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All of your questions about V's frustrating cliffhanger
Questions, questions, questions. You'd think we'd just finished watching the season finale of Lost or FlashForward instead of the fourth episode of ABC's V, but last night's "It's Only the Beginning" gave us plenty to contemplate after one mother of a cliffhanger.
While it's hard even to call it a midseason finale after a scant four episodes, we're guessing that's probably the best way to describe it, since you'll have to wait more than three months for the final nine episodes to appear in March 2010.
(Huge, mega, alien spoilers ahead!)
At the end of "It's Only the Beginning," we were left feeling that it might just be the end, judging by the size of the alien armada waiting to pounce on Earth. Our four freedom-fighting heroes don't seem to have a chance against the Vs, even with the Fifth Column in their corner. But it's fun to watch Anna (Morena Baccarin) squirm when things don't go her way.
Here's some of our thoughts—and yours, from ABC.com's V forum—about the questions that popped up after the cliffhanger.
Will Father Jack survive?
Kingtycho thinks he knows better. "Will he make it? How did the one visitor survive the explosion, and how did he find Father Jack?? (he better survive, he's too much an asset to the show right now)"
Well, kingtycho, our best guess is that he'll make it somehow, since he's a star. But why the Visitor would escape the explosion and follow Father Jack (Joel Gretsch), and NOT CALL ANNA before he tries to kill him ... we're at a loss. What purpose does killing him serve when Jack could be used to find the other resistance fighters? We're thinking Anna is not going to be happy with that V, and she can be scary.
What's all this skinning business about?
And when are we going to get to see a what's underneath the Vs' human suits?
Ryan (Morris Chestnut) mentioned skinning in a negative way, like it was the worse thing ever for a V. And then one of the Fifth Column gets skinned by one of his own to protect another Fifth Column V named Joshua. It has to do with sharp blades, it seems to hurt a lot, and the Vs are very scared of it. But why it's a bad thing we don't know yet. It implies the human suit is not just a suit to the Vs.
Lost_Behrings wrote, "If we see Anna tap-dancing down the halls of the V ship with a brand new pair of alligator-type shoes, I think I know where they came from."
You are so right, Lost-Behrings. She is such a bitch.
Is Chad Decker (Scott Wolf) actually going to die?
Will the Vs help his brain problem, or are they just messing with him?
Apparently no one really cares if Chad's brain is about to explode. But did the Vs put something into his brain, OR was something there all along, OR is there NOTHING in Chad's brain at all? We think it's the last one, and they're just messing with him to get him to do their bidding.
What does Anna have planned for Tyler (Logan Huffman)?
Oh, this was a popular one. There's just so many possibilities from sfmacy's "Boy Toy!!!" to nagsmth's belief that "she wants grandkids."
According to adambodnar412, it's "TO RULE THE GALAXY LIKE PALPATINE WANTED LUKE TO DO WITH DARTH VADER."
bopper7373 added, "who cares, if we have to wait 'til March to find out..."
Bugaboojda wrote, "I think that Tyler is going to become the leader of the human Peace Ambassadors who will rally all of the youth to defend and protect the Vs."
And here's our favorite from Will_Casity, "Exploit for aggression testing to identify if humans can be controlled through their aggression, since bliss will not work on them. And if that doesn't work, then they will use him to make babies."
What's up with putting SOMETHING in our flu shots?
Ginmartini70 has issues with the plot that has the Vs tainting our flu-shot supply with something called R6. "Americans sure love there conspiracy theories. Look for the anti-vaccine crowd to start quoting V, and for millions to start the theory that vaccines are being developed by extraterrestrials."
Lostwarrior25 so does not agree. "Seriously? It's a show about aliens... SCIENCE FICTION. Nobody's gonna freak out about flu shots. They are not needed anyway, just eat healthy."
(We don't agree with this, BTW. We followed our doctor's advice and got the flu vaccines.)
Who is John May?
He's maybe a legend or the leader of the Fifth Column rebels, and the Web is abuzz with the possibilities as to who he is. Could he be Marcus, Anna's right-hand man? Or perhaps Ryan? Or maybe someone we don't know yet?
According to VickyVicious, she thinks it just might be Marcus (Christopher Shyer). "For some reason I have a feeling that he's a good guy. And maybe happens to be John May. There is just something about him that is off. And I feel like if he isn't a good guy after all then he is a bad guy, like really bad. Beyond bad. Evil."
As for 2Tizacuv, he wrote, "I am hoping that John May will be a cameo surprise, like Marc Singer, Michael Ironside or [Robert] Englund to play that part." For those of you too young to remember, they were stars of the original V miniseries.
Do we puny Earthlings have a chance?
Especially with a gazillion V ships waiting to pounce on us?
Well, Gitchee thinks, "The armada we saw at the end of the show was mentioned in other discussions, and some were wondering if it could be the Fifth Column. So, I went and re-watched the ending. Anna's last words were 'What you've seen today Tyler, is only the beginning.' Then she looked upward into the distance and the scene rapidly zoomed through the galaxy to the armada. That leads me to believe it is not the Fifth Column, but instead is the Visitor's invasion fleet."
We're going with an invasion fleet, otherwise they'd just pop by and blow up Anna. After all, there were way more than 29 ships in that fleet.
Will there be that half-alien baby after all?
Looks like we're in for a V/human child now that Valerie (Lourdes Benedicto) is preggers with Ryan's child. Think he's going to tell her he's an traitorous alien reptile bastard BEFORE she gives birth?
Aerosimms had a realization. "You know, I was thinking of this and then realized - it's Morris Chestnut! As long as he doesn't have to take off his human suit - she can hang out in denial. I definitely would. Because she's a psychologist, she can rationalize it by saying she's studying V psychology."
"Do we really know who Valerie's baby daddy is?" Tandona wrote. "What if she got pregnant while visiting the health center? Her boyfriend is a V and he is probably not going to be so irresponsible to get her pregnant without a plan."
Irresponsible baby daddy or not, we also think Morris should keep on his human suit and just take off his shirt more often.
When is someone going to eat a guinea pig?
"So much for another show with 5 years of interlocking mysteries with a 100 loose ends. If you want aliens here they are. Infiltrators and traitors don't blink. Even though 5th Column is the wrong term here, we have Ryan (not Gunn from Angel) taking on his own people, while Tyler is all set to kiss off human-kind for a cute blond. As the show was barreling fast down the road I was sure there was going to be a guinea pig sighting," wrote Lost_Behrings.
We can only hope.
Why is ABC making us wait until March to see more?
Wcman17 ranted, "What a crock of doo-doo that this won't be back until March of 2010...That's 4 months away....what gives? I'm sorry, I won't be watching in the future.....in 4 months I will have found something else to watch....ABC, you already do this with LOST.....why do you subject the public to this kind of game?"
"It's a little sad, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the government that was getting this show cancelled," added conspiracy theorist seb_V.
Conspiracy theorist GGordonGoodgame commented, "Did I miss something? V was pulled off the air at the insistence of the White House. Look for next season to have a whole different feeling to it. The show was a great start...The head writer was fired for his parallel references to the current government attempt at a Marxist takeover...Look for next season to have a much more 'predictable' bad guy...A Sarah Palin look alike with a Wasilla accent...Wouldn't surprise me a bit."
wipurfield3 also ranted, "I hate you people! 4 episodes! Seriously! It's no wonder that network tele is losing to cable."
Well, we don't have a lot to add to those comments. Enough said.
And how did you feel about the "midseason" finale and the long, long wait for more V? Or have you lost interest completely?
By MUADIB at 1:19 PM ON 11/25/09
TYLER KISSING THE ALEIN BLONDE KINDA BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF MY FOLKS COMPLAINING THAT I WAS "PLAYING WITH MY FOOD".In this case though it seems to take on a ...."MACABRE" meaning .
By paul at 1:20 PM ON 11/25/09
I thought the reason that there is a break until March is because they needed to take a break because the areas they are filming in needed to be used for the Olympics in Vancouver.
By Tempus13 at 2:53 PM ON 11/25/09
You would think the advanced technology of the V Health Centers would be able to detect a V-Human hybrid without any problem.
Why would they keep this a secret? None of the humans are supposed to know the truth about the V's. This could present a realy problem.
By SethSJ at 2:58 PM ON 11/25/09
1. Jack will live, 2. brand new luggage, 3. Chad's getting his chain yanked, 4. Anna wants Taylor to be a loyal general in her war with "THE ENEMY"(the original V), 5. @#$% Flu, 6. Ironside would be perfect to play John May, 7. Humanities chances: Infinity to one.
By Jason at 3:27 PM ON 11/25/09
I don't see why the baby would have to be a human/visitor hybrid. If they've got human skin, eyes, hair and so on, why not human reproductive organs? For all we know, Ryan is producing genuine human sperm.
By legendzero1 at 5:07 PM ON 11/25/09
I imagine skinning would be very painful because the human skin is most likely tied into their nervous system.
By scifire at 5:46 PM ON 11/25/09
Bring back Defying Gravity!
By kev74 at 5:50 PM ON 11/25/09
What about the whole bliss things? What's that about?
By Omen at 5:51 PM ON 11/25/09
Of course the priest survives God is with him.
I'm just wondering why those skins don't heal.
Of course they are trying to control Decker & he's got it.
Tyler is a tool & a fool.
C'mon flu shots don't make you ill;)
John May is a front.
With such an armada why bother trying to fool us?
Alien Baby?!
That's one biology class I would attend.
Eat something else & start a trend.
Why till 3/10?
They're suits.
Nuf said
By Darken at 6:54 PM ON 11/25/09
I think I know why skinning is a big taboo for the visitors. If you see during the bliss scene anna mentions 'no more disease' obviously the Vs are in exodus from their planet and what would convince most Vs to wear a fake skin and a possible reason to leave would be an illness they can not cure. Possibly their real skin is horrific so they LIKE having fake human skin.
2nd point they are testing on humans, for a cure? Or maybe those weren't humans on the table maybe they were Vs. Notice they were deformed so couldn't tell.
By jm at 7:01 PM ON 11/25/09
Will Father Jack survive?
As much as I like Joel Gretsch as an actor, I really don't care. The whole "one day you'll have to decide if you're going to be a priest or a fighter" is such a painfull cliche.
What's all this skinning about?
Don't care.
Is Chad Decker actually going to die?
God I hope so.
What does Anna have planned for Tyler [also known as Emo Boy]?
I hope she plans to fatten him up and make a meal out of him. If not that, don't care.
What's up with putting something in our flu vaccines?
Don't care. The dialoge in this scene sealed the deal for me. I won't be watching this when/if it returns.
Who is John May?
Don't care.
Do we puny Earthlings have a chance?
Don't care. Actually, if I do watch this show when it returns, it will be only to root for the lizards.
Will there be that half-alien baby after all?
Don't care. Unless they have the lizard baby ripping its way out a la Alien; that would be cool.
When is someone going to eat a guinea pig?
Hell with eating a guinea pig, I want to see Anna unhinge her jaw and swallow Emo Boy.
Why is ABC making us wait until March to see more?
Don't care. Not going to watch it anyway.
By yokozuka at 7:28 PM ON 11/25/09
Well, i sure haven´t lost interest, i already knew they were gonna handle it this way, so by then, i´ll just stick to SG-U, LOST and CAPRICA while we wait for the return of ¨V¨, it better be gods-damn worthit!!
By Nick at 8:04 PM ON 11/25/09
The problem with V is that it is too simplistic. If the Vs have been on Earth for such a long time to have infiltrated society, that implies a higher degree of sophistication than what has been shown.
Moreover, why would the human governments allow humans such easy access to the Vs, letting humans become their employees in a matter of weeks? Where are the high level government officials? Why would the FBI allow a would-be assassin be turned over to the Vs? Huh? In the pilot, a shuttle craft leaves the ship and lands in the warehouse district. The shuttle was visible by the naked eye. Why wouldn't the police and military be all over that shuttle?
Where is the U.S. military in all this?
Now why would the Vs have a top research facility for their poisoned flu vaccine left not locked? Even in an emergency, someone could lock a door, right? Also, why would the Vs have only one such facility for the WORLD?
V lacks the sophistication and grand epic design of Lost. It's clumsy like Smallville, playing to less intellectual demand.
By Michael at 4:20 AM ON 11/26/09
ABC is making us wait till March 2010 because of the Olympics in Vancouver on NBC!
By skyhawk at 10:07 PM ON 11/26/09
I think somehow the resistance will screw with the invasion fleets' coordinates to Earth and have them head towards a black hole or cylon space or whatever.
By G-Man at 5:56 PM ON 11/27/09
No skyhawk, the invasion fleet gets lost in a region of space and become the Gorn. ;)
By epic at 7:07 PM ON 11/27/09
I've always know that Chad Decker has a brain problem. If you know what I mean lol :))
By Nathan at 12:31 AM ON 11/28/09
Its pretty obvious Anna is a cult leader kicked from their home planet, and the home planet is sending ships to capture Anna and take her back to the planet. The home planet Vs will save Earth, and that will be the end of the season. As for the little character arcs., Im still guessing, but this is obviously a cult typa dealio. That clicked the moment they put Anna into thinking she was some Goddess and she was giving the V's Bliss as their drug to keep them addicted to her.
By Gilveron at 10:07 AM ON 11/28/09
I really have to wonder at ABC's logic in even remaking v. Yes, the original miniseries' were popular, but V was dreadful and died quickly. V really was a flash in the pan for NBC. And it's possible, given ABC's treatment of the series, that they share some of that concern. Regardless of the "actual" (read: bullpucky) reasons for V's long hiatus after only 4 episodes, ABC has fired Scott Peters, and production on the series remains indefinitely postponed. I think a better question would be, will we ever get answers to any of these issues, and I would lay odds against it.
I think the "guinea pig" question has been answered. The original Visitors could not process cooked food. These Visitors (and I refuse to call them "Vs," that is so stupid) can eat pizza, so if they do eat guinea pig, then it most likely wouldn't be live. As for the alien baby, I thought Ryan looked awfully surprised when his girlfriend said she was pregnant. I think Ryan knows the baby isn't his, but a product of Visitor manipulation, because, as Carl Sagan noted, it would be easier for a human to mate with a petunia than an extraterrestrial, because at least the flower evolved on the same planet. I think Tyler is going to be the "Daniel" character on this series, and be head of the peace ambassadors. I also think it's obvious that Jack will live, and that Chad Decker is being played by the Visitors. As for skinning, I don't know if flaying off the human skin would be painful as it doesn't appear that the flesh regenerates, but taking off the reptilian skin, now that would hurt like an sob.
Lastly, who says that huge Armada was headed for earth? After all, in the original V, one of the planned uses for the captured humans was as cannon fodder for the Leader's army. It could be that Armada was headed somewhere else. It would seem to be a bit of overkill to send that many ships to earth when it's already established that 29 ships can control the planet. Sending all of those ships to earth would be like dropping a hydrogen bomb on an anthill. I guess we'll (hopefully) have to wait until March to find out.
By Gilveron at 10:12 AM ON 11/28/09
Lord I wish there was an "edit" feature on here. That should have read, "V THE SERIES" was dreadful and died quickly.
By SteveT at 12:49 PM ON 11/28/09
What really makes a story like this work is the seeming invincibility of the villain. (It was the same with the Borg on Next Generation.) Their technology, calculated strategy, secret agents and looming Armada make the V an apparently unbeatable foe. That's what keeps me watching.
By Bobanort at 6:06 AM ON 11/29/09
What's all this skinning business about?
Who says they only remove the human skin?? Most likely both skins are removed, probably causing death from hypothermia and blood loss. That would be the way to instill terror in your population and get rid of a traitor. More than likely the human skin is, forgive me for describing it this way, a body condom for the visitors. It transfers tactile sensations through, but the nerves probably don't connect to the reptile's nervous system or ryan would have had more damage from the wound in the pilot. That would be consistent with Alan Tudyk's character getting brained by the iron bar and only being dazed as the human skin would have taken up much of the impact.
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