

Wow, looks like ABC's V is definitely in trouble.
Last night's third episode saw ratings and audience drop significantly again, down 18 percent to 9.3 million (3.1 rating among adults 18-49), according to The Hollywood Reporter's Live Feed blog.
That after a precipitous 29 percent drop in week two from the blockbuster premiere.
We're going to go out on a limb and say that the lizard aliens won't be on Earth for very long. Remember, ABC is airing only four episodes now (the last one airs next week) and was planning on returning to the air next spring with the final episodes of season one.
We don't know, but we've always thought this was ABC's way of not committing to the production of the show before they had a good sense of which way the audience would go; as the production was slated to start up again next month or so, we're thinking they'll just go ahead and pull the plug once the four eps have aired.
It's kinda too bad. The show was starting to grow on us, and we love the actors and the franchise. And we were eager to see how a change behind the scenes was going to affect the direction of the show.
But this is just us spitballing. What do you think? Do you think V has a chance? Would you keep watching?
By Praetor ShinzonII at 2:36 PM ON 11/18/09
No, not so much.
There is just something about it-like 'been there done that wore the tee shirt and had the bumper stickers on my car', type of thing.
Almost 50% drop in 3 weeks-not looking good.
By Rick at 2:37 PM ON 11/18/09
It's too bad, because V is actually half-way decent. It's better than Flash Forward which we gave up on after the first 3 episodes.
By mredder4 at 2:38 PM ON 11/18/09
ABC insults its viewers by assuming that they're all too dumb to read about a multi-month hiatus for a new show. I love sci-fi shows and will give most if not all a chance, but I skipped V. Why? Maybe because I didn't want to watch 4 episodes and then be cut off for weeks and weeks and weeks! That's just common sense, folks.
If you look at the cable and premium networks, it is shows that run, uninterrupted, for an entire season that are the big hits, and are shows that maintain their audiences. Network television shows get preempted too much or have reruns on too many weeks in a row for viewers to stay interested.
The TV model has been changing for decades, and recently cable realized its power and has begun programming according to it. The major networks are not keeping up, which is why you see NBC being sold off by GE.
By spacechampion at 2:44 PM ON 11/18/09
They should have just planned it as a miniseries like the original and aired it over 3-4 days. Many SF concepts are too big to be made into feature-length movies, and not big enough to sustain interest over a 12-24 episode season, let alone multiple seasons. ABC, learn from Lost: demand your productions have a beginning, middle and end in mind, and commit to specific lengths. If that's only 2-4 episode miniseries, then so be it.
By Dan at 2:45 PM ON 11/18/09
I know no one in Nashville watched last night because our local ABC station showed a weekly talk show with Titan's coach Jeff Fisher. I was not pleased.
Always hard for a show to stick when you don't know when it's going to be on. Most people are too lazy to find it if it's not in the same place all of the time.
By Kermonk at 2:50 PM ON 11/18/09
There is too much teen vibe in it with the stupid kids. Tune them out and it might have chance. But don't slack on the pace - too many of shows these days are all drama and no plot.
By ShaunH at 2:50 PM ON 11/18/09
You know, it's d-bags like you all that ruin sci-fi shows by having these stupid deathwatches. 9 million viewers is not terrible. It's not great, but it's not terrible either. However, if sites like this start scaring people into thinking the show won't be back, they'll abandon it even more.
Maybe you should stick to just reporting the news instead of trying to sensationalize it.
By taukimada at 2:52 PM ON 11/18/09
the nashville thing has been all 3 weeks... and set for next week too..
somehow a talk show of the coach of a bad football team is MUCH more important than the networks premmium programming... and from i recall.. we weren't the only ones.. there's anothr area (don't rememmber where) that has to wait till midnite to see new eps of V also
By jdmimic at 2:52 PM ON 11/18/09
I agree with mredder4, this 4 shows then a huge hiatus was basically them saying we really don't want this show. If they want to give shows a real chance, they need to have a show run at least 2 months without interruption, which never happens on the major networks. If you don't give people a chance to get invested in the show before you preempt it, it makes it much harder for a show to develop a following and last.
It seems the networks have the commitment phobia of a two-bit hooker. A quick bang and off you go, fella.
But hey, they gave it 4 shows, that is more than a lot of shows get. Anyone remember Quarterlife?
By actually_V_stands_for_vistory at 2:57 PM ON 11/18/09
how NOT surprising is this really?
bad writing, cardboard characters and a total lack of the depth that was at the core of the original and how can anyone be surprised the audience is completely abandoning this boring show?
being half-way decent simply does NOT cut it these days, and i find this encouraging actually! it's been painful watching this show and knowing how utterly mangled it's been! ugh...
now, you add the 4 month gap before V returns and you get a quite cancellation...
KJ, time to get your V Movie wrapped up and in the theatres!!!
By Mandy at 2:59 PM ON 11/18/09
'ABC insults its viewers by assuming that they're all too dumb to read about a multi-month hiatus for a new show. I love sci-fi shows and will give most if not all a chance, but I skipped V. Why? Maybe because I didn't want to watch 4 episodes and then be cut off for weeks and weeks and weeks! That's just common sense, folks.'
That's exactly why I wasn't watching.
By Valar1 at 3:02 PM ON 11/18/09
The show lacks focus. The show focuses on two main characters- the FBI mom and the priest, but they have yet to do something noteworthy for us to sit up and take notice. I see them trying to cope with the Vs, stay undercover but other than that and the daily piss and moan of the priest that he doesn't believe in God anymore, I just don't see a compelling reason to watch.
The original show had this constant feeling of danger to the heroes. As a viewer I was spellbound every hour of the original because I constantly felt Donovan was going to be arrested or killed, everywhere he went you felt he was going to be recognized and turned in. They shoul'dve stuck to that paranoid feeling rather than water it down to this where the priest walks in and gives the FBI info about the resistance meeting and then is allowed to go back to his church or where the FBI mom is confronted with her 911 recording and yet allowed to get back to work. By making it a series they've had to stretch out the paranoia, slow it down, and thus have lost the tension and excitement of the original.
By Allison&Jack at 3:03 PM ON 11/18/09
Meh. IMO ABC will bring it back in March, make a huge deal out of it like they did these 4 episodes, re-air these 4 episodes, and the rest of the season uninterrupted, and the ratings will be back up over 10 million.
No one is watching because everyone is waiting till they know they aren't going to have to wait months before getting new episodes. ABC announcing the long haitus before the show even aired was probably the dumbest thing they've done all season. But hey, at least they didn't put Jay Leno on at the 10 pm hour, 5 nights a week (snicker).
By Thomas B at 3:05 PM ON 11/18/09
well here in nashville the ypreempt the show and have shown it at 12:05am every week so far. even KNOWING about the show made it difficult to find let alone trying to pick up any casual observers
By jdmimic at 3:07 PM ON 11/18/09
Just as an aside and not directly relevant, I grant, but a quick internet search revealed that ABC doesn't do TOO badly, CBS seems to hold the record (beating out even FOX) for canceling shows after one episode or less.
So it could have been worse.
By Sammy at 3:12 PM ON 11/18/09
Not surprised in the least, at it's best the show was dull. Maybe this could have had some chance back in 1980 (oh wait, it didn't work then). Today's TV shows have gotten much better in quality compared to 20 years ago. This show was nothing original, but worse had characters that where just generic and bland.
By Brawl at 3:14 PM ON 11/18/09
Honestly, it's the #2 show of the night, behind the #1 network TV show, NCIS. It's still beating up on Biggest Loser and whatever Fox is showing.
My bet is that it'll get the remaining 9 episodes of the season, but it'll be interesting to see if it gets better- in both ratings and creativity.
By Melora at 3:30 PM ON 11/18/09
Good lord, WHO WRITES THIS CRAP? Personally I feel the series could be better (and with production hiatus, perhaps it will be), but 9.3 million is by no means a bad figure. And that doesn't even take into account DVR viewing yet. If junk like Heroes can get a fourth series with total viewing figures of 6.4 (towards the end of season 3, and dropped even further this season), then V doesn't have anything to worry about at the moment. I'm more inclined to think that FlashForward (which I've given up on now) will bite the dust before V will.
By ed davis at 3:31 PM ON 11/18/09
i dont care how bad a show is if i can see Morena Baccarin and Laura Vandervoort!!!!
[actually i think V is decent]
By Jason Swartz at 3:34 PM ON 11/18/09
I assume all ratings are made up anyway because i know not a single soul that has a Nielson's Rating box.
By Kyall at 3:38 PM ON 11/18/09
Are you kidding me? FlashForward is currently at a 2.6 18-49 share and has been for weeks and it got an additional 12 episodes added to make a total of 25. If V can stay at a 3.1, improve or only drop a few tenths of a point, V will be back next year.
By bunny at 3:42 PM ON 11/18/09
I'm such a broken record. Sci Fi on major network = disaster and early cancellation. LOST was an exception to the rule.
By eowyn at 3:47 PM ON 11/18/09
@Jason Swartz - I know what you mean! We were talking about that at work and none of us knew anyone with one either. Who exactly do they give them to?
By Blix at 3:50 PM ON 11/18/09
ABC is getting non-committed viewership for this show because the network won't commit to it. The network (in its infinite wisdom) is only showing 4 episodes before putting it on hiatus for who knows how long. Anyone that is interested in the show will watch in on hulu or ABC when they can watch back to back episodes. Who's going to set aside time during the week for a show that is only on for 4 episodes? Having said this, it's still pulling over 9 million viewers. Hardly a death watch SYFY. ABC has done its best to bury this show, but it just won't die.
By TVisDead at 4:07 PM ON 11/18/09
The greatest insult viewers can receive is not having a network commit to a show. How can they expect people to be loyal and want to watch a show when there is no commitment to keeping the show on air. How many times they started a new series only to cancel it after the pilot or a few episodes.
V is a good show. It kept the story interesting and I'm looking forward to watching the whole thing, as long as they don't cancel it obviously.
I agree with some of the comments that this should have been a mini-series. After all how long can they expect to keep going with this plot?
That's one of the reasons I'm watching more and more British TV. Better quality and way less crap than American shows. Not to mention that British TV doesn't assume their viewers are dumb and can't understand anything a tiny bit deep. Got Brits!
By KatsuKaze at 4:12 PM ON 11/18/09
I think this goes to show that the average person is just tired of all these remakes. While movies makers have yet to really see this effect yet, television rating should show this clear and fast... Imagine if they take these actors and characters and create an original storyline. Who knows they might actually make something like Lost?
By Muldfeld at 4:14 PM ON 11/18/09
I fully agree with ShaunH, this "deathwatch" attitude hurts shows' chances. It's as scummy as CNN anxious to report Health Care reform's demise for the sake of ratings.
For my part, I don't care for this show at all. I watched the last 3 fifths of it and it was uninteresting. The newsreporter isn't believable. Then again, this just shows how shallow Scott Peters is; The 4400 owed everything substantial to Ira Steven Behr, Craig Sweeny and those under them. Even the priest character is basically Tom Baldwin.
If anyone wants to know what would have happened to Jordan Collier in a 5th season, just watch "Crash" season 2, in which Eric Roberts plays a very similar character.
By Sammy at 4:16 PM ON 11/18/09
I agree 100% with bunny, Lost was an exception to the rule. Then again Lost contains a lot of different elements to draw in a larger audience + low FX budget. Other than Lost, Scifi on a major network is guaranteed failure. It has and never will work. Especially not with a show that is mediocre.
FYI, X-files was an exception simply because it debuted at a time when FOX became a national broadcast network, and had no shows to air.
By sci-fi fan at 4:16 PM ON 11/18/09
Why not an SGU/Sanctuary deathwatch?
By Muldfeld at 4:17 PM ON 11/18/09
I should emphasize that I'd rather watch this than anything else on ABC, especially Grey's Anatomy and Jimmy Kimmel.
I also agree with those upset with networks cutting shows' seasons and airing separate sections months apart.
This includes the fate of "Caprica", which is going to do that half season crap they pulled with BSG. I think it's a huge mistake.
By dvwasson at 4:21 PM ON 11/18/09
I was hoping ABC had learned from their mistakes 20 years ago. They tried to turn the orignial mini-series into a weekly series, too. I didn't watch any of the new series. I remember the old one too well. The new girl lead is even more chilling than Jane Badler.
By muahahah at 4:28 PM ON 11/18/09
The shows just bad. Morena is the only decent thing about the show. Party of Five dude and the half-wit from lost are just painful to watch. The whole religious angle is just annoying as well. ABC should stick to its lame sitcoms and not try to delve into scifi. Thanks
By scifire at 4:41 PM ON 11/18/09
Bring back Defying Gravity!
By MDS9 at 4:50 PM ON 11/18/09
Thank you for a intelligent coversation, not the spam or negitive comments.
I have not been in a hurry to view V on the networks because of the LONG break coming to the series. I watched it on hulu. Hulu only carries 5 epps at a time. Makes it hard for new viewers to catch up. My son waited for the DVD of Flash forward before he became a regular viewer.
I HATE your captcha. Sometimes it's not worth the fight to get my comments through.
By gorehound696 at 4:51 PM ON 11/18/09
Why is this surpising to me ? Welll I for one am so sick of remakes/rebooots that I do not go near any more of them so I do not support this show.
For me anyways I am glad to see any remake/reboot get the axe.I want my scifi to be new not old stuff.
By Celesto at 5:15 PM ON 11/18/09
no chance! first, it´s a remake (normally not bad, but...), second, everything you need to know for the first few eps was revealed in the pilot, third, everything is completely the same like the series before! really everything! and everyone knows how it should end and if it does not, it may be a suprise, but not a big one.
By jgsugden at 5:16 PM ON 11/18/09
Anyone else notice how non-NBC/Scifi shows get all of the doom and gloom articles and shows like Heroes - which has been degrading from mediocity since season 1 - never quite get the same hammering?
That being said, the networks have themselves to blame for people not watching their series. Unless a show is an obvious hit at first glance people give up on it. Every show with any flaws is canceled by the networks, so why invest in it emotionally?
By Celesto at 5:19 PM ON 11/18/09
1 ) bad remake (everything was clear after pilot)
2 ) even an alternative ending would not be that surprising
3) Defying Gravity was much more better!
4) why SGU/Sanctuary no deatchwatch, well..not remakes..my opinion..i like SGU..even if the science comes too short at the moment
By Oldcode at 5:31 PM ON 11/18/09
Yes, it's got its problem, but I have enjoyed the show so far and want to see more.
Unfortunately, I think the show is doomed. Mainstream America just can't seem to handle sci fi unless cities are being destroyed.
By ActionJunkie at 5:35 PM ON 11/18/09
V is better than Flash Forward... WHAT?!! CRAZY talk. Flash Forward has been getting better every week and is beyond awesome right now! I do hope V gets picked up as it has gotten better every episode too!
By photoguyryan at 5:41 PM ON 11/18/09
Well, to be honest, I havent seen it yet. It should be out on cable, probably scif, within a couple of months. About the only sentiment that I can muster....
DIE!!! DIE!!! DIE!!!! Death to re-boot & remakes!!!
By Blackwolf at 6:19 PM ON 11/18/09
I think abc is nuts only airing four episodes now and the rest in march that what killed jericho which was a damn good show dont you people who are charge ever use youi think the show is intelligent it would be a shame if it gets cancelled iagree with dvwasson the female lead is very chilling
By cylon_conspiracy at 6:31 PM ON 11/18/09
You guys want V to fail by saying "deathwatch". I'm of the understanding that the ratings were decent.
With friends like those in the sci-fi fan community, what new sci-fi show needs enemies?
Sometimes I think sci-fi fans are only happy when shows DON'T live up to their impossible expectations.
By ABC BASHING at 7:18 PM ON 11/18/09
CANT YOU SEE THAT THIS SITE OVER AND OVER AGIN HAS BASHED ABC???? THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ADGENDA WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP
By robeuax at 7:31 PM ON 11/18/09
Sci fi is nbc, that being said I hope abc will at least wrap the storyline. Probably not.
By ZombyWoof at 8:15 PM ON 11/18/09
No surprise here
V is just not compelling.
Not in the least.
The story feels as if it’s going to drag forever, there’s no sense of foreboding, the characters are blah, the cinematography is standard well-lit TV and the sets are flat.
By kev74 at 8:18 PM ON 11/18/09
People really need to get over bashing remakes. Just because you don't like remakes doesn't mean others might enjoy it. The world does not revolve around you!
Now as for V, I'm enjoying it. Alas I've seen this pattern happen too many times and I'm betting it doesn't make it past season 2... if there is one.
By archangel at 9:47 PM ON 11/18/09
DEATHWATCH-- Readers rise up and abandon SCI-FI Wire for BIASED "Journalism"....(sorry, tried not to laugh when I said that last word.)
By ryan23 at 10:35 PM ON 11/18/09
This show just had WAY too much exposition in the first episode. The whole thing could have been charachter development and backstory and ended when the ships arrived. The 4th episode should have ended with the first look at the lizard face when the woman from Lost (who's charachter is about as likable as herpes) hit her FBI partner. They could have drug that out and raised the hell out of the suspense. Instead, now we are all completely aware what's happening with these aliens, we have all the charachters and motivation in place, the the captcha on this site needs to jump off a bridge into oncoming traffic in a stunning, yet still inneffcient attempt at mea culpa. Jesus, guys. Oh, and the kid that's trying to get in Supergirl's pants (and who wouldn't) also looks mildly retarded in every shot he's in. His chubby buddy however; goes full retard and we all know, you can never really come back.
In short the pacing is totally whack. It won't be cancelled for a season or two because the ratings are good enough, but they are screwed as far as being an engaging show, like Lost. Or they could go for 1,243,525,256 seasons like "According to Jim", which no one in the western hemisphere actually ever saw. Until we run ABC, we are just going to have to complain that it's not right and that we miss it when it is gone.
By Typher at 10:38 PM ON 11/18/09
Eh, ABC will cancel this show if ratings get to bad we have no say we can do nothing ABC have a name for canceling good shows
By ryan23 at 10:39 PM ON 11/18/09
So, there's no second h in the word character. Turns out, I went full retard. Sorry if you gagged a little trying to figure that out.
By wrigs at 11:05 PM ON 11/18/09
cause we all know... scifi has such jems as "Ice Twister" Copperhead" "Disaster Zone: Volcano in New York" "Flu Bird Horror"
"Ice Spiders" "Kaw" "Malibu Shark Attack" "NYC: Tornado Terror" "polar storm" "sand serpents" "rock monster" that will keep us glued to this network.
By Brandenburgh_Man at 11:06 PM ON 11/18/09
The show is boring. I agree with the commenter who said it has too much of a "been there, done that" feeling.
Also - am I the only one who thinks Stargate Universe is boring? I've watched it for 8 straight weeks and keep asking myself the same question: Why am I watching this tedious show?
By TV Obsessed at 11:06 PM ON 11/18/09
Wake up people, Scifi Wire is run by the same losers that kowtow to Obama every chance they get.
Interestingly, they are trying to manipulate public opinion with non-stories like this much like the Visitors are...
By legendzero1 at 11:31 PM ON 11/18/09
This NBC/UNI/SYFY obsession with V is pathetic. Let me break it to you, Heroes SUCKS, SGU SUCKS, NBC's programs SUCK! Belittling other networks won't make the crap you air better.
By Scott at 12:34 AM ON 11/19/09
cylon_conspiracy and Shaun H-I think you're both right.
I think there are far too many fans out there who actually feel more comfortable with failure than success-success makes them feel less special.
And this Deathwatch nonsense-really,Wire,what are you accomplishing with this? You tick off the V fans and look like you are a slanted and unreliable newssource (which I would assume you wouldn't want. Frankly,right now,you are,though.) and the people who don't like V don't care anyway.
It seems like all Wire wants these days is to start fights. I need to find me a better source of news...
By irishjdf at 12:35 AM ON 11/19/09
In my opinion, many potential fans want to watch V and were intrigued by all the promotions and hype, remembering how great the 80's V was. But we are also aware of how networks use a deceptive and inaccurate ratings system to determine what shows to keep and which to throw away. If after all the hype the show does not continue next year, it will insulting and unfair. Even 9.3 million viewers is more than many shows that have been on for seasons EVER get. Battlestar Galactica was one of the greatest shows ever on television, yet it never got that recognition and ratings were terrible...because they are NOT accurate and no longer represent modern technology and viewing habits of our current society.
By Shon at 2:27 AM ON 11/19/09
Hmm...V was Number one in it's timeslot...and ABC was number 2 overall... Deathwatch?
I will at least agree that the network was hedging it's bets...
By Cris at 3:21 AM ON 11/19/09
9.3 and we're already putting this show on a deathwatch?
By Madra at 3:30 AM ON 11/19/09
I'm thinking we should start a SCI-FI WIRE DEATHWATCH because with "journalism" like this, I am finally done with reading this so-called news page. It's gotten less and less about actual news, and more and more about utter crap.
Looks like you've shot yourself in the foot here, Patrick.
By Clem at 5:13 AM ON 11/19/09
Seriously? We're on a bloody Deathwatch for a show that's been on for barely three weeks? SERIOUSLY?
What the hell is wrong with the world. We acknowledge that this ratings system doesn't remotely work in reflecting what people are actually watching, yet we hang on every update and god forbid something drop or it's immediately pegged for cancellation. This attitude is poisonous. No show has a chance anymore. It's either a hit or it's cancelled. Where's the goddamn happy medium?!?!
Same goes for movies. We've stopped caring whether it's good or bad. Instead we're watching the box office take and if it'll make it's budget back during the theatrical release. What the hell is wrong with us?!?!
V, while not being a masterwork by any means, is a perfectly watchable show and is definitely the preferable option when faced with the barage of "reality" tv on every other channel.
We, as a society, have lost the freaking plot.
By bdaul at 6:23 AM ON 11/19/09
American TV viewers are basically simpletons! If there are more than 3 main actor and more than a SINGLE plot line they are lost. It is a shame that we seem to have reached where the film Idiocracy suggested we would be. Those of us with a brain long for complexity...those without a brain watch the Brady Bunch and go to McDonalds! Pathetic culture (of those watching TV).
By diesel at 7:34 AM ON 11/19/09
V is the best new Sci Fi show this year. I expect it will go on for a few more seasons. So far everyone I know who has watched it, likes it. It has good casting / actors. The character development is good. It has good story and pacing. The actors have chemistry. It honors the original.
Anna is a great villian. I am waiting to see what they have instored when it starts up again in 2010.
I see it having a strong enough fan base to continue if they can keep up or even improve the content when it starts up again in 2010.
I recommend Sci Fi fans support this show so that there will be more quality Sci Fi shows in the future.
By nbrkrnchr at 7:56 AM ON 11/19/09
It really cracks me up how Syfy attacks a show that has had better ratings then two of the highest rated Syfy channel shows combined. They spin their news by touting how SGU is a success because it beat out Dollhouse which is now canceled. Then the current ratings of V is far better then the last four years of ER. They viewership is nearly double of Chuck and triple of Heroes, yet that should show you that NBC cannot matchup to other network shows. Their experiment of the Jay Leno show is tanking. Yet they have the nerve to attack V. I smell Jelly.
By 3456 at 8:08 AM ON 11/19/09
Don't worry, ABC will rebound with a reality TV show or a piece of crap show like Syfy's latest "Jim's Alien" or mutant rap spiders from Las Vegas battling the evil Frankenfish as documented by Destination Untruth.
By willhh3 at 9:29 AM ON 11/19/09
I think the show has potential and needs time to grow into its stride. We need time for character and story development that just doesn't happen in 4 episodes...for most shows I think it taks at least a season and sometime two to really hit their stride. Networks need to realize that a long hiatus and frequent timeslot changing (has happened here, yet) kill a show. We loose interest when the show isn't on our radar...and frankly 4 episodes isn't enough to really put it on the radar permanently. They should have gone with a mini-series if they wanted to test the waters. Whelp, I guess another sci-fi (ya...sci-fi, not sy-fy) show bites down the tubes.
By rjclark at 9:37 AM ON 11/19/09
I'm tivoing the series to watch it back to back. I have heard very good things from friends that have watched it, so I'm confident that ABC will cancel the show without giving it a chance to gain an audience. Which is what they are apparently planning considering the production schedule. Which kinda sucks when you see real crap that stays & stays & stays
By emilymargrit at 10:28 AM ON 11/19/09
I gotta say, episode 3 improved upon episode 2, and I actually jumped up at one point pointing at the screen in excitement. This show keeps me engaged. Even if it's not well done in other respects, I want to keep watching, unlike OTHER shows on OTHER networks we won't mention.
...Captcha attempt #7...
By Seanbtwo at 10:47 AM ON 11/19/09
Did anyone notice that the new V is quite a lot like the show 1st wave? From an alien resistance movement right down to an alien human sympathizer named Joshua, it's odd. Still, it's a fantastic show in it's own right, and they better damn well stick with it.
By Visitor101 at 11:10 AM ON 11/19/09
Who else thinks this article's a payback for the bad press SGU has been getting? After catching the preview for this week's episode I was surprised they came up with something original. I won't watch formulaic schlock week after week, it's too predictable and boring. I might watch the episode when the women run out of tampons?!! lol
I think the reboot is great compared to a lot of other crap on tv, come on!
Nielsen numbers can be inaccurate AND manipulated. There system is simpley flawed and has been for years. The problem is that they have a monopoly and until the nets come up with a better idea they'll keep using them.
By V- the lesser at 11:54 AM ON 11/19/09
Funny, most people I know who've watched this show have not been impressed- especially at how badly this show has been written! Funny too that it seems the audience is so quickly realizing this and turning the station!! People don't stop watching a show in these numbers cuz it's GOOD!
When compare to the original mini, this show just DOESN'T have the same intensity, the same compelling characters you want to care about, the same dread and paranoia and the same epic world-in-peril atmosphere! It's as if they are just making it up as they go along ...everything the cast have been saying about how AMAZING it all is is just simple spin, spin, spin! Because it's nothing but ordinary, ordinary, ordinary!
Sorry folks. Wake up and realize this show is this close to being canceled- especially when the network has really not been behind it at all!
There simply is nothing special, nothing different about this show- there is NO magic what-so-ever unlike the original!
I was hoping for so much more from a show that carries the V name, but it's ended up being nothing but a huge disappointment...
By sparrowlord01 at 11:55 AM ON 11/19/09
The truly sad thing is that this show could have been great. There were a few stupid things about it, like the giant video display on the bottom of the motherships. The way they handled first contact in the original mini series was much better. The plot was getting too conspiracy laden. When you took away the ships, it was just like the X-Files on steroids. The aliens in the original also seemed more separated from humanity. The uniforms and odd voices served as a reminder that these were not humans. In the series, they just don't seem alien enough. Maybe its a way for them to cut down on the special effects or wardrobe budget, but it just doesn't work. Oh yeh, and whoever designed those lame Peace Ambassador uniforms was either on drugs, or should have been.
If you are going to remake something as iconic as V. Then you only get one shot. If you mess it up. It's toast. V was probably the most popular Scifi events of the 1980s. I used to make some extra money making costumes for SciFi convention attendees. I must have made at least 200 V uniforms. That's how popular it was. The new show did what so many shows nowadays do. They tried to Re-Imagine it. And as with all classics that are destroyed by these moronic producers and writers, it is failing miserably.
Hollywood needs to do straight remakes or FIND SOMETHING BLOODY ORIGINAL!
By Bluesun at 11:59 AM ON 11/19/09
"Who else thinks this article's a payback for the bad press SGU has been getting?"
Now that is probably true --
SGU sucks; V, not so much.
By Tarc at 12:11 PM ON 11/19/09
I don't think traditional ratings reflect viewship *at all* anymore. Personally, many sci-fi viewers are tech savvy and avail themselves of DVRs, computer TV cards with recorders, free downloads, and video sites like Hulu. Who would waste their time watching TV like (unless it's an event show like Idol or SYTYCD - when you much vote in a certain window of time)? I've stored V for next week - when I have Thanksgiving week off. Or hey, they said there won't be more V unitl after Christmas, so I have a long time to find the right moment to enjoy it. People are extremely busy, and by telling people that they don't have to keep up, they won't. It has nothing to do with interest or viewership, but simply a more enjoyable and productive (and usually briefer) way of viewing television.
By DanDfromNJ at 12:20 PM ON 11/19/09
First, of course this site is going to bash NBC and not SyFy shows. It's a SyFy site! Duh. Secondly, I do find it increasingly aggravating that more and more supposed fans of science fiction that post here seem to hate pretty much every piece of science fiction that comes out. Finally, I like V. I miss it when it airs but purchase it on XBOX every week to show my support. (I have not seen episode three yet because XBOX just changed its format and it was not up yesterday. Hopefully I'll see it today.)
By Nid at 1:26 PM ON 11/19/09
Patrick Lee are you kidding me? I watched the last four minutes and it grew on me like mold! It was four minutes of Inara Anna looking at that 90210 news reporter blinking and smiling. Then we pan off to the lame duck target horshoe crab Z saucer.Then the final scene was the not very exciting lady cop being introduced by her friend to Morris chestnuts and some other guy so that you see four people looking at each other in con fusion. See how boring it is just reading a description of the last four minutes?
By Kronos2501 at 2:01 PM ON 11/19/09
People are saying that the remake sucks. Well, what do you expect when they don't have the originator of the series. They don't even have Kenny Johnson as a consultant!
Also, the new show is following the same pattern all the other shows are following with its minimalist style. I'm going to stick with watching the original miniseries on DVD and reading the books written by Mr. Johnson. Great books, by the way. This new V is garbage, 'nuff said.
By SciFiAgenda at 3:02 PM ON 11/19/09
OK. SciFiwire.com is a SyFY channel affiliate. Would it not behoove SyFy if SciFiWire disparaged opposition programming? This is mass media counter-marketing 101 folks. I mean you really have to take certain opinions with a grain of salt.
By Maltheus at 3:27 PM ON 11/19/09
This show needs more characters. You can't get by on a resistance of two (and the 5th column doesn't count). The original V had a broad cast of characters from all walks of life and that was good at drawing people in.
They also need to speed things up a bit. While it's not as boring as Fringe, Flashforward or (most inexplicably boring of all) SGU, it still needed to be moving things more quickly given the hiatus. Perhaps the writers weren't expecting the hiatus, and if so, then it's management's fault. I'm sure they'll get a big bonus for messing things up. It's the American way these days.
Also, for crying out loud, does no one moderate this board? Increase your freaking captcha timeout already!
By Scott at 5:57 PM ON 11/19/09
Wait a second-shon just said V won its time slot? IT WON IT'S FREAKING TIMESLOT! Why are we even having this discussion? Since when are the shows that win their timeslot put on Deathwatch?
As far as this site bashing non-NBC/Syfy shows-it's become obvious that this is so. This site used to bemore objective. it's a shame that that changed...
By legendzero1 at 6:20 PM ON 11/19/09
Seanbtwo said,"Did anyone notice that the new V is quite a lot like the show 1st wave? From an alien resistance movement right down to an alien human sympathizer named Joshua, it's odd. Still, it's a fantastic show in it's own right, and they better damn well stick with it."
Or one could say Joshua from First Wave was like Martin and the fifth column from the original V.
By OrchidStation at 6:32 PM ON 11/19/09
The show isn't perfect. The pacing is killing it, so I understand the need for the hiatus & creative changes. What upsets me is SYFY WIRE overtly slamming the show right from the moment the premiere hit big.
[note: I'm not a republican who hates NBC/GE for whatever reason Glenn Beck tells me. I like NBC's comedies, Universal Movies, & GE products.]
I'd be less offended if SYFY WIRE had not always portrayed itself as a source of news within the genre. It would be understandable if say - the SGU articles outnumbered V's or even if V got no coverage at all, but the outright bashing with little/no justification is pathetic and classless.
Whether V continues or not is irrelevant. The premiere scored such high ratings because people are hungry for a DECENT science fiction/fantasy series to fill the void [We just had a summer full of huge Scifi movies too]. There isn't enough on science fiction on TV, which is enraging given the existence of the freaking SYFY CHANNEL!
By Renee Walker at 11:04 PM ON 11/19/09
I watched the first ep. Then I waited for Hulu for the 2nd and couldnt be bothered for the third...not sure why I just dont care all the mains are beautiful to look at...I just would rather go out than watch the telly and my two teens would rather surf or tweet than watch...
By DanDFromNJ at 12:50 PM ON 11/20/09
Kronos Moving on, I'd like to say that it frustrates me that it's ok to post pro liberal comments up here but not pro conservative.
By Disappointed so far at 4:44 PM ON 11/20/09
Meh - I'm still hanging with it, giving it a chance to improve, but so far it's a pale and shallow imitation of the original. They covered about 4-5 hours worth of material - badly - in the first hour and haven't given me any reason to give a crap about any of the characters (Donovan, Julie, Marin, Willie, all much better and more likable characters than the new versions). And worst of all, the completely cliche use of the lazy "sci fi" writers worst crutch - "FBI Agent Invesigates Paranomal X." If I have to see that crap one more time, it'll almost be enough to make me wish "The X Files" had never happened . . .
By Flux Cheese at 11:32 PM ON 11/20/09
I have no problem with this cancellation. This show gives Science Fiction that old bad name. It really is a horrible show.
By Flux Cheese at 11:44 PM ON 11/20/09
Shot through the heart and you're to blame, V you give sci-fi a bad name
fixed
By cylon_conspiracy at 4:06 AM ON 11/21/09
@OrchidStation:
"There isn't enough on science fiction on TV, which is enraging given the existence of the freaking SYFY CHANNEL!"
Syfy doesn't stand for science fiction any more, but for "imagination" or whatever nebulous concept will get a larger demographic.
cylon_conspiracy:
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