALIST******* ????? WHY NOT ?????
cause Christians are now ruling the earth, and they can conceal their history ????? ------- SO DOESN'T IT MAKES CHRISTIANS ***** RACISTS ***** ALSO !!!!
MUSLIMS CAN CALL CHRISTIANS TERRORIST, EXTREMIST, FUNDAMENTALIST, RACISTS BUT ~THEY DON'T~ cause Islam doesn't teaches them to CRITICIZE people !!!!
my small advice to you guys:
" before criticizing others backyard; CLEAN YOUR OWN " !!!!
By jc2day at 7:25 PM ON 11/04/09
fmorish: "I think he did it as a ploy to create controversy. I'm sure he would love that."
No. This was not a ploy. This was real FEAR. He WANTED to put it in there, remember?
The ploy is releasing the reason WHY he didn't put it in there. This at least generates a buzz of discussion...which is what we have here.
It's a valid discussion. Because fatwas are a real threat.
Although, I must admit, I consider Jesus to be a little stronger than a fatwa.
Make no mistake, though: If we don't speak out against FATWAS... we will get more and more of them...and there will be fewer and fewer willing to even debate or question Islam or anything muslims do.
Even anonymously. Do you want to see that happen? What kind of world would that be?
The kind of world muslim terrorists are working for. It BEGINS as a war of words. But if there is no opposition, then the only side being heard is ISLAM. And if they're the only side being heard, they will be feared (because of social pressure). And if they are feared...then they will increasinly become dominant...and VOILENT toward dissent.
This is what we SEE in the middle east. It would be good FOR THEM if their Islamic site was broken. THEY need to loosen up!!
God is not dependent on monuments to hold His glory, or obtain worship.
If we pretend that He needs such things... then we will become violent against those who dare criticize our religious monuments and iconography.
Don't you see? If we allow this mindset to go unchallenged, Islam will never change...and its violence (and toleration for it) will only escalate, as there are fewer and fewer targets.
By rykor at 7:27 PM ON 11/04/09
Thank whoever that I don't have a backyard to clean. You people in a microcosm represent more death and destruction than any war to date. I'll see the movie, because I just found out that Emmerich is anti organized religion. May you all rot in your respective hells, where ever that may be.
By shamit at 7:29 PM ON 11/04/09
let me guess the person who's making the movie is Cristian
By fmorsh at 7:31 PM ON 11/04/09
@tryingtounderstand: I appreciate your interest in learning more about the religion. But I'm just like you in that I'm also learning about Islam each day. I would be happy to have discussions with you and try to answer any questions you may have. However, I can't guarantee an answer all the time considering I don't know all the details about the religion, and it isn't my place to give away assumptions. I actually don't have a forum, I usually don't even comment on articles but I had to on this one because of the comments being posted on here. You can reach me on morshed92@yahoo.com ---this isn't my official email address, just one I use when I don't want my actual email to be flooded with spam.
It's good to know that there are people out there willing to understand.
By uptoyou at 7:34 PM ON 11/04/09
the movie shows that the kaaba survives this hell. hahahaha
the reality is that the kaaba survived because it evokes fear on anyone who even thinks of destroying it. is this a religion based on fear? this is what Emmerich has succeeded in putting across
By ignorance at 7:35 PM ON 11/04/09
u guys are all ignorant and dont know wat u are talking about. half of wat u say makes no sense... grow up seriously.
By fmorsh at 7:36 PM ON 11/04/09
@jc2day : It's free publicity. With all this discussion, people are prone to flood to watch this movie to see what all the fuss is about. I certainly want to see it now. It's a good strategy from the director.
I don't want to debate with what you have to say because to be honest, I didn't read it all. But please, when referring to Islam, don't call it a violent religion as a whole because it isn't. It's true there are people who are violent in the name of Islam, but those are extremists. As a muslim myself, I don't consider those people who are violent and take lives as muslim because they are breaking one of the essential rules of Islam.
By jc2day at 7:38 PM ON 11/04/09
This isn't about "perception" of Islam as a religion. This is about how they ACT.
A fatwa isn't a pretty little piece of doctrine. A fatwa...is a real threat against someone's physical head.
9/11 wasn't imaginary. It was real, too.
Are we misunderstanding something?
I understand that not all Muslims are terrorists. I have had close dialogue with some of my muslim friends, in the past.
What I DON'T understand... is why those friends are VERY QUICK to point out the "misperceptions" that christians have, IMMEDIATELY after a dozen people get blown up!
Uh, I would address the tragedy of a dozen people (or 3000 people) dying, by explaining that that is NOT what I believe...and that those terrorists are dead wrong in their approach.
I would do that first, before I sought to correct the families of the victims on their "misperceptions of Islamic religion."
The way I see it, this "misperceptions" thing is just a way of AVOIDING the truth... the truth that fatwas are counter-productive and serve to advance a fear-based approach to religion.
You should serve God based on love, even voluntary respect...
Should we fear another man killing us?
Should we defend ourselves against another man killing us?
These are questions that need to be answered first.
By mjornir at 7:40 PM ON 11/04/09
rykor-GOD BLESS YOU GREATLY...
I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER...
if i was to be among islamic/muslim ppl on their own ground, i would be dead...
reason:
the first to tell me i cannot observe my Lord God, that i am heathen, the heretic, etc., would get a mouthful of words and rather than coward down, i would rather die than deny Lord God Almighty...
think quick...
which belief structure's "holy book" closely resembles earth's past-present-(and possible) future? it's not the quran, Lord God of Abram continued through Isaac (the sacrifice that established him as father of faith), Lot (yes, Lot, if but one good man is left in the city, i will spare the city for his sake-Lot-Lot, stop what your doing and get out now, Sodom's going Down!!!!)...
Go Figure....
By durable13 at 7:42 PM ON 11/04/09
TimesOnline.com UK - July 27, 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4407115.ece
'A third of Muslim students back killings'
Radicalism and support for sharia is strong in British universities... the study also found that two in five Muslims at university support the incorporation of Islamic sharia codes into British law.
By bj2385 at 7:49 PM ON 11/04/09
Islam is not the one at fault. It's the small percentage of people who claim to be Muslims that misuse the Islamic name to do corrupt things because as we know it's easier to blame something or someone esle for our misbehavior. Islam is a pure religion that teaches people to love and be peaceful. We are so blinded by our media that we can't even look deep into the history of Islam to know what it really teaches. Unfortunatley, our opinions mostly derive from one source THE FUCKEN MEDIA.
By fmorsh at 7:53 PM ON 11/04/09
@jc2day: Oh lord, I would be happy to discuss these topics with you at length but unfortunately I don' have the time. You're bringing pathos into the discussion, which I understand, but some logical also needs to be used. Amongst all you believe, I just want to say this: Individual people create the chaos in the world. Individual people who call them muslims, when they are in fact not, create these sorts of tragedies like 9/11. NOT islam. Even muslims percieve Islam in the wrong light. For example, the terrorists who call themselves muslims don't understand what Islam is. I don't blame the religion for the extremist group that has been festered by the members of said religion. Even though the KKK is a christian group, by no means do I associate Christianity with the KKK.
It's the people who do the actions, not the religion. The core essence of Islam is not based on violence one bit. Extremists have made it to be seemed that way. And people shouldn't be swayed by them. Terrorists are not muslims even though they seem to call themselves that.
By Duck This at 7:54 PM ON 11/04/09
Sounds like a good reason not to watch this movie...I will pass...
By fmorsh at 7:55 PM ON 11/04/09
@bj2385 : I completely agree with you, I couldn't have said it in any better way. Without the profanity maybe, but still. haha
By Khan at 7:58 PM ON 11/04/09
@jc2day
my friend you just made me an extremist and all i asked you was to go and spend some time watching some videos of "Dr Zakir Naik" and his answers to many misconceptions of non-muslims.
i found it very funny
but dont worry i am just a regular guy not a scholar or imam who will issue a fatwa on this haha
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@rykor
either you are bs'ing or either that imam was fake. either way your comment on such topic does not help.
please get your facts straight. there are mentions in the Quran (the book) to kill infidels but all those reference need to be read in the right context (as many friends mentioned above)
your answer is @
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/jihad/kill_the_infidels.asp
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@tryingtounderstand
(i dont know what are you trying to understand here if you dont even know how someone corrects his/her perception)
first know how to correct your perceptions about something, i am sure about one thing though, an extremist muslim can not correct your perception, he can kill you or threaten you but not change your perception, so my dear friend its something that you have to work on yourself :)
as far as your research is concern, yes you have to do some research, yes you can do surveys and polls if you want but with internet your hard work is only limited to GOOGLING more info about Islam, everything is at your fingertip :)
so if you really want to understand this, THIS REQUIRE VERY PATIENCE MY FRIEND, but one thing i have known for all these years that people who do not want to understand will never understand even they are given fact after fact
so the least you can do, please go and watch Dr Zakir Naik videos (that's where you can start your research and then from there I am sure you will want to explore Islam more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvHHYrdiXHE
Go and watch, there are 24 parts i believe and please remember, patience is the key
may God give you understanding of the right path
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Note to all: im not here to convince anyone here how good islam is or how bad non-believers are. please dont take anything personal, its only a comment, and i am sure no Imam or Islamic scholar will ever visit a site with information about movies and music (my muslim friends will know what i am talking about), so if even a muslim post a comment please dont consider it a fatwa or something, its just a friendly conversation so please dont start trashing and bashing each other :)
By thinkaboutit at 8:01 PM ON 11/04/09
This guy could have and should have put the Kaa'ba in the movie being destroyed. The Muslim religion has a fatwa on every nonbeliever's head anyways. They are to kill any nonbelievers or make them into believers. The real reasons that the true Christians don't get upset when movies show the Christians places getting blown up are.
1 Jesus set up His kingdom/Temple in us. His temple will be with us no matter what.
2. So all the man made Christian places can disappear because they are manmade not God made.
My God the one true living God (Jesus) does not lour people into heaven with 77 virgin girls. He gave us all a free will. So you can believe in whatever you what and answer to no man but Him for it. But the Islam/Muslim religion makes men answer to men for their belief or lack of belief.
Just as a side note: Put a dead pig on the grave of an Islam/Muslim man, and see what other Islam/Muslim men say will or will not happen.
By lakerfan at 8:02 PM ON 11/04/09
Hey I just had to say something here that many of my Christian and Muslim friends may have missed.
Catholics and Protestants alike DO worship ONE God, believe in the Holy Trinity, the forgiveness of sins, and eternal life (the ultimate gift of salvtion, yes?).
Where I think the Protestants are missing it is that they believe Catholics WORSHIP statutes. This is a common misconception among Protestants (I am one) and I would really encourage open dialogue to discover what we have in common with one another and to grow in our faith, rather than to point out differences that divide.
For my Muslim friends, I understand what you hold is very near and dear to your heart and you appreciate the fact for whatever reason this director did not depict a scene in his movie, you are in fact appreciative.
For Christians (Protestants and Catholics alike), it is a bit disheartening to a degree that it appears our faith continually comes under fire. But alas, it was prophesied this would indeed be the case in the last days.
By Paco Hell at 8:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Well if Mecca ain't gonna be nuked, then_fuck this piece_of_shit movie
By Obaid at 8:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Total Verses : 5
Revealed At : MAKKA
Verse:001
Dr. Mohsin : Have you (O Muhammad (SAW)) not seen how your Lord dealt with the Owners of the Elephant? [The elephant army which came from Yemen under the command of Abrahah Al-Ashram intending to destroy the Ka'bah at Makkah].
Pickthal : Hast thou not observed how thy Lord dealt with the owners of the Elephant?
Yusuf Ali : Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the Companions of the Elephant?
Verse:002
Dr. Mohsin : Did He not make their plot go astray?
Pickthal : Did He not bring their stratagem to naught,
Yusuf Ali : Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray?
Verse:003
Dr. Mohsin : And He sent against them birds, in flocks,
Pickthal : And send against them swarms of flying creatures,
Yusuf Ali : And He sent against them flights of Birds,
Verse:004
Dr. Mohsin : Striking them with stones of Sijjîl (baked clay).
Pickthal : Which pelted them with stones of baked clay,
Yusuf Ali : Striking them with stones of baked clay.
Verse:005
Dr. Mohsin : And He made them like (an empty field of) stalks (of which the corn has been eaten up by cattle).[]
Pickthal : And made them like green crops devoured (by cattle)?
Yusuf Ali : Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.
By jaz at 8:16 PM ON 11/04/09
for all the reasons cited in the all the foregoing comments, i think everybody should boycot this film.
By ZUPEL at 8:21 PM ON 11/04/09
So it is OK for Emmerich to insult other religions but not Islam?
Boycott this movie.
I will not see this movie.
Also, I see where my previous remark was butchered by the editor, and consonants were removed. I checked if before I sent it. Was the purpose to make my comments look idiotic?
Roland Emmerich is a coward.
By WAKEUPCALL at 8:25 PM ON 11/04/09
Just a heads up to all ignorant of the meaning of the word fatwa, including the director himself.
Fatwa is a temporary law against Islamic law under specific circumstances. Example: After 9/11, a fatwa came stating that a muslim woman can take her veil off if she feels threatened in the USA.
As a muslim, I respect all prophets and all holy books. It disgusts me when there is any sort of profanity in movies/media/etc against Prophet Mohammed or Jesus. Or any religions in general. In Islam, we are not to ridicule/put face/image/picture on any prophet (Jesus included). We have too much respect to do so.
As christians, you all should do the same instead of spending time critisizing how we respect our religion. For example, even though it makes an interesting story, even Evan Almighty showing God as a person is quite offending since God has qualtiies beyond humanness.It is degrading and disrespectful of God.
If you do not feel the same way, you do not respect your religion enough. So you are the problem. not people respecting their religion.
By Still at 8:27 PM ON 11/04/09
Reading all these you 'people' (just a word for the creatures call thierselves to feel kind of centered for they're at a very low levels of consciousness at the current timeline of the universe) write.. Let me remind you of a saying of Buddha: 'What we think we become'. Be careful, and don't get stucked in mind games for a while. Just be silent, and be an observer. God (as you like calling it) is when you are 'not'. And life is what you make of it. Well, a true sanitarium so far, something the people of future will not even laugh at.
By WystenDraco at 8:28 PM ON 11/04/09
If I had my way, the Kaaba would be deleted from the film completely, not even put on DVD special features. That way you don't anger the muslims and you don't bend over backwards for them either. Personally though, if I were in the White House and that Supreme Ayotallah Komeini jerk issued a Fatwa against a filmmaker for for perceived blasphemy, resulting in the murder of that American, I would have him made an example of, mind his own business, or die.
By TOE at 8:28 PM ON 11/04/09
HEY LISTEN U F***KS IF YOU CARED ABOUT UR RELIGION UR POPE OR OTHER RELIGIOUS SCHOLARS WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM NOT TO PUT THEM IN THE FILM BUT WHO CARES... THEY JUST WANT MONEY. WE REALY CARE ABOUT OUR RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY.
By RGH at 8:33 PM ON 11/04/09
Everyone says its just a few extremest, like the religious leader of Iran, the leading imans of Iraq and Afghanistan, hhmmm. All of these people condemend Rushdi. Entire freaking countries condemend the man and would likely condem this man as well. WAKE UP, it is not the extremest but the majority of the mid-east leadership. Sure Egypt stays calm, but it is not the minority. However he is still a wuss, he may not "belive in organized religion" but he belives in bullies and that is not what a religion should be about. Are there peaceful Muslims, sure, but they need to take back thier religion. It's time for thier own reframation.
By retards at 8:33 PM ON 11/04/09
......America, home of the ignorant and stupid
By alloyou at 8:33 PM ON 11/04/09
to thinkaboutit
why dont you think about it ..as a christian you go throuhg 77 or more women in your life anyway sinner to the end and then you ask your jesus to forgive you and PUFF it is all gone...wow strong base of true religion...ohh i am sorry you can ask your priest too
By hello_stranger at 8:33 PM ON 11/04/09
In the name of Allah the most beneficent and the most merciful.
May Allah/God Forgive you and all of the ignorant comments in this blog. I'm a Muslim, & Its true tht its not easy to live in today's world with so much fitna around you, but my dear brothers & sisters, PLS don't judge the book from its cover. Relax for a min, take ur time, be comfortable and think . . what is this life? what's the purpose of me being on this earth? Who created this "SOUL"? what are we without Soul? …
Read & understand the line below.
Can there be any doubt about God, the Creator of the heavens and the earth?...” (Quran 14:10)
One might ask, ‘if belief in God is natural, then why do some people lack this belief?’ The answer is simple. Every human being has an innate belief in a Creator, but this belief is not a result of learning or personal deductive thinking. With the passage of time, outside influences effect this innate belief and confuse the person. So, one’s environment and upbringing veil the primordial nature from the truth. The Prophet of Islam, may God praise all, said: “Every child is born in a state of fitrah (a natural belief in God), then his parents make him a Jew, a Christian, or a Magian.” (Saheeh Muslim) Often these veils are lifted when a human being is faced with a spiritual crisis and left helpless and vulnerable. PLS dont forget the smartest of all is the one who thinks of his death all the time" there's no guarantee that you live immortal in this earth.
We are not going to take our wealth or our belongings when we die, ONLY ur knowledge and ur good deeds...
my dear brothers and sisters Billions of ppl who came before us n whose going to come after us has/had a purpose, has a job to complete before death comes to you. it is that to please our god and do the right things that teaches in the Quran and the Sunnah. NO body is Perfect in this world. Allah is forgiver of all sins. if you can take ur time to think of ur rabb/allah/god believe him from ur heart/soul and obey the teachings of his messenger, he'l def shower is mercy upon you. I respect all the religions.
this movie: I have no comments. its a waste of ur time.
PLS dont deny the truth. we really dont have enough time. Islam doesnt force anyone to convert. Its Allah's blessings and his call on you.
By Still at 8:37 PM ON 11/04/09
Reading all these you 'people' (just a word for the creatures to call theirselves to feel kind of centered for they're at very low levels of consciousness at the current timeline of the universe) write.. Let me remind you of a saying of Buddha: What we think we become. Be careful, and don't get stucked in mind games for a while. Just be silent, and be an observer. God (as you like calling it) is when you are 'not'. And life is what you make of it. A true sanitarium so far, something the people of future will not even laugh at.
Peace.
By jaz at 8:37 PM ON 11/04/09
hitler claims to be a christian. kkk members may claim that they are christians. but they are not. because being a christian is to love your neighbor.
that being said, these people were not branded as christian terrorists because the evil things they did, they did not do for their claimed religion. the muslim terrorists seeks to kill in the name of their religion. that is the difference.
emirich, by succumbing to the threat of a fatwa, just surrendered and sold his soul to the devil.
i hope there's still redemption for you sir.
By atozmom at 8:37 PM ON 11/04/09
Anti-Christian not anti-"organized religion".
By GO_HELP_YOURSELF at 8:41 PM ON 11/04/09
HAHAHAHA you people are really ignorant!
Listen to yourselves your mad because a religious icon wasn't blown up??? It just shows your ignorance, I think you Americans (And I'm referring to the ignorant Americans) have destroyed enough things in this world....and really took yourselves down with it LMAO
Go get educated and help the world for better. Your country is falling apart from the inside and can no longer be stopped, and the world is leaving you behind.
I studied world religions in University (that's the big school you go to after you graduate from high school) and Islam is the most sensible and peaceful religion, they are never to cast the first stone, however do believe in defending themselves and there beliefs aka not having there most iconic site up blown up for a movie. Maybe if you stopped watching movies and read more, you'd understand a lot more. Instead of basing an entire religion of over 1 BILLION people and the fast growing religion in the world, over some idiots who flew a plane into a building.... It would be like saying every catholic is a pedophile!
By WAKEUPCALL at 8:46 PM ON 11/04/09
Jaz-
Just a heads up jaz, the KKK did most of their hate crimes through the name of God and religion. They even went to the degree of burning people on giant crosses.... Also, Hitler managed to twist religion to fit his idea of creating 'room' for the race he was leading. At the time of this, he believed he was following religion. So, maybe, if logic clicks, you might realize that these 'muslim' terrorists are not really muslim. Just as how you say Hitler and the KKK are not christians.
By cslide at 8:49 PM ON 11/04/09
I think the guy's got balls for just coming out and admitting he's afraid. Really.
By Vic at 8:53 PM ON 11/04/09
Why is it that we have to always respect Islam? Not showing pictures of Mohamed etc. If we are living with that fear then the terrorists have won. I can assure you, no one is going to get killed over that cube thing being equally destroyed in a movie. It is just a movie. Our soldiers have given their lives so that we are afforded creative freedom. Muslims have to learn to relax about their religion and not take everything as an offense. And if they are offended so what, I am no coward, I am an American. It is better to die standing up for what is right then to die a coward. But, then again, I am just an infidel. What do I know? (Our American Christian family has lived in Saudi Arabia for 20+ years).
By jaz at 8:56 PM ON 11/04/09
maybe they're not muslims, but who am i to say that? i'm not an expert on muslims. but when it is a muslim scholar or the ayatolah that says you get 70 virgins if you kill a christian, you get to think that the terrorists who follow these teachings must be muslims. anyway, while other religions (not necessarily christianity) teach of peace on earth and bliss in heaven, muslim scholars teach of violence on earth and being horny in heaven (70 virgins? looks like a punishment to the virgins?)
By Alz at 8:57 PM ON 11/04/09
Believe me those that think that only the devout muslims would go after this man, are WRONG. EVERY one of the billion would go after him and every cinema in the West would be taken down, because even the so-called modernists won't be able to handle seeing that. Christians sound like little kids, OMG how come he does that to us and not to them?? Whos fault is that if you just sit on ur ass letting stuff like that happen, at least muslims do something if they dont like something.
If you dont want muslims hating on you, then leave them and their religion and their sites alone, dont sook when you offend their religion and ask why they hate you.
By WAKEUPCALL at 9:01 PM ON 11/04/09
Jaz-
See, in your righting it is obvious that you do not know anything of the muslim religion AT ALL. For starts, it is believed that in heaven, there will be people born, in heaven, that are there to kind of serve the people that were tested on earth. It is not that they will recieve 70 virgins so they can go on a sex rampage, and the number isn't even 70 anyways. It is more like 5...and they aren't there for sexual pleasure, that is a common mistake.
Also, if you knew more about the religion you would realize it, Islam is a religion based on peace. It does not promote violence whatsoever.
By ABq at 9:09 PM ON 11/04/09
He is scared of the muslims, because he know they the radical hate and is afraid of loosing his live. And Christians won't kill him...
By WithaL at 9:18 PM ON 11/04/09
PACO HELL
I'm guessing you didn't finish high school.....
Annnnd why are you up so late do you have to marry your sister tomorrow??? F.uckin hill billy lol!
By Paco Hell at 9:20 PM ON 11/04/09
WithaL, I need a new coat hanger for the hallway. Does your nose hook far enough?
lol... :D
By jaz at 9:29 PM ON 11/04/09
thanks for the headsup WAKEUPCALL. may i just ask. why call them virgins if their purpose is to serve? shouldn't they be called servants, slaves, workers, laborers...? besides why would muslims aspire to be served in heaven? i know jesus taught his apostles that if they want to be on top they have to be a servant to all. i think that is also the essence of true leadership. if our leaders just serve us and not treat us as their servants, we'll have good governance.
at any rate, agree that emmerich should not have depicted a destruction of religious sites. that is offensive. maybe he should have distroyed other landmarks like the madison square garden, the great wall of china, the buckingham palace, opera house in sydney or the golden gate bridge. but not religious sites.
by doing what hie did and explaining that he was afraid of a fatwa, that is sending the wrong message to terrorist.
By JUJUBABE at 9:33 PM ON 11/04/09
OBVIOUSLY, he feels it's okay to debase Christian symbols, but not Muslim symbols. That just shows what this world is coming to, an end. For this reason, I will be careful to not see the movie. Obviously he has no respect for Christianity at all.
By WithaL at 9:35 PM ON 11/04/09
Paco Hell,
I didn't know they equipped trailers homes with coat hangers...... Better pull out some quarters and pay the internet cafe your at... because I know you can't afford a computer, you probably lost your job 4 months ago at the local factory
By WithaL at 9:37 PM ON 11/04/09
JUJUBABE
That should be the correct reponse to all this
Well said!!!
By WAKEUPCALL at 9:47 PM ON 11/04/09
jaz-
They are called virgins because that is what they are. They are pure and untouched and completely innocent. It is more tribal of a term than it is part of the religion though. In the actual book, they are mentioned as servants, but people tend to call them virgins because , tribely, it is believed to be better to have a virgin than a not virgin.
In heaven, everything is easy going and full of bliss. It is not that they aspire to be served in heaven, it is a perk of heaven, in so many words. Jesus taught his apostles to serve on earth. There is no wrong with being served in the afterlife.
Yes, I agree with you on that completely. The director totally went the wrong way by attacking any religion period. He should have just attacked all the sites you mentioned.
By Paco Hell at 9:52 PM ON 11/04/09
WithaL, so does your nose hook far enough?
If not, I may have to shop for a longer model. With a towel on it's head.
lol... :D
By Jay at 9:57 PM ON 11/04/09
Here is a great site of the so-called "religion of peace."
It is: www.thereligionofpeace.com
It is my opinion that ALL MUSLIMS that speak out in defense of Islam either lie, mislead, or distract people about the bigoted religion of Islam.
By MJ at 10:03 PM ON 11/04/09
To everyone that was totally disrespectful and ignorant,
You are representing uneducated, closed minded group of people of know nothing about ISLAM ( YES the religion of Peace). Fatwa means nothing like what you think and the real muslims are the ones who love nothing but peace, and the good for everyone. It is sad that the actions of some ignorants who have nothing to do with islam actually gave the WRONG IMAGE ABOUT THE RELIGION OF PEACE>
People you need to educate yourself about any topic or religion before you talk about it in order to be convincing.
OPEN UP YOUR EYES, BRAINS, and think before saying any thing.
By WAKEUPCALL at 10:06 PM ON 11/04/09
Jay-
An even better website would be
islamicity.com
Send any legit questions there. A website you presented can be made about any religion in the entire universe. The website you gave shows crime that happens, and the person just happens to be muslim. This can be taken from any religion. Also, your website takes the religion, and twists it until it is no longer islam. Maybe you should go somewhere more reliable to do your reading.
By Jay at 10:08 PM ON 11/04/09
Europe is going down the toilet because of Islam.
"Islam is a peaceful religion and we'll kill anyone to prove it!"
By al88 at 10:15 PM ON 11/04/09
Wow you prople are the most ignorant uneducated people ever right when some body mentions islam or muslims you prople automatically judge all islams as terriosts and stupid please pick up a book and know what your talking about before you judge a whole religion. btw the islamic religion just doesnt like the idea of one of thier most holy sites being destroyed christians and jews should be pretty pissed off about seeing their holy places being destroyed. i would
By Paco Hell at 10:16 PM ON 11/04/09
What's the matter, WithaL?
Did somebody already cover your nose with a coat?
lol...
By the D at 10:20 PM ON 11/04/09
Look at the Christian religion!! If Muslims were like Christians, and allow Human Beings to tamper with GODS work, then we'd have like aLOT of sub-Islams. You have Protestants, Baptists, etc.. The Jews aren't as bad, atleast they respect they're religion.
Christianity is a failed relgion because of human intervention, and now you want to make all the other religions look bad. Read your Bibles, you'll see WAY more violence than mentioned in the Quran..WAAAYYYY MORREE!!!
By Seymour at 10:38 PM ON 11/04/09
Dear Friends,
I think he did absolutely right thing. I appreciate it. And, it is another lesson to learn, people.
By tammy at 10:40 PM ON 11/04/09
ric 14 dude ur wrong ur talking about al-queda and they even aint in islam man! sunni and shittes dude tehy dnt give a damn im muslim and i dnt give a damn if he blew it up and as for him to say that it wasn't an important thing it was... he was just to scared to get that fatwa thingy on his forehead! he shoudl consider it a tattoo
By RyanM at 10:44 PM ON 11/04/09
So sad.
Let's not print the Danish cartoons either... someone's feelings might get hurt.
If no one stands up for freedom of expression it will disappear just like all of those other landmarks.
By Dev at 10:52 PM ON 11/04/09
yeah! Islam is like that. Islam is a timid religion. It has been suffering from inferiority complex. If it is shown that Kabba is destroying Islam people will start to think that west is mocking their religion.
Very disgusting religion
By someone at 11:03 PM ON 11/04/09
they're just buildings anyway...they really dont mean anything
By manowar5000 at 11:04 PM ON 11/04/09
Congratulations ! You have all fallen for this propaganda to make you hate Islam. Learn to think and ask yourselves WHY they put certain things in the news while leaving out others (like Israels nuclear weapons and the fact that Israel refuses inspections)
TIme for another WAR in IRAN!!
By islam at 11:07 PM ON 11/04/09
Where r u people getting all this information from about islam? Did u even know the basics of islam? You people slander my religion without a slight understanding of it! And where in world did this stuid movie bring in how women are treated in islam. Im a WOMEN IN ISALM and TREATED with amost RESPECT and not looked down upon for being a female. You are angered by the fact that we do not show our bodies with bikins or shirts with our breast sticking out. Is that wat ur religion tells u? that fornicating on televsion is better than covering up? If it was the mans choose for any religion of women it will be let them run around naked! We are honored to were men will look down to the floor as not to disgrace us by sexual desires of the mans wandering eyes. Yes it was not right but it does not give u the right to judge the islam all together. You all perach ur religion yet u know onthing about it. And even if ur religion is right way to show it swearing and slandering, what RESPECT you people have!! Im surpised you ppl look down upon us yet u dont insult the atheists! Nice way to show ur religion! Back talking every muslim on this posting yet u couldnt have ur selfs talking back to the atheists! Do u make any sense. AND ask urselfs this, wasn't the jewish ppl who killed Jesus! Why r u ppl slandering islam! Protecting the Jews from the crimes they did at war or wat the army did to the Iraq ppl for some heartless men the hijacked a plane. How ignorant, did u forget what Americas did to every country it went after. Saying we gave them aid after the atomic bomb, well that doesnt bring back the lives of millions it took! U ppl r ignorant and selfish human beings! Go open a book then maybe u will at least have a logical answer to give me. Instead of cusing! Kids can see this like myself!!!!!!!
By ntbhlawds at 11:09 PM ON 11/04/09
Whoever wrote this article doesn't explain what a fatwa actually is. And the director should NOT be scared of a "fatwa."
Why do we have to label all Muslims as terrorists? Read any holy book and you'll find verses preaching killing. Wars were essential in historis times. It's how you survived because fueds were natural.
Yeah, there are extremists in Islam, just like christianity and judaism. Just because the media rides muslim extremists' nuts everybody only labels them as terrorists.
What about organized terrorism. Israel slaughtering 1400 people in 21 days, or the US killing hundreds of thousands of people in the past 8 years. Or dropping the a-bomb and wiping out the whole of 500,000 people within seconds.
You don't call that terrorism? You don't call that cold blooded murder?
The media tells you things, you take it in and make opinions with no clear picture. Take second to step back and look at things with open eyes.
You'll stop hating muslims, and start hating murder, terror, the loss of innocent peoples' lives.
Islam IS a religion of peace. So is christiantiy, so is judaism.
By Hemperor at 11:09 PM ON 11/04/09
I rather pay to see pigeons screw than pay to watch this farce of a movie..Who is this guy anway?
By jembut_ray at 11:09 PM ON 11/04/09
Where is the Jewish Wailing wall ??? Left that one out of the film also, but the article forgot to mention that... Wonder why ?
Zionist media - that's why
By People at 11:10 PM ON 11/04/09
you all are fu@$*$ idiots. You all are ignorant and don't know anything about religion. And by the way Islam is the religion of peace and always will be. Why do you think it is the fastest growing religion.
By joebob at 11:10 PM ON 11/04/09
Can't blame him really. He destroys that even virtually, he's got the entire radical muslim world on him and throwing death threats out at him. Look what happened to Salmon Rushdie. He had to go into hiding for something like 25 years for Satanic Verses?
It's pretty sad really, and more than anything else, it speaks extremely poorly of the Islamic world that people change scripts because they feel threatened of retaliation.
By lensmanct at 11:12 PM ON 11/04/09
F#ck the muslims! It's a shame that Bush didn't nuke all of them. Obama probably told this guy not to offend them, but everyone else was fair game.
By islam at 11:12 PM ON 11/04/09
Where r u people getting all this information from about islam? Did u even know the basics of islam? You people slander my religion without a slight understanding of it! And where in world did this stuid movie bring in how women are treated in islam. Im a WOMEN IN ISALM and TREATED with amost RESPECT and not looked down upon for being a female. You are angered by the fact that we do not show our bodies with bikins or shirts with our breast sticking out. Is that wat ur religion tells u? that fornicating on televsion is better than covering up? If it was the mans choose for any religion of women it will be let them run around naked! We are honored to were men will look down to the floor as not to disgrace us by sexual desires of the mans wandering eyes. Yes it was not right but it does not give u the right to judge the islam all together. You all perach ur religion yet u know onthing about it. And even if ur religion is right way to show it swearing and slandering, what RESPECT you people have!! Im surpised you ppl look down upon us yet u dont insult the atheists! Nice way to show ur religion! Back talking every muslim on this posting yet u couldnt have ur selfs talking back to the atheists! Do u make any sense. AND ask urselfs this, wasn't the jewish ppl who killed Jesus! Why r u ppl slandering islam! Protecting the Jews from the crimes they did at war or wat the army did to the Iraq ppl for some heartless men the hijacked a plane. How ignorant, did u forget what Americas did to every country it went after. Saying we gave them aid after the atomic bomb, well that doesnt bring back the lives of millions it took! U ppl r ignorant and selfish human beings! Go open a book then maybe u will at least have a logical answer to give me. Instead of cusing! Kids can see those disgusting comments!!!!!
By Rick Kirby at 11:18 PM ON 11/04/09
Oh, no! Let's all tiptoe around the Muslims because they might get mad. What are they mad about today? It's so hard to keep track. Funny how we all live in fear of the "religion of peace."
By the people at 11:21 PM ON 11/04/09
Look the guy who wrote Setanic versus deserves it. How is he about to write false s#%^ about islam. It is not right.
By Seymour at 11:25 PM ON 11/04/09
Dear Friends,
Religions are to bring peace to the world, not war. Please stop insulting each other and try to be respectful to each others religion. If the director decides to destroy the Christian symbols, then it is not muslims fault, and that is his decision not to touch the Kabe. It would be great if he didnt touch the churches as well but you all, instead of fighting here, should start respecting each other and live in peace. The movie doesnt change anything, and i am a muslim who knows Christianity more than most of Christians, please, there is no need to speak here. Nothing is gonna change. So, think and respect. Everybody is responsible for himself / herself. My respect to everybody...
May Allah bless you all regardless religion, race, gender and status...
By Abdul Rahman at 11:28 PM ON 11/04/09
What do you call a person (Muslim) who has higher formal degrees in science and engineering but still thinks that on a special day (Eid-ul-Adha), in the name of a special entity (Allah) who he/she loves, admire, look up to, cut the neck of a goat or caw and recites Allah-Hu-Akbar and then feel good about it?
These same Muslims are aware of the fact that animal feel pain too.
These same Muslims are aware of the fact that vegetable is much better for health than meat items.
These same Muslims know that even criminals keeps their bad deeds separate from their loved one.
[color=#FF0000][size=150]
[b]Wouldn't it have been better if they had said:[/b][/size][/color]
Oh, My dear Allah, despite of the fact that I know animal feel pain, I, 364 days of the 365 days, have been killing and eating goats and caws for my own sake, [color=#FF0000][b]for my own id, that is my weakness, my shortcomings[/b][/color] but today, just for one day, at least for one day only, on a special day, I will do a good act because you are Al-Rahman, and Al-Raheem, I will not kill this goat that is lying on the ground with legs tied. I can't do this barbaric act in your name who I love, admire and look up to. Then cut the rope from the legs of the goat, slap on the goat. Goat gets up and runs away. Then everyone who were watching clap and shout, Allah-Hu-Akbar, Allah Hu-Akbar, Al-Rahman-o', Al-Raheemo'.
[b]Wouldn't that be a sight worth watching?[/b]
[size=150][color=#0000FF][b]But Muslims would continue to justify this act even after pointing out these logics.[/b][/color][/size]
I called these people, mentally sick.
I condemn them, not only for their action [color=#FF0000][size=150][b]but more so for their inability to see injustice, wrongness in this act.[/b][/size] [/color]Brains Memetic problem, an acquired disorder.
Muslims, who deny this powerful logic, have lost their soul, metaphorically speaking.
What is soul anyway?
The only rational definition of this commonly known term "soul" is:
Soul is the part of the brain that is capable of collecting relevant data, process justly, and come up with the distinction between true and false, good and bad, right and wrong, justice and injustice.
Muslims have lost this part of the brain, soul.
[color=#FF0000][b]I condemn their thought and action. I condemn Islam and Muslim.[/b][/color]
By Melody at 11:30 PM ON 11/04/09
He's a bigoted coward, but at least he's honest about it.
By tedrices at 11:33 PM ON 11/04/09
Come on. He has wussed out. Make the movie, send your message, for crying out loud. Don't cater to the criminals and let yourself be bullied. This act has nullified the meaningfulness of the movie. It's as bad as selling out. No, it is selling out.
By Nick at 11:33 PM ON 11/04/09
He's not a wuss.
He's a pussy.
By Venus at 11:36 PM ON 11/04/09
Christian extermists are
insane - christians
idiotic -christians
foolish - christians
uneducated - christians
fanatical - christians
hateful -christians
closed-minded -christians
yeap it falls on the christian extermists, who has cause death and destruction since their false messiah was killed by the pharisses.. and yet they still worship israel as a GOD.
pathic
plus its a bloody movie.. wow ... makes people wonder why christians are
insane
idiotic
foolish
uneducated
fanatical
hateful
closed-minded
By chris d at 11:38 PM ON 11/04/09
Well I guess the Islams never saw Team America or there would have been a serious fatwa after that one. Durka durka...
By Axel VanJovi at 11:40 PM ON 11/04/09
Will Scientology be taking a hit? Or would Tom Cruise sue everyone and have the studio destroyed?
By w_nadeem89@yahoo.com at 11:42 PM ON 11/04/09
i love this! look at all the pissed off christains! haaaaa!
By trock at 11:42 PM ON 11/04/09
Another movie I will not see because of the hypocrisy...
You are a coward!
By medithcc at 11:43 PM ON 11/04/09
i'm just going to watch the movie for pure entertainment and not get into a religious or philosophical debate.
By me at 11:44 PM ON 11/04/09
Ya, see unlike many of you bastards here, who hold no respect for your own damn beliefs, seeing a crucial part of my religion is unacceptable. And mind you suicide bombers is not exclusive to Muslims, but of course you ignorant fu$ks wouldn't know that, oh well you'll be the one flipping my burgers. Can you say "next window please? "
By azim at 11:45 PM ON 11/04/09
By Malsi at 11:46 PM ON 11/04/09
Isn't Islam the religion of Peace? What is peace for them?
By Fyruzs at 11:46 PM ON 11/04/09
I never have find and I'm definately sure that there is no specific date was set for the JUDGEMENT DATE in Al-Quran...Al-Quran only tells us about how the JUDGEMENT DAY will be...NOT When is exactly is going to happen...It's Allah SWT decision to decide...
I think the person that believe AL-QURAN has stated 2012 as the JUDGEMENT DAY is totally cluless about ISLAM & AL-QURAN...So, u know you should at least read before commenting or saying...
This is what we call:
P/s: Don't judge the book by it's cover
By NJReef at 11:48 PM ON 11/04/09
All you ignorant FOOLS that are hating on muslims and cursing them out... You will burn in hell...Yes you will burn in hell. I'll be smiling at you from heaven though =]. Remember Allah sees everything. Try to enjoy your shitty ignorant lives while you are on Earth... won't be too long. Enjoy Hell for Eternity!
By giselle at 11:50 PM ON 11/04/09
sorry to hurt the people who hate in us (muslims) 1st let me say get ur facts straight then talk and secondly i love saying this umm its the worlds top growing religion ..wow that felt good .peace.xoxoxoxox mwaaaa
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By D at 11:50 PM ON 11/04/09
What a farce. You bow at the feet of the muslims because of fear. You have no knowledge of respect.
By Azim at 11:53 PM ON 11/04/09
By Tresoka at 11:55 PM ON 11/04/09
Loser! I can't believe he wimped out! I'm sick of everybody catering to Muslims! If you believe in GOD, you might as well believe in the Easter bunny, Santa Clause, and the tooth fairy! OMG! What century do we live in again? Cave man times! They aren't productive members of society, so they use their religion to excuse away their laziness & ignorance! Bring it on Muslims that live under rocks!
By shariquemakani at 11:56 PM ON 11/04/09
ok i am going to tell some of you idoits what fatwaa mean it means sing or bad deed
By jahid at 11:57 PM ON 11/04/09
the Kaaba will not be destroyed until judgement day which is not 2012 the antichrist dajjal and other signs have not been revealed for this to be judgement day. That being said it would not make sense for the Kaaba to be destroyed, Islam says the holy place of Kaaba will never be destroyed until that day so i think this goes perfect with the movie because it makes the movie seem more of a tradgedy of 2012 rather then the end of the world if you know what i mean. Do your own research of Islam and you will know. Muslims understand the world and why we're put here. The people that judge and are ignorant have no idea who they are or why there here, I suggest you really look at your self and your life take care bye
By Abdul Awal at 12:01 AM ON 11/05/09
It means two things: in one side Muslims do not accept, 'people can do whatever they think', negative side seems to be that they do not accept typical independence in the name of art/culture. Finally it is proved, this is a miracle director could not be able to demolish the ‘Kaaba’. Whatever the explosive? Fatwa or anything you think.
By Azim at 12:01 AM ON 11/05/09
ALLAH (GOD) IS THE ONE THAT PROTECTS THE KAABA FORM EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. THEIR IS NOTHING THAT CAN HARM IT. THE KAABA DOESN'T NEED ANY ARMY IT HAS ALLAH TO PROTECT IT. WE ALL HAVE ALLAH IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM THE RIGHT WAY. SO STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT ISLAM AND DON'T WAIST YOUR TIME IN TRYING TO THINK OF DESTROYING THE KAABA CAUSE ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WATCH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT ISLAM BECAUSE YOU ARE DISRESPECTING YOUR ALLAH TOO. OR HE WILL PUT A FATWA ON YOU. NOW YOU SHOULD BE AFRAID OF ALLAH NOT THE ARABS
By Tresoka at 12:05 AM ON 11/05/09
Nobody cares about your Fat-mom(fatma) or your Kabob(Kaaba)! Take your bs religion with the rest of them to the bottom of the ocean! Religions put good people against one another, and for what? Death? Yes! Religion accounts for more death on the earth that ANY OTHER THING! Keep believing in witch craft, and you will continue to run several centuries behind! WAKE UP! Religion is bogus, and for the scared & weak!
By The Way at 12:06 AM ON 11/05/09
Money talks.
BOYCOTT 2012
Pass it on.
By DEADENDS at 12:07 AM ON 11/05/09
I am a scientist to the core, though I have done no science. You know there exists something called "reverse visions of future events". This is such a vision. What I mean is everything including Kaaba might be destroyed, literally but Christianity and its symbols would remain intact. In fact if the Director has taken a clue from the Mayan calendar, he ought to know that "threasds of thought" are not for human interpretation. Better to say"death of religion" irrespective of which religion it's. Christianity would survive not because it's scientific but because Jesus is a scientist. I am not talking about scientology. To be short you need not wait till 2012 to see this. It will happen anytime sooner.
By nia at 12:08 AM ON 11/05/09
What kind of person that will not defend their own religion? I will defend mine. Definitely!
If all of you are angry with that guy, why are you saying all the bad things about Islam? All of you are just a victim of a propaganda.
You fall to that propaganda and ignore all the facts.
Do you really understand Islam? Dont just simply believe everything that the others told you, seek for the truth by yourself..and yes, Islam is a religion of peace..
By nisa at 12:10 AM ON 11/05/09
you can't destroy the Ka'ba people, even in a movie, it'll never be destroyed cause God will raise it when That Day comes which won't be in 2012 by the way. Plus Jesus Peace Be upon him isn't dead either, God raised him into the Heavens alive and he'll be sent back to earth. The Ka'ba will be raised into the Heavens where an identical copy lies straight above it in the sky and protection of the truth is in His Hands even if it is shown doesn't mean it's gonna happen, so do what you want and show what you want but woe be unto us who has woken us from our sleep?
By Really? at 12:14 AM ON 11/05/09
Islam that wasn't demonized or insulted for once it's not okay by everyone. Why? b/c Bush succeeded at his agenda to brainwash the world against Muslims and Islam. I just wonder what it would be like if Jews didn't control the world.
By Tresoka at 12:15 AM ON 11/05/09
Blah, blah, blah.......Religion is for the person who needs to be told what to do, and the person who needs to be supervised. REAL superior humans are intelligent enough to realize that religion was established to give humans hope under oppressive forces, and to instill fear into the minds of the less fortunate ones on this planet that don't come from wealth. Be good & do good because it is the right thing to do, not out of fear of the boogie-man! THAT will make you feel good! Muslims, SOME if not most of you are intelligent. USE YOUR BRAIN! GOD only makes sense if he's extra-terrestrial which he might be. If not, he's just like Santa! BS!
By sonia muslim at 12:17 AM ON 11/05/09
if islam wasnt the true one and only religion then it woulda been the first thing that got destroyed in the movie
By soki at 12:17 AM ON 11/05/09
He has no problem destroying churches/christians symbols because christians or jews nowdays dont care about their religion anymore especially in USA
By Really? at 12:20 AM ON 11/05/09
When it comes to Muslims, there are ignorant idiots out there saying that immigration should've been restricted in the first place. Well, what about the Mexicans who are slowly creeping to the top of the chain from within? What about all the orientals? what about the beloved dancing corrupted indian hindus?
It's so nice to know that such a great distinction is made against Muslims only. Muslims are the only people in the world that are not tolerated by Americans. Why? b/c people are so jealous of their looks, food, culture, and most importantly their religious beliefs. They'll never be better than Muslims so they'll bash on them.
I guess high school bullying never ends.
By really? at 12:25 AM ON 11/05/09
I guess one thing is true: atheists will burn in hell for not acknowledging they were created by a superior force. They are blinded forever and don't have the level of intelligence to understand the reality.
By Tresoka at 12:25 AM ON 11/05/09
Really?~ Can you whine & gloat any more? Nobody cares, much less is jealous of your stupid religion......!
By Truthful at 12:26 AM ON 11/05/09
Why would he even put an Islamic place in the movie in the first place if he wouldn't destroy it? For the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people like him who defame others.
He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the Dome of the Rock/Wailing Wall in Jerusalem (should be known as Masjid Al-Aqsa) not being destroyed. But even if he did show it no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
And all you atheists should target their hatred against Jews for a change and see what doesn't happen. And they say that Jews have been oppressed for centuries, well it seems like they are taking vengenace out on Muslims. Behind all the terrorism is really the Jews. What are exceptional at defaming others so they create drama to associate hatred toward Muslims-- something they have been doing for centuries.
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube (the Kaa'ba is a symbolic place which was built by Prophet Abraham to worship God, not the place). And taking Qur'an verses out of context is absurd. Islam is the only faith/religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God).
The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start? Stop using the lying media for your source of information about Islam. Jews own mainstream media sources so hatred toward Islam/Muslims is inevitable.
What people fail to realize is that there are bad people in every region of the world. It is atrocious to think that people would stereotype killings and terrorism as Islam. If a certain culture allows certain horrible things to happen, it should not be associated with the wrong thing. Americans have been so good at mixing up things about other cultures for centuries. For a simple example, think about the cartoons that wrongfully portray Arabic culture mixed with Indian cultures where there are belly dancers (of non-Muslim Arabic regions) and men with head turbines (of the Indian Sikh culture) and profound Indian music.
It's also such a shame to think that Americans cannot simply tolerate anyone that will not assimilate with its ways. Why are only Muslim countries the target of US foreign policies? Why hasn't the US gone to any European country to change them? Until they don't look like us we can't accept them?
For example, Americans don't find modesty acceptable when it's done by Muslim women but it is okay American women wear Islamic culture inspired clothing ("tunics", "scarves/wraps", etc). And what if you turn the tables and learn that Muslims don't find it acceptable to be naked publicly. No one comes to the US with a "campaign against nakedness" like we go to other countries with campaigns against modesty (aka oppression)." It goes both ways and it a matter of perspective and culture. It's unfortunate that majority wins and being unmoralistic and associating sex with even drinking water is the majority nowadays. Muslims are targets of hatred because people really know that they are the only people left with any true morality and they wish they would also jump on satan's bandwagon.
It's just a shame that Muslims are blamed for being terrorists but: Do Muslims send missionaries to convert people like Christians do? Do Muslim countries invade other countries to change their ways. How would we like it if Iran occupied the US with military on an effort to bring modesty and righteousness back to Americann people? Do Muslims have a mainstream media outlet defaming non-Muslims all the time like the US has? Who's the real terrorist? The bully aka U.S.A.
Doesn't anyone have the ability to think about anything from the other perspective? What about all the Muslims that have been killed by non-Muslim root terrrorist organizations like "George Bush & Robert Gates?" Just because Muslims are not dominant and don't have their own mainstream media to demonize such people doesn't change the fact. Even though chaos is spread through organized efforts (aka US military) it does not change the name of terrorism. The US is actively engaged in terrorism but constantly blames random Muslims and puts them under the limelight.
Mainstream media is always giving us personal relationship advice that we should learn to accept each other for who him/her is and don't try to change someone because it won't be successful. Well, why can't we apply that same principle to people of different faiths and culture? Unless you are full of unjustified empty grudges you would be open-minded.
Muslims will be hated until they become satanic and unmoralistic like everyone else. Too bad that will never happen so I guess the movie too illustrates that Islam stands strong until the end.
By sonia at 12:26 AM ON 11/05/09
ALLAH AKBAR!!! (GOD IS THE GREATEST) IF HE WASNT THEN THE MOVIE WOULDA BEEN ALL ABOUT THE KAABA GETTING DESTROYED..... OHH YA AND THE DAY DEC 21 2012 MIGHT B 2NIGHT....2MORRO....NEXT WEEK.....NOW....ONLY ALLAH KNWS!!!!!! ALLAH AKBAR
By sannam at 12:28 AM ON 11/05/09
ok guys r u guys serious?? who cares if he didnt destroy the kaaba? ppl have too amny problems.. mmuslims care if he would because they actually care 4 their beliefs n if thats a problem well go solve it
also y r ppl hating on muslims?? yes there r extreemist but yo there r extreemists in other religions as well its not just the muslims....
so stop hating n get a life its rude to talk shit about religion ppl have to right to practice any religion they want its in the bill of rights if u dont believe me.....
PROUD TO B A MUSLIM ( n i wont ever bring another religion down) so maybe u shouldnt either
By Tresoka at 12:28 AM ON 11/05/09
Truthful~Don't quit your day job!
By Hmm at 12:30 AM ON 11/05/09
How come it's okay with atheists to believe in superstition that comes from Mayan folklore and not believe in God?
By sam at 12:32 AM ON 11/05/09
Unbelievable. There a lot of racist people here. Why blame the Muslims? We didn’t ask the director to show Christian symbols being destroyed. I bet anybody here that most of you never been to any Muslim country. You guys start insulting Islam without any knowledge about Islam. If Islam teaches hate; it won’t be the fastest growing religion. Islam teaches love and kindness. It teaches respect for all religion. You judge Islam for what happen in 09/11, but you guys don’t care about the thousand of people how died in Iraq and Palestine. Stop this F hate, and stop the double standard.
By Hmm at 12:32 AM ON 11/05/09
Tresoka -- you're bashing on others makes it seem like this is YOUR day job. Give it a rest and wait for hell like the rest of your atheist buds.
By Dykstrav at 12:33 AM ON 11/05/09
"The goal is not to defeat our enemy--but to inspire within them the fear to attack!" Anyone seen Doctor Strangelove? The muslims apparently have...
By shoeb at 12:34 AM ON 11/05/09
ok
By free_speech at 12:34 AM ON 11/05/09
Fitting actually, and ads to the plot.
Since,
the original and oldest house of worship on this planet (kabba built by Abraham > is the birth to christianity/islam/judaism)
By magicwolflady at 12:35 AM ON 11/05/09
hey really? they bash muslims cause all muslims are violent and we have enough violence in the world! they lash bombs to women and children to kill innocents! they drive carloads of bombs into civilians and hijack planes and drive them into american buildings! even the koran tells them to kill infidels ( anyone that is not a muslim )!
By Really? at 12:37 AM ON 11/05/09
This movie included an Islamic place not being destroyed for the very reason to create more hatred against Muslims. I'm not sure when this fad will fade out. I also wonder why Americans tend to steal everything created by Muslims and Middle Eastern cultures but never want to accept the people who created it? Instead they give credit to non Muslim nations around the Mid-East such as Greece and India. It's a shame how Americans are the least truthful people on earth.
By k_reome at 12:40 AM ON 11/05/09
its sad muslims think he is partial to there religion by not putting that brck in the movie the sweaty bastards think he is endorsing them
By Tresoka at 12:43 AM ON 11/05/09
Hmm~I don't believe in any of that crap(hokus-pokus!) It's not my day job, but when I stumble upon soooo much stupidity & shallow thinking I must add at least my 2 cents.....! P.S.~Hell is your insecurity forcing you to believe in GOD! Allah! Aliens! or whatever.....! Study instead of believing! THEN, maybe you'll leave the 7th century! All you Muslims want to shove your religion down everybodies throat, so I'm going to shove MY intelligent inconvenient truth down YOUR throat just for tonight! Cheers!
By Really? at 12:46 AM ON 11/05/09
FYI: Freakin atheists think that not destroying Islamic place was a favor for Muslims. Quite the contrary! It was left in the movie to create more controversy and hatred against Muslims--something Americans are stupendous at!
Truthful said:
"Why would he even put an Islamic place in
the movie in the first place if he wouldn't
destroy it? For the very purpose of
increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam.
Shame on people like him who defame
others.
He was too scared to create controversy
against Jews so he failed to show the Dome
of the Rock/Wailing Wall in Jerusalem
(should be known as Masjid Al-Aqsa) not
being destroyed. But even if he did show it
no one would be whining that he dared not
to touch such a sacred place. "
By Tresoka at 12:48 AM ON 11/05/09
free_speech! YES! A TRUE intellect! Thank you for the clarification for ALL!
By RES at 12:48 AM ON 11/05/09
We seem to forget the Muslims are always killing Muslims. Thousands and thousands of men, women and children slaughtered in Algeria. Radical Islamic types raining down on small towns and slitting everyone's throat. This is not the work of "God" but that of the devil.
By Hmm at 12:50 AM ON 11/05/09
Tresoka -- you are the epitome of scum in a toilet and full of terrorist anger. Study made up research by people who keep changing their findings daily and then study the Qur'an for a change and you will see that all that science was already there to begin with.
By I can't understand! at 12:56 AM ON 11/05/09
Like someone said up there in this blog, it is interesting that a PEACEFUL religion would cause someone to be so afraid of it that would not try piss them off in any way. I mean I am Christian, and I don't mind if you destroy something that we christians might hold dear or if you even say something against my religion on a movie that is not true, all I would do if someone did say something in a movie wrong about my religion and people actually believed it is I would go public and deny what they said and I would actually prove it also through the bible if it was something about what the bible said, because some people misinterpret what the bible says by just reading a verse and not the rest or many other ways. But I would do it with integrity and respect I dont need to cuss anyone or threaten anyone that said anything wrong about my beliefs and that is how you show that YOU ARE a TRUE CHRISTIAN, not by being disrespectful to people that think different than YOU but by showing them mercy and love, and I mean ACTUAL LOVE, not the love that the ISLAM has ohhhhh we are a peaceful religion, but if you don't agree with us we..ummmm.....in the words of ACHMED the dead terrorist "SILENCE I KILL YOU"!!!!! HEEHEHEH THAT Jeff Dunham is awesome, ohhh I was wondering the other day how come he isnt dead yet, not that I have something against him I LOVE that guy he is funny as heck but the ISLAM hasnt done anything to him or threaten him in some way wow, well good for him he is either lucky and the ISLAM people haven't seen his act "WHICH I DOUBT" or he is very blessed by the ALL MIGHT TRUE GOD!
I am also brazilian too so I don't mind if you destroy "Cristo Redentor" the big statue in rio. It is actually good cause is advertisement to Brazil like .....hey lets go to Brazil to see up close that statue that they destroyed in the movie 2012.
By Tresoka at 12:56 AM ON 11/05/09
Insults....just like a Muslim to insult those who don't agree with your communist way of thinking! Funny, the Qur'an & Allah came AFTER Christ! Carateria style religion is all you have! You weren't even first, OR second with your leader, but 3rd! Bronze medal for YOUR savior!
By Hmm at 12:56 AM ON 11/05/09
Thank you Yahoo! for promoting this website for wackos and creating more hatred toward Muslims!! I hate Muslims b/c I can't ever be like them! So instead I'll make up lies about them for being the "mean girls" and then cry that they bully me.
By Marthastew at 12:57 AM ON 11/05/09
There's an Islamic fanatic who just got arrested for plotting to kill a Dutch cartoonist and blow up the newspaper over a comic strip that appeared FOUR YEARS AGO!!! Obviously we're dealing with irrational, insane people who think that sort of behavior is "normal." Of course he's scared.
By zul at 12:58 AM ON 11/05/09
Guys, learn about Islam, learn and learn from the right source, then make your comments.Praise the Creator who creates us and the universe and all beyond...stop arguing just start learning...read...read in the name of the Creator.....
By Smart Move Emmerich at 12:59 AM ON 11/05/09
Emmerich did the right thing not destroying the Holy Kaaba, if he would have done so much controversy would have erupted for good reason. If other religions think their religious landmarks are important than maybe they should stand up for those landmarks when they are abused in the media. As for Islam, we have stood up for our religion and our landmarks even when many people these days are Anti-Muslim.
By "Voice In The Wilderness" at 1:00 AM ON 11/05/09
Hoss but it says in the Bible not to eat Pork... please reply...
Leviticus, Chapter 11 Verse 6
And that proves that Christianity is a purely man made religion when their followers can't even follow their own Bible.
___________________________________
Read the Book Of Acts... Peter has a dream about a sheet coming down from heaven with ALL Manner of Beast...To Include Pigs, and is told by "The Lord" to "Kill, and Eat".
Peter at first says no, that he has never touched anything "Common or "Unclean"
and "The Lord" answers him and says; What God hath "Cleansed", Call Thou Not "Common".
So God in the New Testament gave a "Commandment to Eat"...even PORK!
So those of us that eat pork are "Following God's Commandment"!
Why don't you try reading "ALL Of The Bible", which being translated is: "Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth"!
By Tresoka at 1:01 AM ON 11/05/09
Allah, is a lot of nothing but wishful thinking! Where is he now? Playing poker with GOD & Satan(brothers by the way)making fun of ALL of you! Hahaha! Your whole religion & GOD is basically plagiarism from Christianity's GOD that came first in history, but the white man probably altered history too right?
By peacelover at 1:01 AM ON 11/05/09
I have an idea. Why don't we make a movie that focuses on destroying these landmarks with terrorist methods, and throw in some offensive cartoons while we are at it. I am not afraid of anyone, especially an ignorant fanatic. Bring it.
By Allah is GREAT at 1:10 AM ON 11/05/09
Allah himself is the one who protects the Ka'baa.
Islam is perfect. look into it besides the media and don't allow your ignorance to override you.
don't let the media be your source of information.
This is your sign.
By piece of mind at 1:10 AM ON 11/05/09
well, i have to say that this is all really superficial. more than 95% of the comments here attack muslims because this guy has expected a certain response from some terrorists. some comments even attack arabs as you may read in the previous comments. first of all, as a muslim i tell you that destruction of Kaaba is a sign of judgment day in islamic religion and this movie is about the end of the world which is somehow equivalent to judgment day. so, why should we as muslims get offended because an entertainment movie discusses this point from the western or maian point of view? the answer is that we wouldn't. it is just a miscalculation of the director or may be he wants the movie to gain some more millions of dollars in the eastern world, and no more, which is what i really think. i would say that this man should have quit all the scenes about all religions in general to avoid this unbalanced view and in the same time to show respect to all. if he is anti- religion man , then he could have depicted all places equally. as an arab and muslim, let me tell you that i was really astonished by all this hatred to muslims and arabs. you are reacting here based upon your expectations of our response which is totally unfair and, sorry to say, stupid!! about insulting other religions and races, this makes you as equally uncivilized and racial as the people you are insulting, because you are doing here what you are accusing us of. i do not think that crusade campaigns or both WW 1 and 2 were lead by arabs or muslims. for the peaceful americans here, who built their country on the blood and bones of the native tribes of north america, please do not forget your bloody history and your massacres in the name of civilizations. by the way, the meaning of fatwa word as you all use here, is wrong as it is an arabic word that means an opinion about a point that was not clearly mentioned in our holy book. so ,do not be so ignorant and try to read something real about us instead of all this bullsh*t you are saying here. for the guys who say that we are uncivilized people, you have built most of your current western science on the basis of our sciences in the old times, and thanks to your imperialism we were not able to catch up with you. of course we are to blame for a large part, but please do not pretend that your hands are clean of everything and do not judge a religion by what a bunch of crazy idiots are doing. they are hated in our lands more than in yours, because they are the cause for all this sh*t you are writing here about islam. finally, i am not talking to you here as christians or jews, because it is part of our religion to believe in and respect both if you do not know, but i rather speak to the superficial ignorants who just don't know what they are talking about.
By wow at 1:13 AM ON 11/05/09
wow!!!,
what beautiful comments,
hatred, prejudice, defensiveness ,ignorance,
all coming under one roof.
By Hmm at 1:13 AM ON 11/05/09
"Treskoka" you are a communist with your closeminded thinking. Being first means it's old and outdated as in "lets rebel against God and not follow the update." Allah is God and has been there forever. And I'm not exactly sure where you get your stereotype of Muslims insulting others. Funny because you've been the one insulting and bashing Islam and Muslims since the first comment you posted. I'm sorry you never even made it through elementary school. It figures why you are so ignorant.
"To I can't understand":
And the notion that Muslims would be upset and kill people for destroying the Kaaba in a movie is funny because that is the thinking that this movie was promoting!! Well at least they were successful at making more enemies against Islam.
And yes anyone that TRULY has any faith in their religious beliefs would be upset about their landmark/holy place being destroyed even in a movie. If it were Jews in this place there would've been another 9/11 on two non-religious buildings to kill innocent people (btw there wasn't one Jew inside the twin towers in case you haven't done your reading).
Normal human psychology would make a person (no particular religion) upset about holy landmarks being destroyed.
But what if someone made a movie ridiculing the twin towers being bombed down again and not just to make new earthquake safe buildings but to kill innocent people? would something so sacred as 9/11 (and make fun of people that were hurt by it) be fine to depict in a movie?
By Tresoka at 1:14 AM ON 11/05/09
I have a better idea....Why don't we all forget about religion until someone, OR thing proves themselves. THEN, nobody will be guilty (alone) & we will all perish together(GOD needs us right?) (which will never happen unless mother nature(super volcanoes, meteors, earth quakes, etc...)~(NOT GOD!) decides we are done. OR, we will all move forward as a society which is what I believe the higher power(alien life form) is really waiting for....!
By zul at 1:17 AM ON 11/05/09
I'm sure 100% sure that for those who have learned about Islam from the right source with open heart and mind won't make any nasty comments about Islam because Islam is the way of life of adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham,David, Moses, Jesus and all the prophets be peace be upon them....read...read...in the name of The Creator.......love peace no war please.....
By Saifii at 1:22 AM ON 11/05/09
Simple is that no one can destroy kaaba nor in a movie niether in real ( naauzubillah ). Its ma Challenge.. ALLAH protect HIS Holly KAABA and we muslims too.. The person portrayed Muhammad Sallalahu Aalaihi Wasallam was fire burned ( no one knows how ) .. so what would happen if person try to do something with kaaba??... Think about it.. And Let call ISLAM RELEGION OF PEACE.
By ttth at 1:24 AM ON 11/05/09
Go and live in a Muslim country for a while. Tell me what you think when the "religion police" tell you to get on your knees and bow to Mecca (five time a day). Tell me what you think when your husband has four wife and this is called modesty. Tell me what you think when you have no church to pray because your "religion" is not permitted. Tell me what you think when your told NOT TO THINK. It goes on and on and on. Tell me what you think when you are FATWAed to death. Either you believe in Islam or you get exterminated. Sounds a bit like WWII and a guy by the name of HITLER.
By Hmm at 1:26 AM ON 11/05/09
why is the power of God termed by mother nature? Why can't insignificant beings on this planet acknowledge the power that created this universe (and others not known to existence).
The Mayans don't even believe the 2012 theory. It's all scientific and media farce. But even if we consider the theory, what is it exactly that is going to destroy the world? Did mother nature finally get mad because it wants to be called brother nature instead?
By . at 1:28 AM ON 11/05/09
cure blindness of the heart by Knowledge
Fun Fact: Since modern science has only recently proven the water to earth ratio, try believing that Someone already knew since He made it and that Someone passed the word on to cure blindness. Believe it.
The number of times the following words appear in the Qur’an:
Sea= 32, Land= 13
Sea + Land= 32 + 13= 45 (Yes Muslims invented mathematics but that’s not it folks, we know how to add too!!!!!)
Sea= 32/45*100= 71.11111111% Oh my Allah! It’s a Miracle! Haha
Land= 13/45*100=28.888888889%
Sea + Land= 100%. Believe it for your own good no matter what bad people do, He’s not bad. Believe in Him.
By Saifii at 1:28 AM ON 11/05/09
Just think.. "Whats the thing attracting non-muslims to let them convert their relisiogn to islam"
By Hmm at 1:30 AM ON 11/05/09
to ttth: isn't it the same way for any nation where there is a majority vs. minority? what about the oppression against Muslims in America? Muslims are being persecuted daily and you are accepted to wear Islamic modest clothing and praying is a no-no in this unmoralistic society. And on top of it Muslims around the world are being attacked by the same people. Sounds to me like America is the new Hitler
By free_speech at 1:31 AM ON 11/05/09
All the protesters,whiners,complainers . . . .
so boycott the movie if you don't agree instead of
crying about it.
Some how I think the complainers will be the
one's 1rst in line to see this movie.
(must be the lead in their drinking water)
Ps > Just don't see the movie if you have such complaints about it, and just shut the f up already.
crybaby whiners . . . sheeesh
By Get_Real_People at 1:33 AM ON 11/05/09
The dude is just making a disaster movie based on a Mayan Legend that predicts the END OF THE WORLD. Not the end of the world as we know it but the whole world is toast! So what if he shows some religious structures being destroyed and not others. If the world is gonna end everyone is DEAD!! And there's no buildings, structures, etc left.
Now as for religion, I believe in GOD and He doesn't live in a building or structure or symbol HE lives in the heart of man if man believes in HIM.
This movie will not offend GOD. You can't catch GOD by surprise. HE knew everything before the beginning began. HE knew homie was going to make this movie.
Get over it people!!! This movie is just for gratuitous violence and watching things go boom from the safety of a theater. Come on... get over it!!!
By Tresoka at 1:33 AM ON 11/05/09
I am college educated with an MBA dip_stick! From Columbia sadly enough who has no shame & will host such idiot losers as the loser from Iran who's name I chose not to waste my time trying to spell out of insult to him! I am SOOOOOOOOO open minded that I believe in a higher power your quislings don't even know scrap about! ALIEN LIFE FORM~The TRUE GOD! By the way, some times first means first! Not some bs explanation like you are trying to present to explain away anything that doesn't jive with your crap! PS~Mother Natere is a figure of speech, not a belief! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................
By salim at 1:35 AM ON 11/05/09
The "Holly KABBA" can't destroy by Human being it is protected by Allah ,who had buiid it.
By raosen at 1:35 AM ON 11/05/09
Now let me tell you guys one thing that what he is planning to do, he destroys all the sacred places instead of kabba, well what do u think is he really afraid to do this because of fatwa, nope he is destroying christian catholic church, the vatican city and not the orthodox, why! this is because he does not want peace in any way, this is a movie to boost up the hatred for muslims worldwide! just think that and you will know what is the reality
By piece of mind at 1:39 AM ON 11/05/09
to ttth:
are you drunk or have you seen that in a sci fi movie? this is the most ignorant and stupid thing i have heard ever!!! Egypt is an islamic country with 8% of population are christians. the percentage of churches to the number of christians is higher than the percentage of mosques to the number of muslims! the law used in egypt is a mixture of english and french law , not the islamic law, to have equality between, people, and there are christian courts that judges christians if they want to resort to religious judgement. there is nothing called religion police in all arab countries and if someone threatens or forces a person from another religion to do something against his will, he is caught at once by police and interrogated for this, and followed for months or may be years by the national security police to check if he is just stupid or he has a relation to a terrorist cell. the number of people who have four wives in egypt is far less than 0.1% of population and those who have one wife only is around 98%. it was written in the holy book , you ignorant , that there are specific reasons for that and if one is afraid to be unfair, and he will be mostly unfair, then he must not do it. this is a literal translation. go read a little before you just say these stupid things.
By idiots at 1:47 AM ON 11/05/09
WOW, LOOK AT ALL YOU GUYS PUTTING STEREOTYPES ON PEOPLE.
CHRISTIANS HAVE EXTREMISTS, JEWS HAVE EXTREMISTS, BUDDHISTS HAVE EXTREMISTS.
JUST BECAUSE OF ONE INCIDENT, PEOPLE BLAME THE WHOLE RACE OF ISLAM TO BE TERRORISTS.
GO EDUCATE YOURSELVES.
ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES WHO ARE CREATING A DIVIDED AND RACIST SOCIETY LIKE TODAY.
we're all god's children like it or not.
PEOPLE SAY NO WAR, LETS HAVE PEACE
THEN STOP BEING HYPOCRITES AND BITE OUR TONGUES AND HAVE PEACE WITH WORDS.
By free_speech at 1:48 AM ON 11/05/09
Haahaha May be Roland Emmerich himself is
a closet Muslim.
. . . so you crybaby whiners going
to see the movie ? ? ? Lol
By GO YANKEES at 1:49 AM ON 11/05/09
Coward is the word. If he were a true film producer he would have destroyed it all but since islam is a religion of hatred and violence he didnt want to incite them to put a fatwa on him. He would not worry if islam were a truly peaceful religion.
By Tresoka at 1:50 AM ON 11/05/09
Or maybe a bravehart! NOT!
By nonBloger at 1:51 AM ON 11/05/09
Hi all
I just wanted to point out how this article is not actually a very well written but just because it includes a controversial subject has generated a huge amount of responses.
This place is just as good as any to have a religious discussion/ values discussion but the writer totally used a cheap shot way to get people into this discussion.
Peace!
By columbia at 1:52 AM ON 11/05/09
Those who don't know Islam ,please don't make nasty comments about Islam. Try to learn first from the right source, read the Quran, read it with open heart and mind then give your comments.....you with what you believe.....all of us will be answerable to The Creator in the hereafter.....you with what byou believe....
By Tresoka at 1:53 AM ON 11/05/09
Fatma+Fat Mom! ALL Bull SHIOT!
By truth at 1:54 AM ON 11/05/09
We Muslims respect our faith and religion..the Kaba'ah is Holy for us and we will not have any one poke fun at it even if in a movie....if the christians and jews had any respect for their respective landmarks thy thmselves would declare a fatwa on this man for having demeaned their religion....thy shudnt call their indifference tolerance...
fer all u noe this man's fear has been instilled by the Almighty Himself....and he is right in being afraid..because even if a fatwa is not issued....God will not spare him....if u want proof...ask the man to go ahead with it and see what happens.......
All in all Islam is indeed a peaceful religion...we dont attack unless its to defend purselves....sucide bombings have no place in Islam....the people who do tht are jus taking revenge fr their own atrocities and nuthin more...it has no link to Islam...
so before making baseless and uneducated statements i would request all ov u to find out more about Islam...thn u urselves would realise what a beautiful religion it indeed is....
By A proud Muslim at 1:57 AM ON 11/05/09
Kudos to Roland for being considerate and sensible. The sad thing is most of the negative comments about Islam are pure hate. Don't tell me about terrorist when you have people like Hitler and Stalin both westerners. And to kill and bomb civilians you just have to join Nato as its more easier that way then killing your self. As far as the jerk who killed his daughter is going to hell just like the civilized westerners who gang rapped a 15 year old.
By sav. at 1:58 AM ON 11/05/09
He's doing this because our country is in a war against this religions country... he's making sure his head doesnt get slaughtered. You have to be very careful when making a movie about ending the world.
By intelligentlife at 1:59 AM ON 11/05/09
Isn't it great we live in a country where you are free to have an opinion and the freedom to express it?
There isn't a religion in the world that hasn't killed in the name of peace at some point, whether historically of currently.
Religion is based on power and changes are made within religion to grow the following thereby gaining power.
By Tresoka at 2:01 AM ON 11/05/09
A proud Muslim is one who is super-ignorant! Hitler WAS NOT a WESTERNER! Or Stalin! Look at the lines of Latitude! That makes almost ALL Muslims WESTERNERS dumb-ass!
By seremban at 2:01 AM ON 11/05/09
Read the history of Kaaba, there have been attempts to destroy it, it is protected by The Creator, The Most Gracious The Most Merciful.
Only The Creator can destroy The Kaaba........
By from a different view at 2:08 AM ON 11/05/09
I think differently from all of u. I think he meant a mean insinuation that is because of Islam's terror nature he couldn't complete his perfect piece of art, whereas the christian broad mindedness was a helper. That is not the truth, as prophet Mohamed used to deal calmly with those who opposed him, and that was God's orders "And if you were hard to them they would disperse away from you" not to mention destroying a machete in a silly movie. THE REAL REASON IS THAT HE WANTS A HIGH REVENUE FIGURE FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
MY PROOF IS NOT HIM MENTIONING ANYTHING ABOUT THE REASON FOR SKIPPING JEWISH ICONS IN JERUSALEM.
By Tresoka at 2:09 AM ON 11/05/09
Read Planet of the apes...It's kinda true too!
By Augustus10 at 2:13 AM ON 11/05/09
Where does everyone get off thinking the majority of Muslims are moderate?!?! What has EVER given anyone that impression is beyond me!
By Tresoka at 2:17 AM ON 11/05/09
You are your own impression.....
By wolf at 2:18 AM ON 11/05/09
the problem that most people are having issues with is -- he fears or respects a religiion (and hides behind fear to mask it) to have any kind of image of that organized religion destroyed in his movie.
that has caused a lot of displeasure and distaste among readers.
the point is,
this is america
he can made any movie he wants.
however, if he "really" does not like organized religion then he should treat ALL religions the same. otherwise, you are baised towards or against one of them.
since he "feared" destroying a muslim icon, he should refrained from destroying any religious icons and just alluded to that fact.
there are many many monuments that have iconic status.
i.e.
the leaning tower of piza
the effiel tower
washingtons memorial
lincolns memorial
the russian square
and so on.
but by attacking some and not all, he offended many instead.
and yes, i do think if what he said is true then he is a coward to hide behind "fear" of retaliation by omitting islamic icons from his movies.
he is not that important a person that anyone is going to come after him when he does. the sad thing here ....he really really thinks he's important enough to even get a fatwah.
puhlease get real,dude
p.s.
the fatwa against satanic verses was different. Salman Rushdie's book was viewed by many islams to say (not outright) that the quaran was made up by the devil( the whole book was dedicated to the satanic verses story-not some 2 second scene in a movie that has nothing whatsoever to do with islam).
many of them didn't even read the book- like most people today instead of actually finding out what it said -it was word of mouth that caused the issue.
By Clearhead at 2:26 AM ON 11/05/09
here we go a stupid movie made by a millionair to make more money got a whole crowd insulting each others relegions which is not even the basis of this stupid movie, braavoooo to the producer.
destroying a kaaba in a movie isnt worth putting a death sentence on the producer, in my opinion being a moderate muslim.
To be honest i might consider it offensive if it was the only thing blown up. however instead of attacking islam with such comments posted here is not the right thing to do this producer could have blown other things up like well known commercial building and the seven wonders instead of targeting relegious icons(regardless of any relegion). If you are a christian and you dont like what he blew up stand up and speak up, same goes if you are a jew, if you are bahai, buddism, etc....
Secondly, proper muslim dont beleive in suicide attacks because in isalm if you kill yourself God will not permit you to go to heaven.
on another note, this Aytollah of iran is nothing but a maniac and uses the name of islam for his own fanatics and political regime. Do not judge all muslims based on what you hear or see from some of them. I dont want to get into this but it is also to important to distinguish between a Sunni Muslim and a Shiite Muslim.
Shame on those who let other do their thinking for them.
By wow at 2:27 AM ON 11/05/09
ISLAM IS GREAT U ALL SPENT SOME TIME TO TALK ANOUT ISLAM... WOW... I WISH U ALL WILL LAST BEING A MUSLIM... AMEN..
By ارشد at 2:27 AM ON 11/05/09
I love to hear that u r really afraid of that... yes we ppl (muslim) don't want you to pull us into ur rotten minds
You are afraid i am happy. We've spiritual love with Macca. God is blessing islam..
By Tresoka at 2:31 AM ON 11/05/09
IF YOU ARE ALL SO SMART, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN WIZARDS & WARLOCKS IN AN AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT? SCARED! OF WHAT? THE UNKNOWN? GET OVER IT! LIVE & DIE BY THE MOMENT!
By karkun at 2:31 AM ON 11/05/09
kaabah is the true sacred site, even imagination is prohabited by ALLAH from destroying it... all muslim who are true to Islam will be offended if there are any attempts to destroy kaabah, in reality or not... just leave it alone if you are not yet muslim...
By Singularity at 2:31 AM ON 11/05/09
I bet he would have a bigger block buster if he made a movie about end of Muslim countries and all the iconic representations. Also, I thought Hollywood was under Jewish control anyhow? Religion is root of all evils, wars, pain and suffering of all humanity from history to now. I don't have problems with one's religion if one's belief is self good and love for all humanity regardless of their differences but I do have an issue with Islam and the extremist this religion cultivates. You don't find Christians, Buddhist, or Catholics indiscriminately killing innocent people in the name of their God (maybe in the old history but not now when everyone can practically tell the difference between sane and insane). Now, am I going to get a fatwa on my head from one of these crazy Islamist fanatics? I'll take my chances and not be a wuss like Roland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By free_speech at 2:33 AM ON 11/05/09
Does this mean he fears king herod too,
since herods's wall wasn't portrayed as being
destroyed ?
All this shows is that the original story was to
bait you people, hook line and sinker.
. . . ahhh > hollywood $ $ $
By Want peace in world everywhere at 2:37 AM ON 11/05/09
Why should a film/ movie writer OR director makes movies to creates problems instead of giving intertainments. why do you need to show destroys the worlds or famous buidling in the world abcoz YOU ARE/ ARE YOU jealious with something or with some holly places for any religion. Why do you need to destroy the white house or Taipie tower or other nice places or whole world. Why do you / we need to creat fear and problems in people and in the world. LIVE AND LET IN PEACE...
By Honest at 2:44 AM ON 11/05/09
@karkun, you're fool or just wanting to start something. You know what's most scared to probably 99% of all other non-Islamic pyschos? Paycheck and family well being. Take your crappy jack in the 'box' and worship it all you want.
By akfbkscons at 2:45 AM ON 11/05/09
What a coward. Period. He bowed to the radical terrorists out of fear. This is what's wrong with our country & all of western civilization. Appeasement never works. Ask British PM Chamberlain what happens when you are a spineless appeaser. Either all religions are fair game or none of them are.
By Greedy at 2:45 AM ON 11/05/09
if you are not Muslim then Don't talk about Ka'aba and leave it alone for those who pray and respect this Holly Place Ka'aba.
In your mind is Devil and your thoughts are
nasty.....
you can choose another way to make more money instead of making name and money in bad ways to hurt people... WHY?
Bcoz your eyes are greedy but you dont know your stomach is toooooooo small could fill by one bread... GREEDY
Do you have any gurantee you could see tomorrow? GREEDY
By Tresoka at 2:49 AM ON 11/05/09
Don't worry, we'll kick their ace-holes back into the 7th century again when they piss us off enough!
By Whats wrong with you at 2:51 AM ON 11/05/09
you are non muslim and you are showing destroying the buidlings in movies.. non of muslim told you to do this,,
man whats wrong with you and whats bothering you you can't Muslim's Holly places..
WHYYYYYYYYYYY
By Mr_Nando at 2:52 AM ON 11/05/09
Danial finally someone says it clearly ^_^
BAredneck "christians are hated more and more" have you ever though about why christians are hated more and more?
HolyWarrior your an idiot, stop bringing shame to islam!
steve hash ... yeah drinking Jesus "blood" really washes your sins... people just believe anything huh?
Fmus12 "These people are making assumptions that we will get mad. I dont see a fatwa occuring over a movie scene like this." it's funny how the Christians, Jews or any other non Muslim people are the ones that are causing so much hatred and violence in this simple web page lol. I wonder what they do in real life XD! With this kind of hatred no wonder there cant be peace between Islam and Christians lol.
piece of mind now this person is a true muslim. I also hate terrorist...they might be almost as ignorant as most Americans are lol
For the people that hate Muslims for bombing American embassies, mini American towns in foreign countries, why don't you get your government to get out? You're obviously not welcomed there lol. Is it so hard to believe that there are countries that hate America? News flash ignorant people. Most of the world hate America even none Islamic countries lol.
Americans need to stop trying to "fix" the world when they can't even actually fix their own country. For some reason America thinks that they are always right....They said that we need to take over the Philippines because they were animals and if left by themselves they will end up killing each other and their government will go down... How many people did we lose in that war? Did we even win???
...oh and yeah i'm American and no i'm not Indian or an Arab or from any country in the middle east lol. And I was also a Catholic that saw the big hypocrisy that Steve Hash mentioned in an early comment lol.
and before i leave...if Muslims were so extremist why haven't we heard of a Chinese or Indian Muslim bombing anything that has to do with America? and yes a big population of China and India are Muslims lol.
By Ahsan at 2:53 AM ON 11/05/09
Hating Muslims or Islam won't help, like most of you have boycotted the movie I would have done so as well if my religion was hit in any way. People who are concerned about their religion will stand against this movie rather than pointing on Muslims.
Why to destroy "any" religious artifact anyway? There are numerous iconic buildings (other than religious ones) in this world to destroy and probably more famous ones. In favor of Islam and other religions I do not appreciate the destruction of any religious building.
By Crusaders at 2:54 AM ON 11/05/09
There is a reason why Crusaders kicked Muslim a@@ in history. They say history will repeat itself. It's about time to wipe them out. Attack on Twin Towers was a sign for Christians to wake up and wipe them clean from face of this Earth.
By Jane at 2:57 AM ON 11/05/09
I think this fatwa thingy is being misinterpreted. Kaaba existed as a focal point for prayers. every corner of the globe, the direction of prayers will be towards the kaaba. it is not a a statue whr ppl will pray towards it. besides kaaba is in Masjidil Haram. Y can't he just sink the whole arab whole. I mean I wld understand why the director would want to destroy it, for gundu sake it's a disaster movie. But his main prob wld be gaining entry into Masjidil Haram. Non Muslims do not gain entry there. Simply said he has no access really. Don't call him a wuss. He's just out of options.
By Tresoka at 2:58 AM ON 11/05/09
hATE THIS, HATE THAT, I hATE ALL RELIGION!
By Mr_Nando at 2:59 AM ON 11/05/09
@ Crusaders....hahaha what an Idiot....plane and simple
By Anwar at 3:00 AM ON 11/05/09
please dont Make hurt our hearts . Thank you
By Singularity at 3:02 AM ON 11/05/09
@Tresoka, I agree. Wipe out all religions and the world will be Utopia. Religion is root of all Evil!
By Real at 3:03 AM ON 11/05/09
This Sci-Fi Wire website intentionally exclusively interviewed Emmerich for the purpose of creating hatred against Islam once again. Science is part of Islam, so imbrace what Allah/God has already given you. Stop fighting it and trying to figure out what was revealed to you in the holy books already. Stop making science the anti-christ.
By zul at 3:06 AM ON 11/05/09
peace...peace ...peace...I can see the blessings in this issue, people start looking into understanding Islam, those who try to do so with open mind and heart will find the truth like many others have after september 11bombing....peace...peace...peace......you will find that Islam is already in all of us who wants peace.....only that you don't realise because you don't want to find out......What is wromg is just the misunderstanding.......
By ramin at 3:06 AM ON 11/05/09
thank you emmerich
islam is the only religion in the final of univers.
By mode_b at 3:07 AM ON 11/05/09
In real life, there are two things in this world that the almighty protect him self and these are (1) The holy Quran and (2) The kaaba. so even if he does destroy it in the movie it can only be ithe movie. Even the so called white house can be destroyed by natural disasters. So if Rolland couldnt destroy it (The Kaaba) in the movie who can do that in real life ?
By Right at 3:08 AM ON 11/05/09
READ THESE SELECTED GOOD COMMENTS FROM ABOVE:
Why would he even put an Islamic place in the movie in the first place if he wouldn't destroy it? For the very purpose of increasing hatred toward Muslims and Islam. Shame on people like him who defame others. He was too scared to create controversy against Jews so he failed to show the Dome of the Rock/Wailing Wall in Jerusalem (should be known as Masjid Al-Aqsa) not being destroyed. But even if he did show it no one would be whining that he dared not to touch such a sacred place.
And all you atheists should target their hatred against Jews for a change and see what doesn't happen. And they say that Jews have been oppressed for centuries, well it seems like they are taking vengenace out on Muslims. Behind all the terrorism is really the Jews. What are exceptional at defaming others so they create drama to associate hatred toward Muslims-- something they have been doing for centuries.
I can't even believe there are such ignorant retards out there saying garbage like Muslims worship a cube (the Kaa'ba is a symbolic place which was built by Prophet Abraham to worship God, not the place). And taking Qur'an verses out of context is absurd. Islam is the only faith/religion that does NOT worship anything BUT the one and only Allah (aka God).
The way that Islam is always at the center of hatred targeted propagandas makes you think that others are just plain and simple jealous that Muslims are on the right path. Well, Islam doesn't deny anyone from learning about the religion so why don't you all start? Stop using the lying media for your source of information about Islam. Jews own mainstream media sources so hatred toward Islam/Muslims is inevitable.
What people fail to realize is that there are bad people in every region of the world. It is atrocious to think that people would stereotype killings and terrorism as Islam. If a certain culture allows certain horrible things to happen, it should not be associated with the wrong thing. Americans have been so good at mixing up things about other cultures for centuries. For a simple example, think about the cartoons that wrongfully portray Arabic culture mixed with Indian cultures where there are belly dancers (of non-Muslim Arabic regions) and men with head turbines (of the Indian Sikh culture) and profound Indian music.
It's also such a shame to think that Americans cannot simply tolerate anyone that will not assimilate with its ways. Why are only Muslim countries the target of US foreign policies? Why hasn't the US gone to any European country to change them? Until they don't look like us we can't accept them?
For example, Americans don't find modesty acceptable when it's done by Muslim women but it is okay American women wear Islamic culture inspired clothing ("tunics", "scarves/wraps", etc). And what if you turn the tables and learn that Muslims don't find it acceptable to be naked publicly. No one comes to the US with a "campaign against nakedness" like we go to other countries with campaigns against modesty (aka oppression)." It goes both ways and it a matter of perspective and culture. It's unfortunate that majority wins and being unmoralistic and associating sex with even drinking water is the majority nowadays. Muslims are targets of hatred because people really know that they are the only people left with any true morality and they wish they would also jump on satan's bandwagon.
It's just a shame that Muslims are blamed for being terrorists but: Do Muslims send missionaries to convert people like Christians do? Do Muslim countries invade other countries to change their ways. How would we like it if Iran occupied the US with military on an effort to bring modesty and righteousness back to Americann people? Do Muslims have a mainstream media outlet defaming non-Muslims all the time like the US has? Who's the real terrorist? The bully aka U.S.A.
Doesn't anyone have the ability to think about anything from the other perspective? What about all the Muslims that have been killed by non-Muslim root terrrorist organizations like "George Bush & Robert Gates?" Just because Muslims are not dominant and don't have their own mainstream media to demonize such people doesn't change the fact. Even though chaos is spread through organized efforts (aka US military) it does not change the name of terrorism. The US is actively engaged in terrorism but constantly blames random Muslims and puts them under the limelight.
Mainstream media is always giving us personal relationship advice that we should learn to accept each other for who him/her is and don't try to change someone because it won't be successful. Well, why can't we apply that same principle to people of different faiths and culture? Unless you are full of unjustified empty grudges you would be open-minded.
Muslims will be hated until they become satanic and unmoralistic like everyone else. Too bad that will never happen so I guess the movie too illustrates that Islam stands strong until the end.
By Really? at 12:14 AM ON 11/05/09
Islam that wasn't demonized or insulted for once it's not okay by everyone. Why? b/c Bush succeeded at his agenda to brainwash the world against Muslims and Islam. I just wonder what it would be like if Jews didn't control the world.
When it comes to Muslims, there are ignorant idiots out there saying that immigration should've been restricted in the first place. Well, what about the Mexicans who are slowly creeping to the top of the chain from within? What about all the orientals? what about the beloved dancing corrupted indian hindus?
It's so nice to know that such a great distinction is made against Muslims only. Muslims are the only people in the world that are not tolerated by Americans. Why? b/c people are so jealous of their looks, food, culture, and most importantly their religious beliefs. They'll never be better than Muslims so they'll bash on them.
I guess high school bullying never ends.
I guess one thing is true: atheists will burn in hell for not acknowledging they were created by a superior force. They are blinded forever and don't have the level of intelligence to understand the reality.
How come it's okay with atheists to believe in superstition that comes from Mayan folklore and not believe in God?
This movie included an Islamic place not being destroyed for the very reason to create more hatred against Muslims. I'm not sure when this fad will fade out. I also wonder why Americans tend to steal everything created by Muslims and Middle Eastern cultures but never want to accept the people who created it? Instead they give credit to non Muslim nations around the Mid-East such as Greece and India. It's a shame how Americans are the least truthful people on earth.
FYI: Freakin atheists think that not destroying Islamic place was a favor for Muslims. Quite the contrary! It was left in the movie to create more controversy and hatred against Muslims--something Americans are stupendous at!
Tresoka -- you are the epitome of scum in a toilet and full of terrorist anger. Study made up research by people who keep changing their findings daily and then study the Qur'an for a change and you will see that all that science was already there to begin with.
Thank you Yahoo! for promoting this website for wackos and creating more hatred toward Muslims!! I hate Muslims b/c I can't ever be like them! So instead I'll make up lies about them for being the "mean girls" and then cry that they bully me.
"Treskoka" you are a communist with your closeminded thinking. Being first means it's old and outdated as in "lets rebel against God and not follow the update." Allah is God and has been there forever. And I'm not exactly sure where you get your stereotype of Muslims insulting others. Funny because you've been the one insulting and bashing Islam and Muslims since the first comment you posted. I'm sorry you never even made it through elementary school. It figures why you are so ignorant.
"To I can't understand":
And the notion that Muslims would be upset and kill people for destroying the Kaaba in a movie is funny because that is the thinking that this movie was promoting!! Well at least they were successful at making more enemies against Islam.
And yes anyone that TRULY has any faith in their religious beliefs would be upset about their landmark/holy place being destroyed even in a movie. If it were Jews in this place there would've been another 9/11 on two non-religious buildings to kill innocent people (btw there wasn't one Jew inside the twin towers in case you haven't done your reading).
Normal human psychology would make a person (no particular religion) upset about holy landmarks being destroyed.
But what if someone made a movie ridiculing the twin towers being bombed down again and not just to make new earthquake safe buildings but to kill innocent people? would something so sacred as 9/11 (and make fun of people that were hurt by it) be fine to depict in a movie?
why is the power of God termed by mother nature? Why can't insignificant beings on this planet acknowledge the power that created this universe (and others not known to existence).
The Mayans don't even believe the 2012 theory. It's all scientific and media farce. But even if we consider the theory, what is it exactly that is going to destroy the world? Did mother nature finally get mad because it wants to be called brother nature instead?
to ttth: isn't it the same way for any nation where there is a majority vs. minority? what about the oppression against Muslims in America? Muslims are being persecuted daily and you are accepted to wear Islamic modest clothing and praying is a no-no in this unmoralistic society. And on top of it Muslims around the world are being attacked by the same people. Sounds to me like America is the new Hitler
This Sci-Fi Wire website intentionally exclusively interviewed Emmerich for the purpose of creating hatred against Islam once again. Science is part of Islam, so imbrace what Allah/God has already given you. Stop fighting it and trying to figure out what was revealed to you in the holy books already. Stop making science the anti-christ.
By Crusader at 3:10 AM ON 11/05/09
@Mr's' Nando,
Hey camel jocky, learn how to write English first before talking sh#t. It's plain not plane you jerk. Ah, forgot that you Muslim pyschos are fascinated by 'plane' and wanting kill people by this means. PLANE..LMAO
By WOW at 3:12 AM ON 11/05/09
U know iam a muslim and i love non muslims too as they r creaters of ALLAH as we r .... and i'll love them the non muslims MORE if when they beleive in islam.
By Crusader at 3:15 AM ON 11/05/09
@Mode_B
Answer: Isreal, we have nuke don't you know you idiots.
By john at 3:19 AM ON 11/05/09
salam ramin.. u are right. absolutely right. islam is the way of life.
By Crusader at 3:20 AM ON 11/05/09
@WOW
Why don't you repent and convert to Christianity? Your wayof thinking already classify you as fanatical mUSLIM. aLLAH the creator..LOL...give me a break
By Mr_Nando at 3:22 AM ON 11/05/09
haha damn i guess American schools are not as good as i though they were... no wonder Obama said that America's education in school are very low lol.maybe i should have gone to England for my edumacation lol and what a great come back by the way...making fun of spelling....isn't that the lowest insult a person can make? And i don't remember ever seeing a camel in America all my life lol
By nayeemmz at 3:23 AM ON 11/05/09
I think he has done something good. Whatever his reason I respect his decision. All those who are calling him a wuss and are themselves religion haters, did you even notice that he did not even consider using any hindu, buddhist or jewish symbol. All you haters just want to single out Islam all the time and you blame muslims for being intolerant.
By President Obama at 3:23 AM ON 11/05/09
Go Christians!
By mystic at 3:26 AM ON 11/05/09
Too bad Emmerich is totally ignorant about Islam and made no effort to seek advice. The destruction of the Kaaba is actually predicted in the Koran!
With some tweeking in the protrayal of the scene, he could have gotten away with it. The intelligent thing when you do not know something is to ask.
By ohioboyz66 at 3:27 AM ON 11/05/09
allah and mohammad are gay lovers. they both take it in the A@@
By Fadz at 3:28 AM ON 11/05/09
Oh, wow. Just read back what most of you guys are saying. Roland Emmerich goes on destroying Christianity icons and symbols, and still we Muslims get the blame. Don't get me wrong. I'm far from religious. And I'm not an Arab. But when people attack Islam, I feel a tug in my heart. And you guys are attacking Islam left right and center. Yes, there are a few extremists out there, but you let those few blind you against the other billions of us. Muslims in general have pride in our religion. We tend to be protective.
The reason our prophet Muhammad cannot be portrayed (acted or cartooned) is because such a thing is simply forbidden, not among Muslims, and certainly not among non-Muslims. Why Salman Rushdie was condemned for 'Satanic Verses'? He wrote into existence an alleged Quranic verse. You have to understand that the Quran has never seen any change and amendment since its conception, only translations. Even that requires the strictest monitoring. Other holy books have been tampered with, and adjusted according to times.
Had Mr Emmerich destroyed the Kaabah, I'm certain there will be a global outrage. For something that holy to be callously treated for the sake of a movie is not something to be proud of.
Instead of hating Islam and calling us extremists, suicide bombers, why not reflect inward? What do you feel when you see things you deem holy get blown up and desecrated? If you don't feel anything at all, it's not the world that's wrong. Maybe you no longer hold faith in something greater than mankind.
By Zeitgeist at 3:31 AM ON 11/05/09
Islam is a death cult....even the directors know it and cower in craven fear.
Fuck islam.
By A_mUsLiM at 3:32 AM ON 11/05/09
1. This article was written in the first place just to provoke hatred against Muslims! If u look closely you'll notice that Emmerich only destroyed symbols related to Christianity, he didn't destroy anything related to Buddhism, Hinduism, or Judaism; yet all the hatred is directed towards Islam!!! I wonder why??!
2. He's originally from Germany yet most of his work is in Hollywood, and hence he's from a Christian background so if he wants to destroy Christian holy symbols and his people are fine with it then so be it, but forcing his opinion, his prospective on other religions and other cultures is not acceptable! Freedom of speech should not be abused nor used in a disrespectful manner.
3. For those of you who are throwing hatred and passing judgment upon Muslims, you guys can't judge more than 1.5 billion Muslims based on the acts of a few!!! believe me if all the 1.5 billion Muslims believes in "killing infidels" for no reason other than being non Muslims, then millions would have died every day, so just try to use your mind before passing judgments!!
In fact, if you look back in history when Muslims had a strong kingdom, for example, in Andalusia (now part of Spain) for hundreds of years, they had Jews and Christians living freely amongst them, having their own places of worship. That's obviously not a religion of hatred!
(to read more about Andalusia check http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/andalusia.html )
4.People, stop being so full of hatred towards each other for that intolerance breeds intolerance, retaliation brings about retaliation, and revenge stimulates revenge.
"(255) GOD – there is no deity save Him, the Ever-Living, the Self-Subsistent Fount of All Being. Neither slumber overtakes Him, nor sleep. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth. Who is there that could intercede with Him, unless it be by His leave? He knows all that lies open before men and all that is hidden from them, whereas they cannot attain to aught of His knowledge save that which He wills [them to attain]. His thrown overspreads the heavens and the earth, and their upholding wearies Him not. And He alone is truly exalted, tremendous. (256) THERE SHALL BE no coercion in matters of faith. Distinct has now become the right way from [the way of] error: hence, he who rejects the powers of evil and believes in God has indeed taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way: for God is all-hearing, all-knowing."
(Translation of the holy Quran, Al-Baqarah: 255 - 256)
By wow at 3:33 AM ON 11/05/09
INDIA WILL BE THE SUPER POWER OF THE WORLD VERY SOON WITH MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION WOULD BE MUSLIMS...AMERICA WILL LOOS VERY SOON FOR DEFAMING ISLAM ... 9/11 WAS JEWS PROPERTY AND BLAME ON INOCENT MUSLIMS.. AMERICA UR DOOMS DAY IS COMMING VERY FAST AND VERY SOON.. AND U HAVE TO GIVE THE SO CALLED SUPER POWER ICON TO INDIA LOL
By Allah has promised to save "The Kaaba" forever at 3:38 AM ON 11/05/09
Mr. Roland, you are right, its not just the matter of "Fatwa", rather the matter of something more than that. Being a Muslim, I am sure, the Kaaba will be saved even on the Day of Judgement. You are wrong that everythng would be destroyed on That Day, as Islam is the Religion of Peace, then its symbol will remain forever because peace can never be destroyed, somehow it shall prevail.
By Muhammad Farooq at 3:41 AM ON 11/05/09
You Better even don't think of it, Islam is Peace in every sense.
By Crusader at 3:43 AM ON 11/05/09
@WOW, you being stupid again? Super Power? You mean super power in Call Centers with broken English? Mind as well us Americans take back all your jobs back and fire all of you Indians from Intel, HP, Microsoft, and kick you out of Silicon Valley and you will be back to worse than than filth of a country you currently live. How can a country (mainly Muslims) who eat their food with their dirty a$$ hands can be Super Power? Go back to harvesting your tea leaves.
By TGHEOP at 3:53 AM ON 11/05/09
To all the haters of Islam, read the recent news about this small baby in Chechnya who is getting the holy verses of Quran being written on his body in the most miraculous way. Also, the real terrorists are the Christians and Jews who killed most of their race during the WW1 & WW2, Christians have killed more in Vietnam, Korea, nuked Japan and are still killing innocent people in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Christians in the name of their brutal crusades killed, maimed and injured in the millions and yet that is seen as a normal thing. Don't be double standards or bunch of hypocrites and handle the real truth that is Christians and Jews alike love to kill people for oil and money, PERIOD!!
SIMPLY: Christians and Jews; ARE the real extremists
By Mr_Nando at 3:56 AM ON 11/05/09
@ Crusader, if you kick them out then who will do their jobs? Surely you don't really think your smart enough to fill in for them. The reason companies from here hire people from over there is because they are smarter than us Americans....i never thought that it was a lowed to be racist in Christianity...or are you atheist?
By wow at 3:58 AM ON 11/05/09
To: By Crusader at 3:43 AM ON 11/05/09
u know what ... at this side of the world BROKEN ENGLISH ROCKS!!!!! HAHAHHAHA.
u r so dummy in ur brain no super power as we have that u can't understand any other language othe then so called englis. u want the whole world will be an english speaking and man to man marrying place to destroy the human race... don't try to insult my SUPER BROKEN ENGLISH. lol
By JESUS CHRIST THE ONE AND ONLY at 3:59 AM ON 11/05/09
My lost childrens of Muslim/Islam, repent your sins now or you all will be damned for enternity!
By Jenny at 4:01 AM ON 11/05/09
People are saying that he's a wuss because..he's purely doing it so some Islam terrorist will go afer and kill him. Plus wouldn't all the islamic population be the same. But being a director is about directing a movie off political and religiouos views. Oh sure, its just a movie right? Then why destroy christian symbolic structures while leaving one particular structure out. Fear.
You know its ok to be afraid, but that doesnt give you to mock others just because they happen to want to kill you if you killed their holy sites. If I had a message for Roland, I just want him to know, dont insult a religion that has been much peaceful than you can imagine...more than Islam. A bush era war has nothing to do with it. I dont praise the israelies either. Just Christ, Just christianity.
Please consider your views, mr emmerich. Thats all I can say.
By Mei Hwei at 4:04 AM ON 11/05/09
People are saying that he's a wuss because..he's purely doing it so some Islam terrorist will go afer and kill him. Plus wouldn't all the islamic population be the same. But being a director is about directing a movie off political and religiouos views. Oh sure, its just a movie right? Then why destroy christian symbolic structures while leaving one particular structure out. Fear.
You know its ok to be afraid, but that doesnt give you to mock others just because they happen to want to kill you if you killed their holy sites.dont insult any religion.A bush era and the israelies dont speak for us Christians.Just Christ, Just christianity.
By Crusader at 4:09 AM ON 11/05/09
@MrS. Nando, I am their boss in a IT firm you nut. The only reason we outsource these 3rd country E1 visa people is that we can pay them by contract only 1/3 of the money we pay equally educated Americans here. Probably you're one of them or even working for me. It's about economics idiot and not religion perspective.
By Avalon at 4:12 AM ON 11/05/09
All back off! Hail our Goddess, the mother of all. Chief priestess of the ONLY religion that you have all united against...and yet the ONLY religion that has never caused or participated in any type of war against fellow mankind....You can call it witchcraft, paganism, whatever you will, but in the end, after all other religions have killed each other off, the Mother will return.
Blessed be!
By Hitler at 4:15 AM ON 11/05/09
@Crusader at 4:09 AM ON 11/05/09. u r not their BOSS ur a BIG LOSS.lol
By Singularity at 4:16 AM ON 11/05/09
Message to Roland:
1. Blow the hell out of Kaaba and make it a 30 mintue scene
2. You will make ten times the money!
3. All true Americans will go see it
4. True Americans will praise this as the best movie in the history for this 30 min scene
By Very Serious Person at 4:18 AM ON 11/05/09
I think it's good the Kabaa was untouched in the film as it now leaves room for a sequel. Everyone knows, don't they, that the Kabaa is the last vestige of the Garden of Eden. Maybe Adam and Eve could come back somehow. And God speaks Arabic, right? So maybe he could get mad in the next film. If organized religion is a problem, that's okay. God does not get enough roles in films and it's about time. All the good parts are going to Satan these days. Well that's Adam and Eve's fault somehow.
Maybe in the sequel during Hajj when people are throwing stones at Satan, the Hollywood producers could be there, and it would be a big blowout when Satan and Hollywood are simultaneously brought down by God. There could be a new world order where meaningless dramas are not allowed, and comedy becomes sacred, and we could bring back Robin Williams when he played that Catholic Priest we could have peace among all religions and people. In the end people of every religion would throw stones at Satan with Robin Williams coming out with all kinds of insults. "Take that you bastard! I didn't like sex and drugs and rock and roll anyways!" Then God would step in and say those things were his, and everyone would cheer, and there would be Woodstock around the Kabaa with Crosby Stills & Nash, and we would get back to the Garden.
By mshe at 4:19 AM ON 11/05/09
Roland Emmerich could have avoided destroying any religious landmark in the film and not made a marketing media spectacle about it.
His choice. Bad choice.
By Scorehound at 4:22 AM ON 11/05/09
Its easy to destroy Christian buildings in a movie because Christians actually know its a movie. If he decided to do away with the Islamic temple in Mecca and in Jerusalem, the whole Muslim world would want him dead...even though its a movie.
By avalon at 4:23 AM ON 11/05/09
Hmmm.
Sounds like a peaceful religion to me!
/Quote: Islamist militants blew up a girls' school in Pakistan's Khyber district on Thursday, the second such attack in the lawless region on the Afghan border in four days, officials said. /Quote
By Crusader at 4:24 AM ON 11/05/09
@Hitler(aka WOW), you can't fake it WOW. I know it's you by your sorry a## English grammar. You sure you're not Ahmed Ranjiv who works at 7/11 right around the corner of my office? Sure sounds like him.
By Mr_Nando at 4:26 AM ON 11/05/09
@ Crusader, haha what ever, i bet one of your bosses is an Indian person lol
By Carolla at 4:26 AM ON 11/05/09
I think you guys are really missing the point ...
THE KABAA IS TINY. Its like forty feet tall. It would crush about 15-20 people at best in that movie.
PS: As a troll watcher, I love this site.
By pk at 4:31 AM ON 11/05/09
you are all bunch of f***ing idiots, f*** any religions.
look at you, so much hate and the cause is your stupid f***ing believes, you all breath, eat, drink, sleep and f*** to survive, what makes you think any of you is different than an other.
realign is nothing but a business and stupid f***ing people like you are brain washed to be f***ing taking advantage of!
stop wasting your time, start facing the fact that now is all you got and all your stupid believes of the next life is just a fantasy and empty and meaning less.
there would be no wars or hate if you just learned to be human and the day you get that, you will be sorry for the wasted time of your past.
By nuox012 at 4:34 AM ON 11/05/09
muslim culture is very peaceful. we respected those other religions and any of us had not even toucch other religions' sensitivity. This is our believe. As long as others respect us, u will have our respects as well. Please do not accuse us for something that is unproven.
By sano at 4:34 AM ON 11/05/09
to, piece of mind,
good show i appereciate you that u say in detail. lots of love n best wishes from all muslims. in short KAABA is protected by ALLAH himself and islam is the final relegion for human being. no one in this universe can destroy it even in movies its my believe being a muslim, n ithink film maker n witer know this. all comments r made against muslims or islam r just due to ingnorance. susite bombing, terrorist acts and all other such thing which were blamed by all of u r the result of nonmuslim propaganda against islam, i m not blaming just telling u the truth.
By Vic at 4:35 AM ON 11/05/09
Wise decision! Who would wanna mess with some extremists out there who take offence even on an eye-blink? Not everyone is "open-minded", let just leave them alone and let time allow them to slowly slip into extinction by their own "closeness". We just wanna enjoy a good show, and he just wanna make a movie. And we all wanna stay alive after that.
By Singularity at 4:35 AM ON 11/05/09
@PK, I couldn't have said it any better. Kudos to you
By Thanu at 4:45 AM ON 11/05/09
Everybody should just relax. It's just a movie. There's nothing to the issue actually. I also think that there are a lot of close-minded people just by reading the comments above. Why are people getting so worked up?
1) First of all, (this message goes out to Non-Muslims) some of you need to understand that if most Muslims are actually normal, sweet, kind people. I have a lot of Muslims friends but I'm still alive, right? Just because their religon is a lot more stricter than yours, and a very small percentage of them likes blowing up people, doesn't mean that all of them are terrorists. Every race and religions has its faults and the more the people accept that, the more peaceful the world would be. Americans used to have slaves, right? Than what is all the fuss about?
2)Second of all, to the Muslims out there, some of you have to stop preaching about your God every single time. How do you expect other religions to respect Islam if you do not respect their's? Doesn't it occur to you that we also have our own religion to follow? Or are some of you really that simple minded?
3) Lastly, to everybody out there, THIS IS JUST A MOVIE! Buy popcorn, settle down in front of the big screen and ENJOY! God, are we really a civilised society?
By Abdool at 4:56 AM ON 11/05/09
@Avalon
The media calling them "Islamist Militants" doesn't make them "Islamists". we have a name for them in arabic, and such behavior was seen in previous times and in different religions, they are called "Kha-wa-rej". beside, ur very stupid!! because ur point is not valid...the school is for muslims and they teach Islamic religion in it, so them blowing it shows you that they dont represent Islam, but in fact they prove the opposite!!
and thats why you see that Al Qauda who did the 9/11 attacks, also are blowing them selves in inocent Iraqi MUSLIMS!! which shows you that they dont have a religion, they're just crazy!!
@Thano
Its out of respect to you we preach about Islam! Why do you think I should care if you embrace Islam or not? its not like Im gona go to hell if you dont!!
Its because we believe that Islam is the right path and we would like for everyone to follow the right path of salvation, and if u dont like what you hear then you can simply keep your faith.
By MrBill at 4:57 AM ON 11/05/09
for those who did not see the golden compass, it was the most extremely anti everything west you can think of, and I was really incredibly disappointed. if it were not for nicole kidman, I think I would have demanded a refund.
By Allives at 4:57 AM ON 11/05/09
i'm a muslim, and let me tell you...
Islam teach us about peace from the very beginning.. and we care a lot about our religion, the rules and teachings in Islam. Of course you may find it a bit strict, but, hey, aren't you living under a strict law by your government? Every of us need law for living, right? Well, the true law comes from the ONLY God, Allah. He is The One, He is not three. (i cant imagine how this world will be if there are 3 Gods ruling the universe, it's like 3 Presidents ruling over a country.. it's crazy.. hmm.. i even heard a kindergarten kid said, "How come 1+1+1 is equal to 1??"). If you said Islam was created, brought and exaggerated by Muhammad, then why Islam, passing about 2000 years already and is still known as "Islam"? Not something like "Muhammadist"? Because it's not something from human, it's something from The Almighty God.
In Islam, we learn everything about life, from very tiny thing, to very massive thing.. Like, from what to do before enter the toilet, what to do before sleep, what to do before wearing clothes, what to do while looking at the mirror, until what to do when we see lightning in the sky, what to do when there is solar or lunar eclipse, what to do for our daily prayers, what to do before we exhale our last breath... everything, about business, about family inheritance, about food, about personal's right. it is a way of life, something that we, human being, need.
Please don't simply label us ALL MUSLIM as terrorist, just because of some minority extremist.
Thanks to God, I'm a muslim since i was born. Many converts said that, when they were losing their way in life, they tried and tried to seek for the truth, the purpose of their life. And then, after they find Islam, they are very grateful. And sure it is so wonderful.
Please, brother and sister, stop insulting our religion. We love our religion, and we love your religion. We love Jesus, we love Moses, and we love Muhammad.
By MYGH at 4:57 AM ON 11/05/09
Hey Everyone,
I am muslim and I respect every religion ,
Only because of people like us here politicians,Businessmen, Movie Maker ,Oil companies and others make money and try to make normal people disaggre so they make money out of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puWqNJI8Mjo
If you know politics u will know what i mean if not u will not udrestand me even i wrote pages for u.
By MrBill at 4:59 AM ON 11/05/09
whatever nuox012. kind of like the complete over throw of three major empires. like that kind of respect?
By Seymour at 5:02 AM ON 11/05/09
yes, my friends, Islam says to respect all religions, all people, everybody in the world regardless of race, gender and status. so, brothers, we should live in peace. that is what real Islam says. so, we, muslims love all the mankind....
By ahtmly2k at 5:04 AM ON 11/05/09
haha.. after reading most comments above.. this is just plain funny in my book.. u guys came up with some hilarious stuff on insulting Emmerich and Islam.
about being offended, who wouldn't be offended to see their "beloved" religious icons being destroyed..? But hey! It's entertainment!
but i agree, Emmerich should have just gone ahead destroying whatever he desired in his movie.. Look, I'm a Muslim, i'm also a graphic designer (visual communications and brand) and an artist, i support an artist's right to do whatever he/she pleases within his/her art. i'm very much against in any opinions to limit the freedom of speech and art. i think it's an insult towards intellectuality.
but then again, to give a "go ahead" or not on his movie, it is purely his decision. like all artists, we are responsible for our creativity, and being both an artist and graphic designer, i know the difference between pure art and commercial art.. and when your spending millions of dollars on a movie, you definitely have to consider all outcomes. we have to understand that this is a very commercial movie and not some independent movie. those are two very different things, aimed at very different audience and speak very different messages. this movie has to make maximum publicity, gain maximum profit and minimum critique.
personally, i preferred to see Mecca also destroyed "in the movie", i would love to see how the Muslim world would react to that scene (even if it is only for a few seconds). though i also think "that not all Muslims are extremists" (i know..), it sounds very hypocritical, and it probably is. i am a Muslim, and i live in Muslim country, i love my belief, but there is not a single moment where i would disagree to the ignorant, Islam-trashing, Bible-bashing comments up there.. because what they say about Muslims in general, i see in real life, in society, in front of me, every freakin' day.. and it makes me sick to my stomach, facing the fact that i am affiliated in a religion populated by uneducated, narrow-minded, hateful and fanatical piece of society God has given me. i think the Muslim-personality should be tested over and over again in order for them to be able to slowly adapt to the rest of the world (Note: the rest of the world, not only Western) and realize that different people have different opinions and we all have to be able to value and judge them individually and not by voting it up in some religious forums (this goes for you guys in the Catholic sides as well okay.. cause i've seen how extreme you guys can get too.. lol..).
for the Muslims that have read or written comments on this above. please, next time you guys post a comment, could you please write something more detailed and not only just preaching and reciting some verses from the Holy Qur'an?! being a Muslim is all about being an intelligent human being, there are a lot of things that u have to study within the Qur'an and not just by digesting it blindly before you can actually understand and accept it. if you want other people to understand Islam the way you do, then explain it in words and sentences that they can understand and relate to. No just by reciting verses after verses, or saying "Allah SWT is great!" over and over again, that won't win sympathy. Give reasons and understandings on why so.
For fellow Muslim-extremist-terrorists out there who reads this.. I know that the world could be a tough place for your kind to live, and I deeply understand for all of yous out there not wanting to live in the same world as these "westernizers".. But the next time ya'll plan to kill yerselves and yer fam'ly, ya might wanna try pills instead of bombs.. So that way ya'll won't disgrace the name of Islam and make things more difficult for other Muslims (like myself who actually enjoy living with different people and cultures from all over the world..).
Thank you, Peace and God be with you..
Ps. To people who hate religions out there.. I understand, but let's not be against people that do. If you guys think that believing in God is stupid, well then you better come up with smarter comments. Just like opinions, people are also entitled to believe in a higher power.
By Mandy at 5:05 AM ON 11/05/09
@Thanu
Thank you for saying everything on my mind. And @Abdool: You are a spoiled, whiny brat
By ahtmly2k at 5:14 AM ON 11/05/09
@Thanu - Ditto.. i wish my comment was as simple as yours.. haha..
@Mandy - Amen! (on commenting @Abdool) LMAO..!
By Marls at 5:20 AM ON 11/05/09
Seriously you were punked by a fatwa. If you feared for your life then why even destroy the other religious icons. Why even make a movie about the destruction of the world. I thought movies were fiction and not fact, if you are worried about being insensitive about the destruction of one religions icon but gladly trash another then whats the point of making a movie about the destruction of the world. Perhaps we should stop going to cinemas because they do not promote realism. Perhaps we should watch stage productions instead. seriously, punked by a Fatwa..
By Saif at 5:23 AM ON 11/05/09
The people who the extremists kill the most are the Muslims. Look at all the Muslims being killed by the terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. None of the Muslims recognize these fanatics as Muslims. They're just using the name of Islam to carry out their evil agenda. Now, Hitler was a Christian who killed millions of Jews. Does that mean Christianity endorses genocide? Of course not, Christianity is the religion of love (which is how Islam refers to it). Murderers and terrorists have no religion.
And for those who think Islam is against the other religions: The Quran calls Jews and Christians 'PEOPLE OF THE BOOK'. And in another verse, God says all the good people among the Muslims, Jews, Christians and other faiths will be rewarded by their Lord.
In fact, all Muslims love Jesus and believe in him and he has a very high position in our hearts.
So let's all live together in this world, follow our own religions (which are all true) and just do good works.
As for the movie, enjoy it, it's just a movie!
And for the record, it would probably have made more sense for none of the religous symbols being destroyed to avoid any controversy.
By ZAX at 5:26 AM ON 11/05/09
I'm a christian living in a muslim country.
Please recall the images of people's reaction all over the world right after 9/11 attacks on NY WTC. I remember clearly when CNN interviewed PLO chairman Yasser Arafat, (who was trying very hard to express his "condolences" to USA) the mob behind him was JUBILANT & REJOICING. The atmosphere in my country was not any different.. Please remember THAT !!!
For those US citizens who believe like Obama extending peace (being political correct) ... I would like to share the inside understanding of Mulim peace loving nature ..... when they extend / greet "a-salam -alaikom", their peace in their heart is meant for only believers (of thier own kind). That is the kinda peace they belive in. All others are still infidels .... Remember that!
Of course there are progressive and very civil muslim all over the world but It is their religious leadership that issues the fatwas... and it is up to the believers to obey them.
"organized religion" doesn't matter christian or muslim, both side of the fence has committed atrocities in the name of G*d thro-out history. We'll all be judged one day when it comes.
To my fellow Christians please temper ur words with salt as ur speech (although u have ur RIGHT to exercise it - under freedom of expresion in ur country & cyberspace) it is unbecoming of who U claim to represent. Also Christ have also hinted to us ... do not cast ur pearls before swine. Matt 7:6 & Be a light onto the world.
Only Way is HIS Way .. 4 the whole world, yes that includes the Arabs.... ARABS, JEWS & Gentiles, come together in YESHUA's name then will Real PEACE will prevail.... btw evangelism is truly the weapon of mass pacification. Can you envision one day in churches all over the world Arabs (please distinguish race vs religion) Jew & Gentiles worshipping the Messiah the True King!
You may end up standing next to one one day.
I have ... & in all places... Israel. Also some IRANIANS 2 in my church in a muslim country. Hallelujah!!!
(Keyword: God's Tsunami)
BTW I'm still going to watch this movie as entertainment not for theological lessons in eschtalogy. And yes it is also released in cinemas in a muslim country. Probably bcoz Rolond's strategy has paid off. Regardless of his religious or political views or whether he is a spineless & testicless liberal p.c.
By ossama bin ladin at 5:31 AM ON 11/05/09
allahhuakhbar....
this could turn up to be a fantatic film...
macca must not be distroy...
islam is a religion for piece...
By abdool at 5:32 AM ON 11/05/09
@Mandy
I'm a really bad bad boy...would you like to punish me?!
By ossama bin ladin at 5:37 AM ON 11/05/09
ALLAHHUAKHBAR...this could turn up to be a fantastic film...
macca must not be destroyed...
islam i a religion for peace..
By americana at 5:51 AM ON 11/05/09
You all need to be educated!!!!
How canyou blame americans for something Hitler did!!!!!!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mo did the same thing!
and I also think htat he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool.
By americana at 5:52 AM ON 11/05/09
You all need to be educated!!!!
How canyou blame americans for something Hitler did!!!!!!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mo did the same thing!
and I also think htat he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool.
By Tareq at 5:53 AM ON 11/05/09
People remember only the bad of others, never the good. Let us look back to the days when jesus was here, there was peace, now let us look back to the days when muhammad was here, there was peace, though they both may have lead different religions they both wanted peace, so I say lets work towards peace and fulfill thier duties.
By Very Serious Person at 5:57 AM ON 11/05/09
I just don’t think you people get it that the Kabaa was left intact for a sequel, a comedy in which the religions will unite as one and peace on earth will be restored. God, Satan and religious figures of all kinds will have a showdown in Mecca.
WARNING – spoilers ahead! Do not read if you are waiting for the sequel!
Robin Williams is supposed to return as that priest Father Frank in a Porsche, arriving in Mecca with the stereo blasting "Play That Funky Music White Boy"
God will be played by Whoopi Goldberg. Satan will be played by Woody Allen who keeps saying he's not a bad guy and says people are just anti-Semitic, in a thick New York accent when people are throwing stones at him, he says, "please don't break my glasses - they're Dolce and Gabbana!"
Steve Martin with a long white beard plays an Imam saying what a wild and crazy guy he is, and how he's looking forward to his 70 virgins, when he gets up to heaven Bruce Willis is there playing the angel, saying "I've got good news and bad news, the bad news is all the virgins are male, the good news is, I'm not a virgin!" In the background RuPaul starts singing "you better WORK!!!", as Dennis Rodman and Bill Cosby arrive in drag winking at Steve Martin. The camera cuts to Whoopi Goldberg as God saying to Prophet Mohammed, "I TOLD you all the virgins were drag queens but you WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!"
In the closing scene, the Dalai Lama and God incarnate smoke a bong together, and when God starts coughing and laughing at the follies of mankind, it shakes the Pyramids of Giza and everything man has made to their foundations. AT THIS POINT the Kabaa is the last thing on earth to come down. All that's left is two people standing where it was (Adam and Eve) and the earth is like it once was, a paradise with birds and butterflies and a snake in a tree and God chuckles and says "oops!" and it cuts to the credits.
By Tareq (thats my real name, please dont send hitmen too many people of them have already died) at 5:58 AM ON 11/05/09
You know whats a good idea, to tell those islamic terrorists to stop killing the innocent and try protecting the mousque in palestin. I mean if they really wanna fight for Islam cant they at least do that. And please dont judge islam or any other religion by its strict rules. Rules are there to stop people from doing bad things. If the punishment for murdering 1 man was death, then no one would murder, isnt that right. So be understanding.
By benj at 6:00 AM ON 11/05/09
yuck fou... osanas dim labin ...yuck fou.....ur tribe is the only tribe on earth who wrapped bombs around ur body and let it explode with ur fellow muslims around ......yuck fou
By True American at 6:04 AM ON 11/05/09
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives.
You all need to be educated!!!! Especially you Mussies!!!! The bible is the true book.
How can you blame Americans for something Hitler did!!!!!!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mo did the same thing!
and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
By Khaled Moustafa at 6:07 AM ON 11/05/09
this is wrong thinking but right choice
the religion is peaceful, yes, but as a Muslim
i find allot of people not realizing that make belief is mere fiction, and falls under creative thought
no harm is meant, and sooner or later bad things do happen in the name of religion whether they like it or not
be brave, but be wise !!
thank you
an open minded muslim
By bibi king at 6:12 AM ON 11/05/09
Yeah, no one wants to mess with the cheap jews because then they come and supported by the brits they will take your land and control the water, and the roads, and be violent just like Hitler did to them. And btw Hitler was not Christian you idiot.
By Uwey at 6:16 AM ON 11/05/09
I'm a muslim myself, but I don't think i mind that much if they decide to blow up the kaaba. not that i'm against anything, but if in reality god wanted something to happen (in this case, the whole world to destroy), hey it'll happen and most of the critical-thinking muslims will say the same thing
By True American at 6:19 AM ON 11/05/09
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives.
You all need to be educated!!!! Especially you Mussies!!!! The bible is the true book.
How can you blame Americans for something Hitler did!!!!!!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mo did the same thing!
and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
By nino at 6:24 AM ON 11/05/09
Why be afraid of fatwa if Islam preaches peace? It is the biggest lie of all if one says Islam is for peace. As somebody has opined: a good Moslem is a dead Moslem.
By Tareq at 6:25 AM ON 11/05/09
what i want to know is why people think the world will end in 2012. All the mayans said was that it would end when their three calenders ended on the same day. I mean lke, we have withstood roughly 5 times (i think) of those calenders meeting at the same time after jesus was born and i dont know how many other times before that. What are the chances that it would end. I believe that only when all religions are gone and no one does any good in the world, the world will be destroyed. For what is the point of the test on earth if everyone only does bad. God knows by that time no one will even reach heavans doors and would end peoples lives then and there.
By Shaw at 6:27 AM ON 11/05/09
I think everyone should calm down and be a little logical about this whole thing. In the past we all hated the Germans, the Italians, the Irish, the Jews, the Japanese etc. Now it's the Muslims' time to be hated because of the actions of a few of them. Islam is one of the hugest organized religions in the world, so every other person is a Muslim. No wonder they're so organized. Let's give them some time to adapt to the modern world. When you hate people, sooner or later you'll get hate back. And I feel Emmerich is right in his choice, because it's a matter of playing it safe.
And for the rest of you racist rednecks out there, I bet all your info's from TV. Get a life. Go meet normal, educated Muslims in your area. I've met quite a few, and they're against terrorism of any kind. Yeah, their own people do it, but the IRA are our people. Why do we disown them then? We just disagree with their philosophies. Oh, and the KKK too. Peaceful isn't it?
By bibi king at 6:32 AM ON 11/05/09
Religion should not be tampered with.
Yeah, no one wants to mess with the cheap jews because then they come and supported by the brits they will take your land and control the water, and the roads, and be violent just like Hitler did to them. And btw Hitler was not Christian you idiot.
By ahtmly2k at 6:35 AM ON 11/05/09
@Tareq
i don't mean to disagree with you but let me ask you this.
if death is the the punishment towards a murderer.. what about a suicide bomber? what do you think should be the appropriate punishment? surely they must be punished?
if God was perfect and he has already lay down rules for all imperfections of mankind, and you say that if the punishment was death then there wouldn't be any killings.. But what if the murderers were ready to die? Such as those crazy-lunatic suicide bombers.. What's to stop them from killing innocent victims?
Surely in their eyes no one's innocent, but is there anyone that's holy?
By rekin at 6:41 AM ON 11/05/09
The guy has got no nuts! Either do it for everyone, or for no one! I can see this happening in USA: they are discriminating the whites because they do not want to upset the blacks. Also, now they are mocking all the religions, but don't want to upset the arabs! Come on, guys! Get real! You should stop trying to be politically correct!
Good thing I am European!
By fayize at 6:44 AM ON 11/05/09
remember the worlds that ((there is agod for mecca and he will protect it)) these world were said befor the islam
By True American at 6:44 AM ON 11/05/09
How can you blame Americans for something Hitler did!!!! Try to come up with a better argument to defend the Islam!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mohumad did the same thing! and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking and then created a religion that he envisioned.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
Overtime you will all find out that the true antichrist is Islam.
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives.
You all need to be educated!!!! Especially you Muslems!!!! The bible is the true book. And the Kuran does not say to kill Gods creation!!!!!
IS IT UNDERSTOOD NOW?
By sh**t_on_allah at 6:46 AM ON 11/05/09
All muslims are terrorists..this is because they let their fellow muslims murder and say oh well allah is great..in the last month 32 mus's been arrested in the US for trying to kill people..
By RY at 6:51 AM ON 11/05/09
So let me understand this, fatwa is a religious opinion that carries a death sentence against whom it is written? Nice opinion, I like especially the fact that it kind of takes law into its own hands while covering up as a religious proclamation. And they are afraid of this thing so much that they would not alter the movie? This Muslim sh*t is unreal. and this director and his sidekick (bet he is Muslim) are both cowards.
Right, put that in the movie, show them you are afraid of their bogus religious cover up that they use to blow up their own people as well as indfidels.
I was looking forward to goign to see the movie, I think I will hold on to my money for now.
By dewey at 6:51 AM ON 11/05/09
hatersss!! lol... i know u non-muslims are jealous but, it's ok.
why don't u just join us if u don't want ur religion made fun of.
By tim217 at 6:52 AM ON 11/05/09
I agree with most of the comments here- these guys (director and writer) are out-and-out hypocrites and cowards for "sparing" the Kabba and taking everyone else's sacred sites. And I agree that there are better disaster flicks to see than this, at least they don't play religious favorites. How disgusting!
By mjcurrier at 6:53 AM ON 11/05/09
The whole concept of destroying landmarks is just a way to get people to react with emotional connections to the things they hold most important. The Catholic and Jewish faiths can handle these destructions because our God is not in a build but all around us. Islam is a more focused religion that relys heavily on its followers obeying the word down to the letter. For everyone that says only extermists are to blame, you may want to actually look at the Koran and see what even the moderates have to believe.
All religions have their own group of nuts, that is human nature and free will.
The only way to really tell Emmerich you don't agree with his belief is to not go and see the movie. To these type of people, money and fame are their gods. You have to burn down their temples to get them to listen to everyone else.
By True American at 6:55 AM ON 11/05/09
We wont join you Dewey. We dont want to be braiwashed and in a religion created by an illiterate.
By Getawayquick at 6:58 AM ON 11/05/09
I believe the Christian symbols were not destroyed in the film for one simple reason: When was the last time you heard of a Christian strapping a bomb to their bodies and blowing up anything? When was the last time a person had to go into hiding because a renegade Christian group threatened to kill them for a statement they made in book. Christians will boycott and speak out; however, they will not (in general) kill. I do think that Christians are growing increasingly weary of being the only group that is made fun of on TV shows and within the media on a regular basis. In fact, on the show House--Dr. House was goading a very heavy man to his face and the man replied, that fat people were the last group that could be made fun of without it being under the scrutiny of political correctness. Dr. House replied, no, there are the Christians. He nailed this. Hollywood is full of Jews, so it makes sense that the wailing wall was left alone. However, Christians are a very small minority, within the Hollywood circle of power. There have been killings in the past in the name of Christ, and this was a travesty in the name of a peaceful master. Christians are the first (behind the Red Cross) to arrive with relief in disasters. They have food and clothing banks in nearly every town in America. They meet in peace and YES they do evangelize, as this was a directive from Christ in the scriptures. However, many missionaires are killed every year, and many are in hiding. They are unable to let their own familes know where they are serving, due to the climate they are working within. Someone please correct me if I am wrong in my assumption that missionaries are not allowed to openly share Christ or the Bible with people in many Arab countries? That the small minority of Christians within these countries, much like the missionaries must hide their faith? What are they so afraid of? The love of Christ? Where are the Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Scientologists or Athesists, when a disaster strikes this country? I have yet to see the media show a Muslim or Hindu van full of food and water make its way to a tornado stricken area. Again, Christians have been stepped on for many reasons; however, I do believe "one day" in the not foreseable future, Christians will have enough. I do believe many Muslims want to be seen as peace loving people; however, I believe there is a verse in the Quran that talks about killing the unbeliever whereever you find them---I paraphrase. Every faith outside of the Muslim believe has to surely be considered an unbeliever. Emmerich is incredibly smart man, he didn't want to wake up one morning with his favorite stallions head in his bed, or worse a bomb.
By kabadass at 7:01 AM ON 11/05/09
Blue light special! Allah is now providing strap on bombs for $6.66 in isle three. Grab yours now. Also go to Ebay and bid on left over body parts from Isreal. Heads have a reserve price. If you join our religion of peace now get a free sword, knife, AK47, korannalan, portable dome shaped urinal, Obammas beeper number and 70 virgins
By Sadiq at 7:06 AM ON 11/05/09
This is how God protects Islam and its symbols.
By Tareq at 7:06 AM ON 11/05/09
For your information, when a christian wants to do something that christianity forbids them to do, they just make a new christianity group which allows them to. If you look through history you will see that some people made a new group from christianity just because they couldnt do something.
By zeke at 7:06 AM ON 11/05/09
I love these people that call him a wuss...like THEY would have the nads to do it!!! HA! He's not anti-religious...he just listened to advice from others that thought this scenario out a bit more. He's a silly director of a silly movie. Get over it.
By Lady Gaga at 7:08 AM ON 11/05/09
what the fish..!!!!
By True American at 7:11 AM ON 11/05/09
How can you blame Americans for something Hitler did!!!! Try to come up with a better argument to defend the Islam!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mohumad did the same thing! and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking and then created a religion that he envisioned.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
Overtime you will all find out that the true antichrist is Islam.
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives. You all need to be educated!!!! Especially you Muslems!!!! The bible is the true book. And the Kuran does not say to kill Gods creation!!!!!
By fayize((to true american with resbect)) at 7:12 AM ON 11/05/09
the true things are thing the muslem by which can kill other and these are so limit the role in islam that ((do not kill the self that the god forbed unless in truth)) self mean any man(((read the islam then give opoion)))
By xan at 7:15 AM ON 11/05/09
and now we see why i dont watch movies, first they cost too much, second they always piss someone off, and third i have to listen to hundreds of people whine about it for the next 6 months
all i can say is waaaaa to everyone, who effin cares what gets destroyed, its a FICTIONAL MOVIE
By religion is bad at 7:19 AM ON 11/05/09
i just stumbled on to this string of comments. once again we see how destructive religion is. the more fanatical the followers - the more violence you get.
STOP BEING SO FANATICAL ABOUT RELIGION. religion is for the weak. the weaker are the ones that become fanatics
By Tareq at 7:20 AM ON 11/05/09
xan, its a fictional movie that has made non-Islams accuse the Islams of being a anti-peace religion. So we(the Islams I mean) as Islams must stand up for what we believe in, at least we are not killing. Always remember the pen is mightier than the sword or nowadays, the keyboard is mightier than the missile with a nuclear warhead attached to it.
By joe at 7:21 AM ON 11/05/09
I have heard people here refer to ww1 or ww2 as christian crusades. When you include Russians(athiests),Japanese(Buddist's),middle east, Poland etc, I think the number of Christian's is about 1/4 of participants. How is that a crusade? Who started ww1 to start it all? Gavrilo Princip ,a Muslim.
By Tareq at 7:24 AM ON 11/05/09
Although you may say the weak are the ones who belive in religions, the truth is only the mighty can stand up for thier religion and still uphold the law of peace.
By Bob at 7:24 AM ON 11/05/09
Typical Hollyweird chicken s**t.
By Tareq at 7:26 AM ON 11/05/09
Try reading book like The Da Vinci code and The lost symbol, they really open your mind. These are books by Dan Brown.
By The_HERO at 7:26 AM ON 11/05/09
Man, ive never seen so much bs in my life. First of all i dont care what people think about Islam, because the truth is in plain site. Second, the kaaba is just a symbol, just a place to point to when we pray. Its been destroyed many times before, and it will be destroyed again, its not that big of a deal, but then again the world is ignorant
By Tareq at 7:28 AM ON 11/05/09
I kinda agree with The_HERO, welll the last part only. Its more like ignorance is the world rather than the world is ignorant.
By jaa at 7:29 AM ON 11/05/09
Its okay for the christians and jews here to say F**K Islam and all that because thats what this is all about, isnt it? Roland is a wuss because he says he doesnt want a price on his head but you can say all you want under pseudonyms from your homes and feel brave and courageous?
I cannot insult a religion because I am a Muslim. It is forbidden in Islam to do so. By the way, the people who bombed a girl's school in Khyber District were terrorists... I am from the area, I know who they are and none of the Muslims stand for their stupidity in the name of a cause. Islam allows women's education as has been mentioned in our Holy Book and various sayings of the Holy Prophet PBUH. I understand opening my mouth here means welcoming all sorts of comments from my christian and jew friends here.... but for once, sit back and read this.... apart from basic differences, all three religions are from the same source. You say Son of God and the Jews even call the God Elah. Do you really need to be sent a prophet to be told Elah is Allah (and yes that makes him in charge in all religions)? So, we say that David, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were beloved prophets of the Lord and you say some were Sons and the last and each religion stops at whoever was the Last according to them and disrespect the ones that followed?
Kaaba has been damaged and rebuilt post an earthquake and watching it destroyed by CGI should and would not make difference to the educated Muslim. Yes, the fanatics will lose their minds and call for 'fatwa' but then, why bother when Salman Rushdie is still roaming free, alive and kicking? Did Emmerich actually evade the unwanted negative publicity from the illiterate of our Muslim World when they start crying over the Kaaba destroyed by CGI when none including ur President would dare even touch it in reality? It is there, it was there, it will be there. That "lunchbox" is our place of prayer so show some respect. I dont remember calling the Basilica an orange-juice machine no matter how it looks like one.... :)
Please note, Islam is not a fanatic's religion, fanaticism comes from uneducation. Muslims are the third world if you look closely and all opportunities at good education and work-opportunities have been hijacked by the West. We are a 1400 year old religion that is still growing... 2000 years ago, Jesus taught you something and in the mid 40s, you still went and nuked poor Japan.... that means at 1950 years old, you were still savages that swung the club like barbarians. Before pointing fingers at Muslims, please allow another 450 years for us to reach your level of civilization....
By MH at 7:31 AM ON 11/05/09
actually what his co-writer did was right....
if he did that scene, then it would cause war.
because its Kaabah,the holiest place in Islam...
some of you people might not understand,,,
but if he did that then we,the muslim won't stand for that as it is insulting our religious...
the muslim people all around the world will unite together to against it no matter what...
it would cause a major riot all over the world. i do not know about other religious and i can't say anything about it...but i hope that all of you could respect Islam.
and i know that some of you all wanted it to happen,but i must remind you,if you do not want to cause world war 3,then don't even think about it,even dreaming about it... because we the muslim won't stand it....
By Tareq at 7:31 AM ON 11/05/09
let me ask a question to the Christians, if jesus is the son of God and has the powers of God what will happen if both Jesus and God want different things to happen? Wouldnt the world have been destroyed by now if that were the case.
By sitti at 7:35 AM ON 11/05/09
Well, I believe that most people reading this have a misguided idea of what a fatwa is. Fatwa is not an Islamic term to describe a law pronouncing a death sentence for someone who is a blasphemer. In fact, it an opinion of a 'knowledgeable person' under certain qualifications set up by a Muslim society on issues regarding the faith.
As time revolves a lot of new things pop up that are not present during the time of Muhammad. To be flexible and up to date these issues need to be settled. Look the word up.
And the Kaaba is not only an Arabic symbol. It means a lot to all Muslims under all sorts of nationalities. Not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are Arabs. Well, 'certain Muslims' have a way at acting irrationally and unIslamicly violent about things that they don't agree with. So, it's best to take precautions.
Overall, I'm looking forward to watching 2012.
By Tareq at 7:37 AM ON 11/05/09
jaa i actually used my own name and to show that I'm not afraid though I might be kill , I'm gonna tell my adress. No. 19 Piasau Camp, 98000 Miri, Sarawak. (,Malaysia, East Asia). My name is Muhammad Tareq Azim. Anyone who uses this information to do bad, well I hope they get what they deserve in the end, because we all will get what we deserve one day. And what we deserve will be eternal.
By jaa at 7:39 AM ON 11/05/09
as an afterthought... let me add, Islam is a very vast religion, which gives guidance on everything including politics, economy, medicine.... a complete way of life and society and state. The reason it is feared from coming up and taking over is that it will render communism and capitalism and all other systems that have failed (and the recession is an example) obsolete and prove their founders and all that stood for it wrong.
In fact, truth is, the elements of terrorism in the name of Islam are actually West-induced... see how the were no WMDs but these non-existant WMDs helped Bush get into Iraq? see how Osama (a Saudi by birth) was blamed for 9/11 and then used as a means to enter Afghanistan? The extremists in Muslim Countries might be on Western Intelligence Agencies payroll (at the least the brainwashers are) to pave way for the west to take over the Mid East.
Its like a film.... Saddam with WMD = Sauron... Bush the President = Aragorn.
Osama/Al Qaeda = Spectre.... Bush the President = James Bond....
Like they said in MI2, to make a hero, you give him a villain first "so in our search for the hero Bellerophon, we created the villain, Chimera"....
By religion is bad at 7:41 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq, “only the mighty can stand up for their religion”.
If we destroyed the kaaba in a film, if we defaced a picture of the prophet mohammad, if there is a danish cartoon about the prophet, ….all these are taken as insults and a fatwa is ordered? LIGHTEN UP man !
These things are intended to make a point, to make you laugh, or for satire. If the muslims would lighten up about their religion, then the non-muslim world would not react the way they do. I think it is very shallow and immature for these things to be taken as an insult.
By xan at 7:44 AM ON 11/05/09
to getawayquick
perhaps you should open your eyes more
and for your your information the ICRC (international committee of the red cross) is a neutral organization not tied to any religion
the cross is not there because of Christianity
"The red cross and red crescent emblems are universally recognized symbols of assistance for the victims of armed conflicts and natural disasters. In use since the nineteenth century, these emblems unfortunately do not always enjoy the respect to which they are entitled as visible signs of the strict neutrality of humanitarian work. Moreover, certain States find it difficult to identify with one or the other. "
taken from the ICRC website
http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/emblem?OpenDocument
if the ICRC were a christian organization they would not be able to a third of what they do across the world
By armieo at 7:44 AM ON 11/05/09
this fag needs to grow some balls that his boyfriend can go suck.
By zz at 7:44 AM ON 11/05/09
OMG! wow! im glad they didnt destroy the kaa'ba cuz i would be going to my imam at my church and saying "dude! they destroyed the kaa'ba!". Anyways i sooo wanna see that movie! it looks awesome and the trailer is spectacular!
By ahtmly2k at 7:46 AM ON 11/05/09
blablabla!!! muslim this muslim that.. christian this christian that.. and so on and so forth.. this is getting borring people.. it's just a f**king movie! either you watch it or you dont! no one's gonna give a crap if you don't anyway.. why does this hafta be a religious debacle..?!
ALL of you are such narrow-minded animals! Go hang (or inhale that bug spray) yourselves and give civilization a break!
A bunch of losers! I can't take it anymore! I'm gonna go out to the cinema, watch a movie and cool off!!!
AAAAAARRRGGGGHHH!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
By Cross Keepers at 7:47 AM ON 11/05/09
from his comments, we can realize that he is a silly uneducated person who takes from his movies a tool to spread more hate against Christian symbols. it is really funny that he didn't want to destroy "Kabba" because of a useless "fatwa" could be issued by mindless Islamic terrorists.
if he knows what really Islam hides for him and for all the innocent & peaceful people, whatever their religion, he will make "Kabba" as the first landmark to be destroyed and to be disappeared from the whole universe.
who really care to go deeper in Islam and to read carefully about this religion, the one will find himself in front of a religion has nothing to call, except only killing, stealing, lying , destroying all the valuable principles of life by the name of "Allah & his liar Mohamed".
So, we would like to advise this person that Christianity will never be destroyed as you are doing in your movies, Christianity is stronger million times than any movie or any other one could attack it.
be sure that ISLAM is coming to eat and burn every single green thing and dream in our lives if we will not stand strong against this monster that takes a face of a sheep.
By Tareq at 7:47 AM ON 11/05/09
I wanna say to those who are about to post. PLEASE LOOK UP THE MEANING OF FATWA BEFORE POSTING. And don't just say that Islam is a bad religion and what not with no solid evidence. If you anger the bull you get its horns is what they say. Yet still that is what some of you have done, and that is why I am trying to tell you that Islam is a peaceful and loving religion. I am just trying to prevent misunderstandings.
By Salacious Crumb at 7:49 AM ON 11/05/09
Director: "Everyone else will get that it is fiction. The only religion filled with enough senseless crazies to make me truly afraid is Islam."
Yahoo Interviewer Crow: "The director set his SITES [sic] on destroying some landmarks..."
No, he set his *SIGHTS* on destroying some landmarks.
CAN I PLEASE HAVE THE HIGH-PAYING JOB THAT ALLOWS RETARDED SPELLING ERRORS LIKE THAT ONE THROUGH *ALL* *THE* *TIME*?
By Tareq at 7:52 AM ON 11/05/09
Great job Salacious lets change the topic so people will stop talking about religions. Have you ever notices how some theaters are over-priced?
By True American at 7:52 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq:
God is the father, son, and holy spirit at the same time; therefore they don’t have disagreements!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mohumad did the same thing! He married a kid, and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking and then created a religion that he envisioned.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
Overtime you will all find out that the true antichrist is Islam.
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives. You all need to be educated!!!! The bible is the true book. And the Kuran does not say to kill Gods creation, which is beautiful (Al Halek, halekuhu jameel)!!!!!
By True American at 7:53 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq:
God is the father, son, and holy spirit at the same time; therefore they don’t have disagreements!!!!
As for the catholic priests, Mohumad did the same thing! He married a kid, and I also think that he corrupted the true word of God, he just modified it to his liking and then created a religion that he envisioned.
The idiot could not even read!!!!!!! So the wife helped that illiterate fool because he could not do it on his own as the impotent man that he was. He was so impotent that he had to marry a child. He was MARRIED WITH CHILDREN----LOL!!!!!!!
Overtime you will all find out that the true antichrist is Islam.
The movie should be boycotted period. Not a good plot. There are plenty of destruction movies out there as alternatives. You all need to be educated!!!! The bible is the true book. And the Kuran does not say to kill Gods creation, which is beautiful (Al Halek, halekuhu jameel)!!!!!
By joe at 7:55 AM ON 11/05/09
I won't pick on anyone in particular ,cause I don't wan't to get banned. Some men have relations with women only to have kids. The rest of the time they have relations with dirty,hairy,smelly men....Or they just rape little girls like MHMD.
By Ike at 7:55 AM ON 11/05/09
Well, all i can say is that the director/producer left the moslem out because it is the only source the distruction will finally come to man. Any man who is hurt innocent people included women and children is surely the most dangerous of all
By zz at 7:56 AM ON 11/05/09
has anyone noticed that we're all arguing about the "right" religion? i just did.. and um.. believe what u believe but dont tell others they r wrong. just saying...... :Þ
By religion is bad at 7:56 AM ON 11/05/09
i don't like religion. nothing good has come out of religion - this is obvious from this string of comments.
My suggestion is this: all Christians stay in Christian countries. All muslims stay in muslim countries. If Christians go to a muslim country, then you adapt to their customs and dress up like them. Likewise, if muslims go to Christian countries, then you adapt to their customs and dress up like them. FAIR ENOUGH?
Stop using this “you don’t understand us business”. If you come to our country, we have no obligation to understand you. The onus is on the newcomer to be understood, not the other way around !!
By xan at 7:58 AM ON 11/05/09
when my daughter takes over the world all religions will be banned punishable by death
organized religion is the biggest crime ever committed
By Tareq at 7:59 AM ON 11/05/09
If all three are one than why do they have to be seperated as three. Why does god need to show himself to those who are deemed so unworthy that he is forced to create a new religion, for the greatest gift we can recieve from god himself is to see his majesticness(I made the word up but it fits quite well). Why go through crusification if he is the son of god, If he truly is the son than why not stop himself from being crusified. This shows that if the son can be killed, so can the father. How can he be Al-Mighty if he can be killed? And if he can be killed than surely he was born. So if he was born than who created him?
By zz at 7:59 AM ON 11/05/09
if u people keep telling others they are wrong then that is going to start a war. obviously. if u aren't Muslim and have a problem with the kaa'ba being destroyed then go and ask someone who is Muslim about the dude who tried to destroy the kaa'ba a looong time ago and i mean the dude who got pelted with stones from birds. he also rode on elephants. and died. again. just saying.
By Ike at 8:00 AM ON 11/05/09
I mean any man who will not think twice to blow himself up killing women and children in the name of religion is the most dangerous of all. Stupid religion....it is all about brainwashing
By jaa at 8:00 AM ON 11/05/09
@Tareq, my name is JAA (the initials anyway)... I AM afraid so you will not get more info than this... never know I wake up tonight with Feds of CIA flashing torches in my face in my own bedroom... I got wife and kids man..... so you see, our terrorists are terrorists to you, your intrelligence agencies are worse to us..... :D
@MH, no the Muslims will not wage WW3 because Emmerich destroyed the Kaaba thru CGI... they never started nuking Danes for the darned drawings did they? It would have been a movie that the Muslim World would ban, some brainwashed or brainwashers would demand Emmerich be beheaded, he would roam with lots of security for 10 years, but survive (like Rushdie) and would issue an apology for it as well.... thats about it....
By True Nature at 8:00 AM ON 11/05/09
Not cool! I'm NOT a religious person at all, but I find it objectionable that the director found it easy to destroy and crap on every religion except Islam... Weak! Lame! Just like a bully picking on the kid that can't fight back. Despicable... Show some character... I have no problem with doing anything within freedom of speach, but be EVEN-HANDED. Not whimp out...
By Tareq at 8:02 AM ON 11/05/09
I am sorry zz but I think I have just said what you have told us not say. and xan, are you following the xan from dragonfable, just wanting to know?
By Tareq at 8:05 AM ON 11/05/09
I hope you are refering to yourself when you said not whimp out True Nature, you're not even using your real name. (I think we may all asume that that is true)
By joe at 8:05 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq, what new religion. Jesus stated"I have not come to change one iota of the law, but only to add to it". Your cult didn't come along until 666 years later.
By xan at 8:06 AM ON 11/05/09
havent played DF in long time, didnt know there was a xan eheh
seriously though, i will take over the world, pass it to my daughter, and religion will be erased from society
yes i sound crazy but time will show you all the path i walk is the right one
i dont care which religion is right, or if they all are
more people have been murdered, raped, had lives destroyed. homes taken away, families torn apart and lives made insufferable in the name of religion then cancer will ever effect
By HSN at 8:06 AM ON 11/05/09
I posted one comments against this article but cannot accepted by auther
discrimination
By handlebar at 8:08 AM ON 11/05/09
He is right not to go forward with this. I wouldn't want fatwa on my name either. People who are calling him wuss actually wouldn't do it either. No job worth dying. Solman rushdie guy is scare for his life even today. People are watching him and when right moment arrive he will be gone. I don't like religion but people kill each other over parking spot or women or sports game or anything that is dear to them. I mean if i'm going to call a black man the N word i should be expecting a bullet somewhere. No job worth dying for. Gov't is F ing everyone but no one is taking any action who is a real wuss.
By Love God at 8:08 AM ON 11/05/09
Boycott the movie. Don't support Emmerich. The only good thing about him not touching the Muslims that he is so afraid of is that maybe the movie is correct. Maybe when the earth is destroyed as it soon will be that all the Christians and other true religions will go to heaven and be with God while the Muslims will be left behind to rot in hell for eternity in their precious buildings.
By Tareq at 8:10 AM ON 11/05/09
Maybe if you try harder you will find that Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. was doing roughly the same, but instead of adding to it, he fixed and improved it to the way it is supposed to be. and Islam began on AD633 when it is said (through what I have found on the internet) That Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. was first visited by an angel.
By religion is bad at 8:11 AM ON 11/05/09
Xan, I would not say go so far as to say religion is the biggest crime ever committed….it makes it look like there was a plot, or some intelligence behind it !
In fact I think religion is the MOST STUPID thing every invented. Some over zealous men who thought of themselves as prophets (Moses, Jesus, Muhammad), and some morons who followed them grew in number, and eventually it became a religion. Now look at what these religions are doing to the people of the world?!!!
Maybe the fanatics would realize one day….how this is just one big con job. there is no god ! and if there really is a god...he/she would do a better job of communicating the truth to people - something he has obviously failed at.
By Chris Mallon at 8:12 AM ON 11/05/09
You & you're Jewish? I believe co-writer are absolute cowards who allowed those animals to scare you into compromising your 'so-called' creativity.Thank God the Great Men & Women in this Greatest of all Nations' Military are not as cowardly as you are.These bloodthirsty cowards could 'terrorize' you just for saying you"wanted to do it.I really did".Your talking about a damned thing in the middle of some tyrannical city that they throw rocks at.C'mon give me a break.You should've included that & the dome of the rock.You allowed the swine they 'claim' to not eat to defeat you.So sad,I'm sorry for you.
By xan at 8:15 AM ON 11/05/09
religion is bad
there is a plot with religion
its called world domination
im out to show the world you dont need religion for that
By ohioboyz66 at 8:17 AM ON 11/05/09
i'll tell you all the truth i was aex pastor of a huge church one of many pastors folks it's all a lie to get your money i've seen so much wrong behind close doors and heard what pastors really think of the people sitting in the church i walked away the quaran was written by the devil as well as the bible because it's all evil it's time to wake up and live in the real world-if you want to help those in need don't give your money to your church because it's a lie your pastors will enjoy your money how many of you sit in church and pray for god's help and it dose not come? how many of you see people in your church that is in real need and yet your pastor lives a great life not wanting for anything? none of this is about a god it's about man getting rich from his fellow man look into your hearts and you'll know i speak truth
By Tareq at 8:17 AM ON 11/05/09
When truth was given to you, you ignored it. How can you say that God has failed in giving the truth when you yourselves have failed in accepting it? The truth shall be revealed to me should actually be the truth has been revealed and all you need to do is accept it. For the truth is the most powerfull thing in the world. many people seek power but do not realize that power is actually gained by accepting the truth.
By dad at 8:20 AM ON 11/05/09
gutless is gutless no matter. everyone put your money where your mouth is and do not go to the movie.
By wakeuppeople at 8:21 AM ON 11/05/09
Give me a frickin' break jdmimic- "Christian terrorists" . Thos darn Christian terrorists that stand outside of abortion clinics and hold signs trying to convince women not to kill their babies- WOW! Those are the worst terrorists of all -- OK! If there were "Christian terrorists who made a systemic effort to kill abortion doctors there would be a lot more abortion doctors killed than one. One whacko who killed a doctor does not make a whole group of "Christian terrorists". The fact that you can not see the difference between real terrorists (Muslim extremists) and people who peacefully try to stop the mass murder of innoncent babies is unbelievably pathetic!
By The Truth at 8:22 AM ON 11/05/09
Good way to take care of all these problems, exterminate all Muslims, Christians and Jews. Religion is a joke that has been played on everyone of you rubes.
There is no god, never has been, never will. Now go fuck yourselves.
By ohioboyz66 at 8:23 AM ON 11/05/09
islam came after the stoof christ so it's just a differnt twist to the same story and fools follow it to dealth.stop the wars and killing for somthing that never was
By bewitch at 8:23 AM ON 11/05/09
NOTHING WRONG WITH ORGANIZED RELIGION. SOMETHING WRONG WITH ROLAND AND HAROLD.U BOTH DETROY THE WORLD, WHY NOT THE KAABA. FATWA IS JUST IN UR MIND. TO BE FAIR CANT YOU DESTROY EVERYTHING IN YOUR NEXT MOVIE EVEN THE LEAD ACGTORS.
By religion is bad at 8:25 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq, there is only one truth. If there is disagreement, then it is not the truth.
When something is truly black, then all will agree that is it black. No one will say it is blue, or dark blue, or indigo, or midnight blue. No. if it is really black, then all will say it is black. If some say it is blue,…then I would say it is maybe black, or maybe blue. That means, the real color is not established.
If muslims believe in one thing, and Christians see it another way, and jews another way, and hindus another way yet again….where is the truth? You can’t all be right. But you can all be wrong !!
Maybe the color was neither black nor blue.
if islam is the truth you would want to believe it to be.....you would not be angry about christians trying to convert muslims to christianity.
By ohioboyz66 at 8:25 AM ON 11/05/09
organized religion should be seen as a crime against all people
By Lretarmy at 8:28 AM ON 11/05/09
I get tired of everyone kowtowing to the lovers of a pedophile. Mohamad created and altered his "religion" to fit his wants and needs. So everyone is afraid to insult islam but the followers of islam don't care who they insult or offend. Won't be long with this attitude we will all have to face mecca 5 times a day or have your head cut off. Grow a pair.
By ohioboyz66 at 8:29 AM ON 11/05/09
for true peace to work we need to do away with religion
By religion is bad at 8:29 AM ON 11/05/09
i agree. make organised religion a crime against the people. anyone who organises religion should be sent to israel and palestine as their punishment.
hahahaha
By Sanity at 8:31 AM ON 11/05/09
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH EVERYONE. THEY ARE ONLY MODEL BUILDINGS CRUSHED BY A SCI FI FILM. IT ISN'T REAL.
By religion is bad at 8:31 AM ON 11/05/09
anyone caught organising religion should be sent to either jerusalem, or the west bank, or to mecca as their punishment for life.
that's where their religion started. so send them all there.
hahahha
By ohioboyz66 at 8:31 AM ON 11/05/09
it would be great to start with the pope on a rope lol
By Tareq at 8:34 AM ON 11/05/09
To everyone, I have seen that nowadays darkness is shrouding the truth and while that darkness is there, it seems like I cannot help you realize the truth that I believe is true. For now I shall just use the method that is as weak as my Iman (I'm trying to translate from Bahasa Malaysia because my Islam teks book in that language)(In my textbook it says selemah-lemah Iman), which is to hope that one day I can try again to spread truth. This is as weak as my Iman because it will only help me. Good night. (its night here). I wont be posting again. Besides tomorrow i have last day of exams. Have to study.
By ohioboyz66 at 8:34 AM ON 11/05/09
the film isn't real but the killing in a gods name is real and we need that to stop
By joe at 8:36 AM ON 11/05/09
Tareq, did you say fixed and improved it? How is raping defenseless children an improvement over the tranquility of Jesus Christ?
By religion is bad at 8:36 AM ON 11/05/09
they would all be in heaven would they not? praying 100 times a day in their sacred cities? maybe that is not a punishment. but send them all there anyway. they just create trouble every where else they go.
hahaha....what a thought....
all these people standing up for their religion
By ohioboyz66 at 8:37 AM ON 11/05/09
it's been all the lies shoved into our minds as truth that has caused all the darkness my friend
By bengaltigerrex at 8:39 AM ON 11/05/09
OK! so I read all the comments about how it was not a good decision on his part by not destroying Mecca!
Before i say anything, I am muslim myself, I think I would be fine if It was seen being destroyed, after all IT IS A F**KING MOVIE. But please remember there are those of us who just dont get it and not up to the par, So it was a good idea. and 'love' how all muslims are potrayed here. someone said only pirated copies will make it to those countries(if that)...dude they watch some movies before even it gets released in States. Do your research. Ultimately if the whole world suppose to be destroyed(referring to the movie) why leave anything out? Its a movie get over urself. And Love how it became a religion issue and f*ck all the muslim issue...yeah that makes you guys very modern and up to the par.
By vee at 8:41 AM ON 11/05/09
If this guy is too frightened to destroy the islam kaa'ba then he should have saved christianity too. Its the biggest insult to christians and will only encourage weak people that are influenced by tv and films to turn to islam. I am one amongst millions that wont watch this film for that reason. What was he thinking about? saving his own head might have destroyed many others.
By religion is bad at 8:42 AM ON 11/05/09
good on ya ohioboyz66 !
it's good to see there are people like you.....hehe...who can see thru all this nonsense.....all these fatwas and body bombs and ...........aaaaarrgh..violence
By Mcrorvr at 8:42 AM ON 11/05/09
If you show this in Islamic countries and only Mecca is not destroyed, aren't you saying to them"Look only Islam stands tall", WTG giving them more false belief that they are the only true religion. Nice going Jackazz!
By elep at 8:44 AM ON 11/05/09
It was to cowriters idea, NOT Roland Emmerich's!!!
By ohioboyz66 at 8:44 AM ON 11/05/09
i spent most of my life in the middle east and i've seen both side's and i've come to see they both are wrong fighting in a gods name is wrong after seeing what really happens in churches my eyes opened up and i knew it was a huge lie
By Freedom at 8:46 AM ON 11/05/09
As for Hollywood, the terrorists (Islamic extremists) have won.
As for religion, it has become a distraction from the truth.
As for the truth, God is a perfect God, humans are not perfect and therefore to be with Him need to be saved from our imperfection. Our deeds (including religions) simply do not reconcile us with Him, only faith in a Savior can do that. There is only one of those that has been offered to the world. The choice is ours and we are free to choose. That is a great deal.
As for me, I know exactly where I'm going when my work is done here. Hope to see you there. Have a great day.
By ohioboyz66 at 8:48 AM ON 11/05/09
if you believe in a god that is noy real how is that freedom
By bengaltigerrex at 8:48 AM ON 11/05/09
LOL-what i meant some movies do get realeased (in theaters)in wealthy middle east country....before states...
By sacrididentity at 8:48 AM ON 11/05/09
America, please find your backbone
By bengaltigerrex at 8:49 AM ON 11/05/09
LOL-what i meant some movies do get realeased (in theaters)in wealthy middle east countries....before states...
By screwedblueandtattooed at 8:51 AM ON 11/05/09
i have new ink work done,, Christ making Muhammad TAP OUT ,,,,,
By religion is bad at 8:51 AM ON 11/05/09
sacrididentity......what do you mean?
"backbone" has many connotations
By Freedom at 8:53 AM ON 11/05/09
To : ohioboyz66
I am free to choose, and so are you.
Having chosen, I'm free from death.
It's a faith thing, you may not be able to understand but I hope you will someday.
By Foxtruth at 8:54 AM ON 11/05/09
This fool has no balls in using a mulam symbol being destroyed what a coward, and so what there just muslims is like they are. Going to do their battle cry before they blow themselfs up.
By yuscared? at 8:57 AM ON 11/05/09
The Terrorists have won everyone in America is scared to death of them. Grow some balls!!
By joe at 8:57 AM ON 11/05/09
for everyone who is so dumb to think that the mid-east is about religious war, the Muslims sided with the kaiser, then with Hitler, all about assisting oil and energy.
By Andrie at 8:57 AM ON 11/05/09
@vee: ask your pope to declare fatwa then...
anyway this is not about religion or whatsoever..its about money...there is no use to make a movie about destroyed ka'ba because Islamic countries will ban the movie..it can make a huge loss...
By Jobin at 8:59 AM ON 11/05/09
I'm sure many of you must know that this director is being disingenuous and taking the piss... Come ON. No one would pay attention to his film otherwise! Who cares about this poo movie? If the Kaaba could talk it'd be like "Whaa? I'm not in *what* movie? Okaaay..." It's more disrespectful to suggest that the Kaaba wants to be included and wasn't. It's not like Hollywood has a cultural conscience anyway. Why would you expect one now? Everything out of this man's mouth is rubbish. As a moviegoer, I could care less what happens to this stupid family-- precisely the kind of family who thinks they need to get somewhere faster than I do on the 10 Freeway. If the Kaaba were in the film, I'd hope it would be carried away by a tsunami and somehow land on this family. Sigh. We can always hold out for "2013-- Kaaba's Revenge"
There are alot of facts this director can't get straight! Local geography for one. Religious opinion on a disaster movie where the Randy's Donuts donut rolls through Santa Monica is more likely to be about how Randy's is in Inglewood and this film doesn't feature a family from Inglewood. What about *my* house?? Directors want all the landmarks and none of the burden! We are just invisible people getting buried in the rubbish!
I can't believe I'm wasting my time commenting on this. You're wasting your time reading it.
By Ava at 8:59 AM ON 11/05/09
The muslims get fear, but no respect in the western world. They act like animals, kill and shoot people when disagree. In the West we explain and convince others, the muslims eliminate the opponents.
By medvan at 9:06 AM ON 11/05/09
I read most of the posts and I just shake my head in disgust, it's aimed at Islam. If I had it my way, after 911 I would have had a drone fire a hellfire missle at that stupid cube holding what, a freaking meteor the muslims believe is a "piece of god", or what a chunk of the moon? Whatever they believe it is and whatever it really is, Islam is a sick fuked up religious form of government, it's backwards, repressive..........is there anything good about it? NO Isn't it sad Hollywood can't make a movie how they really want to because these backwards idiots called muslims might kill one of them, think about it this way.......in a disaster movie where everything else is destroyed and the cube that holds the rock muslims worship isn't destroyed, that just encourages the muslims more, it will assist them in their false belief that their Islamic Allah is really the one and only god.
By religion is bad at 9:07 AM ON 11/05/09
sacrid identity....when you say "find your backbone" do you mean go and become rigid and inflexible? or do you mean find a way to be ruled by a dictator?
are you implying that we should be like you?
By daywatcher at 9:10 AM ON 11/05/09
Did Mr. Emmerlich destroyed only Christian, Budist, (wanted to destroy Muslim) landmarks. Did he destroyed any jews landmarks as well?
Or because sponsors of the movie would take their money (offended by destroying their religion landmarks) out. I saw move trailer and seems it more like a computer game. Main heroes getting out unscathed when millions dying in front of their eyes. Such lame cra**p! Is this what type of move main audiences requiring now? We are degrading people, it's so sad. And if you willing to pay $8-$12 to see such retarded movie, than you guys been taking for a ride by bunch of crooks.
By Ana at 9:10 AM ON 11/05/09
Destroying Jewish Holly Sites in Jerusalem will cause destruction of Christian and Muslim Holly sites as well. They all located within a few hundred feet from each other.
By Jeff Allen at 9:14 AM ON 11/05/09
What a pu55y
By Mankind at 9:21 AM ON 11/05/09
The One True Religion Of Abraham, Moses , Jesus, and Muhammad p.b.u.h is ISLAM
By ROSS at 9:22 AM ON 11/05/09
meglio che lui si distrugga il suo..... nel 2012.
nessuno gli aveva chiesto di dire le cose che aveva salvato. è l'immagine della stupidità.
meglio spendere i dollari per una pizza.
By PLEASE at 9:23 AM ON 11/05/09
ronald is ONE of the few devils in this world who always raises and practice bad issues...instead of try to bring peace and spread love in the world...
EAT SHIT AND DIE PLEASE LEAVE THIS WORLD IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU ARE...
By Ab at 9:23 AM ON 11/05/09
Are you really kidding me? Seriously, you people lack the intelligence to even step back and rethink Islam. Firstly, he only attacks Christians not Jews. Catholics should be upset about it. Everyone has a right to be upset about something, thought to be holy, is destroyed. You are a bigot, who does not understand the religion. Think about it: If you believe that a prophet of God built the Kaaba, and that all must face it in prayer from all over the world, would you want its essence to be destroyed? Fine, the director is an atheist, but that is no reason for those of you who are also atheist to attack the religion as if you are the source if all wisdom. A fatwa is a religious ruling regarding the adherence to Islam. What people do is not representative of the religion! Check it out. I dare you.
By TINEEEE at 9:23 AM ON 11/05/09
If I were this director, I would have done the same. I am a Christian but I choose not to offend the Muslims. It's not about religionism but the fact that Muslims have a great and deep respect for their Kaaba. They were born and raised with ethnocentric beliefs and we just have to respect that. It’s like culture. We respect each other’s culture to live harmoniously in this world. Nevermind that it is very pagan but the purpose is basically to just respect. I mean, we all have stuff we value and we don't want people disrespecting that. So I guess if we know that Muslims will get offended if we destroy their Kaaba in a movie, then better opt out of that idea. Why would you deliberately offend them? What worth is it? To be a bully? Especially us Christians, we are not called to condemn.
I am a Christian and I am also anti-religion. Religion is what draws people away from the truth. Religion is what makes fanaticism, radicalism and extremism. People who call themselves Christian and yet engage in these things should go back to the bible and understand the teachings of Jesus. I’m not saying that we should stand around and do nothing while evil things perpetuate around us. Because as Christians, we have more powerful spiritual tools at our disposal. God moves.
Us Christians will not be bothered about Christianity symbols crashing down because earthly things are not what matters to us. However, I will not see this movie because I will not support a blatant declaration of anti Christianity (not ‘anti-religion’). I mean, it will be of no worth to my spirit. Cheers!
By ROSS at 9:24 AM ON 11/05/09
meglio che lui si distrugga il suo..... nel 2012.
nessuno gli aveva chiesto di dire le cose che aveva salvato. è l'immagine della stupidità.
meglio spendere i dollari per una pizza.
By Mankind at 9:24 AM ON 11/05/09
Islam is The One true religion
By religion is bad at 9:24 AM ON 11/05/09
mankind......how can be so sure?
are saying this as the absolute truth....or is this just your opinion? or just your belief?
By echoes at 9:27 AM ON 11/05/09
I am beginning to know the religion of Islam and it is really quite impressive… They give only respect to God, because they feel that as believers they have the responsibility to as much as possible prevent the desecration of the holiness and greatness of Allah by showing the Kaaba in Macca being destroyed (they believe it was built by Abraham and Ismael as ordered by Allah (God). This should be done by Christians too, defend their beliefs..
By ThereIsNoGod at 9:27 AM ON 11/05/09
Bah. Muslims are a bunch of pu$$ies who don't want anyone thinking for themselves. Free will gets in the way of their world domination. F#ck 'em if they can't take a joke.
By bboy 1 at 9:28 AM ON 11/05/09
Wow, i find it absolutely amazing how everyone is on the anti Islam front again. Seems like this day and age you only have to whisper the word Muslim and all the zealots come out of the woodwork. Let's get one thing straight,there is no way that a fatwa would have been placed on the film makers head's especially due to the fact that in the film numerous other religious landmarks were destroyed. Admittedly ,if it was a case of only the kaaba been destroyed there may have been some kind of outcry...This whole thing stinks of once again the people behind the scenes trying to stir up animosity and hatred between Muslims and the rest of the world. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!! this is getting boring...Oh yes,in response 2 lretarmy...Have u actually got a brain?"mohammed created and altered his "religion" to fit his wants and needs"...ummm think about what you are saying...What men of today's time do you know who would remain poor all their lives when they have the opportunity to be rich, pray more times than he ordered for his followers to do,1)more consistently 2) also behind closed doors ( as witnessed by his wives).He was the best example of somebody who 'actually'practised what he preached, unlike our present leaders who tell us 2 eat less,breathe less,drink less,have less children,spend less whilst they do exactly the opposite laughing their little cotton(umm...maybe silk) socks of...all the way 2 the banks...God gave us all brains 2 use them...not 2 just chat pure pap.
By religion is bad at 9:28 AM ON 11/05/09
to make a claim that islam is the one true religion is to claim that the other religions are false.
i just find this too arrogant and shallow.
anyway, mankind...you are entitled to your opinion
By echoes at 9:33 AM ON 11/05/09
Muslims do believe with JESUS!!! Who are among you don't know that?!!
By APerson at 9:34 AM ON 11/05/09
You people are ignorant saying it's because he's scared or a wuss. Also, those of you that are exclaiming that Muslims would take it more seriously and issue death threats obviously know nothing. You cannot judge an entire religion from a small group of people. What's that called? stereotyping? prejudice? It's like judging all Christians from Nazi's ideals of the Christian faith. Or all Catholics from Spanish Inquisitors. Plus you have no idea the deep religious value of the Kaaba to the Islamic faith, look it up and you might understand. It's a more important structure to them than the Vatican is to the Catholics because of the meaning. That's right, curse everyone that is trying to culturally sensitive!
By theinfidelyermullahwarnedyouabout at 9:35 AM ON 11/05/09
I'm surprised the Muslims aren't whining about their being deliberately left out...fatwa'd if you do, fatwa'd if you don't, might as well smash it all Roland...wimp
By LoneGunman at 9:36 AM ON 11/05/09
I understand his natural concern for his writers about not wanting a fatwa on their heads, but I really any Muslim leader who places a fatwa on the heads of any cast or crew member will simply look ignorant and foolish because the director in this movie is decimating most of all the religious sites around the world instead of discriminating against any one particular religion. Besides, if that is how these Muslim leaders would have reacted, a real-life natural disaster, like a super-volcano, an asteroid impact, a magnetic pole-shift, a super solar storm, or a gamma ray burst, won't discriminate and won't selectively choose their targets. They will destroy most if not all life on Earth as we know it, including their beloved Kabba. When Muslim leaders turn a blind eye to their own ultra-conservative zealots of Islam who carry out or support abominable acts of terror against civilians, they have certainly lost all credibility in the eyes of the world.
By proudtobewestern at 9:38 AM ON 11/05/09
COWARD!!!!
Again the terrorists win---what a @#$$^!!
By echoes at 9:39 AM ON 11/05/09
yeah you are right bboy!!
By Goober at 9:39 AM ON 11/05/09
Heaven forbid he should piss off the muslims....
By echoes at 9:45 AM ON 11/05/09
It is all about respecting your Creator..
By ameria at 9:46 AM ON 11/05/09
This fag needs to grow some balls that his boyfriend can go suck.
If you're gonna diss religion, diss all of them. Also, way to go in further twisting the Western view of Islam, Roland Emmerdick.
By joe at 9:46 AM ON 11/05/09
1 true religion! Ha! 666 yrs after and they make up another one!
By joe at 9:50 AM ON 11/05/09
We will never have concentration camps in America...We will call them by another name.
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