Is there anyone in the Biz with an original idea?

Maybe this movie will be worth watching, unlike that Ronald Moore garbage they had the nerve to call Battlestar Galactica.

Garbage as in science fiction as allegory? Both political and philosophical? Or garbage as in one of the most brave and daring television shows of recent time?

I love how the BG Moore fans and BG Larson fans have at it when they forget Battlestar Galactica was a tv network's way to cash in on Star Wars back in the day. There was even a copyright lawsuit claiming even the "hairstyles" was copied from Star Wars. So "reimagining" of a "reimagining" arguments seem silly.

If it happens then it happens. I dont know if I'll like it or not, I just hope it doesnt end with God works in mysterious ways that gives a cop out closure.

"which will have nothing to do with Syfy's re-imagined series from Ronald Moore and David Eick"

That is great news!

"There's been no word if Moore will be involved in the re-reboot, yet given the rumored "rocky" relationship between Larson and Moore, it seems unlikely"

Hopefully, he will have nothing to do with it. Satisfied Tony?

P.S.

For all the remake murmurs, there is really nothing original out there (for the most part) anymore.

i like Brian singer.but i think some fans put him on to high a pedestal.i liked the Brent ranter X-men movie.they kind of had there bubbles busted after superman returns was just average at best.but i'm not going to lie.for all the bitching about no new ideas in hollywood i am intrigued by a singer battle star.

i like Brian singer.but i think some fans put him on to high a pedestal.i liked the Brent ranter X-men movie.they kind of had there bubbles busted after superman returns was just average at best.but i'm not going to lie.for all the bitching about no new ideas in hollywood i am intrigued by a singer battle star.

Rob they don't tend to give Peabody Awards to bad Television shows. Ron Moore's version of Galactica was simply one of the best written shows on Television

Correction: it should be "... with Scifi's re-imagined series..."

don't insult BSG by relating it to the garbage that is SyFy(llis).

Great another WE RUIN IT PRODUCTIONS alum. Bryan Singer, McG, Uwe Boll, Bret Ratner, these guys should just go back to Rap videos.

This has fail written all over it. LOL!
WE RUIN IT PRODUCTIONS is at it again!

What's this about a rocky relationship between Moore and Larson? That's news to me. Maybe Larson is bitter that Moore turned his pretty crappy 70s family Sci-Fi show into something worth watching.

why..why...why...why...why...why....

Singer was working on BSG before it went on to Moore, so I could see him looking at it, but I think he's prepping for a 2010 shoot on something entirely different , so it would be a while. Distance is always good on the heels of a successful effort.

TheDriverPicks. If Singers version of Galactica had gone to series it might have lasted one maybe two seasons at best. I doubt that it would have achieved the kind of acclaim and following that Ron Moore's series achieved. However, I would like to see a big screen version of the original, that to me could be fun.

Anybody looking for some original Sci-fi that could be transferred to film? Has anybody talked to DAVID WEBER OR JOHN RINGO??????????????

Oh great....He's probably gonna screw this one up. Why can't they just leave it alone.....?

A 3rd whatever imagining of BSG is gonna be a hard pill for fans of both series. I imagine as with both I believe there will be an attack on the colony by the cylons, the better question is what is the plot? or is it gonna be an origin story with the development of the 1st cylon and cylon uprising/separation? I mean in the 1st original series it was the quest to find earth. I'm not sure of the 2nd BSG show plot. How do you end a Movie for BSG considering it has 2 hrs to hold it's audience? Do they find earth in 2 hours, or do you just end it hoping to make continuous sequels.

BSG actually imo works better as a TV Series than an actually movie.

"This has all happened before, and will happen again."

"This has all happened before, and will happen again."

Yes, and when it happened before, was that the first time? If not, then who are we to judge if it is a repeat or not. Isn't the very fact that we are breathing a repeat of past breaths? Yet, while breathing we have done different things.

@rob

wow the nerds are even angry at super scifi shows that were huge success with the geek crowd.

seriously wtf do u watch that can satisfy u? do u even like scifi? why are you here

I'll give it a chance if they don't use the absolute lamest term ever "frakking", I'm mean the new series should have been cancelled just on that basis, for that word. Whats more alarming is that people actually use that word!

How is Singer going to fit any story into a 2 hour movie. Both previous efforts were TV series with many episodes and seasons for character development. I cannot see this working. I'll withhold final judgment until they begin releasing trailers but this seems like a useless idea.

I love frak, personally. And I loved both the original and remake BSG. And I have to be honest, because I own the original series, watching it again as an adult I realize it was pretty crappy, but I still love it.

I'm all for a remake/continuation of the original, and I think Singer is a good choice to direct. I see no reason--rocky relationship or not--why Ron Moore would choose to be involved even if asked, sinc his Galactica story is finished, and he's moved on to Caprica.

As to whether or not the new film would cover a "first cylon split," remember that in Larsen's original, the Cylons were an alien race of reptiles, who built the Cylon bodies based on human specifications because they felt the human form was more utilitarian than their own. After centuries of war, the biological Cylons died, leaving behind their Centurions to continue their endless war with humanity. Adama says that the Cylons hate humanity because humans love freedom (sound familiar?), but didn't actually declare war on humanity until the 12 Colonies intervened against the Cylon conquest of another species (whose name at this time escapes me).

You nerds ruin every goddamn thing.

LOL at all the re-imagined BSG haters. Probably sad and angry because it didn't have daggits.

Bryan Singer can go frak himself.

"Maybe this movie will be worth watching, unlike that Ronald Moore garbage they had the nerve to call Battlestar Galactica."

Oh no, afraid of change! Scary, evil change!

Come on, the original show was TERRIBLE. The only well-executed portion of it was the overall plot: ragtag survivors on the run to a new home after theirs was destroyed. Everything else was absolutely horrid even by the standards then.

But at the first poster.. no, Hollywood has NO original ideas left. I think District 9 is about the last piece of fresh material we'll see for awhile until more of the next generation of filmmakers make their debuts and kick out morons like Bay, Emmerich and Howard.

While I'm all for kicking out Bay, Emmerich, and Howard, District 9 was original? Really? I liked it much better the first time, when it was called "Alien Nation."

'God did it'. 'They're Angels'. They and all their children die meaningless deaths and every trace of their civilization is gone. Why? Because Lee went for a walk with his Dad and said, 'Let's send all our spaceships into the sun. It'll be a clean start'. Right. Ron Moore is dead to me.

I mean seriously, it was like Neill Blomkamp said, "When I said I was going to stick "Lethal Weapon 2's" head on "Alien Nation's" body, they said I was MAD!" I liked "District 9," I think it was the best movie that should have been made twenty years ago. I hope and have no doubt that Blomkamp will have a long and lucrative career. But "Distric 9" wasn't in any way original.

@me: Not to mention the fact that Ron Moore's stated purpose was to create a, "Naturalistic Science Fiction" show, and then ends it with "God did it." God and Angels cannot exist in a naturalistic universe, because God and Angels are, by definition, supernatural.

I suppose I should post this disclaimer: I loved the reimagined BSG. I just hated the way it ended. But Ron More has more Peabodies than me, so he's entitled to end his series however he wants. (Gods damn it, Ron, really? Frakking Angels?)

Not to flame, but the original BSG gave us some time honored words like "felgercarb" and "centons", so to hate the word "frak" is trivial. I like both series, as I enjoy most sci-fi. Both had their merits and faults, but both presented their audiences with interesting journeys...

Probably the biggest question yet......Will they bring back Rick Springfield to play Zac? Oh wait, he died.....Maybe he'll return as an angel or something. lol

when nerds turn on BSG, theres no hope left with these super loosers... serioulsy whats next? why even be a scifi fan anymore? think u got something better to watch? go watch it

personally can't wait to see a bsg movie, if its bad then well forget it about it. if its good then even better

if the nerds had it there way, we would never have gotten batman begins and dark knight because they would cry "why" b4 even seeing it. or have they turned on those movies now too

Blah, blah, blah, gripe, bitch, moan and complain...about everything. Yadda, Yadda Yadda...

"which will have nothing to do with Syfy's re-imagined series from Ronald Moore and David Eick."

Hooray!

"Singer is reportedly working with Glen Larson, the producer behind the original 1970s Battlestar series"

Double Hooray!

I watched the original Larson B Galactica episode-by-episode when it was brand new and shiny. It had characters that were on the whole, very shallow, but fun. The Cylons were slow and sluggish, and very poor shots.

As a story; It was quite flawed.

I watched the Moore B. Galactica episode-by-episode; and it was all grim and gritty, with realistic characters and motivations...and impressively dangerous Cylons ( at least the 'Centurian' models, anyway )

But; ultimately, as a story it was quite flawed.

Now...yet ANOTHER B. Galactica.

Well, I`ll draw fire from BOTH B. Galactica Fan Camps:

IT`S JUST NOT THAT GREAT A STORY.

Life Here Began Out There...Tribes Of Humans...Cutesy allusions to the Zodiac and Greek Mythology.... Sentient Robotic Race That Is Inevitably Just As Screwed Up As The Humans.....Vipers.....Frakk This, Frakk That....

People.... It`s all been DONE and DONE and in no way has it ever been done in a way that was entirely satisfactory from a basic STORY-TELLING perspective.

Larson Fans: If Moore`s B. Galactica was a travesty of the Original, then it was a travesty of an Original Travesty. The characters in the original had less depth than the average mud puddle. The Cylons were laughable and the story itself never ended because it never went anywhere.
Moore Fans: All that poignant depth and gitty realism went right down the figurative toilet the moment that 'GOD`s WILL ' became , by default, The Answer To All Things. Treating The Journey As Your Goal only works in Zen. A Good Story Is NOTHING Without A Good Pay-Off.

The Larson B. Galactica was Flash with very little Substance that never evolved. The Moore B. Galactica was Substance that ultimately devolved into Flash.

I cannot see why anyone wants to flogg this conceptual Dead Horse anew.

I hope so. I really do. Maybe Singer can elevate the franchise to something on the level of Star Wars or Star Trek.

RDM's socio-political crap will soon be forgotten and relegated to the bargain bin somewhere like most, "critically acclaimed" , but ultimately unentertaining shows that critics loved, but audiences didn't watch. Also, since he directly stole many of the ideas and concepts for his show from Larson's proposed restart, RDM can't really get much credit storywise either.

The couple of million people who watched the new BSG (GINO to some of you) will still have the DVDs, but the audience was never going to grow beyond what it already has any way.

Let Singer make something great out of it and perhaps make some of the characters like Apollo and Starbuck interesting again.

As far as the theory about people not going to see this new version because of the show, that's not really a factor, as the only people who really even know what the new BSG is are the mega-nerds living in mommy's basement. Most people have never even heard of it at all. Critics have, but critics do not an audience make. BSG in general does not have nearly the audience of something like Star Trek, and when that came out many of the fans were complaining about changes to the continuit,y but they ultimately went to see the movie any way along with most other people. That's what will happen here.

Good luck Singer. Here's hoping you can make BSG fun.

RE: By danjack
" Maybe Singer can elevate the franchise to something on the level of Star Wars or Star Trek. ....

... the only people who really even know what the new BSG is are the mega-nerds living in mommy's basement. .... Good luck Singer. Here's hoping you can make BSG fun. "

----- See...Here`s The Thing:

Galactica, however simplistic the concept is, is still too involved to be done in a single movie format. If you accept that, then you have to determine how many big screen entries to use to tell this tale...and WHO is going to handle them all.

Is Singer going to stick with what looks to be a 3-4 movie arc?? If so, fine..If NOT, then you have a problem, because any talent worth a damn tends to want to put their own stamp on what they do--not slavishly copy someone else`s technique. Then you will have a disjointed mix in a storyline that needs all the cohesion that it can get.

By the way...Exactly How MUCH 'Fun' do you determine is applicable to a story of Humanity being hunted to extinction by an implacable robotic race ?? Are you advocating trouble-prone cute kids with cuddly robot doggies?

Oh, just F.Y.I... I am 49, own my home, have a wife and two kids....and my parents are long dead.
Put away that tired 'mommy`s basement nerd' CRAP, Sparky, todays`s sci-fi fan is not the cliche you want to point fingers at.
After all, considering where you are posting, you are only damning yourself.

I'm not usually a big Bryan SInger fan, but... ANYTHING would be better than that lamebutt excuse for a BG series we had to put up with. It will be good to see a real BG movie, to continue on the original story that made BG such a hit back in 78.

RE: By sparrowlord01 ;

" ... ANYTHING would be better than that lamebutt excuse for a BG series ...It will be good to see a real BG movie, to continue on the original story that made BG such a hit back in 78."

----I`m confused, pray enlighten me...
The `78 B. Galactica that you are enamored with had shallow characters and a cute kid with a cuddly robot dog. Everyone got along with narry a cross word and apparently no stress, despite their situation. No one drank ( at least, not to any visible effect ) and the closest thing to sex was a 'reformed Socialator' who became a Nurse....

The resent series had resentment, betrayal, animosity and enough sex to clog a Cylon`s tubes.... where ever they are...

So, how was the recent cable series version 'tamebutt' compared to the sugar-coated censor-approved network series of NINETEEN SEVENTY-EIGHT ??

Further, both series followed the exact same plotline. Humanity fleeing from the Cylons for survival..

@TigerShark: "Probably sad and angry because it didn't have daggits."

Not too impressed that it didn't have a plot. Even David Lynch could have worked up something more coherent.

I find it very funny to read the BSG/Moore hater comments... mainly because I know the people complaining about the new series were sitting on their butts, watching it every Friday night. Now they pretend to hate to Moore and hate the show... all because they may not have liked the ending.

Hypocrites, all of them... you know you watched the show, you know you enjoyed it.

RE: By Jk ...

" I find it very funny to read the BSG/Moore hater comments... mainly because I know the people complaining about the new series were watching it every Friday night. Now they pretend to hate Moore and hate the show... all because they may not have liked the ending. Hypocrites, all of them... you know you watched the show, you know you enjoyed it."

--- You miss the point entirely.
I watched the series--admittedly later after recording it. I don`t regularly glue myself to the tube for anything.

I enjoyed the newer Galactica....At first.
Then it began to get more and more ( or should I say 'Moore and Moore' ?) muddled and bogged down by the weight of it`s own angst ...The devolution towards the end into a Messianic morass was just a poor pay-off after all the attempts at creating a Reality that dealt in a viable threat that required a serious response, not Prayer and Angels and a completely un-believable ending. It was a cheat.
I had been prepared to buy the inevitable complete dvd set ... until the last season.

As I posted earlier; No story is worth a damn without a good pay-off. The Sum has to be better than the Parts. With Moore`s Galactica, we got some excellent parts, but the whole just did not add up to a good pay-off. I don`t 'hate' Moore for it, but I am not going to smile and nodd at his conclusion merely because I liked his beginning.

When Moore's BSG first came out, I was hoping for (and expecting) something that took the original and updated it to a more sophisticated premise, effects, and overall storytelling. What I felt we got was a pretentious piece of crap that in no way reflected it's original and should have never been called BSG. For what the new series was, I didn't like it. I didn't like how it made me feel like crap watching it. I didn't like how it had no adventure, and how the battle scenes became few and far between. I didn't appreciate how there were hardly any Cylons, and that it's major premise was a rip off of Screamers....yes, Screamers, go watch it. The original may have been a silly piece of crap, which could be improved upon, but the new one should have been its own thing. It may have been more respected if it was. Personally, it didn't fascinate me, and I enjoy smart Television. I just felt Moore is a hack...much like Kevin Smith and Michael Bay...

I cannot believe all the haters on this site. Come on people, it is television. It is supposed to be entertaining. As a kid in the 70's, I loved the original BG. Looking back, it was a cheesy Star Wars ripoff, with ok special effects and slightly better acting. I still loved the show for what it was.

When SCIFI announced the new/reimagined BG, I couldn't wait. I wasn't disappointed. It quickly became my favorite TV show (not just scifi, all TV). It wasn't your typical SCIFI show. It was very well written and acted plus very real/gritty looking special effects (so not Star Trek). It was 10 times better than the original but I still loved both of them. As far as some people hating how the new BG ended with the GOD copout, if you watched the show, there was an underlying religious theme throughout the show. I for one liked how they ended the show.

P.S. I have lent my copies of the new BG DVD's to quite a few friends who never watched the show before and the consensus was that it was an awesome show although not everyone liked the ending (have to be honest), they still miss it!

P.S.S. I don't think it is a good idea to make a new BG movie (based on the original series) this close to the ending of the new BG but you know what, if they make it, I will go see it.

@ gsizz, that's more or less my point as well. Shows that become obsessed with their own self importance often collapse under their own weight.

I just feel that RDM's verision just wasn't compelling at all, and it just became the screaming/weepy bastard of the week too quickly.

@ Paladin, sounds like you have a lot of angst you need to get out of your system. This is a good place to let loose. Don't hold it inside. By the way, in the original BSG, the Cylons were not robots themselves: they were a retilian race that used the robot suit as armor.

RE: "By danjack
" Paladin, sounds like you have a lot of angst you need to get out of your system. This is a good place to let loose. Don't hold it inside. By the way, in the original BSG, the Cylons were not robots themselves: they were a retilian race that used the robot suit as armor. "
----Ha!... Sparky, I find it very telling that , rather than clarify your comments--as I requested-- you chose to employ some puerile patronizing and close with a relatively minor point of trivia that has no bearing upon the question I asked of you.

As for 'angst' on my part...I`m killing time online discussing a sci-fi tv concept and the glaring flaws in both versions of it ...What are YOU doing ?

By danjack

"Good luck Singer. Here's hoping you can make BSG fun"

Here...I`ll ask you again....

Exactly How MUCH 'Fun' do you determine is applicable to a story of Humanity being hunted to extinction by an implacable robotic race ?? Are you advocating trouble-prone cute kids with cuddly robot doggies?

Examiner.com is kind of a joke; these are "citizen journalists" who get paid a penny every time someone clicks on one of their "stories".

So not only is this very likely bad information, you've also just paid someone for it.

Setting aside the issue of which TV series was better, this seems like such a ridiculous idea just from a marketing perspective. We just finished up with several years of BSG on television, and now these movie execs believe there will be a substantial audience flocking to the cinema to see yet another take on this story? Films like this cost _a lot_ of money, and it's hard to believe this will be much of a draw for the general public. Even if all the Larson fans in the world lined up and saw this twice, I doubt it would end up in the black. I'm pretty sure most of the Moore fans will skip it altogether.

This strikes me as an ill-advised and financially risky attempt by Larson to reclaim BSG from Moore/Eick and their (to him) morally-depraved and depressingly-dark depiction of the story. Whether audiences in a post-9/11 world can look at Larson's squeaky-clean and cheerful take on the survivors of a genocidal campaign and do anything but laugh . . . well, I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.

Boring, campy, stupid and a complete waste of time. The ONLY way another stab at that lame 70's BSG will be watchable will be if it consistently and continuously pokes fun at itself a'la Galaxy Quest. Seriously, I can't believe some people are clamoring for a movie based on Larson's 70's crud.

RE: By snooz .....

". The ONLY way another stab at that lame 70's BSG will be watchable will be if it consistently and continuously pokes fun at itself a'la Galaxy Quest"

----Parody ? Hmmmmm........

Ala` Flesh Gordon:

'BATTLESTAR PROPHYLACTICA".....
Fleeing from the Catholic Church tyranny ; a horny group of nymphos of an on-the-rag fleet searches the stars for SEX ..and a shining planet known as ....DIRT !
OR....
By way of 'Mythbusters'....

BATTLESCARRED PRAGMATICA;
A rag-tag fleet led by an old rust-bucket spaceship flees a race of rogue crash-test dummies to find safety from the scrapyard.

People, it's NOT real. Like it, don't like it. Watch it or don't watch it. It's called ENTERTAINMENT! To quote Shatner..."Get a life people".

Hmmm...Who Is More The Fool ?
The Fools Who Obsess....
Or The Fool Who Obsesses Upon THEM ?

Ok, here's what annoys me: the idea that if you like something, you absolutely can't say anything bad about it, ever. It's not God, it's television, it isn't perfect. Come to think of it, I love God, but I say bad things about Him all the time.

I'm not as down on the new series as Paladin, I'll admit I enjoyed it, but I do share his vitriol for the ending, which was, as he said, completely out of line with the rest of the series. As I've said before, and perhaps this is the same sentiment as Paladin, how can you start out with a naturalistic world, and end with "God did it?" That's not good storytelling, that's alchemy. You can't have God in a naturalistic setting, because in a naturalistic universe, God can't exist (unless you accept the Hegelian idea the the universe is God, and that's just way too heavy a concept for sci-fi television, not to mention inconsistent with the show's portrayal of God and his messengers).

But regardless of the philosophical paradox of starting with naturalism and ending with God (and not just God, but Determinism, probably the ultimate antithesis of naturalism), saying "God did it," is just lazy writing. It ultimately removes the responsibility from all the characters for their actions. Deus Ex Machina wasn't interesting 3000 years ago when the Greeks did it, and it still isn't today.

Well...I KNOW that I am gonna get Hooted offline over this...But here is my idea of the best tie-up for Moore`s B. Galactica....

In the aftermath of the Colonial / Cylon Summit meeting, the Cylons go off to fulfill their own destiny as the best damn toasters they can be under God`s Plan ( they are after all, an artificial intelligence, so they can ruminate on God and Creation and the Question Of Life, The Universe and Everything ad infinitum just to figure out that whole '42' thing)...

The Colonials, tired of traveling and out of resources anyway, resolve to make 'Earth' their home.

They have observed the lack of techno-evolution of the indigent peoples, and decide that they will keep themselves and their advanced tech sequestered in a secluded spot. This way they can help each other, and gradually establish limited contact with the natural inhabitants, thus continuing their race and integrating smoothly over time. They are well aware of the danger of uncontrolled technology.

To do this, they establish a colony on an island. There they create a higher civilisation which flourishes and becomes legendary , particularly when a natural disaster destroys it utterly, taking the high tech to the bottom of the sea. The name lives on, along with the tales of their strange devices and ways..and the name of their colony: ATLANTIS.

Fortunately, through in-breeding, the Colonial race continues to this day, with stalwart leaders with iron jaws, bitchy females and scheming cowards, just like the originals on the Galactica.

yes, yes...I know...Atlantis is sooo tired, right?
Well, it also happens to be the perfect explanation for the Fate of the Colonial Fleet.

It is better than a group of technologically-advanced people just chucking it all and managing to survive in the wild, and it is far better than a group of 'space children' being left on Earth while an entire spacefleet runs away from a Cylon fleet soo dumb that they cannot spot an entire planet.
Best of all, there is no snotty little 'Doctor Zee' to contend with and God is left securely in His Heaven with all right in this Best Of All Possible Worlds.

So There.

I grew up as a kid watching the original BSG. Huge fan of it. Back in Aug/Sept. 2001 at the DragonCon in Atlanta, GA I had the honor of meeting and sitting in on a presentation by none other than the original Apollo, Richard Hatch. For years he had a battle with Larson over the rights to BSG. He wrote a couple of novels set in the BSG universe and had an idea for his own movie, picking things up where the original series left off (pre Galactica 1984 or what ever that crap follow-up series was named) only it took place 20 yrs later. The Galactica and the fleet were still creeping along on its search for earth and his character, Apollo, was now in charge. He even had a 10 minute CGI video he created which he showed to the crowd. It sounded and looked pretty cool and would, have made a great movie. Now, if he were to team up w/ Singer, I think the two could make a pretty good movie together. I was always glad he had a role in the new series, as Tom Zarack, knowing his struggles to bring it back into the mainstream. This was again way before the new Ronald Moore version ever came around. I absolutely LOVE this new version but I am open minded enough to see what Bryan Singer has in mind. Call it a sense of nostalgia but BSG in any form is just great fun.

If the cylons turn out to be frikn' vampires i'm going to shoot someone!!!

Taken in the context of when it first aired, my personal opinion is that the original BSG was terrific, and I think it still endures. The dren that followed the next year when they found Earth was a frilling frak of velgerkarb. I was one of the ones who was initially furious w/the changes in the new BSG, but grew to accept the fact that it wasn't the original and take it on its own. Bryan Singer must have a bug up his butt to do this. I really wish he wouldn't. As for the 'angels' at the end of the recent series, remember, these 'angels' never referred to themselves as such, and when the Six angel refers to God, the Baltar angel says, "You know he hates to be called that." So maybe there were just something else. It could equate to the ship of light in the original series. Or maybe nobody cares what I think, which is probably at least half of you. In that case, frill you all!

When the hell are they going to remake Buck Rogers!

@meezer: SSSSSH! Don't give them any more ideas! One word: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWK! Off think, Meezer, Off think!

I really want to be optimistic about this. There are far too many remakes and reimaginings that completely miss the point of the original. Sci-Fi's BSG started out strong, but after a couple of seasons, it got mired down in angst and self loathing.

I initially liked the new BSG, but I had to stop watching, after I realized that the characters had long since started to annoy me. It reached the point where I just wanted the Cylons to blow up the ship, and Lorne Green to show up and leave the civilian fleet to Earth.

The original show was fun, but realistically, those people were way too chipper, for people who's civilization had just been destroyed. The new series turned into a long string of downers. I'm hoping that this movie will find an entertaining middle ground.

you know everbody thats saying sh** about this movie will proble be one of the first people to watch it because they will finally have a reason to get out of there mothers basement.

I'm with the people who wonder how, in a post-September 11 world, can you make a "fun" or "entertaining" movie where humanity has been nuked to the brink of extinction and is now being hunted across the galaxy by an enemy determined to finish the job. I just don't see how you can make a Battlestar Galactica movie that will recreate the excitment you felt as a kid in 1978 waiting for your favorite show to start, when we all know that the reality of our world today is that there really are people out there who would happily nuke us back into the stone age if they could. Kind of hard for me to find the funny there.

I also have an idea for SciFi Wire. Please, please, please set up something where all the people who think the ending of Ron Moore's BSG sucked can submit THEIR ideas for how it should have ended. Then all of us can critique their efforts. Even better would be some way to rate them. I'm really tired of the people endlessly whining every chance they get about how much they hate the ending, and I want to see if any of them can come up with anything better. A few rules though: 1) must explain "Head Baltar" and "Head Six"; 2) must explain resurected (sp) Cara; and 3) must be in keeping with basic events from the original BSG, i.e. the ship of light/"lords of light"/dudes in the sparkly white uniforms helping the fleet find earth. Remember, all this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

@jm: Well, while I may disagree with how RDM ended BSG, I have already admitted he had every right to end it in the lazy, deus ex machina way he did. But all right, I'll give it a try. Ahem:

You'd have to go back to the pilot, and take RDM at his original word. There is no earth. It's a fantasy. There are no Lords of Kobol, or Cylon God, they're both delusions. The "head" characters are likewise delusions, anomalies of the characters' subconscious guilt. In regard to Starbuck, well, since we've 86ed the lame "Final Five" drek with the rest of the, "God did it" meme, the simplest answer is the best; she's a frakking cylon. Also, since the "ship of lights" crap was from the original, and this is not the original, it has no place. ok, ground rules established, here goes:

Starbuck goes to Caprica and retrieves the Arrow of Apollo. It leads them to the lost colony of "Earth," which is actually just another colony of humans who created Cylons and went to war with them, and both species were eradicated. This fact leads both sides to realize that they can either continue to fight each other to mutual extinction, like the "Earthlings" did, or they can go their separate ways, and try to live in peace. The colonists find Schmearth, just like in the real ending, and set up a civilization, which eventually becomes us. The End.

Optional ending for evil writers: after the screen goes black, a title card reads: 2009. Cut to scenes of children playing, people working, going about their daily lives, etc. Suddenly, about 200 Cylon baseships show up in orbit, one of the people says, "oh frak" as the bombs start dropping. The real end.

People who are hating on BSG because of the spiritual nature of the ending just must not have been paying attention throughout the run of the series. The head projections always had to be metaphysical creatures. "Hard science" just didn't explain them or the fate and destiny threads that were at the forefront for much of the series.

And if you despise the ending because of the God and angels stuff, you must at least admit that the metaphysical cheese of the original series was much, much smellier.

The original was supposed to be a mini-series. When it was changed to weekly episodes, the writers could not come up with enough quality story lines and the special effects team could not produce fast enough. The first three hours was quite good. Leonard Maltin even gave it three stars.

Perhaps Singer will a CG of Loren Greene at the star!

@bdaul

I'm pretty sure Lorne is in Kobol boozing with Brett Sommers (Siress Bellaby), Michael Landon, and Gene Rayburn.

By the way, you have to be this old to get these references.

Classy, I told you to stay under your rock, you pathetic piece of shit. Go bash another site & leave science fiction to your betters.

simply put, i am a fan of both i grew up watching bsg as a child in the 70s as an adult that still enjoys scifi i stumbled into an enjoyable reimaging of something that i had enjoyed in my youth. now then i will say both have their place and i think that moores version was to flip flop the thin veneer of the original taking what was at that time in the 70 when people were begign to forget the horrors of the holocust as it has begun to slip in to the dimming memorys and breath new life into it. as adults we can apperciate stories with depth and emotion that we can not apperciate as children. i enjoyed both and can look at both and see something special in each. but as others have stated above, what really can singer do with let say max 3 hours? i can speculate but in all reality untill i see some trailers to entice me to watch i cannot really think it will have any appeal for me. gl bryan hope it works out for u.

OPINIONS, OPINIONS, OPINIONS
All a'Gods chillin got opinions.

And this is mine, LOVED the original series.
Hated Ron Moores version.
I am looking forward to this.

I don't think there's been this much vitriolic hatred over a piece of fiction since the House debate of Obama's health care bill...

RE: By Virgil's Diner

" I don't think there's been this much vitriolic hatred over a piece of fiction since the House debate of Obama's health care bill.."

---Or since the Republican Party found out that the American People, on the whole, will tolerate only so much BS before they vote you out of power.

If the story doesn't expand the reimagined universe, I *will not* be walking into it. RDM has redefined BSG. Any BSG movie backed by Larson that once again reimagines the franchise is nothing but foolish and a waste of money.

@PALADIN stated emphatically "The Larson B. Galactica was Flash with very little Substance that never evolved."

I'd say that you never caught the 1980 episode THE RETURN OF STARBUCK and given the long and tortuous route it took to get that on the air who could blame you? Nevertheless that episode and maybe the Halloween 1980 one, THE NIGHT THE CYLONS LANDED, which introduced the concept that primitive Earth technology might be more effective against advanced cybernetic organisms looooong before SG-1 ever existed let alone met a Replicator, definitely showed some evolution.

I for one am looking forward to an updated Battlestar Galactica that is more closer to the original. No matter how good the writing and acting may have been on the new series, it did not come across as an updated BSG, but as a complete new entity. Also, I refuse to watch anything that does not respect the characters. A woman playing Starbuck is like a Chinese man playing Superman, or a white man playing Jim Rhoades in Iron Man. While it may be an interesting take on character, and may have wonderful acting, you can only stretch a charchter so far before it snaps and it is no longer recognizable as the charachter that was created. I refuse to give my money or time to any show that does not respect the characters that make up the story.

All of you original galactica fans, just ignore the whole Moore version, because it will just go the way of Galactica 1980 anyway. We had to pretend that didn't happen. Now we can just pretend the Moore thing didn't happen and can just ignore it.

I bet that Simon Baylor's Father could write a far better script for the film. He is a lad from Lancashire and they are no bloody fools.