Good story telling doesn't require a lot of special efforts. The concept for V when it aired was original and bold. It also attracted a lot of non-scifi fans which is rare in alien themed films. Interesting article.

All I remember from the original series was the big hoopla about the half alien baby.

The half-baby storyline was from the television series, which was weak compared to the mini-series.

The half-alien baby was born in the second miniseries The Finale Battle, and the grown up half-alien was in the series.

The Hybrid was part of the 2nd mini series and continued into the main series.

Elizabeth = The StarChild

It's good to know that television studios are capable of making good decisions once in awhile. This was definitely one of the rare times that they got it right. This goes to show that miracles do happen.

The half-alien was born in the second miniseries The Final Battle, and the grown up version was in the series (yes, she grew up very quick).

Oops, I thought the first post didn't go through.

V worked because it didn't focus on special effects. The best moment in the original miniseries is with Leonard Cimino and the kids vandalizing the propaganda posters.

Earth Final Conflict was SOOO MUCH BETTER AND STILL IS THE BEST!!

I agree with Jason, Earth Final Conflict was superior.
I'm still interested in watching the new V

I agree with Jason, Earth Final Conflict was superior.
I'm still interested in watching the new V

All the women were hot!!! The story was pretty good too!

Whatever happened to Jane Badler?!?!

'V' was just a scifi take on Dallas/Dynasty - complete with shoulder-padded 'alien' divas scratching at each other and pouting for the camera!

I'm going to set the DVR for this, just so I can play it back when I'm out :)

Alien Nation and Earth Final Conflict were better written. I'll still give the reimaged "V" a shot.

I enjoyed the original V mini-series. It was well written and had good characters. Not a lot of special effects were needed. The second mini-series was fairly good as well. But the soap opera started to creep in. The series died a merciful quick death.

As far as series go, Alien Nation was superior. Earth:Final Conflict was better too.

I am willing to give the new V a chance. I hope they don't screw it up.

To CRDFilm: Jane Badler is currently a jazz singer down under. Check our her My Space page. http://www.myspace.com/janebadler

I just watched the first 4 hours of the mini series, and was very impressed. I agree that the change they made for the movie worked for back in the 80's, but the first script would have worked well also, as long as they shot it correctly.

The desciption of the first script reminds me of the movie V for Vendetta in 2005, which was a wonderful movie! I had to laugh every time I saw the V's everyone was placing on the alien posters, because I thought of V for Vendetta.

Sway

I was a big fan of the original mini-series when it came out. I am very excited to hear about the re-imagining and anticipate watching it. Best line I have heard so far from the trailers though is when the visitor tells the reporter not to ask any questions that would paint them in a bad light... you can see the spin happening already

IIRC, the original script was more in line with something like Sinclair Lewis's It Can't Happen Here than V for Vendetta. Heck, you could argue the Orginal V for Vendetta comic had more in common with It Can't Happen Here than the V for Vendetta movie.

I remember watching this show religiously when I was a kid. But watching it now..the voices of the "visitors" sound different. I don't recall the "layered voice track (the deeper "evil dead-ish" voice) behind the regular voice" I'm hearing when watching this today. Is it just me that thought this sounded odd?

The production values of the original V mini-series were terrific for television at that time. Although shoddy by today's standards, they were comparable to most fantasy/sci-fi films back then. The sets for the mothership interior were particularly good because they didn't have the ridiculous "tin foil" corridors that we used to associate with cheap TV sci-fi, and they utilised lighting coming out of the walls rather than just the ceilings. But I think it was so successful because it was television and not a film, and it took television sci-fi to a new level and appealed to people who would not normally watch sci-fi.

I don't think Johnson's proposed film version of V will ever see the light of day though, and even if it did, I very much doubt he would be the one directing it as he has no experience of big budget features.

Rickidy, The Alien voice effect was part of the miniseries.. I was a plot point a couple of times - When Mike escapes from the mothership, the trooper keeps trying to get him to talk, and in the Final Battle (they resistance comes up with a device to mimic it, so they can infiltrate.)

They just dropped it in the series tho -(apparently the cost of the effect was not worth it)

The entire original miniseries was an allegory of WWII, and the Nazi's (heck even the Vistor symbol was just a stylized swazstika) I think the original V was the best of the series.

Man this a blast from the past. The big stuff back then was when is the chick going to have the alien baby. I've been watching this all day over football. wow

The Origional was great, and I look forward to seeing the new. Does anyone remember that Robert England was in the origional? Yep, the origional Freddy Kruger was a lizard. Awsome roll for an awsome actor.

You know if your going to show this then show the second part after the final battle when the child changes in a cave and so on.

Yeah, if you listened to KJ's commentary on the original miniseries dvd this isn't really news.

Which I clearly did.

Because I am a nerd.

@ C'Rose - You're refering to the short-lived weekly series - I believe the episodes are available on the WB.com. The dvd is also CHEAP! :)

I know the SyFy haters claim the network totally dictates the content on this site (a la the Visitors did the media) ... but if that were the case, y'think they'd make the powers that be at SciFi Wire mention that SyFy was/is showing the original mini series in a marathon?

@ Marty B.

Heck, you'd think ABC would be advertising it - the original stands up a lot better than most 80s stuff.

Stopthemadness said "Good story telling doesn't require a lot of special efforts. The concept for V when it aired was original and bold. It also attracted a lot of non-scifi fans which is rare in alien themed films."

Actually Dr. Who relied on good stories, as opposed to good effects for decades. Good science fiction is good story telling. Something that will never go out of style....

TearEmUp, the Tom Baker years were the best. Baker had some of my favorite episodes.

I have no problem with tv shows or movies with low-budget or no budget special effects if the acting and writing are good.

"Instead, the early version of V featured a fascist takeover over of the U.S. with no aliens in sight. "

That's the Obama administration. No aliens. Just a fascist takeover of the U.S. Looks like this Johnson guy was just a few decades early.

Someone had to say it, and that someone was me.

Yawn, no Cylon_Conspiracy, you're not a uniquely superintelligent snowflake. I'm guessing you're too young and ill-informed to realize this but the "f"-label has been applied as an aspersion to every U.S. Presidency since Carter by both "loons" and noted political commentators at the extremes of every wing of the political spectrum.

Actually Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here" the most well-regarded portrayal of a fascist sneak takeover of the U.S. produced by the American imagination, was written at a time when people in the U.S. who actually called themselves fascists could rally in places like Madison Square Garden and claim we should look to Hitler and Mussolini for solutions to the problems facing 1930s America. It was a scary time, but at least people then knew what they were talking about.

Nowadays the Obama administration wants a public option in health care, much like the public option in education, etc. that many Americans participate in ... and critics call it fascist.

In the last administration, the Patriot Act's expansion of federal police and surveillance powers was called fascist by its critics.

Prior to that, NAFTA and other global trade initiatives and the Waco siege led critics to call the Clinton administration fascist.

Prior to that Bush I's vision of a "New World Order" of international security had people muttering "fascist."

Reagan's political theater was derided in some circles as "fascist." More to the point, across the Atlantic, V for Vendetta was composed largely as a protest against what Moore saw as Thatcherite "fascism."

Fascism used to be a word to clearly articulate a particular system of political principles. Since WWII however, outside of historical discussions it has little valued but a placeholder in political discussions for "things the government does" that the name-caller "doesn't like" or "doesn't understand."

Really, science fiction audiences are supposed to be smarter than this, cylon_conspiracy. I suppose you're right, it is an unspoken rule in internet discourse that in every discussion some idiot has to pipe up and say something likening Obama's domestic policy to fascism. You owned it, man.

Here's hoping the editors keep to their pledge and remove these political tangents. However, in case their asleep at the wheel, your silliness needed to be called out. People should do that more often.

For anyone curious, wikipedia's entry on "It Can't Happen Here" mentions its inspiration for the proto-V script:

"Inspired by the book, director–producer Kenneth Johnson wrote an adaptation titled Storm Warnings, in 1982. The script was presented to NBC, for production as a television mini-series, but the NBC executives rejected the initial version, claiming it was too "cerebral" for the average American viewer. To make the script more marketable, the American fascists were re-cast as man-eating extraterrestrials, taking the story into the realm of science fiction. The new, re-cast story was the mini-series V, which premiered on May 3, 1983."

It's sad that something like the totalitarianism the Tea Baggers claim to despise but actually embody is too cerebral for American audiences even today, sad but true.

Today on V there is an actor who was on the ship that my friend insists was Roddy or Rodney McDowell. I am not sure of the spelling but I know that isn't him. Does anyone know who that guy is?

All you people arguing politics are idiots! The USA was designed as a government of the people, by the people, for the people. What it has morphed into is a government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations. Our leaders are chosen by a corporate media; a media that tells us what to think, what to buy, and who to believe. If you disagree with that statement then you need to face reality. Our "freedoms" are controlled by corporations that see the people of this country as nothing more than assets. Regan, Bush, Clinton, "W" and Obama are all owned by those corporations. There is no "right" and "left" there is only the corporations and their assets. This country is owned. It was bought and sold a long time ago. Everybody knows it. Everybody understands it. Comedians joke about it. We make movies like V and the Matrix about it. But when anyone complains about it that person is automatically called a kook, a nutjob, a conspiracy theorist or, as the case is today, a terrorist. Whether you like it or not, that is the truth. if you agree, then take the red pill and do your own research as to what is really going on. If you don't agree, then take the blue pill and go on living your life as the happy slave you are.

Marty, you made my day. Thanks for your insight.

The sign of a good story is often pulled from current events. Star Trek TOS was often based on the headlines of the day. The Forever War was an allegory for Viet Nam. It is often what makes a good story. Reaching into the readers heart to illicit an empathetic response.

All that being said, I find it pathetic that one person voices their opinion, in the above case from the right, and another feels the need to completely disavow their point of view. That is how we got to this point, by not listening. We do not always need to agree, we do need to listen and respect an opposing point of view. Often we can learn from a good debate, they are educational tools.

Completely disavowing the opposition is simple cowardice. It is fear that perhaps, just perhaps, they are right in some way. Fear that our own point of view is not as strong as we had thought. Fear of being wrong. Fear is the mirror of ones soul. Anyone who feels the need to belittle another, simply because they have an opposing point of view is a coward. Cowardice is easy on the internet, no one can confront you in person. Its the safety of not being known. That does not change the cowardice being shown. It just make it harder to identify the coward.

I'm always up for a good debate.

Actually, Marty B., you are the one who went on a political tangent, and looked like a fool doing it I might add. I just made a simple comment.

Thanks TearEmUp, I don't know why it tends to get so personal. People take their politics seriously. All you have to do is say "I strongly disagree with your assertion, and here's why." You don't have to infer a whole bunch of nonsense on a person's age or their education or background.

I thought my point was on topic--the whole idea of "it couldn't happen here" is the exact attitude that was brought up in response to my post.

@cylon_conspiracy
I think the problem with your comment is that it appears to be insulting something without providing any reason as to why. By not doing so, from an observer's POV the comment sounds 1) rather ignorant or 2) "Hater"-ish, written to purposely rile people up just because you can get away with it—an unfortunately all-too-common consequence of anonymous cyber communication.
And a person cannot expect to make a controversial statement and not have someone disagree, which is why your comment got the reaction that it did. Nonetheless, I believe Marty B. should have requested for you to explain your reasoning before going off on a tangent, and most certainly should not have attacked you personally.

I agree with TearEmUp: Intelligent, courteous debate is worthwhile debate. Personal insults and mudslinging not required.
Two people can argue their points and if they don't want to yield to a superior argument or to compromise, then they don't have to, as bad as that sounds.

So okay, cylon_conspiracy: the Obama Admin. is fascist. Why do you think so?

@OAB
I definitely agree with your assertion that corporations have way too much power.
Think of the recession we are in now: it was the housing bubble that was the straw that broke the camel’s back in 2007, which began the downward spiral into “the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression”. Perhaps if the government had stepped in and created some decent regulations instead of letting real estate and banking corporations do as they please, it could have lessened the blow of the recession, if not completely prevented it. But of course, such a maneuver would be considered “Socialist”, and goodness knows Socialism can only lead to the Apocalypse...
And look at the US presidential election process. This country claims to support a multi-party system, but due to the disproportionate representation of the parties to favor two in particular while ignoring the others, the US is effectively a Two-party system—Democrats and Republicans. And why? Because the Dems. and the Reps. are the ultimate political corporations! They can afford to be the top dogs, buying as much publicity as they can to sell their party to the masses, garnering the people’s support through donations and votes in order to repeat the process and remain on top. Meanwhile, the other parties are left in the forgotten corners of the internet, since they don’t have the monetary support to compete. Seriously—can anyone name any of the candidates of the other parties that ran for presidency last year besides Ralph Nader?

While there are countless examples that could be made that support this notion, I digress: what would you suggest as a solution, OAB?

@Cloud
Sorry, I do not know of whom you are referring to. :(

@Blargh---you're reading way too much into my post. I thought it was funny. It was a simple, off the cuff remark and I don't think it was particularly offensive. It was not designed to hurt anyone's feelings or to stir anything up.

What YOU think an observer's POV would be, is YOUR POV. You do not speak for everyone who saw my comment. Only for yourself. Please don't assume that your interpretation is automatically the only one in town.

You say you agree with TearEmUp: "Personal insults and mudslinging not required"....

Yet, your first post to me is assuming all sorts of things about me and what my motives must be! "Well he said that, clearly he is rather ignorant, hater-ish, riling people up only because he can get away with it, an all too common online cliché... come on.

Guess what: I thought it was funny. That's all I did it for. You guys are way, way too sensitive about criticism towards Obama. I lived with GWB jokes for 8 years. Now it's my turn. No one's going to get hurt.

"So ok, cylon.. now that I've called you an idiot, WHY do you feel this way about Obama?"

I'll just have to wait to answer that question to someone who legitimately asks it without insulting me from their delusional fictional ivory tower first.

@cylon_conspiracy
--And likewise, you are reading too much into my post. I repeat: the internet does not do well in transferring one's intentions, when words can take so many different meanings to a reader not acquainted with one's personality.
However, it was very much a joke that poorly translated (evidence by the people who took offense/came to your defense/added their own opinion), and since you so long in saying that it was a joke even after it had become a lively discussion (so no, it was not obvious), I thought you were serious and was curious to understand your motives behind such a statement.
To me (you're right, I shouldn't generalize) I thought it was rude comment, but I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt while attempting to answer your question of why people took these things so seriously, a fact which in retrospect, I should have made clearer, for I see how you are offended by my words. And while I got the answer I sought, it came at an unfortunate price--the same price, in fact, that started this discussion in the first place: a misunderstanding of one's intentions.

So, I'll say this now: I meant no offense, and I apologize if you felt I insulted you. I hope you'll believe me, for my motivations in writing this apology is serious and sincere.

I accept your aplogy.

You know, yes I believe Obama is a fascist. You may have not thought it was funny. Who knows how many people read it and laughed and didn't post. You don't have that information.

Over the last 8 years I took it as potshots at GWB in online forums as just the way it is. I personally didn't think they were funny but I know many did. And here is the lone right winger who at least posts occasionally on syfy, and all of the sudden it's "Oh my god! Was that a joke at the expense of our illustrious leader? How dare he! The ignorance! The haterishness! The rabble-rousing! Quite offensive, sir!"

Tell me, when people made remarks about GWB in the last 8 years online, out of context (in your mind) to what may be the story at hand, did you take them to task for it in the same way you did me?

@cylon_conspiracy
Very true. Some people who understood your intentions may not have posted.

I have to say, I am irritated that you still insinuate that I blindly think you are ignorant and a hater even after I explained the truth behind the situation surrounding those words. I’m assuming this is the case because if that wasn't true, then you would be using your interpretation of my words to generalize SyFy’s Obama supporters, and… I’m sure you can figure out where that is heading. It sounds like the apology I made was worthless and definitely not accepted, since the aforementioned is was brought up.

It appears that we are incapable of coming to an understanding, so this will be my last response to you in my defense.

But before I start my answer to your GWB inquiry, let me say this: Just because I took a stance against you, doesn’t automatically make me an Obama-worshipping Democrat. Had you said that McCain, Clinton or Bush were fascists, I would not have reacted any differently to how I did when it was Obama at the end of that accusation. The reason why is because I don’t tie myself down to one party. I find a candidate that best matches my beliefs of the time and vote for that candidate.
So in case you missed that: no, I am not a Democrat—I’m unaffiliated. I didn’t even vote for Obama—I voted for Nader (Independent) because I was not impressed with either of the major party candidates. But just because my preferred candidate didn’t become president doesn’t mean I should automatically regard the one who did as “The Destroyer of America” (this is me exaggerating, don’t take it as an attack on you). I have a basic respect for all presidential candidates and presidents regardless of their political affiliation and prefer to make my judgements based on their character and their actions.

More on that later. For now, GWB:
Being ineligible to vote at the time of Bush's administration, I did not follow his presidency very closely, nor cared for politics at the time. Most of the sites I inhabited during GWB's admin. were not politics-oriented and did not bring up politics; and I only started posting here about a month ago. I did visit new sites and would browse articles concerning his presidency, but I never bothered with the comments section if the site had one
So no, I have not "taken them to task" for writing rude remarks about GWB, since I didn’t care less either way at the time of his presidency. This recent election was the first one that I actively took part in.

GWB insults in real life are a different story, as often is. In real life, I did encounter Bush-haters, and I don't remember saying anything confrontational to people who insulted GWB because again, I didn't care about politics much less the people involved in it. Thus, I acted neutrally towards any compliments/disses towards a certain politician with the knowledge that such statements are most likely riddled with biases. But I do remember not making any insults about Bush of my own for that same reason, and because even then I believed that any person who is willing to handle the pressures of running a country automatically deserves some respect. I know I certainly wouldn't be able to do it, so I have no right to insult anyone who does.

Despite my general indifference, I was nonetheless offended when people portrayed Bush as an ape because to me, that is extremely insulting. Again, people are so quick to scrutinize a president when they themselves would most likely not be able last a day in his shoes, yet they have the nerve to portray him as sub-human? That is messed up.
Similarly, I was offended at how people were so anal about not drawing Obama and (Hillary) Clinton in an offensive way during the election, but did not give McCain the same consideration. I mean, really: if you're going to be respectful, be so to all the candidates, not just to the candidates that apply to certain groups that may get offended. Got to lead by example, and being selective won’t cut it.
Then there are the people like my brother who voted for Obama solely because he was a minority, explaining than that by being a member of a minority group, Obama would provide a fresh outlook on the country, which could only bring lead to change for the better. When I asked him about what he thought of Obama’s views on major topics that were the focus of the election, he couldn’t list a single one. The “wrongness” of that needs no explanation.
Those kinds of discrepancies and ridicule still bother me, no matter who it is. So now that I have taken interest in politics, when I encounter any political followers whom simply denounce/glorify [insert politician here] without given any reason as to why, I ask them why. In relation to the internet however, I had yet to do so, since "barak oSama suxx @$$" comments are just not worth it.
It seems that you, cylon_conspiracy, were just the unlucky contender, since I thought you were mature and would be able to provide a good discussion after seeing how well you handled Marty B's INTENTIONAL insults (Note the full capitalization there—the only time I have and will use it for a non-abbreviated word).

But to get back on track.
I did disagree with some of Bush decisions and griped about the consequences (being a child of a soldier who was supposed to retire in the few days before he was activated to serve in Iraq, and who still battles his PTSD years after his service--for one). Despite this, I understand that not even the president can please everyone and that GWB ran the country the best he could. What's done is done, and now a new president is trying to do what he thinks is best for this country; and since he is still early in his presidency, I'm going to reserve my judgements.
The cycle of rudeness will never end if no one breaks it—it doesn’t help that politicians engage in that behavior by running smear campaigns against their competitors. People have to grow up sometime, and to the candidate that steps up and does so first, kudos to him or her. I know I will notice, and I hope others will too, so that eventually everyone else will follow that candidate’s example.

That's about it. But before I go, I would like to once again emphasize that the “ignorant/hater” comment was an attempt to answer your musing of “why [politics] tends to get so personal”. While I admit that that was my first reaction, note that ultimately, I wanted to discover the truth behind your statement instead of going with those initial assumptions and dismissing you as an ignorant hater, as you have nonetheless taken it.

Really, I don’t know what else to say. With any luck, you’ll interpret my explanation without any complications. If not, then I did my best.

Peace out.

@ Blargh Other than Ralph Nader? How about Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party, or Bob Barr of the Libertarian party, or the ever presant Dr. Alan Keyes...but I can see where you are coming from, which only proves my point. Anybody who isn't paying attention would never know that someone other than the two major party candidates are running. You never hear from, or about, other candidates in the corporate media--or if you do it is only to ridicule their ideas. You'll never see a third party candidate in a corporate media debate, because a third party candidate is not in the corporations best interests. Hardly anybody knows that Ralph Nader was threatened with arrest if he did not leave the property where one of the presidential debates was being held...which tells me that somebody doesn't want people to hear what he has to say.

How do we fix this? Easy. Follow the Constitution. Limit the ownership of the media. Enforce FCC rules forcing licensees to work for the public good. Mandate equal time in the media for all candidates on the ballot, including in televised debates. Make corporate donations to political campaigns illegal. Ban corporate lobbyists. Take the government back from these multi-national corporations. Yes, it is that easy.

@OAB

Well said. I applaud you.

Now to convince others that such reform is not bad, just badly needed… I'm sure it can be done, and with any luck it will happen soon.

@ Blargh I have written plenty of letters, however I see can't see these changes ever being made. Why? For the same reason that you'll never see a third party candidate taken seriously by the corporate media: it is not in their best interests. Politicians will never make changes to a system that keeps them in office, and money in their pockets. Think about it...would you shoot yourself in the foot?

Ughh! No! No STUPID politics, this is about V and how it is an allegory. I am so glad that Brandon Tartikoff challenged Kenneth Johnson in a positive way, since those huge alien ships hovering over cities and the reptilian-disguised human aliens bent on conquest was/is/and will be LEGENDARY.

@Blargh--hey man, no hard feelings. You're much younger than I thought, I'm almost twice your age so I've been debating stuff online for a long, long time and have built up a tolerance I guess to certain harsh comments.

I'll drop the debate but yeah man, I'm sorry I made you feel bad or anything like that, and I did take your apology as heartfelt and sincere. Discussions just get heated some times... nothing personal at all my man.

Hope we can have more friendly discussions in the future. :)

If you guys are interested in third parties, watch what's happening in NY-23 right now. The republicans completely slapped their party across the face and threw a third party candidate in there. We'll see what happens.

V is an allegory, but these stories always reflect what COULD happen, someday. A "It couldn't happen here" mindset is what they are WARNING AGAINST. Now that doesn't mean you have to agree with me that Obama is a fascist, but please don't assume that it could never, ever happen. I'm sure Germany thought it could never, ever happen. Shows like these are designed to keep us conscious of the world around us.

@Blargh & @OAB, nice posts, good points. My 2 cents...I am livid at what the current party in power is doing or trying to do to the country, because the fiscal irresponsibility is untenable. BUT, before I get called out, I was royally ticked that the Republicans had every opportunity to cut spending when they were in power and didn't as well. Personally, I think the answer is term limits. I used to not think so, but can't think of a better way to get them out of power.

Back to V, I really hope this show takes itself seriously and doesn't get campy. It doesn't even need that much action, at least not in the first couple of seasons.

I remember when Sci-Fi starting re-running the series and I was so excited because I missed about half the episodes from when it first ran. I remembered it as so awesome and couldn't understand why it was cancelled. After watching the re-runs, I thought, "Oh, that's why."

Thank God it's the weekend!!!
Now to catch up:

@OAB

That's true.
Yet, I was thinking more along the lines of utilizing the media to spread the word around and gather a large group of like-minded people to then approach en masse. Make it a public ordeal that would hopefully be a lot harder to ignore. And if that doesn't work, continue to bring the problem to the attention of the people through blogs, petitions, anything--seek ways to appeal to people, then let it go viral. While corporations have a lot of pull, they still need consumers in order to survive. The more people who speak up, the more pressure put on the corporations, and the less likely the issue can be avoided... at least, that's what I figure.
It's idealistic, I know, but hey, I wouldn't mind attempting it...

@cylon_conspiracy

Thank you for your apology, and again, I am sorry if I offended you.

I agree that fascism is a potential outcome that people should not dismiss as impossible. But when someone makes an observation, it would be nice to learn of the insights that went into that observation, to educate people like me so that I can have a better understanding from where you are coming from and adjust my thinking accordingly, if the situation calls for it.

Seeing the passion in which you debate your points, I cannot wait for out next encounter! ;)

@jhawks1510

You bring up an interesting point.
I have a quick question concerning your solution: are you suggesting we improve the current term limit system we have, or that we just maintain the one we have now? If the former is true, what kind of changes do you suggest?

v scares me

All you people arguing about left wing and right wing politics...are stupid. The world is controlled by reptillian aliens...for God's sake, get over yourselves and your petty bullschtein. Watch "V," its not about Obama or Bush, its about how every 4 years americans vote for fascists no matter which side their on...because...AMERICANS ARE FASCISTS!

No really, read David Icke, the bad guys aren't right or left, they're REPTILLIAN.

Or as I said, watch V, the Old V, Earth Final Conflict, the Arrival, They Live, whichever you prefer...bad guys come in all shapes and sizes and in the guise of "Left Wingers" and "Right Wingers" so stop berating and attacking HUMANs over your personal problems. The sooner you join the Human Resistance, and stop whining about Obama, or Glen Beck, the better, remove yourself from the right-left spectacle and join the Human Race. You fricking reptiles.